LotsOfLuck wrote: DavidSeven wrote:
LotsOfLuck wrote:BTW, Luck got his yards against a far superior defense than Wilson was facing.
That's cool. Wilson was only playing without his starting LT, RT, C, and TE, but I guess that doesn't matter. None of his receivers are on Reggie Wayne's level either. He was also playing on the road. But yeah, just ignore all that and manipulate the narrative how you want.
And Luck was without his starting TE (Allen) and working with his 3rd starting RB (Ballard, Bradshaw, Richardson) of the season in only the fifth game. We could sit here and do this all day.
Like I said earlier, after having gone through close to a decade of Manning/Brady talk, that's all silly debates like this come down to. People looking at selective items and pretending like it has more merit than other selective items that don't fit their agenda. But that's what ESPN has told us sports talk should look like so that how most of us engage in it anymore.
Actually, you can't because its a pretty dumb argument.
1) Ballard, Bradshaw, Richardson, even Donald Brown have been starting RBs in their careers.
You guys traded a 1st round pick for Richardson, who was the best RB talent of his draft.
2. Even without Allen, the team has Colby Fleener. Who been with Luck since Stanford.
Also the drop of from Allen to Fleener isn't the same from Miller, a pro bowler and one of, if not the best blocking TEs in the NFL to Willson, a 5th round rookie TE who was the 2nd TE taken from his school.
Don't act like missing 4/6 of your best O-Line group doesn't affect QB play. Let's not forget that this was our 2nd week of back to back 10 am starts.
If this game was at the Clink, Luck doesn't reach 150 yards and Wilson would have destroyed your defense for 450 total yards and like 4 TDs.
The problem here is the argument between Luck or Wilson and who is better. It is simply Colts fans dismissing the fact one player was a 1st round pick. One player is a 3rd round pick. One player has Reggie Wayne. The other player has Sidney Rice. One player is 6-4, 240 and runs a 4.6 40. The other player is 5-10, 205 with 4.5 speed. One player was handed the starting position in 2012. The other one had to earn it beating out not 1 but 2 other challengers.
One player has makes between 5-6 million. The other makes 500, 000-600,000 thousand.
Luck is doing exactly what he should be doing.
Wilson had defied every logical doubts over his short-comings and has earned everything given to him.
Wilson is better in every statistical category compared to Luck except for Passing Yardage and Turnovers.
Tell me again not who is better or will be better but who has been more amazing.
If you answer anything other than Wilson, you're lying to yourself.
Luck will be a great QB and he is already damn good. But most QBs, extremely talented or not, would have crumbled in Wilson's shoes. Even Luck.
Luck is a QB that comes along once or twice a decade. Wilson isn't born, he is created with hardwork, dedication, and the ability to shrug off doubts about his size to be a NFL QB.
In the 2012 draft who would have thought the 5'10 Wilson would go on to have the most success from that class. Everyone except for Russell Wilson, John Gruden, and John Schnieder probably. Wilson was told he wouldn't make it in the NFL, he even had that doubt when he chose to play baseball before going to Wisconsin.
Yet, here is Wilson, a franchise QB, on one of the best teams in the NFL. A QB who has outplayed the top two picks of the 2012 draft. A QB who was a 3rd round pick, whose meteoric rise led to the Seahawks netting a 5th round pick and a 7th round pick by trading their other QBs.
Wilson's overall net value + statistics trumps anything Luck or RG3 has done so far, if ever just so slightly. If you can't see that, then you're blind.