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Week 17 - Pick your poison
Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:16 pm
  • Here are the spreads for this weeks games:

    UPDATE 12-26: Odds set for Bears/Packers now, Packers favored by 3.

    FavoriteUnderdogPoint Spread
    @DolphinsJets6.5
    @TitansTexans7.0
    Panthers@Falcons6.5
    @SteelersBrowns7.0
    @GiantsWashington3.5
    @ColtsJaguars11.5
    @VikingsLions3.0
    @BengalsRavens6.0
    @ChargersChiefs9.5
    @SeahawksRams10.5
    @PatriotsBills9.5
    Broncos@Raiders12.0
    @SaintsBucs12.5
    Eagles@Cowboys6.5
    @Cardinals9ers3.0
    Packers@Bears3.0


    Using BETONLINE.ag odds from this page

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/odds


    Week 16 "Who's the man!":
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    .NET handicapper# of PicksBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
    SonicHawk940324.00


    Week 16 "I need more cowbell!":
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    .NET handicapper# of PicksFavored WonFavored LostCover WonCover LostBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
    hawksfansinceday16001120110.38
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:18 pm
  • Scoring change. Win and cover misses now changed to (-2 pts) just like missed beat the spread. Too punitive in old format.

    This Week's "Who's the man!":
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    .NET handicapper# of PicksBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
    davidonmi52102-2.50
    RolandDeschain72311-3.75
    AbsolutNET61212-3.75
    SonicHawk81313-7.50
    OkieHawk61302-8.75
    DrDiags80413-11.25


    This Week's "I need more cowbell!":
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    .NET handicapper# of PicksFavored WonFavored LostCover WonCover LostBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
    Polaris810320110-2.81
    KCHawkGirl701111210-5.63
    hawksfansinceday1600021210-6.25


    Points calculations
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    Pick Total
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    Pick underdog outright winner - 2 pts
    Pick underdog spread winner - 1 pt
    Pick favored cover winner - 0.5
    Pick favored outright winner - 0.25

    Miss underdog outright winner - (-1 pt)
    Miss underdog spread - (-2 pts)
    Miss favored cover - (-2 pts)
    Miss favored winner - (-2 pts)

    Scale Factor (used as multiplier of Pick Total)
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    1 -4 picks = use multiplier of 1 times total value
    5 -8 picks = 0.75 (if positive) or 1.25 (if negative)
    9-12 picks = 0.50 (if positive) or 1.50 (if negative)
    13-16 picks = 0.25 (if positive) or 1.75 (if negative)

    To help me out, I suggest we use the following to annotate what type of picks you are putting in:

    [bts] - Underdog beating the spread
    [upset] - Underdog winning out right
    [cover] - Favored team covering the spread
    [win] - Favored team winning
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:55 pm
  • God, I have to do better than the last couple of weeks, so here goes.

    Cover: Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags

    BTS: Lions, Cowboys
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:10 pm
  • Here are my picks:

    [bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
    [upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:16 pm
  • drdiags wrote:
    OkieHawk wrote:God, I have to do better than the last couple of weeks, so here goes.

    Cover: Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags

    BTS: Lions, Cowboys


    Since all 6 of these guys are underdogs is one of the two categories "upset" instead of "Beat the spread" or "Favor to cover"? Right now this looks like you are picking all 6 underdogs to beat or cover the spread so not sure if you want 6 to "BTS" or 2 to "BTS" and 4 to "Upset".


    Man, this wasn't as difficult last week :lol:

    Change the BTS to upset, the other 4 should be ok...?
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:24 pm
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:52 pm
  • After last week's debacle I should be banned Doc.
    43-8...it's all about that action boss....
    next man up.
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:40 am
  • KCHawkGirl wrote:After last week's debacle I should be banned Doc.


    Just think if you had hit them though. I am going to stretch out a little this week and see if I can beat the house. Doubt it, but it's only virtual cash. I still think picking a favored team has no upside, so I am sticking with under-dogs beating the spread or pulling the upset.
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:49 am
  • I actually did better than I thought (I didn't look before I posted that).I have no idea how this thing (your point system) works anyway so I am just having fun and taking risks that I wouldn't if actually betting money.:)

    I will do my Captain Insano picks later this week.
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:35 am
  • Underdog Covers: Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams

    Underdog Outrights: Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

    Going crazy this week.
    I enjoy ruining threads by making them about personal attacks and then commenting about how personal attacks make the other person's argument invalid.

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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:27 pm
  • [bts] - Texans, Falcons, Jaguars, Chiefs, Bucs
    [upset] - Lions, 49ers
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:09 pm
  • Underdogs to beat the spread:
    Falcons
    Ravens
    Rams

    Underdogs to win outright:
    Lions
    Chiefs
    49ers
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:16 pm
  • Here go my picks:

    Panthers--cover
    Jags--beat the spread
    Seahawks--win (not necessarily cover)
    Broncos--cover
    Saints (at home)--cover
    Eagles--cover
    49ners--win outright

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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:13 pm
  • Picks

    "Who's the Man!"


    OkieHawk (6) [bts] Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags
    [upset] Lions, Cowboys

    DrDiags (8) [bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
    [upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys

    SonicHawk (8) [bts] Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

    RolandDeschain (7) [bts] - Texans, Falcons, Jaguars, Chiefs, Bucs
    [upset] - Lions, 49ers

    AbsolutNET (6) [bts] Falcons, Ravens, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Chiefs, 49ers



    "I need more cowbell!"

    Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
    [upset] 49ers,
    [cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers
    [win] Seahawks

    KCHawkGirl (3) [bts] Chiefs
    [cover] Seahawks
    [win] Washington

    hawksfansinceday1 (6) [bts] Rams, Chiefs, Texans
    [upset] 9ers
    [cover] Panthers, Eagles
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:27 am
  • Given your latest update, I'd like to add one more if I could:

    Packers COVER over the Bears.
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:55 am
  • OK, ringing the cowbell (LOL) for:

    Underdogs to win outright: 9ers (cuz NO will get way ahead of TB and Cards will lose edge and thus effort)

    Underdogs to cover: Rams, Chiefs (cuz SD will be out by the time the game starts after Phins victory), Texans

    Favs to cover: Panthers, Eagles
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:44 pm
  • Chiefs to beat the spread Seahawks to cover. Washington to win.
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:13 pm
  • Jaguars, Raiders to beat the spread. 49ers to win.
    43-8...it's all about that action boss....
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:26 pm
  • And Philadelphia to cover (my post edits aren't being shown for some reason).
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:53 pm
  • Picks

    "Who's the Man!"


    OkieHawk (6) [bts] Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags
    [upset] Lions, Cowboys

    DrDiags (8) [bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
    [upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys

    SonicHawk (8) [bts] Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

    RolandDeschain (7) [bts] - Texans, Falcons, Jaguars, Chiefs, Bucs
    [upset] - Lions, 49ers

    AbsolutNET (6) [bts] Falcons, Ravens, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Chiefs, 49ers



    "I need more cowbell!"

    Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
    [upset] 49ers,
    [cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers
    [win] Seahawks


    KCHawkGirl (7) [bts] Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders
    [upset] 49ers
    [cover] Seahawks, Eagles
    [win] Washington

    hawksfansinceday1 (6) [bts] Rams, Chiefs, Texans
    [upset] 9ers
    [cover] Panthers, Eagles
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:22 am
  • sorry I'm late
    Cover: Jets, Falcons, Rams
    Outright: Lions, Bears
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:23 am
  • Where are you getting the 49ers-Cards line? This is a pickem from everything I have read
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:26 am
  • drdiags wrote:"I need more cowbell!"

    Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
    [upset] 49ers,
    [cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers
    [win] Seahawks


    You got my number of picks correct, but I don't see my Broncos (cover) pick listed here. Just want to make sure you have it.
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:34 pm
  • SoHo9erFan wrote:Where are you getting the 49ers-Cards line? This is a pickem from everything I have read


    Used the Yahoo link in the OP. For the 9ers/Cards it was a pick-em so I ended up using the Yahoo Pick-em odds which had the Cards favored by 3. This is just to identify a "favorite" since folks around here tend to pick a winner when the odds are "pickem" and I just got tired of having to state the game is even, thus no underdog. No money passes hands so I just made a command decision.

    The following link shows Cards (-3) as of 1:07 p.m. PDT

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/odds
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:39 pm
  • Polaris wrote:
    drdiags wrote:"I need more cowbell!"

    Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
    [upset] 49ers,
    [cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers
    [win] Seahawks


    You got my number of picks correct, but I don't see my Broncos (cover) pick listed here. Just want to make sure you have it.


    Caught it. As I stated in the OP, it would help me a bunch if folks would use the format you see in the posts. Otherwise I have to read a line by line and then convert them over to the four categories as identified in the OP. Others do the same as you, so I just convert them to my lingo, which is underdogs can only be [bts] and [upset] while favored are [cover] and [win].

    Since my good friend Pithy has a saying about getting folks to do the way you want them to do things (herding cats), I just try to get it right. Eyesight is not the best, so glad you keep me on my toes.
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:41 pm
  • Latest as of this morning's addition:

    Picks

    "Who's the Man!"


    OkieHawk (6) [bts] Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags
    [upset] Lions, Cowboys

    DrDiags (8) [bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
    [upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys

    SonicHawk (8) [bts] Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

    RolandDeschain (7) [bts] - Texans, Falcons, Jaguars, Chiefs, Bucs
    [upset] - Lions, 49ers

    AbsolutNET (6) [bts] Falcons, Ravens, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Chiefs, 49ers

    davidonmi (5) [bts] Jets, Falcons, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Bears


    "I need more cowbell!"

    Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
    [upset] 49ers,
    [cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers, Broncos
    [win] Seahawks

    hawksfansinceday1 (6) [bts] Rams, Chiefs, Texans
    [upset] 9ers
    [cover] Panthers, Eagles

    KCHawkGirl (7) [bts] Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders
    [upset] 49ers
    [cover] Seahawks, Eagles
    [win] Washington
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:41 pm
  • Final Results

    "Who's the Man!"


    OkieHawk (6) [bts] Ravens, Bucs, Jags, Chiefs
    [upset] Lions, Cowboys

    DrDiags (8) [bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
    [upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys

    SonicHawk (8) [bts] Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

    RolandDeschain (7) [bts] - Texans, Jaguars, Bucs, Chiefs, Falcons
    [upset] - Lions, 49ers

    AbsolutNET (6) [bts] Falcons, Ravens, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Chiefs, 49ers

    davidonmi (5) [bts] Jets, Falcons, Rams
    [upset] Lions, Bears


    "I need more cowbell!"

    Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
    [upset] 49ers
    [cover] Eagles, Panthers, Saints, Packers, Broncos
    [win] Seahawks

    hawksfansinceday1 (6) [bts] Rams, Texans Chiefs
    [upset] 9ers
    [cover] Panthers, Eagles

    KCHawkGirl (7) [bts] Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders
    [upset] 49ers
    [cover] Seahawks, Eagles
    [win] Washington
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:13 pm
  • Here is this week's winners

    Week 17 "Who's the man!":
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    .NET handicapper# of PicksBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
    davidonmi52102-2.50


    Week 17 "I need more cowbell!":
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    .NET handicapper# of PicksFavored WonFavored LostCover WonCover LostBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
    Polaris810320110-2.81
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:08 pm
  • I won with a negative score, geez
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:14 pm
  • davidonmi wrote:I won with a negative score, geez


    Pretty much my reaction. I thought I bombed. I did I guess. I just bombed less than the others.
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Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:19 pm
  • Polaris wrote:
    davidonmi wrote:I won with a negative score, geez


    Pretty much my reaction. I thought I bombed. I did I guess. I just bombed less than the others.

    Hehe.:)
    43-8...it's all about that action boss....
    next man up.
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