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Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:24 am
  • Someone said that, in words. LIke all serious.

    "The old adage is that “defense wins championships.” As discussed last week, that cliché seems more and more like a vestige of the past with each passing season, as the NFL becomes more and more focused on offense ahead of defense."

    http://cover32.com/falcons/2014/04/29/p ... n-the-nfl/

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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:27 am
  • They must have missed the superbowl this year.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:57 am
  • NFC West
    1. Seattle
    3. San Francisco
    5. St. Louis
    8. Arizona

    I sense a pattern here.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:04 am
  • MizzouHawkGal wrote:NFC West
    1. Seattle
    3. San Francisco
    5. St. Louis
    8. Arizona

    I sense a pattern here.


    Arizona should be 7???? LOL
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:08 am
  • Cover 32: the new Bleacher Report? What a bunch of clowns, lol.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:13 am
  • Seahawkfan80 wrote:
    MizzouHawkGal wrote:NFC West
    1. Seattle
    3. San Francisco
    5. St. Louis
    8. Arizona

    I sense a pattern here.


    Arizona should be 7???? LOL
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    That would have been awesome but every team in the division top 8 or better is quite badass already. Poor AFC West.... :mrgreen:
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:17 am
  • MizzouHawkGal wrote:That would have been awesome but every team in the division top 8 or better is quite badass already. Poor AFC West.... :mrgreen:



    Exactly. The entire NFC West is going to cut through the AFC West like a hot knife through a stick of butter. I'll even root for the Cards and Rams when they play (SF--nope, cannot do it).
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:30 am
  • Defense is dead?

    Lets see....

    NFC Playoff Teams

    Seattle: # 1 D
    Carolina: #2 D
    SF: #3 D
    NO: #4 D

    NFC Championship features #1 and #3 Defenses in NFL.

    SB Winner had best D in NFL against best O in the NFL...and it was a boat race.

    Defense still wins championships.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:08 am
  • Nice bait and switch on the article. I don't mind though, great way to get people's attention :D

    "some of the best offenses in NFL history weren’t able to lead their team to a Super Bowl victory.

    Dan Fouts and Air Coryell never lifted the Lombardi Trophy.

    The 1999 Minnesota Vikings came up short,

    as did the record-setting offense of Tom Brady and the New England Patriots in 2007. A

    nd just last season, Peyton Manning’s high-powered attack in Denver was bested by Seattle’s swarming defense in the Super Bowl.

    So while the league may be trending toward offense, defense is still important. Stopping people is still a part of any championship formula"

    Pretty cool poll on which inter-conference match people want to see most, 53% Seattle vs Denver.

    Friend of mine is a San Diego fan and bemoans the fact that they have to play Seattle in the preseason and the regular season. :twisted:
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:21 am
  • ivotuk wrote:Nice bait and switch on the article. I don't mind though, great way to get people's attention :D

    Bait & switch? It's from the opening paragraph of the article, and sums up the (absurdly stupid) point of the article accurately.

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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:02 pm
  • Many of the teams in the past were known for having strong offenses, but come the playoffs and the Super Bowl it was their defense that stepped up and made it easy.

    Remember the 90s Cowboys? The Dyna Niners? They both had exceptional defenses that played well in the playoffs and Super Bowl. Even the Giants haven't won one without having their defense step up. Those are teams that have an era behind them, not just a single season. Old school Pittsburgh is part of that conversation.

    Packers in 96 with Reggie White, 85 Bears, 2002 Tampa, 2005 Steelers, 2000 Ravens. All won with defense as their focus.

    I suppose the key is that with a good defense, the offense has a much better chance of putting up more points than the other guys. That is not about to change anytime.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:05 pm
  • loafoftatupu wrote:Many of the teams in the past were known for having strong offenses, but come the playoffs and the Super Bowl it was their defense that stepped up and made it easy.

    Remember the 90s Cowboys? The Dyna Niners? They both had exceptional defenses that played well in the playoffs and Super Bowl. Even the Giants haven't won one without having their defense step up. Those are teams that have an era behind them, not just a single season. Old school Pittsburgh is part of that conversation.

    Packers in 96 with Reggie White, 85 Bears, 2002 Tampa, 2005 Steelers, 2000 Ravens. All won with defense as their focus except the Packers.

    I suppose the key is that with a good defense, the offense has a much better chance of putting up more points than the other guys. That is not about to change anytime.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:07 pm
  • Also, Peyton's only ring came when elite safety Bob Sanders was out for most of the year but returned for the playoffs, and they faced a pretty weak Rex Grossman-led Bears offense to boot. Just food for thought.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:18 pm
  • The only reason Denver's defense is ranked high is because the entire AFC sucks monkey balls.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:31 pm
  • They were the league’s best defense a year ago, surrendering less than 300 yards of total offense per game

    They're quoting raw total yardage stats. These guys don't know bupkis.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:50 pm
  • SalishHawkFan wrote:
    They were the league’s best defense a year ago, surrendering less than 300 yards of total offense per game

    They're quoting raw total yardage stats. These guys don't know bupkis.


    C'mon. Everyone knows yards are a great stat. Over and over I see teams that win 400 yards to 319 yards. :sarcasm_off:

    Points scored vs points allowed is the only, and I do mean only stat that matters.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:13 pm
  • Trenchbroom wrote:
    MizzouHawkGal wrote:That would have been awesome but every team in the division top 8 or better is quite badass already. Poor AFC West.... :mrgreen:



    Exactly. The entire NFC West is going to cut through the AFC West like a hot knife through a stick of butter. I'll even root for the Cards and Rams when they play (SF--nope, cannot do it).


    I'd love to see:

    NFC W: 16 W
    AFC W: 16L
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:27 pm
  • RedAlice wrote:I'd love to see:

    NFC W: 16 W
    AFC W: 16L

    I can't even imagine the talking heads if this were to happen. No way it does, but if it did...Wow.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:10 pm
  • They could implement the mercy rule you have in Pee Wee leagues for the AFC West.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:11 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:They could implement the mercy rule you have in Pee Wee leagues for the AFC West.

    Screw that, Papa Pete loves to get our backups playing time in real games.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:27 pm
  • But Pey Pey might look bad again and then we would never have home games again, our schedule would be

    Home - 0
    Away -16
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:32 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:But Pey Pey might look bad again and then we would never have home games again, our schedule would be

    Home - 0
    Away -16

    More motivation for our guys.

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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Thu May 01, 2014 12:04 pm
  • I feel like the NFC W has a great chance to win 70+% of the games against the AFC W. Even Espn might change their mantra (still highly unlikely).
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Thu May 01, 2014 1:43 pm
  • List of reasons why the AFC West will lose games given by ESPN

    The Field is too new

    The Field is Too Old

    The weather was Too hot and the sun was in their eyes

    The Crowd was too Loud due to piped in sound and they are cheaters.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Thu May 01, 2014 6:24 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:List of reasons why the AFC West will lose games given by ESPN

    The Field is too new

    The Field is Too Old

    The weather was Too hot and the sun was in their eyes

    The Crowd was too Loud due to piped in sound and they are cheaters.

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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Fri May 02, 2014 5:06 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:List of reasons why the AFC West will lose games given by ESPN

    The Field is too new

    The Field is Too Old

    The weather was Too hot and the sun was in their eyes

    The Crowd was too Loud due to piped in sound and they are cheaters.

    I need Roland's grumpy cat pictures for this silliness.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Fri May 02, 2014 8:08 pm
  • MizzouHawkGal wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:List of reasons why the AFC West will lose games given by ESPN

    The Field is too new

    The Field is Too Old

    The weather was Too hot and the sun was in their eyes

    The Crowd was too Loud due to piped in sound and they are cheaters.

    I need Roland's grumpy cat pictures for this silliness.


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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Fri May 02, 2014 8:57 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    MizzouHawkGal wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:List of reasons why the AFC West will lose games given by ESPN

    The Field is too new

    The Field is Too Old

    The weather was Too hot and the sun was in their eyes

    The Crowd was too Loud due to piped in sound and they are cheaters.

    I need Roland's grumpy cat pictures for this silliness.


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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Fri May 02, 2014 10:20 pm
  • Anytime. There is no such thing as too much Grumpy Cat.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Sat May 03, 2014 3:01 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:....There is no such thing as too much Grumpy Cat.

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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Wed May 14, 2014 10:27 am
  • I'm pretty sure even Terry Blount could do better than that.
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Re: Defense is a Vestige of the Past
Sat May 17, 2014 12:34 pm
  • A London Hawk wrote:I'm pretty sure even Terry Blount could do better than that.

    Highly debatable, unfortunately.
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