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  • This dude has "BUST" written all over him! Good luck Cleveland.
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  • He was so obviously mad about falling so far and having to go to the Browns. If anyone can bust a draft pick it's the Browns.
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  • He's probably the most motivated (bitterly motivated, anyways) player drafted, at this point. Could drive him to excel.
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  • Well he does have "bust" all over him in that pic
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:He's probably the most motivated (bitterly motivated, anyways) player drafted, at this point. Could drive him to excel.


    That may be, but his attitude doesn't say "I'll show you what a 5th round pick is for underestimating me!" like Sherman. It says "I'm entitled to be picked first because that was the hype."

    I'd feel more comfortable thinking the guy would succeed if we'd have drafted him. Here at least, I know Pete'll either stamp that attitude right out of him and get him believing in true competition, or cut his ass loose. In Cleveland? He'll be heralded as the "franchise savior" immediately, thrust into a position where he's the assumed, anointed starter, with high expectations thrust on him from the beginning. That doesn't exactly scream "motivated to compete and excel." It says, "Well, here I am. Johnny Goddamned Football. Half the draft pick they said I was. In Cleve Land."
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  • What's up with the hand weirdness? Anyone catch how he was clapping when his teammates were selected?
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  • Seahawk Sailor wrote:That may be, but his attitude doesn't say "I'll show you what a 5th round pick is for underestimating me!" like Sherman. It says "I'm entitled to be picked first because that was the hype."

    I'd feel more comfortable thinking the guy would succeed if we'd have drafted him. Here at least, I know Pete'll either stamp that attitude right out of him and get him believing in true competition, or cut his ass loose. In Cleveland? He'll be heralded as the "franchise savior" immediately, thrust into a position where he's the assumed, anointed starter, with high expectations thrust on him from the beginning. That doesn't exactly scream "motivated to compete and excel." It says, "Well, here I am. Johnny Goddamned Football. Half the draft pick they said I was. In Cleve Land."

    Bottom line is, hurt ego is hurt ego and can motivate anybody to excel at a high level. I'm not saying that's going to happen here, but I suspect there's a decent chance.
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  • I don't know what's more annoying, that second pic of his "signature hand shake" or hearing him describe it in a press conference.
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  • Such an ugly chud. He's lucky he's a high-profile athlete, he'd never be able to pull hot tail like that if he wasn't.
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  • He needs to be on the Browns..He can't complain about not playing because he will be..They will let him be his own type of qb and as soon as he gets slaughtered that will be the end of "Johnny Football" ..He won't have a great wr-Gordon to bail him out when he's running all over the place...
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  • Suggs is going to break him in half
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  • Hasn't even taken a snap and he's a bust, .net you are in mid season form already!
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  • -The Glove- wrote:Well he does have "bust" all over him in that pic

    I nominate The Glove for .net Rothlisberger
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  • SalishHawkFan wrote:
    -The Glove- wrote:Well he does have "bust" all over him in that pic

    I nominate The Glove for .net Rothlisberger


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  • Really easy guy to root against.

    Hope he fails miserably.
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  • Suggs is going to break him in half


    Agreed, Suggs is one badass dude, he looks like Lurtz from Lord of the Rings.

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  • I honesly have no idea why this "this goofy ass tool" thinks he is gonna be a successful NFL quarterback? Come back and re-visit my post regargind him. This is man is a BUST!!!!
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  • GLOCKHAWK wrote:I honesly have no idea why this "this goofy ass tool" thinks he is gonna be a successful NFL quarterback? Come back and re-visit my post regargind him. This is man is a BUST!!!!

    He is Ryan Leaf (mini) version 2.0. I feel bad for Browns fans in advance. I was hoping that Jerry Jones would have NOT listened to his advisors and taken him. Would have loved to see that S show in Dallas. 8)
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  • The Browns are the only other team in the NFL I remotely care about because I respect their fans. Manziel is going to be on the wrong end of an NFL Network top 10 list and tear the hearts out of those fans again.
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  • GLOCKHAWK wrote:I honesly have no idea why this "this goofy ass tool" thinks he is gonna be a successful NFL quarterback? Come back and re-visit my post regargind him. This is man is a BUST!!!!


    You like those goofy corny stupid videos. Your opinion isnt worth much. When/if he does bust dont pound your chest too hard. There are only a million of you that share the same opinion.
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  • The insta-hate makes me like him even more. Sure, he could calm it down but that is 59 yo me saying that. He may never amount to much, but until he falls on his face, I am just going to let this story go it's own course. The whorish media is who helped create this guy, so any protests from them about his behavior is hypocritical. He isn't my team's QB, so I have no skin in the game.

    Maybe he goes the way of Tebow and just slinks into the background? But if he catches fire, the same critics he has growing by the minute will be back to salute him. Then turn around and cut his throat the first chance they get. Rinse/Re-cycle.

    At least I could party with this guy vs hanging with Tim Tebow. Neither may be an NFL QB, but I wouldn't feel bad having a few cold ones in a Manziel-party, though I would be the creepy old guy oogling the young ladies. So maybe I wouldn't get to party with either?
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  • I could care less how he behaves because he's not on the Seahawks.

    As to how he will perform, I have no clue... if there is one thing I have learned over the years, it's that I know jack sh*t about how a college QB will translate to the NFL.

    The margin of error is so slim and there are so many factors at play. The only three guys I was ever sure about were Marino, Brees, and Wilson. Everyone else I've been wrong about one way or another, so I stopped guessing.
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  • The_Z_Man wrote:I could care less how he behaves because he's not on the Seahawks.



    How much less could you care? I couldn't care less what haters think. I was me me or Roland. Difference is, I couldn't care less about football message board grammar.
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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    The_Z_Man wrote:I could care less how he behaves because he's not on the Seahawks.



    How much less could you care? I couldn't care less what haters think. I was me me or Roland. Difference is, I couldn't care less about football message board grammar.


    Isnt this an American thing this "could care less" issue? You all seem to say it. Baffles me.

    Anyway carry on.

    I think Manziel will do OK.
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  • Im kind of with the Doc on this. The more hate the more I like him. Also the difference between he and others is social media. Anyone that saw "Back of the Shop" with Marshawn, he speaks on it specifically. I just think it's kind of interesting the amount of hate for a kid not only out of division but out of our conference entirely. I havent seen this amount of hate for The Gonk and I dont see a huge difference.
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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    The_Z_Man wrote:I could care less how he behaves because he's not on the Seahawks.



    How much less could you care? I couldn't care less what haters think. I was me me or Roland. Difference is, I couldn't care less about football message board grammar.



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  • Bust. He doesn't care about football. He's a punk-ass kid who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He has the raw talent, but his small frame, tendency to run willy-nilly all over the field and lack of motivation will cause his career to be short and disastrous.

    I feel bad for Browns fans because they deserve better. Nobody has gotten screwed worse than them. At one time Bill Belicheck was their head coach with Nick Saban as an assistant, then Modell yanked the team and took it to Baltimore just as their All-Pro GM (Ozzie Newsome) had accumulated the talent to win a Superbowl. Sucktastic.

    And now this. Johnny Manziel is like a pimple on the ass of Cleveland, and he's going to be popped like one by some monstrous NFCN defensive lineman.

    It reminds me of the Yakov Schmirnoff joke. "Every country has a city they use for the butt of jokes. In America, it's Cleveland, in Russia, it's Cleveland."
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  • He will throw as many ints as TDs and probably play 12 game seasons until the other shoe drops. But he brings it when on the field. 2 years ago I predicted Griffin wouldn't finish his rookie year. I predict the same for Johnny Football. In the NFL, he will look like football on crack. Should be entertaining.
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  • I really cant understand why so many grown men hate this kid. I really dont. Why the hate?
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  • I don't know why I hate him. Actually a huge part has to do with the media fellatio he receives. I didn't like Luck, RGKnee, Tebow, etc because of how the media slurps them up. I know it's petty but I've never liked those guys
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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:I really cant understand why so many grown men hate this kid. I really dont. Why the hate?

    Thinking the guy is going to be a bust, is now hating on someone????
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  • I hate everything about the guy. He's arrogant. His stupid thing he does with his fingers pisses me off. Dude just rubs me the wrong way.
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  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    CALIHAWK1 wrote:I really cant understand why so many grown men hate this kid. I really dont. Why the hate?

    Thinking the guy is going to be a bust, is now hating on someone????



    Did you read the entire thread. Dont waste too much time. Just read the first sentence of Techs post. Or Gloves, where he basically acknowledges he does. I guess the amount of attention and threads created about him on are about equal with Kap. Kaps a division rival so it kind of makes sense. This kid played in the SEC and now Cleveand. The amount of attention this board shows him is more than normal. On top of that a number of peoples dislike go way beyond football. People bringing up his parents wealth etc. At that point I would say yes it is hate.
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  • Really want to see this kid tear it up; it'll be so entertaining if his game translates.

    And I hope he continues his partying lifestyle throughout; proving that having a good time and succeeding at your profession are not mutually exclusive. The more flack he receives for his perfectly legal free-time activities, the more I want to root for him.

    The stronger the hate, the more I like guys: Iverson, Deion Sanders, Sherm, T Brady, Lynch, P Rivers, Laimbeer, Calipari etc
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  • kobebryant wrote:Really want to see this kid tear it up; it'll be so entertaining if his game translates.

    And I hope he continues his partying lifestyle throughout; proving that having a good time and succeeding at your profession are not mutually exclusive. The more flack he receives for his perfectly legal free-time activities, the more I want to root for him.

    The stronger the hate, the more I like guys: Iverson, Deion Sanders, Sherm, T Brady, Lynch, P Rivers, Laimbeer, Calipari etc


    Your user name is also a man that was hated for a good portion of his career til LeBron made the decision ;)
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  • When I first saw Manziels antics at A&M, I thought what a dumb ass.

    But unlike most people who crave the spotlight, when the attention turned negative he didn't apologize, backtrack, clarify, or even slow down. My disdain turned to a respect for him, because at least the defiant little ass we see is the real person.

    Tech has every right to hate the little shit's showmanship. It still makes me cringe. But the puritanical notion that especially the QB needs to be some sort of boy scout who hones his craft 24/7 is annoying too.

    So here's to you Manziel, you defiant twerp *pours metaphorical splash of gin*. Even if you are a massive flop, keep being James Dean. When failure visits your door, don't wuss out. Because the second you apologize for being a rebel, you will just be an a**hole.
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  • This doesn't help

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ing-photo/

    If he wasn't standing in the bathroom I could see other reasons to roll a dollar bill like this (like just plain boredom), but he was standing in the bathroom........
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  • Thats awesome. Someone takes his photo in a mens room doing something. Speculates on what he is doing, says they wont speculate and then puts it in print on a headline.
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  • Throwdown wrote:
    kobebryant wrote:Really want to see this kid tear it up; it'll be so entertaining if his game translates.

    And I hope he continues his partying lifestyle throughout; proving that having a good time and succeeding at your profession are not mutually exclusive. The more flack he receives for his perfectly legal free-time activities, the more I want to root for him.

    The stronger the hate, the more I like guys: Iverson, Deion Sanders, Sherm, T Brady, Lynch, P Rivers, Laimbeer, Calipari etc


    Your user name is also a man that was hated for a good portion of his career til LeBron made the decision ;)


    Fully understood.

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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:Thats awesome. Someone takes his photo in a mens room doing something. Speculates on what he is doing, says they wont speculate and then puts it in print on a headline.


    Sounds like .net when they see pre-season photos of players and call them fat or or of shape.
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  • The hate comes from him screwing over a bunch of hapless cleveland fans who have been getting the short end of the stick for a long time. Manziel texts the GM and tells him they are going to basically own the league but I just don't see it. I don't see the dedication to a fan base that is footing the bill for all of his excess.

    Nobody should expect him to be a choir boy, but it appears he's just in it for what he can personally gain and not looking to the future.

    He's more Jamarcus Russell than Ryan Leaf and it's sad that Browns fans have to go through this once again.

    I see a catastrophic failure in his future, and he will have no one to blame but himself. Even the owner is asking him to tone it down a little and he's just thumbing his nose at them.

    If Manziel were in SF, I would love the guy, but the 49ers organization isn't that dumb.

    Where this will be funny is when Bernie Kosar gets a few drinks down and goes off on Johnny Screwball. :D
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  • mikeak wrote:If he wasn't standing in the bathroom I could see other reasons to roll a dollar bill like this (like just plain boredom), but he was standing in the bathroom........


    My friends John, Teri, and Tiffany used to roll up bills in the bathroom too around that age.

    Trust me, there were plenty of things we could have been doing... I don't know why the hell it was anyone's business speculating.

    Yea, sure, Tiffany OD'd a few months later, but it was a totally unrelated incident.

    Honestly, we could have been doing ANYTHING with those rolled up bills. Stop letting your imagination run away with you!

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  • mikeak wrote:This doesn't help

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ing-photo/

    If he wasn't standing in the bathroom I could see other reasons to roll a dollar bill like this (like just plain boredom), but he was standing in the bathroom........


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  • For all we know Johnny saw photog and did it on purpose to cause a stir. I mean every time he takes a dump its headline news so how is he ever supposed to hook up the Charlie?
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  • Johnny Football would make a very good heel in WWE. Sure, he's done stuff that could reasonably rile people up no doubt, but even before that point, he had a legion of haters. Rather than appease them or try to pretend he's Russell Wilson when in public, he takes it the other way 110%, knowing it will piss off the haters even more.

    Manziel is one of those Ichiro-type players who is both very good and very annoying the way he beats you. I definitely think winning matters to Manziel, but deep down you can see a part of him that revels in being a pain in the ass. Both on the field and off of it.
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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:For all we know Johnny saw photog and did it on purpose to cause a stir. I mean every time he takes a dump its headline news so how is he ever supposed to hook up the Charlie?


    Funny how I realize that this is probably as likely as him doing coke... In other words I don't have faith in Manziel's judgement...
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  • -The Glove- wrote:I don't know why I hate him. Actually a huge part has to do with the media fellatio he receives. I didn't like Luck, RGKnee, Tebow, etc because of how the media slurps them up. I know it's petty but I've never liked those guys


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    mikeak wrote:This doesn't help

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ing-photo/

    If he wasn't standing in the bathroom I could see other reasons to roll a dollar bill like this (like just plain boredom), but he was standing in the bathroom........


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  • There is a better photo of him in the bathroom on this page with a bit wider shot. There is also another photo of him from the same night outside of the bathroom. Notice the same shirt, same haircut, same chain. Inside the bathroom the chain is neatly tucked inside his shirt to keep it from hanging down and messing up his lines.

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  • mikeak wrote:
    CALIHAWK1 wrote:For all we know Johnny saw photog and did it on purpose to cause a stir. I mean every time he takes a dump its headline news so how is he ever supposed to hook up the Charlie?


    Funny how I realize that this is probably as likely as him doing coke... In other words I don't have faith in Manziel's judgement...


    nor should you. After all his arrests and dust ups with the law. Lets not even get into that incident with the hookers and guns that got swept under the rug. Yeah you remember. That one.
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