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 Post subject: Week 17 - Pick your poison
 Post Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:16 pm 
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Here are the spreads for this weeks games:

UPDATE 12-26: Odds set for Bears/Packers now, Packers favored by 3.

FavoriteUnderdogPoint Spread
@DolphinsJets6.5
@TitansTexans7.0
Panthers@Falcons6.5
@SteelersBrowns7.0
@GiantsWashington3.5
@ColtsJaguars11.5
@VikingsLions3.0
@BengalsRavens6.0
@ChargersChiefs9.5
@SeahawksRams10.5
@PatriotsBills9.5
Broncos@Raiders12.0
@SaintsBucs12.5
Eagles@Cowboys6.5
@Cardinals9ers3.0
Packers@Bears3.0


Using BETONLINE.ag odds from this page

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/odds


Week 16 "Who's the man!":
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.NET handicapper# of PicksBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
SonicHawk940324.00


Week 16 "I need more cowbell!":
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.NET handicapper# of PicksFavored WonFavored LostCover WonCover LostBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
hawksfansinceday16001120110.38

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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Scoring change. Win and cover misses now changed to (-2 pts) just like missed beat the spread. Too punitive in old format.

This Week's "Who's the man!":
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.NET handicapper# of PicksBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
davidonmi52102-2.50
RolandDeschain72311-3.75
AbsolutNET61212-3.75
SonicHawk81313-7.50
OkieHawk61302-8.75
DrDiags80413-11.25


This Week's "I need more cowbell!":
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.NET handicapper# of PicksFavored WonFavored LostCover WonCover LostBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
Polaris810320110-2.81
KCHawkGirl701111210-5.63
hawksfansinceday1600021210-6.25


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Pick Total
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Pick underdog outright winner - 2 pts
Pick underdog spread winner - 1 pt
Pick favored cover winner - 0.5
Pick favored outright winner - 0.25

Miss underdog outright winner - (-1 pt)
Miss underdog spread - (-2 pts)
Miss favored cover - (-2 pts)
Miss favored winner - (-2 pts)

Scale Factor (used as multiplier of Pick Total)
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1 -4 picks = use multiplier of 1 times total value
5 -8 picks = 0.75 (if positive) or 1.25 (if negative)
9-12 picks = 0.50 (if positive) or 1.50 (if negative)
13-16 picks = 0.25 (if positive) or 1.75 (if negative)

To help me out, I suggest we use the following to annotate what type of picks you are putting in:

[bts] - Underdog beating the spread
[upset] - Underdog winning out right
[cover] - Favored team covering the spread
[win] - Favored team winning

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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God, I have to do better than the last couple of weeks, so here goes.

Cover: Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags

BTS: Lions, Cowboys

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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Here are my picks:

[bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
[upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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drdiags wrote:
OkieHawk wrote:
God, I have to do better than the last couple of weeks, so here goes.

Cover: Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags

BTS: Lions, Cowboys


Since all 6 of these guys are underdogs is one of the two categories "upset" instead of "Beat the spread" or "Favor to cover"? Right now this looks like you are picking all 6 underdogs to beat or cover the spread so not sure if you want 6 to "BTS" or 2 to "BTS" and 4 to "Upset".


Man, this wasn't as difficult last week :lol:

Change the BTS to upset, the other 4 should be ok...?

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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After last week's debacle I should be banned Doc.

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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After last week's debacle I should be banned Doc.


Just think if you had hit them though. I am going to stretch out a little this week and see if I can beat the house. Doubt it, but it's only virtual cash. I still think picking a favored team has no upside, so I am sticking with under-dogs beating the spread or pulling the upset.

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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I actually did better than I thought (I didn't look before I posted that).I have no idea how this thing (your point system) works anyway so I am just having fun and taking risks that I wouldn't if actually betting money.:)

I will do my Captain Insano picks later this week.

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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Underdog Covers: Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams

Underdog Outrights: Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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[bts] - Texans, Falcons, Jaguars, Chiefs, Bucs
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Underdogs to beat the spread:
Falcons
Ravens
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Underdogs to win outright:
Lions
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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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Here go my picks:

Panthers--cover
Jags--beat the spread
Seahawks--win (not necessarily cover)
Broncos--cover
Saints (at home)--cover
Eagles--cover
49ners--win outright

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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"Who's the Man!"

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OkieHawk (6) [bts] Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags
[upset] Lions, Cowboys

DrDiags (8) [bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
[upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys

SonicHawk (8) [bts] Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams
[upset] Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

RolandDeschain (7) [bts] - Texans, Falcons, Jaguars, Chiefs, Bucs
[upset] - Lions, 49ers

AbsolutNET (6) [bts] Falcons, Ravens, Rams
[upset] Lions, Chiefs, 49ers



"I need more cowbell!"

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Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
[upset] 49ers,
[cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers
[win] Seahawks

KCHawkGirl (3) [bts] Chiefs
[cover] Seahawks
[win] Washington

hawksfansinceday1 (6) [bts] Rams, Chiefs, Texans
[upset] 9ers
[cover] Panthers, Eagles

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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Given your latest update, I'd like to add one more if I could:

Packers COVER over the Bears.


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OK, ringing the cowbell (LOL) for:

Underdogs to win outright: 9ers (cuz NO will get way ahead of TB and Cards will lose edge and thus effort)

Underdogs to cover: Rams, Chiefs (cuz SD will be out by the time the game starts after Phins victory), Texans

Favs to cover: Panthers, Eagles

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Chiefs to beat the spread Seahawks to cover. Washington to win.

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Jaguars, Raiders to beat the spread. 49ers to win.

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And Philadelphia to cover (my post edits aren't being shown for some reason).

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 Post subject: Re: Week 17 - Pick your poison
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OkieHawk (6) [bts] Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags
[upset] Lions, Cowboys

DrDiags (8) [bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
[upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys

SonicHawk (8) [bts] Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams
[upset] Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

RolandDeschain (7) [bts] - Texans, Falcons, Jaguars, Chiefs, Bucs
[upset] - Lions, 49ers

AbsolutNET (6) [bts] Falcons, Ravens, Rams
[upset] Lions, Chiefs, 49ers



"I need more cowbell!"

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Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
[upset] 49ers,
[cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers
[win] Seahawks


KCHawkGirl (7) [bts] Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders
[upset] 49ers
[cover] Seahawks, Eagles
[win] Washington

hawksfansinceday1 (6) [bts] Rams, Chiefs, Texans
[upset] 9ers
[cover] Panthers, Eagles

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Where are you getting the 49ers-Cards line? This is a pickem from everything I have read


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drdiags wrote:
"I need more cowbell!"

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Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
[upset] 49ers,
[cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers
[win] Seahawks


You got my number of picks correct, but I don't see my Broncos (cover) pick listed here. Just want to make sure you have it.


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Where are you getting the 49ers-Cards line? This is a pickem from everything I have read


Used the Yahoo link in the OP. For the 9ers/Cards it was a pick-em so I ended up using the Yahoo Pick-em odds which had the Cards favored by 3. This is just to identify a "favorite" since folks around here tend to pick a winner when the odds are "pickem" and I just got tired of having to state the game is even, thus no underdog. No money passes hands so I just made a command decision.

The following link shows Cards (-3) as of 1:07 p.m. PDT

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/odds

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Polaris wrote:
drdiags wrote:
"I need more cowbell!"

Quote:
Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
[upset] 49ers,
[cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers
[win] Seahawks


You got my number of picks correct, but I don't see my Broncos (cover) pick listed here. Just want to make sure you have it.


Caught it. As I stated in the OP, it would help me a bunch if folks would use the format you see in the posts. Otherwise I have to read a line by line and then convert them over to the four categories as identified in the OP. Others do the same as you, so I just convert them to my lingo, which is underdogs can only be [bts] and [upset] while favored are [cover] and [win].

Since my good friend Pithy has a saying about getting folks to do the way you want them to do things (herding cats), I just try to get it right. Eyesight is not the best, so glad you keep me on my toes.

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"Who's the Man!"

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OkieHawk (6) [bts] Ravens, Chiefs, Bucs, Jags
[upset] Lions, Cowboys

DrDiags (8) [bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
[upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys

SonicHawk (8) [bts] Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams
[upset] Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

RolandDeschain (7) [bts] - Texans, Falcons, Jaguars, Chiefs, Bucs
[upset] - Lions, 49ers

AbsolutNET (6) [bts] Falcons, Ravens, Rams
[upset] Lions, Chiefs, 49ers

davidonmi (5) [bts] Jets, Falcons, Rams
[upset] Lions, Bears


"I need more cowbell!"

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Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
[upset] 49ers,
[cover] Eagles, Saints, Panthers, Packers, Broncos
[win] Seahawks

hawksfansinceday1 (6) [bts] Rams, Chiefs, Texans
[upset] 9ers
[cover] Panthers, Eagles

KCHawkGirl (7) [bts] Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders
[upset] 49ers
[cover] Seahawks, Eagles
[win] Washington

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"Who's the Man!"

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OkieHawk (6) [bts] Ravens, Bucs, Jags, Chiefs
[upset] Lions, Cowboys

DrDiags (8) [bts] Jaguars, Bucs, Rams, Raiders
[upset] 9ers, Lions, Ravens, Cowboys

SonicHawk (8) [bts] Jets, Texans, Jaguars, Rams
[upset] Lions, Bucs, Cowboys, 9ers

RolandDeschain (7) [bts] - Texans, Jaguars, Bucs, Chiefs, Falcons
[upset] - Lions, 49ers

AbsolutNET (6) [bts] Falcons, Ravens, Rams
[upset] Lions, Chiefs, 49ers

davidonmi (5) [bts] Jets, Falcons, Rams
[upset] Lions, Bears


"I need more cowbell!"

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Polaris (8) [bts] Jaguars
[upset] 49ers
[cover] Eagles, Panthers, Saints, Packers, Broncos
[win] Seahawks

hawksfansinceday1 (6) [bts] Rams, Texans Chiefs
[upset] 9ers
[cover] Panthers, Eagles

KCHawkGirl (7) [bts] Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders
[upset] 49ers
[cover] Seahawks, Eagles
[win] Washington

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Here is this week's winners

Week 17 "Who's the man!":
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.NET handicapper# of PicksBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
davidonmi52102-2.50


Week 17 "I need more cowbell!":
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.NET handicapper# of PicksFavored WonFavored LostCover WonCover LostBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
Polaris810320110-2.81

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I won with a negative score, geez


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I won with a negative score, geez


Pretty much my reaction. I thought I bombed. I did I guess. I just bombed less than the others.


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I won with a negative score, geez


Pretty much my reaction. I thought I bombed. I did I guess. I just bombed less than the others.

Hehe.:)

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