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  • Polaris wrote:
    MidwestHawker wrote:To answer OP: San Francisco loses tomorrow night's game like 2% of the time. I'll tune in and hope against hope, but it would be one of the most shocking results of the NFL season (possibly #1) and I certainly don't expect it to happen.


    More to the point if the Niners were in Seahawks uniforms and get 4 Arizona picks, they don't lose the game. Period. Say what you like about the Niners (and I still don't think they are as good a team), but they know how to win games they are supposed to win.


    This is the most troubling aspect of the loss IMO... The fact that Carson Palmer did every bit his part to ensure a Hawks win and the STILL couldn't get it done... +3 in the turnover margin has a ridiculous winning percentage and now this team is on the ass end of that crazy stat... Not good.
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  • OK....

    To address a few things I've read in this forum...

    1) RELAX. Seahawks will be fine. They will still be the #1 seed because they will NOT lose to the Rams in Seattle.

    2) 49er CRUSH far inferior teams and struggle against better teams. They do NOT play to the level of their competition. That whole stupid argument about the Colts and the fact that they were 7.5 point favorites is meaningless because it was freakin week 3 and nobody really knew who was really good and who wasn't yet. Those Colts beat the 49ers, the Seahawks, the Broncos, and the Chiefs this season. They have already won their division and will be playing in January. They were not a bad team.

    3) Arizona is good. Particularly on Defense. If the Niners win tonight, they still have a tough task in Arizona next week. To you peeps saying "the QB threw 4 picks, they suck", you might want to take a gander at the standings. The NFC West has THREE teams with 10 wins with a week to play. The LAST place team in the division could still go 8-8 AND still has a shot at the 1st pick in the draft. There is no shame in losing to Arizona. The only thing that was really damaged yesterday was the aura of invincibility in Seattle....but I CERTAINLY don't see them losing there twice in 2 weeks. No freakin way.
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  • This is just a classic aberration type game to me, let it sting, throw it out, and take care of biz next week.
    RW is going to struggle at times, especially when the running game is stuggling. Thats true for every qb in the league.
    He has been so solid overall that its easy to forget he is still a 2nd year player playing the most difficult postion in all of sports.
    You didnt sustain any injuries and the clutch close wins that you earned early in the season afforded you the ability to make this loss meaningless with a victory over the Rams.
    Beat rams, dont get hurt and in a few weeks this game is as meaningless as Sarah Palin.
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  • Weadoption wrote:This is just a classic aberration type game to me, let it sting, throw it out, and take care of biz next week.
    RW is going to struggle at times, especially when the running game is stuggling. Thats true for every qb in the league.
    He has been so solid overall that its easy to forget he is still a 2nd year player playing the most difficult postion in all of sports.
    You didnt sustain any injuries and the clutch close wins that you earned early in the season afforded you the ability to make this loss meaningless with a victory over the Rams.
    Beat rams, dont get hurt and in a few weeks this game is as meaningless as Sarah Palin.


    Agreed....funny tho that its 2 Niner fans that are saying this game was no big deal. :D
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  • Marvin49 wrote:OK....

    To address a few things I've read in this forum...

    1) RELAX. Seahawks will be fine. They will still be the #1 seed because they will NOT lose to the Rams in Seattle.

    2) 49er CRUSH far inferior teams and struggle against better teams. They do NOT play to the level of their competition. That whole stupid argument about the Colts and the fact that they were 7.5 point favorites is meaningless because it was freakin week 3 and nobody really knew who was really good and who wasn't yet. Those Colts beat the 49ers, the Seahawks, the Broncos, and the Chiefs this season. They have already won their division and will be playing in January. They were not a bad team.

    3) Arizona is good. Particularly on Defense. If the Niners win tonight, they still have a tough task in Arizona next week. To you peeps saying "the QB threw 4 picks, they suck", you might want to take a gander at the standings. The NFC West has THREE teams with 10 wins with a week to play. The LAST place team in the division could still go 8-8 AND still has a shot at the 1st pick in the draft. There is no shame in losing to Arizona. The only thing that was really damaged yesterday was the aura of invincibility in Seattle....but I CERTAINLY don't see them losing there twice in 2 weeks. No freakin way.


    Amazing that it takes a goddamn niner fan (no offense) to be the voice of reason in here. Thanks Marvin. I think most of us are fine, but we all tend to get a little emotional after a tough loss, especially at home. I've seen you have to deal with it over at the webzone, too. I think we'll be more than fine - BUT - do you think this puts a wee bit more pressure on the niners tonight? I mean, if they lose to ATL, that means that Arizona have a great shot at making the playoffs in the wildcard spot if they can beat you all next weekend. Just looking for your thoughts on that, and the reason I ask is because I really think that the pressure got to our Offense yesterday, but thankfully they have another chance to clinch #1 again next week.
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  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:OK....

    To address a few things I've read in this forum...

    1) RELAX. Seahawks will be fine. They will still be the #1 seed because they will NOT lose to the Rams in Seattle.

    2) 49er CRUSH far inferior teams and struggle against better teams. They do NOT play to the level of their competition. That whole stupid argument about the Colts and the fact that they were 7.5 point favorites is meaningless because it was freakin week 3 and nobody really knew who was really good and who wasn't yet. Those Colts beat the 49ers, the Seahawks, the Broncos, and the Chiefs this season. They have already won their division and will be playing in January. They were not a bad team.

    3) Arizona is good. Particularly on Defense. If the Niners win tonight, they still have a tough task in Arizona next week. To you peeps saying "the QB threw 4 picks, they suck", you might want to take a gander at the standings. The NFC West has THREE teams with 10 wins with a week to play. The LAST place team in the division could still go 8-8 AND still has a shot at the 1st pick in the draft. There is no shame in losing to Arizona. The only thing that was really damaged yesterday was the aura of invincibility in Seattle....but I CERTAINLY don't see them losing there twice in 2 weeks. No freakin way.


    Amazing that it takes a goddamn niner fan (no offense) to be the voice of reason in here. Thanks Marvin. I think most of us are fine, but we all tend to get a little emotional after a tough loss, especially at home. I've seen you have to deal with it over at the webzone, too. I think we'll be more than fine - BUT - do you think this puts a wee bit more pressure on the niners tonight? I mean, if they lose to ATL, that means that Arizona have a great shot at making the playoffs in the wildcard spot if they can beat you all next weekend. Just looking for your thoughts on that, and the reason I ask is because I really think that the pressure got to our Offense yesterday, but thankfully they have another chance to clinch #1 again next week.


    Not really. There was already pressure on them because this is the last game at Candlestick. They have 2 shots at securing their playoff spot. They also usually respond pretty well to these types of situations. That doesn't guarantee a win by any stretch because any team can beat you on any day. I just don't see the pressure getting to them.

    Arizona is a tougher game. If the Niners win tonight, the Niners won't know if Seattle has won yet when they are playing...so I'd expect the Niners to go all out for 2 weeks here.

    It doesn't matter though. I just can't see the Seahawks losing to the Rams. If they do though and lose a 3 game lead in 4 weeks....then they deserve to lose the division.
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  • if the Niners lose to Atlanta tonight they should be banned from the playoffs for 5 years.
    Thats how sickening of a loss it would be on the Sticks last night of relevancy.
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  • Thanks guys. Stranger things have and do indeed happen. Yesterday brought back the harsh lesson, that absolutely nothing is guaranteed in life or in football. I imagine that Pats fans - on both occasions losing to the Giants in the Superb Owl - felt pretty crushed. Especially that first one. Going into the game massive favorites, with literally everything seemingly going their way, and in truth they had a much better team than NY, but sometimes things just don't go the way you expect them to.

    On paper, SF should crush the dirty birds tonight, but the game isn't played on paper. While I expect a 9er victory, it would honestly not surprise me if they laid an egg and ATL walks out of there the victors, setting up a fantastic showdown in ARI next week.
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  • I don't expect it being a Niner fan and all but the Falcons do have a shot. This being in all honesty prob the last game at the stick brings a fair amount of pressure on the Niners so they could come out flat but I hope not :).
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  • No way the 49ers lose. Falcons are a steaming pile of dogshit.

    49ers D is a top 5 unit. Offensive line is studly -- and they actually have not one, but TWO legit #1 NFL targets (Davis/Crabtree) and a great #2 (Boldin)

    Besides that, the Falcons have no heart at all, they won't show up... the only game they showed up for recently was the Saints and they still had no chance.
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  • Many of us Seahawks fans didn't take Arizona seriously as a good team, many read headlines and think of what history has shown, the 58 - 0 drubbing was in many minds. We forget that they had a new coach and system when we played them, we also forget that as they got comfortable with it they began to chalk up wins in the division quietly as the Seahawks and 49ers were getting all the press. We forget that Palmer with a good supporting cast can be a serviceable QB.

    Now with the last week on the horizon we have three dogs in the hunt with a 4th nipping at all of our heals.

    I don't think as far as the NFC West any of us can take a division game for granted anymore. Take any one of these defenses and the other 28 teams in the league would cut off the arm of their GM to have them. Our offenses and special teams are the biggest difference between us now. That is scary based on the Rams picks coming up and the amount of picks the 49ers have, we seem to find diamonds in the rough and Arizona well they have different player assessment group and it will be interesting to see how they really operate going forward.

    Enjoy and take advantage this year, because next year this division could be flipped upside down easily. Thats no insult it's just how good it is and a blown call by any ref could cost a team a win or two and drop them to 4th instead of 1st.
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  • The Falcons are licking their chops looking to spoil someone's Christmas, I think they'll play harder than people expect; but I'll be pretty surprised if the 49ers lose tonight.
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  • What have the Falcons got to play for, spoilers and to make the last regular season game at Candlestick a loss, it's Monday Night also and we all kow weird shit happens then, teams get abnormally pumped up, they want to try to salvage some self respect on National TV. 49ers could be looking past them and get wrapped up in the Nostalgia.

    Like I said Stranger thngs have happened.
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  • I'm praying for the upset lol
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  • chris98251 wrote:What have the Falcons got to play for, spoilers and to make the last regular season game at Candlestick a loss, it's Monday Night also and we all kow weird shit happens then, teams get abnormally pumped up, they want to try to salvage some self respect on National TV. 49ers could be looking past them and get wrapped up in the Nostalgia.

    Like I said Stranger thngs have happened.


    Yeah, yesterday showed us that at this time of year, you can throw out the formbook. All it takes is a few plays to lose a game.
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  • A 9ers loss tonight might make my stomach stop hurting. And will put a smile back on my face. :(
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  • Any given Monday night. Go Atlanta.
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  • a 49er loss tonight would be the best xmas gift. We get homefield and they potentially dont even make the playoffs :)...PLEASE...if theres one thing I want this regular season....
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  • It would be sweet justice if they put up their billboard (in Fife, lol) and then cement our #1 seed tonight and then miss the playoffs next week in Arizona.

    If that happens, I think we need to redouble our efforts to raise money for the San Francisco Childrens Hospital. That and put up Kaepernick with his Dolphins hat on a billboard in Santa Clara. :)
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  • I will be surprised if the niners win by less than 24
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  • Chukarhawk wrote:The football gods owe us one or two.


    Gonna be difficult to collect on one of those tonight. This is the longest of longshots as far as NFL goes.
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  • I can't watch this slurpfest anymore. You wouldn't even know there any other franchises in the NFL if you watched this game. I didn't even see this much circlejerking when the Cowboys closed their stadium.

    I've never wanted to see a franchise have a decades-long period of sucking more than I do right now.
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  • Dirty birds play in em tough
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  • Like I said before, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Falcons won this game. Any given Sunday. And hopefully this lessens the blow of yesterday's game. At least the Cardinals are a playoff-caliber team who are playing lights out lately.
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  • I'm so excited... even IF the 49'er win... this first half is a more fun than any part of yesterdays game!!!
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  • Atlanta is playing BETTER
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  • So much for that. We got to do it ourselves.
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  • HoRneR wrote:I don't expect it being a Niner fan and all but the Falcons do have a shot. This being in all honesty prob the last game at the stick brings a fair amount of pressure on the Niners so they could come out flat but I hope not :).


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  • Well the Niners won....by the skin of their teeth (and don't believe the final score). After seeing the last two minutes, the Niner fans forever forfeit any claim that Seattle is a "luckier" team than they are.
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  • Going to be a fun 4 hours starting at 1:00pm Sunday. Niners will have their hands full with the Cards, Hawks will be in a slugfest with the Rams, Saints might be choking away their playoff berth and Panthers will be playing with a ton of pressure on them.
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  • Forgot to mention, that was a gift wrapped win. Atlanta had all the momentum and the ball just bounced SF's way. Could have been called PI also but wasn't. Not taking anything away from SF just pointing out some times that what it takes to win. Hawks have had some of that this year also, that's what it takes to win sometimes. No reason to apologize for it. A win is a win.
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  • Tonight's game was much more competitive than I thought it would be. That was a great onside kick recovery. Harry Douglas has been spotty since he had to step up his game IMO. I would have kept feeding Gonzalez in the middle or White on the edge, plus that Davis dude. Bowman made a great play after getting stoned on the blitz, to pop outside and get that deflection.

    Falcons played their butts off, they just need to get their defense better, replace Gonzalez and find a running back to go with Rodgers.
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  • irocdave wrote:Could have been called PI also but wasn't. Not taking anything away from SF just pointing out some times that what it takes to win. Hawks have had some of that this year also, that's what it takes to win sometimes. No reason to apologize for it. A win is a win.

    that was a flag????? are you joking? do you watch the seahawks play D?
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  • SoHo9erFan wrote:
    irocdave wrote:Could have been called PI also but wasn't. Not taking anything away from SF just pointing out some times that what it takes to win. Hawks have had some of that this year also, that's what it takes to win sometimes. No reason to apologize for it. A win is a win.

    that was a flag????? are you joking? do you watch the seahawks play D?


    Ya...and lucky bounce? Did they not see the onside kick? LOL. No worries. A win is a win.
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  • Marvin49 wrote:
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    irocdave wrote:Could have been called PI also but wasn't. Not taking anything away from SF just pointing out some times that what it takes to win. Hawks have had some of that this year also, that's what it takes to win sometimes. No reason to apologize for it. A win is a win.

    that was a flag????? are you joking? do you watch the seahawks play D?


    Ya...and lucky bounce? Did they not see the onside kick? LOL. No worries. A win is a win.


    Brooks had an unlucky bounce in the same way Buckner had an unlucky bounce. The luck part took place because you didn't get low enough like you should to touch the ball and just assumed it will follow the physics calculated in your head on the fly. So ya, a guy missed the ball due to a lucky bounce and not anything he did wrong.

    If you want any luck from last nights game it would be the INT itself. Brooks was just running by when it fell into his hands. Brooks then housed it like a man.

    ** Also Side Note** Do all Niner's fans put LOL in every post? You guys seem to laugh so much at your own humor it is sad to see. I mean seriously.. lots of laughing out loud to your own "jokes". Kinda lets you know the age bracket of all these "long time" fans.

    ** Double Edit** I stand corrected you do not use it as much as I had previously thought. You use it nowhere near the amount of time Popeye does.
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  • Brahn wrote:
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    irocdave wrote:Could have been called PI also but wasn't. Not taking anything away from SF just pointing out some times that what it takes to win. Hawks have had some of that this year also, that's what it takes to win sometimes. No reason to apologize for it. A win is a win.

    that was a flag????? are you joking? do you watch the seahawks play D?


    Ya...and lucky bounce? Did they not see the onside kick? LOL. No worries. A win is a win.


    Brooks had an unlucky bounce in the same way Buckner had an unlucky bounce. The luck part took place because you didn't get low enough like you should to touch the ball and just assumed it will follow the physics calculated in your head on the fly. So ya, a guy missed the ball due to a lucky bounce and not anything he did wrong.

    If you want any luck from last nights game it would be the INT itself. Brooks was just running by when it fell into his hands. Brooks then housed it like a man.

    ** Also Side Note** Do all Niner's fans put LOL in every post? You guys seem to laugh so much at your own humor it is sad to see. I mean seriously.. lots of laughing out loud to your own "jokes". Kinda lets you know the age bracket of all these "long time" fans.


    First, it was Bowman, not Brooks.

    Second, I was referring to the way the ball bounced up to Snelling and he was able to grab it with one hand and get two feet in. Are you seriously going to argue that the INT was all luck and the Onside kick was all skill?

    Third, LOL. - wrote that before your double edit :)

    Peeps on here talking about "lucky bounces" really makes me laugh considering the way the Seahawks have won several games late this year (Schaub-Sherman anyone?). To paint this game as "the Niners get the breaks" is laughable. Every good team get some lucky breaks and the 49ers have been on the wrong end of those breaks on many occasions this year. Hell...the flag on Whitner was ridiculous in THAT game.
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  • Marvin49 wrote:First, it was Bowman, not Brooks.

    Second, I was referring to the way the ball bounced up to Snelling and he was able to grab it with one hand and get two feet in. Are you seriously going to argue that the INT was all luck and the Onside kick was all skill?

    Third, LOL. - wrote that before your double edit :)

    Peeps on here talking about "lucky bounces" really makes me laugh considering the way the Seahawks have won several games late this year (Schaub-Sherman anyone?). To paint this game as "the Niners get the breaks" is laughable. Every good team get some lucky breaks and the 49ers have been on the wrong end of those breaks on many occasions this year. Hell...the flag on Whitner was ridiculous in THAT game.


    Corrected Bowman not Brooks.

    Every year there are lucky bounces I agree.

    Whitner's was a legal hit I agree.

    I never claimed the Niners get the breaks and no one else does, but in this instance I said the Niners got the break to win the game. Also never said it was all luck or a negative win in anyway or form, I said it was lucky he was running by at that exact moment *Then proceeded to house it like a man* Notice how I even mentioned how great the whole play was? Unlike some who felt the fumble in CAR caused by Thomas and Sherman was just all luck, with no skill involved. You seem to be the one wanting to fill in the blanks as negatives.

    Snelling put himself in a position to make the play on the bounce, Bowman put himself in a position to not make the play on the bounce. Two different efforts put forth.


    As far as Niner fans go I enjoy you Marvin, I just feel you put the spin on things a little to hard sometimes.
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  • Brahn wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:First, it was Bowman, not Brooks.

    Second, I was referring to the way the ball bounced up to Snelling and he was able to grab it with one hand and get two feet in. Are you seriously going to argue that the INT was all luck and the Onside kick was all skill?

    Third, LOL. - wrote that before your double edit :)

    Peeps on here talking about "lucky bounces" really makes me laugh considering the way the Seahawks have won several games late this year (Schaub-Sherman anyone?). To paint this game as "the Niners get the breaks" is laughable. Every good team get some lucky breaks and the 49ers have been on the wrong end of those breaks on many occasions this year. Hell...the flag on Whitner was ridiculous in THAT game.


    Corrected Bowman not Brooks.

    Every year there are lucky bounces I agree.

    Whitner's was a legal hit I agree.

    I never claimed the Niners get the breaks and no one else does, but in this instance I said the Niners got the break to win the game. Also never said it was all luck or a negative win in anyway or form, I said it was lucky he was running by at that exact moment *Then proceeded to house it like a man* Notice how I even mentioned how great the whole play was? Unlike some who felt the fumble in CAR caused by Thomas and Sherman was just all luck, with no skill involved. You seem to be the one wanting to fill in the blanks as negatives.

    Snelling put himself in a position to make the play on the bounce, Bowman put himself in a position to not make the play on the bounce. Two different efforts put forth.


    As far as Niner fans go I enjoy you Marvin, I just feel you put the spin on things a little to hard sometimes.


    No worries...my response was more to others than to you even though I quoted you. I bunch of peeps in here saying stuff like "they get all the breaks" etc.

    No question, it was a lucky bounce that got the ball into Navorros hands, but it was also an outstanding play by Reid to put a hit on Ryan and force that short throw, it was an outstanding play by Brock to recognize the route and break directly to the ball and prevent the catch, and it was an outstanding play by Bowman to first blitz the A Gap, realize he wasn't going anywhere, end his rush and run to the ball simply to be in place to take advantage of that lucky bounce.

    IE, good teams and players put themselves in a position to take advantage of "lucky" bounces. :)

    Seattle has done it several times this year. They themselves have been "lucky" at times, but inferior teams wouldn't have been in a position to take advantage of that Luck if they were less talented or didn't play as hard as they do.
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  • Yes we got a "break" and used it to our advantage, happens every Sunday, Monday night, and Thursday night in the NFL. I don't mind people saying we caught a break, I do mind when people say it was luck when it happens to a team other than their own.
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