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  • Thank goodness it was baseball instead of football.

    es, a friend texted me this morning and told me Russell Wilson had been traded and I thought, "Dang, the Seahawks are really doing a complete makeover" Sat there for 2 hours wondering what they got in exchange before I could get to the internet and find out it was baseball.
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  • HawkFan72 wrote:Thank you for not making this a bait and switch.


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  • I bet they offer him number 3. I checked and no one on the roster is using it currently








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  • Hawk Finn wrote:I bet they offer him number 3. I checked and no one on the roster is using it currently








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    Hawk Finn wrote:I bet they offer him number 3. I checked and no one on the roster is using it currently








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    I'll assume that's sarcasm.



    LOL.. we there isn't anyone..It would be monumental to say the least.

    BTW.. why wasn't he traded to the M's?
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    Hawk Finn wrote:I bet they offer him number 3. I checked and no one on the roster is using it currently








    :twisted:

    I'll assume that's sarcasm.



    LOL.. we there isn't anyone..It would be monumental to say the least.

    BTW.. why wasn't he traded to the M's?


    Think he always said to his dad he'd play for the Yankees one day.
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  • Bobblehead wrote:
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    Hawk Finn wrote:I bet they offer him number 3. I checked and no one on the roster is using it currently








    :twisted:

    I'll assume that's sarcasm.



    LOL.. we there isn't anyone..It would be monumental to say the least.

    BTW.. why wasn't he traded to the M's?

    Maybe he was asked what team. We all know he isn't going to play. It's just a honorary token transaction. Both the Yankees and Russ will benefit from it. Russ gets to show up at Spring Training camp and get a lot of press from the New York media and the Yankees will have the best QB in New York since YA Tittle. ;)
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  • MD5eahawks wrote:
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    MD5eahawks wrote:
    Hawk Finn wrote:I bet they offer him number 3. I checked and no one on the roster is using it currently








    :twisted:

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    LOL.. we there isn't anyone..It would be monumental to say the least.

    BTW.. why wasn't he traded to the M's?

    Maybe he was asked what team. We all know he isn't going to play. It's just a honorary token transaction. Both the Yankees and Russ will benefit from it. Russ gets to show up at Spring Training camp and get a lot of press from the New York media and the Yankees will have the best QB in New York since YA Tittle. ;)



    Isn't Wilson's contract about up?.. seems there are two teams in NY who need a QB.
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    Isn't Wilson's contract about up?.. seems there are two teams in NY who need a QB.


    He has 2 years left on his current deal and the odds of him going anywhere are slim to none.
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  • Maybe I just hate the Yankees but I feel like Russ needs to focus more on football and give up the rest of these distractions. Yes I know he was great last year but could he be better if he didn't have all of this other stuff going on?
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  • kidhawk wrote:
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    Isn't Wilson's contract about up?.. seems there are two teams in NY who need a QB.


    He has 2 years left on his current deal and the odds of him going anywhere are slim to none.



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  • getnasty wrote:Maybe I just hate the Yankees but I feel like Russ needs to focus more on football and give up the rest of these distractions. Yes I know he was great last year but could he be better if he didn't have all of this other stuff going on?

    Russ has no control over his baseball rights getting traded, but I’m assuming you knew that.
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  • getnasty wrote:Maybe I just hate the Yankees but I feel like Russ needs to focus more on football and give up the rest of these distractions. Yes I know he was great last year but could he be better if he didn't have all of this other stuff going on?


    I'd guess probably about 95%+ of the players in the league are doing less to prepare for next season during the time he's at spring training. As a Yankees fan I find this pretty cool. As a Seahawks fan I just hope he doesn't end up getting hurt somehow.
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    getnasty wrote:Maybe I just hate the Yankees but I feel like Russ needs to focus more on football and give up the rest of these distractions. Yes I know he was great last year but could he be better if he didn't have all of this other stuff going on?


    I'd guess probably about 95%+ of the players in the league are doing less to prepare for next season during the time he's at spring training. As a Yankees fan I find this pretty cool. As a Seahawks fan I just hope he doesn't end up getting hurt somehow.

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  • I would hate it but I would root for Russ if he ever played big league with the yanks
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  • chris98251 wrote:
    kidhawk wrote:
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    Isn't Wilson's contract about up?.. seems there are two teams in NY who need a QB.


    He has 2 years left on his current deal and the odds of him going anywhere are slim to none.



    Alex Smith, Jay Cutler, Drew Brees in San Diego, nobody is untouchable.


    I didn't say untouchable, I said slim to none. Out of that list you made, Smith and Brees both had young quarterbacks groomed to take their place, and Cutler retired. Unless you really think we have a qb on our roster ready to be a franchise quarterback, the odds of Wilson leaving are (as I said before) slim to none.
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  • kidhawk wrote:
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    Isn't Wilson's contract about up?.. seems there are two teams in NY who need a QB.


    He has 2 years left on his current deal and the odds of him going anywhere are slim to none.



    Alex Smith, Jay Cutler, Drew Brees in San Diego, nobody is untouchable.


    I didn't say untouchable, I said slim to none. Out of that list you made, Smith and Brees both had young quarterbacks groomed to take their place, and Cutler retired. Unless you really think we have a qb on our roster ready to be a franchise quarterback, the odds of Wilson leaving are (as I said before) slim to none.


    Speaking of Cutler with the Broncos and Bree's with the Chargers he was just getting started, you could add Carson Palmer twice once with the Bengals and once with the Raiders, there are so many more. John and Pete like what Russell brings to the table, but does his ability become less shiny with 24 million or so a season versus being able to get what the Eagles got in a Foles, or the Vikings with Keenum, or a draft pick even. Mediots are already throwing out he is underpaid for his performance and that the Yankees are leverage.
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  • chris98251 wrote:
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    He has 2 years left on his current deal and the odds of him going anywhere are slim to none.



    Alex Smith, Jay Cutler, Drew Brees in San Diego, nobody is untouchable.


    I didn't say untouchable, I said slim to none. Out of that list you made, Smith and Brees both had young quarterbacks groomed to take their place, and Cutler retired. Unless you really think we have a qb on our roster ready to be a franchise quarterback, the odds of Wilson leaving are (as I said before) slim to none.


    Speaking of Cutler with the Broncos and Bree's with the Chargers he was just getting started, you could add Carson Palmer twice once with the Bengals and once with the Raiders, there are so many more. John and Pete like what Russell brings to the table, but does his ability become less shiny with 24 million or so a season versus being able to get what the Eagles got in a Foles, or the Vikings with Keenum, or a draft pick even. Mediots are already throwing out he is underpaid for his performance and that the Yankees are leverage.


    Palmer wasn't going to play another snap with the Bengals, so again, nothing like our situation. And Cutler really isn't even on Wilson's level. He's a starter, but not a franchise type guy. As for Brees, I was talking about the Chargers as well. They wanted Rivers to be the guy, but the coaches didn't and they had an internal power struggle. I seriously doubt that is going on here.

    The question you bring up is valid, but your examples don't really work. Can a team win without a franchise quarterback? Sure they can, but they need to step it up everywhere else. The bigger question, is can a team win consistently and over the long haul without a franchise quarterback? I think the majority of coaches in the NFL would much rather take their chances with a franchise quarterback than go without one. Now, do you believe Russell Wilson is truly a franchise quarterback, or is he merely a good quarterback on a great team? If you think he's a franchise guy, he goes nowhere. If you believe he's just a good quarterback on a great team, he becomes expendable.
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  • You speak of Cutler, Palmer, Brees with todays knowledge, that's ok, speak of them at the time and it's different, Cutler was a hot commodity, Bree's was a hot commodity and Palmer was coming off a injury but was also a hot QB, only question was is he able to play at the same level as before.

    But yes everyone has to ask the question about Wilson, it will take a decent and not necessarily a great O line and a semblance of a Running game to really see how good he is. If he can turn a average cast of characters around him productive offense then yes he is a Franchise guy, if he needs elite then he is simply a good QB.

    I think we will see somewhere around game 5 next year if the Offense starts to swing upwards more.
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  • chris98251 wrote:You speak of Cutler, Palmer, Brees with todays knowledge, that's ok, speak of them at the time and it's different, Cutler was a hot commodity, Bree's was a hot commodity and Palmer was coming off a injury but was also a hot QB, only question was is he able to play at the same level as before.

    But yes everyone has to ask the question about Wilson, it will take a decent and not necessarily a great O line and a semblance of a Running game to really see how good he is. If he can turn a average cast of characters around him productive offense then yes he is a Franchise guy, if he needs elite then he is simply a good QB.

    I think we will see somewhere around game 5 next year if the Offense starts to swing upwards more.



    Actually, no, I was speaking of how I remember those quarterbacks and my opinions on each of them.

    As I said, Palmer had said he'd retire before playing another down for the Bengals and was demanding a trade, which is why it's nothing like the Wilson situation.

    Cutler was someone who some were hot on and others not so much. I was never overly high on him. I thought he was an above average guy, but I've never felt he was the answer long term to any team's search for a franchise guy. I can understand and fully admit that there were others who had varying opinions on him becoming that franchise guy, but I can only speak for myself here.

    Brees was by all accounts a very good quarterback who I felt the Chargers were foolish for letting go. It may be the closest to mimicking a scenario where Wilson is traded or let go, but I just don't see our GM and coach disagreeing on who should qb this team like they did in San Diego, and thus, I don't think the comparison really works.

    I do agree though, this will be an interesting season as I believe we will push for this team to be more balanced (ie more potent offensively while allowing for a dip on the defensive side of the ball). This kind of goes against Pete's apparent philosophy though, so I could be totally off base, but either way, as you said, we'll know pretty early on what exactly comes of the off season changes.
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  • So the question is why?

    Why does Russ want to be traded to the Yankees? Obviously this was facilitated by his agent for some reason.

    I've read online that this is for leverage going into a contract year next year? But that doesn't make sense, NO ONE including someone as smart as John Schneider believes Russell would ever toil in the minors making 75k a year over 25M as a QB in the NFL.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:So the question is why?

    Why does Russ want to be traded to the Yankees? Obviously this was facilitated by his agent for some reason.

    I've read online that this is for leverage going into a contract year next year? But that doesn't make sense, NO ONE including someone as smart as John Schneider believes Russell would ever toil in the minors making 75k a year over 25M as a QB in the NFL.


    Assuming Wilson asked for this, there is probably one major reason behind it and that's endorsement money. As big as his name is now, associate it with a team like the Yankees and watch his endorsements continue to climb. Getting to be a popular face in the NY market is HUGE for after his football career is over.
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  • kidhawk wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:So the question is why?

    Why does Russ want to be traded to the Yankees? Obviously this was facilitated by his agent for some reason.

    I've read online that this is for leverage going into a contract year next year? But that doesn't make sense, NO ONE including someone as smart as John Schneider believes Russell would ever toil in the minors making 75k a year over 25M as a QB in the NFL.


    Assuming Wilson asked for this, there is probably one major reason behind it and that's endorsement money. As big as his name is now, associate it with a team like the Yankees and watch his endorsements continue to climb. Getting to be a popular face in the NY market is HUGE for after his football career is over.


    I guess this makes sense, but the Yankee fans are savvy, are they going to buy some novelty signing and buy merch?

    Especially for a player I betcha most Giant and Jets fans don't particularly like.

    Just seems like an odd thing for Russell to do.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    kidhawk wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:So the question is why?

    Why does Russ want to be traded to the Yankees? Obviously this was facilitated by his agent for some reason.

    I've read online that this is for leverage going into a contract year next year? But that doesn't make sense, NO ONE including someone as smart as John Schneider believes Russell would ever toil in the minors making 75k a year over 25M as a QB in the NFL.


    Assuming Wilson asked for this, there is probably one major reason behind it and that's endorsement money. As big as his name is now, associate it with a team like the Yankees and watch his endorsements continue to climb. Getting to be a popular face in the NY market is HUGE for after his football career is over.


    I guess this makes sense, but the Yankee fans are savvy, are they going to buy some novelty signing and buy merch?

    Especially for a player I betcha most Giant and Jets fans don't particularly like.

    Just seems like an odd thing for Russell to do.

    I don’t see this as a big deal outside of a few more ad dollars in Russ’ pocket.
    Besides we don’t know if he asked for it. This could all be Yankees marketing.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
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    Sgt. Largent wrote:So the question is why?

    Why does Russ want to be traded to the Yankees? Obviously this was facilitated by his agent for some reason.

    I've read online that this is for leverage going into a contract year next year? But that doesn't make sense, NO ONE including someone as smart as John Schneider believes Russell would ever toil in the minors making 75k a year over 25M as a QB in the NFL.


    Assuming Wilson asked for this, there is probably one major reason behind it and that's endorsement money. As big as his name is now, associate it with a team like the Yankees and watch his endorsements continue to climb. Getting to be a popular face in the NY market is HUGE for after his football career is over.


    I guess this makes sense, but the Yankee fans are savvy, are they going to buy some novelty signing and buy merch?

    Especially for a player I betcha most Giant and Jets fans don't particularly like.

    Just seems like an odd thing for Russell to do.


    My point wasn't in particular to Yankees merchandise, just getting his popularity to rise in the NY market. That plays well for advertisers as the East Coast is where the money is as far as marketing is concerned, and also careers after football. By gaining popularity on the East coast, he increases his brand value if that makes sense.
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  • Sports Hernia wrote:I don’t see this as a big deal outside of a few more ad dollars in Russ’ pocket.
    Besides we don’t know if he asked for it. This could all be Yankees marketing.
    I thinks it’s safe to say the Yankees have the best QB in New York now. :)


    I'm not saying it is a big deal, or I'm mad about it. I'm just asking why, seems like a bunch of nonsense.

    The Yankee fans or east coast markets aren't going to embrace Russell's endorsement empire any more than we'd embrace Eli Manning being signed by the M's as a joke novelty signing. It's not even real.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:I don’t see this as a big deal outside of a few more ad dollars in Russ’ pocket.
    Besides we don’t know if he asked for it. This could all be Yankees marketing.
    I thinks it’s safe to say the Yankees have the best QB in New York now. :)


    I'm not saying it is a big deal, or I'm mad about it. I'm just asking why, seems like a bunch of nonsense.

    The Yankee fans or east coast markets aren't going to embrace Russell's endorsement empire any more than we'd embrace Eli Manning being signed by the M's as a joke novelty signing. It's not even real.


    It's really all just speculation...who knows....maybe Russ just always wanted to be a Yankee growing up. Maybe his agent felt it would increase his non playing value. We'll probably never know.

    In the end, it's his off season hobby. One thing is for sure, I've never seen anything he's done in the off season as a distraction from his goal of being ready to play each and every year. He is always putting in not just the time necessary to have a successful off season, but he appears to put in extra time.

    One thing I am sure most of us can agree on, it's a much better hobby than a lot what a lot of athlete's do with their off season time.
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  • kidhawk wrote:
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    Sports Hernia wrote:I don’t see this as a big deal outside of a few more ad dollars in Russ’ pocket.
    Besides we don’t know if he asked for it. This could all be Yankees marketing.
    I thinks it’s safe to say the Yankees have the best QB in New York now. :)


    I'm not saying it is a big deal, or I'm mad about it. I'm just asking why, seems like a bunch of nonsense.

    The Yankee fans or east coast markets aren't going to embrace Russell's endorsement empire any more than we'd embrace Eli Manning being signed by the M's as a joke novelty signing. It's not even real.


    It's really all just speculation...who knows....maybe Russ just always wanted to be a Yankee growing up. Maybe his agent felt it would increase his non playing value. We'll probably never know.

    In the end, it's his off season hobby. One thing is for sure, I've never seen anything he's done in the off season as a distraction from his goal of being ready to play each and every year. He is always putting in not just the time necessary to have a successful off season, but he appears to put in extra time.

    One thing I am sure most of us can agree on, it's a much better hobby than a lot what a lot of athlete's do with their off season time.


    I think it's as simple as Russell and his agent want a higher profile nationally.................but like I said, not sure a phony signing with the Yankees does that.

    But yes, it's harmless, just had me scratching my head.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:I don’t see this as a big deal outside of a few more ad dollars in Russ’ pocket.
    Besides we don’t know if he asked for it. This could all be Yankees marketing.
    I thinks it’s safe to say the Yankees have the best QB in New York now. :)


    I'm not saying it is a big deal, or I'm mad about it. I'm just asking why, seems like a bunch of nonsense.

    The Yankee fans or east coast markets aren't going to embrace Russell's endorsement empire any more than we'd embrace Eli Manning being signed by the M's as a joke novelty signing. It's not even real.

    I’m not trying to say you were, my statement was stated in a general sense, my apologies if it read like I was singling you out.
    Kid explained it better and than I did. My guess is it is trying to get RW’s “brand” out to a major market for future endorsements.
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  • If Wilson plays in Spring Ball in Tampa which is where the Yankees have their training camp he will be marketed, Yankees will use it the best they can and I would think with Yankee Money there will be a choice made every time a contract situation comes up. Throw in the Mediots now saying that Wilson is wanting to come to the Giants or Jets to push it. Wilsons Agent is a Baseball guy as well, Wilson is his only Football client.
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  • chris98251 wrote:If Wilson plays in Spring Ball in Tampa which is where the Yankees have their training camp he will be marketed, Yankees will use it the best they can and I would think with Yankee Money there will be a choice made every time a contract situation comes up. Throw in the Mediots now saying that Wilson is wanting to come to the Giants or Jets to push it. Wilsons Agent is a Baseball guy as well, Wilson is his only Football client.


    C'mon, no one thinks the Yankees are going to pay Wilson even close to the kind of money it'd take to lure him away from football.

    Russell's a singe A or AA player at best, those guys make 50k a year.

    If Russell and his agent made this move for some sort of leverage play because his extension is looming next year, they're idiots. No way in hell Russell's passing up a 4-5 year 25-30M a year football contract to go stink in the minors at age 30.

    This is nothing more than a publicity stunt cause Russell thinks he can expand his brand, and IMO it's a poor one, cause no east coast Yankee or baseball fans gives a crap about Russell Wilson.
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  • Yeah they said the same about Tebow and now he has been moved up to the big league clubs spring training for the Mets. If they can make a buck of his name since they have his rights they will.

    Wilson may not be serious granted, but he also may be looking at our O line and saying can I survive another year, he is just a fielder that can hit for contact at best from what I read.

    It's his agent and business as you say brand that will benefit, cannot underestimate the stupidity of what people will buy into or react too as well.
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  • chris98251 wrote:Yeah they said the same about Tebow and now he has been moved up to the big league clubs spring training for the Mets. If they can make a buck of his name since they have his rights they will.

    Wilson may not be serious granted, but he also may be looking at our O line and saying can I survive another year, he is just a fielder that can hit for contact at best from what I read.

    It's his agent and business as you say brand that will benefit, cannot underestimate the stupidity of what people will buy into or react too as well.


    Tebow couldn't find a job in the NFL, that's why he's playing baseball...................and sure the Yankees might get some pub for Wilson being at spring training with them, just as the Rangers did.

    Famous QB comes in and gives the players a pep talk and takes some grounders. No harm in that.

    But for Russell and/or his agent to think this is some sort of leverage against the Hawks next year for contract negotiations? That's laughable.
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    chris98251 wrote:Yeah they said the same about Tebow and now he has been moved up to the big league clubs spring training for the Mets. If they can make a buck of his name since they have his rights they will.

    Wilson may not be serious granted, but he also may be looking at our O line and saying can I survive another year, he is just a fielder that can hit for contact at best from what I read.

    It's his agent and business as you say brand that will benefit, cannot underestimate the stupidity of what people will buy into or react too as well.


    Tebow couldn't find a job in the NFL, that's why he's playing baseball...................and sure the Yankees might get some pub for Wilson being at spring training with them, just as the Rangers did.

    Famous QB comes in and gives the players a pep talk and takes some grounders. No harm in that.

    But for Russell and/or his agent to think this is some sort of leverage against the Hawks next year for contract negotiations? That's laughable.

    Plus Russ would look chubby in pinstripes. 8)
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    getnasty wrote:Maybe I just hate the Yankees but I feel like Russ needs to focus more on football and give up the rest of these distractions. Yes I know he was great last year but could he be better if he didn't have all of this other stuff going on?

    Russ has no control over his baseball rights getting traded, but I’m assuming you knew that.

    There's no way you can convince me the Yankees made this trade out of the blue. I guarantee you him and his agent made it happen.

    This is a non-story anyway. Wilson grew up a Yankees fan. I'm sure he'll show up to Spring Training, don the pinstripes for one day, maybe get one at-bat, play 2B for an inning or two, and then call it a day. I don't think this is a publicity stunt, it's more of a "Billy Crystal checks a box off his bucket list and suits up for the Yanks" situation. Wilson will fulfill his childhood dream of "playing" for the Yankees, and his dream will be complete. Maybe he even pays the organization an annual visit every Spring Training, who knows.

    I'm absolutely positive he's completely committed to football and that this is only him dabbling in a little offseason fun.
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  • Is he really trying to make a major league team or is this just for some stuff to do in the off season for fun and to stay in shape? He wants to be a 2 sport star like Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders?
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  • SanDiego49er wrote:Is he really trying to make a major league team or is this just for some stuff to do in the off season for fun and to stay in shape? He wants to be a 2 sport star like Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders?


    I think the guy just loves baseball, no more no less.
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