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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:37 am
  • Browns and Vikings to win outright
    Falcons to cover
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:36 pm
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:51 pm
  • Ok, guess I'll play 'em all.

    [bts] Patriots, Falcons
    [upset] Saints, Steelers
    [cover] Dolphins, Chiefs, Cowboys, Titans, Broncos, Seahawks, Chargers, Eagles
    [win] Bengals, Lions
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:52 pm
  • Now isn't this some craziness. :thirishdrinkers:
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:56 pm
  • I've got some catching up to do, Diags. It's week 16; all or nothin' time, and I chose ALL! :)

    (Hopefully I'll rise like a phoenix, and not go down in flames.)
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:50 pm
  • Can we do a mix? And does this mean I have to Saturday to finalize my Captain Insano picks?
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:55 pm
  • KCHawkGirl wrote:Can we do a mix? And does this mean I have to Saturday to finalize my Captain Insano picks?


    You can do a mix, it just puts you in the second group of pickers that are picking favorites as well as underdogs. I would have lumped them into one group but wanted to keep the two separate.

    Yep, you can wait until Saturday night before putting in your bulk picks. If you could separate them like the others did, it helps me to just cut and paste your picks into my little text file.

    [bts] and [upset] for underdogs
    [cover] and [win] for favored
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:01 pm
  • Cool thanks for the clarification I will have them in by Friday to make it's reasonable for you.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:19 pm
  • OK here goes:

    Dogs to win outright: Patriots, Bears
    Dogs to cover: Jags, Colts

    Favs to cover: Broncos, Dolphins
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:33 pm
  • All to cover sir.
    Vikes
    Colts
    Bucs
    Jags
    Raiders
    Bears
    Falcons
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:25 pm
  • Win: Texans, Falcons, Cardinals

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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:45 am
  • colts, jags, bucs to cover.
    Pats, Skins, and Bears outright
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:00 pm
  • Bills win an ugly one, 12-10

    Colts win by 3

    Browns win by 10

    Washington Kirk Cousins surprises the Cowboys 35-38

    Saints eke one out

    Jaguars win by 1 point

    Falcons will keep it closer than expected. They lose 31 - 28
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:53 pm
  • Really, Ivotuk; you're going to make Diags look up whether each of those is cover, or spread, etc.? Lol.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:29 pm
  • OK lets go underdogs only

    Vikings – BTS
    Browns – upset
    Bears - upset
    Colts – bts
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:45 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:Really, Ivotuk; you're going to make Diags look up whether each of those is cover, or spread, etc.? Lol.


    Good looking out Roland. Tuk just got a little Mayor Burnside in him. "Handle it, Handle it!"

    ivotuk (7) - [upset] Bills, Colts, Browns, Washington, Saints, Jaguars
    [bts] Falcons

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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:52 pm
  • Packers now 1.5 pt favorites to win over Steelers.

    That is the final game that wasn't on the board.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:58 pm
  • mikeak wrote:OK lets go underdogs only

    Vikings – BTS
    Browns – upset
    Bears - upset
    Colts – bts


    Add Steelers as upset to get to fave games all underdogs
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:02 pm
  • Up to date selections - all spreads set. Green Bay now a 1.5 pt favorite at home

    Players Picks

    ---------- Who's the Man? -------

    DrDiags (4) - [upset] Vikings, Colts, Jaguars, Saints

    Scottemojo (4) - [bts] Jags
    [upset] Skins, Browns, Bills

    OKieHawk (6) - [bts] Vikings, Colts, Raiders, Falcons
    [upset] Jags, Browns

    aawolf (6) - [upset] Colts, Browns, Redskins
    [bts] Raiders, Falcons, Tampa Bay

    MANUNITED23 (3) - [upset] Vikings, Browns
    [bts] Falcons

    Seahawkfan80 (7) - [bts] Vikes, Colts, Bucs, Jags, Raiders, Bears, Falcons

    rsm650 (3) - [upset] Texans, Falcons, Cardinals

    davidonmi (6) - [bts] Colts, Jaguars, Bucs
    [upset] Patriots, Skins, Bears

    mikeak (5) - [bts] Vikings, Colts
    [upset] Browns, Bears, Steelers

    ivotuk (7) - [upset] Bills, Colts, Browns, Washington, Saints, Jaguars
    [bts] Falcons

    IcedHawk (7) - [upset]: Browns, Jags, Pats, Bears
    [bts]: Giants, Vikes, Cards


    SonicHawk (9): [upset] Bills, Browns, Steelers, Patriots, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Giants, Cardinals, Falcons


    ----- I need more Cowbell participants ------

    AbsolutNET (9) - [bts] Vikings, Cardinals, Falcons, Giants, Jags
    [upset] Washington, Bears
    [win] Steelers, Patriots

    Polaris (16) - [upset] Bills, Browns, Jaguars
    [bts] Vikings, Tampa Bay, Giants, Raiders
    [win] Chiefs, 9ers, Eagles
    [cover] Cowboys, Panthers, Broncos, Seahawks, Packers, Ravens

    RolandDeschain (14) - [bts] Patriots, Falcons
    [upset] Saints, Steelers
    [cover] Dolphins, Chiefs, Cowboys, Titans, Broncos, Seahawks, Chargers, Eagles
    [win] Bengals, Lions

    HFSD1 (6) - [upset] Patriots, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Colts
    [cover] Broncos, Dolphins


    KCHawkGirl (12) -
    [win]....Dolphins, Rams, Jets, Seahawks, Ravens, Broncos, San Francisco.
    [upset]..Jaguars
    [bts]....Giants, Colts, Bears, Raiders

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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:04 pm
  • Upset: Browns, Jags, Pats, Bears

    Beat the Spread: Giants, Vikes, Cards
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:44 pm
  • To win....Dolphins, Rams, Jets, Seahawks, Ravens, Jaguars, Broncos, San Francisco.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:49 pm
  • To bts...Giants and Colts.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:56 pm
  • To cover... Bears and Raiders and thus this week's version of Captain Insano's picks are done.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:38 am
  • KCHawkGirl,

    Using the original favorite/underdog/spread matrix from page 1, your picks boil down to this:


    KCHawkGirl (12) -
    [win]....Dolphins, Rams, Jets, Seahawks, Ravens, Broncos, San Francisco.
    [upset]..Jaguars
    [bts]....Giants, Colts, Bears, Raiders
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:00 am
  • Damn!I I forgot about the Panthers!! I pick them to win.If I can't add them I will roll with what I have.:)

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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:36 am
  • Underdog Wins:
    Bills
    Browns
    Steelers
    Patriots
    Bears

    Spread:
    Jags
    Giants
    Cardinals
    Falcons
    I enjoy ruining threads by making them about personal attacks and then commenting about how personal attacks make the other person's argument invalid.

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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:01 am
  • I hope you allow SonicHawk in the tournament. Even though he's worse at time management then myself.;)

    Come on Doc..I know you'll do right...(I really hope you do a Doc against the Spread deal from the start next year if you have time).
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:55 am
  • Players Picks

    ---------- Who's the Man? -------

    DrDiags (4) - [upset] Vikings, Colts, Jaguars, Saints

    Scottemojo (4) - [bts] Jags
    [upset] Skins, Browns, Bills

    OKieHawk (6) - [bts] Vikings, Colts, Raiders, Falcons
    [upset] Jags, Browns

    aawolf (6) - [upset] Colts, Browns, Redskins
    [bts] Raiders, Falcons, Tampa Bay

    MANUNITED23 (3) - [upset] Vikings, Browns
    [bts] Falcons

    Seahawkfan80 (7) - [bts] Vikes, Colts, Bucs, Jags, Raiders, Bears, Falcons

    rsm650 (3) - [upset] Texans, Falcons, Cardinals

    davidonmi (6) - [bts] Colts, Jaguars, Bucs
    [upset] Patriots, Skins, Bears

    mikeak (5) - [bts] Vikings, Colts
    [upset] Browns, Bears, Steelers

    ivotuk (7) - [upset] Bills, Colts, Browns, Washington, Saints, Jaguars
    [bts] Falcons

    IcedHawk (7) - [upset]: Browns, Jags, Pats, Bears
    [bts]: Giants, Vikes, Cards


    SonicHawk (9): [upset] Bills, Browns, Steelers, Patriots, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Giants, Cardinals, Falcons


    ----- I need more Cowbell participants ------

    AbsolutNET (9) - [bts] Vikings, Cardinals, Falcons, Giants, Jags
    [upset] Washington, Bears
    [win] Steelers, Patriots

    Polaris (16) - [upset] Bills, Browns, Jaguars
    [bts] Vikings, Tampa Bay, Giants, Raiders
    [win] Chiefs, 9ers, Eagles
    [cover] Cowboys, Panthers, Broncos, Seahawks, Packers, Ravens

    RolandDeschain (14) - [bts] Patriots, Falcons
    [upset] Saints, Steelers
    [cover] Dolphins, Chiefs, Cowboys, Titans, Broncos, Seahawks, Chargers, Eagles
    [win] Bengals, Lions

    HFSD1 (6) - [upset] Patriots, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Colts
    [cover] Broncos, Dolphins


    KCHawkGirl (12) -
    [win]....Dolphins, Rams, Jets, Seahawks, Ravens, Broncos, San Francisco.
    [upset]..Jaguars
    [bts]....Giants, Colts, Bears, Raiders

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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:13 pm
  • Players Picks

    ---------- Who's the Man? -------

    DrDiags (4) - [upset] Colts, Jaguars, Saints, Vikings

    Scottemojo (4) - [bts] Jags
    [upset] Browns, Skins, Bills

    AbsolutNET (9) - [bts] Vikings, Falcons, Jags, Cardinals, Giants,
    [upset] Washington, Steelers, Patriots Bears

    OKieHawk (6) - [bts] Vikings, Raiders, Colts, Falcons
    [upset] Jags, Browns

    aawolf (6) - [upset] Colts, Browns, Redskins
    [bts] Falcons, Raiders, Tampa Bay

    MANUNITED23 (3) - [upset] Vikings, Browns
    [bts] Falcons

    Seahawkfan80 (7) - [bts] Colts, Jags, Bucs, Vikes, Raiders, Bears, Falcons

    rsm650 (3) - [upset] Texans, Falcons, Cardinals

    davidonmi (6) - [bts] Colts, Jaguars, Bucs
    [upset] Patriots, Skins, Bears

    mikeak (5) - [bts] Vikings, Colts
    [upset] Browns, Bears, Steelers

    ivotuk (7) - [upset] Bills, Colts, Browns, Washington, Saints, Jaguars
    [bts] Falcons

    IcedHawk (7) - [upset]: Browns, Jags, Pats, Bears
    [bts]: Giants, Cards, Vikes,

    SonicHawk (9): [upset] Bills, Steelers, Patriots Browns, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Cardinals, Giants, Falcons



    ----- I need more Cowbell participants ------



    Polaris (16) - [upset] Bills, Browns, Jaguars
    [bts] Vikings, Tampa Bay, Raiders, Giants
    [win] Chiefs, 9ers, Eagles
    [cover] Cowboys, Seahawks, Packers, Ravens, Panthers, Broncos,

    RolandDeschain (14) - [bts] Patriots, Falcons
    [upset] Saints, Steelers
    [cover] Dolphins, Chiefs, Cowboys, Titans, Seahawks, Broncos, Chargers, Eagles
    [win] Bengals, Lions

    HFSD1 (6) - [upset] Patriots, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Colts
    [cover] Broncos, Dolphins

    KCHawkGirl (12) -
    [win]....Dolphins, Seahawks, Ravens, Rams, Jets, Broncos, San Francisco.
    [upset]..Jaguars
    [bts]....Giants, Colts, Bears, Raiders
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:19 pm
  • rsm650 (3) - [upset] Texans, Falcons, [upset] Cardinals

    I'll show myself out :sob_story:
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:22 pm
  • How about not changing things and leaving my name attached? Do me that favor please. Hate the whole "changed that for you" stuff.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:23 pm
  • drdiags wrote:
    How about not changing things and leaving my name attached? Do me that favor please. Hate the whole "changed that for you" stuff.


    Sorry I didn't catch that, I'm actually reeling about this loss!
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:28 pm
  • rsm650 wrote:
    drdiags wrote:
    How about not changing things and leaving my name attached? Do me that favor please. Hate the whole "changed that for you" stuff.


    Sorry I didn't catch that, I'm actually reeling about this loss!


    Cool. No problem, good call. Could see it coming but was hoping the team was past this type of stuff.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:31 pm
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    Come on Falcons!
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:18 pm
  • Ouch. Just like the Cards game, this week cannot end soon enough. The "I need more cowbell" folks are having a tough day though HFSD1 has a slight chance of finishing in the green.

    SonicHawk or AbsolutNET need to not blow it to Scottemojo. rsm650 still has a chance with the Falcons but 9ers still can get HFA throughout the playoffs so no way the Falcons pull off the upset.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:21 pm
  • Picking a favored to win or cover, the payoff is just not worth the penalty. I think you do better just hanging with bts/upset. Either that or I need to reduce the penalty or increase the reward for picking win/cover. Brutal.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:20 pm
  • And yet another horrible week of picks for me.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:47 pm
  • After Sunday Night:

    Players Picks

    ---------- Who's the Man? -------

    DrDiags (4) - [upset] Colts, Jaguars, Saints, Vikings

    Scottemojo (4) - [bts] Jags
    [upset] Browns, Skins, Bills

    AbsolutNET (9) - [bts] Vikings, Falcons, Jags, Cardinals, Giants,
    [upset] Washington, Bears, Steelers, Patriots

    OKieHawk (6) - [bts] Vikings, Raiders, Colts, Falcons
    [upset] Jags, Browns

    aawolf (6) - [upset] Colts, Browns, Redskins
    [bts] Falcons, Raiders, Tampa Bay

    MANUNITED23 (3) - [upset] Vikings, Browns
    [bts] Falcons

    Seahawkfan80 (7) - [bts] Colts, Jags, Bucs, Vikes, Raiders, Bears, Falcons

    rsm650 (3) - [upset] Texans, Falcons, Cardinals

    davidonmi (6) - [bts] Colts, Jaguars, Bucs
    [upset] Patriots, Skins, Bears

    mikeak (5) - [bts] Vikings, Colts
    [upset] Browns, Bears, Steelers

    ivotuk (7) - [upset] Bills, Colts, Browns, Washington, Saints, Jaguars
    [bts] Falcons

    IcedHawk (7) - [upset]: Browns, Jags, Bears, Pats,
    [bts]: Giants, Cards, Vikes,

    SonicHawk (9): [upset] Bills, Steelers, Patriots Browns, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Cardinals, Giants, Falcons



    ----- I need more Cowbell participants ------



    Polaris (16) - [upset] Bills, Browns, Jaguars
    [bts] Vikings, Tampa Bay, Raiders, Giants
    [win] Chiefs, 9ers, Eagles
    [cover] Cowboys, Seahawks, Packers, Ravens, Panthers, Broncos,

    RolandDeschain (14) - [bts] Patriots, Falcons
    [upset] Saints, Steelers
    [cover] Dolphins, Chiefs, Cowboys, Titans, Seahawks, Broncos, Chargers, Eagles
    [win] Bengals, Lions

    HFSD1 (6) - [upset] Patriots, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Colts
    [cover] Broncos, Dolphins

    KCHawkGirl (12) -
    [win]....Dolphins, Seahawks, Ravens, Rams, Jets, Broncos, 9ers
    [upset]..Jaguars
    [bts]....Giants, Colts, Bears, Raiders
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:37 pm
  • COME ON FALCONS.
    I enjoy ruining threads by making them about personal attacks and then commenting about how personal attacks make the other person's argument invalid.

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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:22 pm
  • With MNF results as well:

    Players Picks

    ---------- Who's the Man? -------

    DrDiags (4) - [upset] Colts, Jaguars, Saints, Vikings

    Scottemojo (4) - [bts] Jags
    [upset] Browns, Skins, Bills

    AbsolutNET (9) - [bts] Vikings, Falcons, Jags, Cardinals, Giants,
    [upset] Washington, Bears, Steelers, Patriots

    OKieHawk (6) - [bts] Vikings, Raiders, Colts, Falcons
    [upset] Jags, Browns

    aawolf (6) - [upset] Colts, Browns, Redskins
    [bts] Falcons, Raiders, Tampa Bay

    MANUNITED23 (3) - [upset] Vikings, Browns
    [bts] Falcons

    Seahawkfan80 (7) - [bts] Colts, Jags, Falcons Bucs, Vikes, Raiders, Bears,

    rsm650 (3) - [upset] Texans,Falcons, Cardinals

    davidonmi (6) - [bts] Colts, Jaguars, Bucs
    [upset] Patriots, Skins, Bears

    mikeak (5) - [bts] Vikings, Colts
    [upset] Browns, Bears, Steelers

    ivotuk (7) - [upset] Bills, Colts, Browns, Washington, Saints, Jaguars
    [bts] Falcons

    IcedHawk (7) - [upset]: Browns, Jags, Bears, Pats,
    [bts]: Giants, Cards, Vikes,

    SonicHawk (9): [upset] Bills, Steelers, Patriots Browns, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Cardinals, Giants, Falcons



    ----- I need more Cowbell participants ------



    Polaris (16) - [upset] Bills, Browns, Jaguars
    [bts] Vikings, Tampa Bay, Raiders, Giants
    [win] Chiefs, 9ers, Eagles
    [cover] Cowboys, Seahawks, Packers, Ravens, Panthers, Broncos,

    RolandDeschain (14) - [bts] Patriots, Falcons
    [upset] Saints, Steelers
    [cover] Dolphins, Chiefs, Cowboys, Titans, Seahawks, Broncos, Chargers, Eagles
    [win] Bengals, Lions

    HFSD1 (6) - [upset] Patriots, Bears
    [bts] Jags, Colts
    [cover] Broncos, Dolphins

    KCHawkGirl (12) -
    [win]....Dolphins, Seahawks, Ravens, Rams, Jets, Broncos, 9ers
    [upset]..Jaguars
    [bts]....Giants, Colts, Bears, Raiders
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:59 pm
  • This week's "Who's the man!":

    .NET handicapper# of PicksBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
    SonicHawk940324.00


    This week's "I need more cowbell!":

    .NET handicapper# of PicksFavored WonFavored LostCover WonCover LostBeat SpreadLost SpreadUpset WonUpset MissedRD Factor
    hawksfansinceday16001120110.38
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    Leon Washington 2010-2012 Red Bryant 2008-2013 Golden Tate 2010-2013 Breno Giacomini 2011-2013 - Gone but not forgotten.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:02 pm
  • Check my math, I do it all in my head and could be getting confused with all the sliding scale grading.
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Re: Week 16 - Pick your poison
Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:32 am
  • YAY!
    I enjoy ruining threads by making them about personal attacks and then commenting about how personal attacks make the other person's argument invalid.

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