Eric Wood believes hit on Manuel was intended to injure him

csjwilkinson · Oct 4, 2013

Many of you will have seen the hit that is being talked about in the media today. It does look as though it was a clean hit, and even some Bills players have come out and said so. One player out in Buffalo didn't like ith though. Eric Wood believes that the Browns players were deliberatley trying to injure their QB.
http://www.bubblews.com/news/1268618-br ... yer-injury

Basis4day · Oct 4, 2013

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... bills-loss

Clip of hit attached.

-The Glove- · Oct 4, 2013

That's BS. Go up high and he would've been flagged. You would QB's would learn from RG3.Slide or get out of bounds. On that play, Manuel had the 1st down and then some. He needed to just step out of bounds.

UK_Seahawk · Oct 4, 2013

-The Glove-":16nsnm5r said:
That's BS. Go up high and he would've been flagged. You would QB's would learn from RG3.Slide or get out of bounds. On that play, Manuel had the 1st down and then some. He needed to just step out of bounds.

This. Why give him a chance to hurt you?

RolandDeschain · Oct 4, 2013

DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

drdiags · Oct 4, 2013

I thought Wood was mad at how the Browns acted after Manuel was hurt? Another story had Wood saying he was fine with the hit, it was the smack talk Ward was saying afterwards that had him call the Browns "classless".

The injury is on Manuel for trying to take just that extra little bit instead of stepping out of bounds after he got the first down by 3 yds.

-The Glove- · Oct 4, 2013

After reading quotes from Wood I understand where he's coming from. He said TJ Ward yelled at Kiko (college teammates), "Hey Kiko, I told you we were gonna get him!" Now thats messed up. And also Tashaun Gilson, who made the tackle, celebrated after the hit. Looks odd since EJ got the 1st down and more.

twisted_steel2 · Oct 4, 2013

Yea, the taunting thing, standing over him yelling while he's in pain grasping his knee is really lame.

But looked like a normal hit to me, not intentional.

The Radish · Oct 4, 2013

I agree, I happened to be watching the game at that point and didn't even think he got hit that hard.

It was plainly a clean hit, I didn't hear any of the comments around the teams on TV tho.

:les:

Carmon1274 · Oct 4, 2013

RolandDeschain":2pfqwwkg said:
DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

-The Glove- · Oct 4, 2013

Carmon1274":3uqk33li said:
RolandDeschain":3uqk33li said:

DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

Click to expand...

I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

He's faster in a straight line...barely...but we're talking about smart, effective running. He knows when to slide and when to go out of bounds. He never takes unnecessary huge hits. Plus he's a much better scrambler then Kaep.

RolandDeschain · Oct 4, 2013

Carmon1274":3hh75z1z said:
I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

He's not even close to having the scrambling ability of Wilson in the backfield, and Kaepernick does not protect himself like Wilson does. Disagree? Give some evidence.

Carmon1274 · Oct 4, 2013

RolandDeschain":dv492pip said:
Carmon1274":dv492pip said:

I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

Click to expand...

He's not even close to having the scrambling ability of Wilson in the backfield, and Kaepernick does not protect himself like Wilson does. Disagree? Give some evidence.

Are you talking about running out of the pocket to give some time, or are you talking about running and getting a first down and more?

Carmon1274 · Oct 4, 2013

-The Glove-":1kn8nncd said:
Carmon1274":1kn8nncd said:

RolandDeschain":1kn8nncd said:

DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

Click to expand...

I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

Click to expand...

He's faster in a straight line...barely...but we're talking about smart, effective running. He knows when to slide and when to go out of bounds. He never takes unnecessary huge hits. Plus he's a much better scrambler then Kaep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6zwy7TO5So

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jssnnWrD6lk

Is this a straight line?

HawkWow · Oct 4, 2013

Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

HawkWow · Oct 4, 2013

BTW, I thought the hit was clean and know that Tashaun Gilson is a punk. I hope someone does some celebrating over his crumpled body sooner than later. He will be hearing from the league today.

Carmon1274 · Oct 4, 2013

I agree that RW runs out of pocket efficent, and its hard for the D to tackle him because he's so small and fast.

So I'd say RW runs better out of the pocket, trying to give time.
Kap runs faster and gain more yards.

Here's a clip of RW running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhyhLCTrHQg

Now I'd say both QB's don't run effectively because they both get HIT a lot. If you watch the clip of RW running, you will see many hits that he took.

-The Glove- · Oct 4, 2013

Carmon1274":3nampp7c said:
-The Glove-":3nampp7c said:

Carmon1274":3nampp7c said:

RolandDeschain":3nampp7c said:

DangeRuss should hold a QB running camp and invite the other 31 starting QBs in the league to it during this upcoming offseason. Nobody runs with a better (or even equal) combination of safety and effectiveness than our own beloved #3.

Click to expand...

I think Kapernick is the best runner of all QB's. + I think he's faster than RW.

Click to expand...

He's faster in a straight line...barely...but we're talking about smart, effective running. He knows when to slide and when to go out of bounds. He never takes unnecessary huge hits. Plus he's a much better scrambler then Kaep.

Click to expand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6zwy7TO5So

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jssnnWrD6lk

Is this a straight line?

Are they racing? RW is a better scrambler. The Benny Hill play against the Niners last year was proof and the Texans game was proof. No other QB can evade pressure like that. And yes that has a lot to do with his size.

Carmon1274 · Oct 4, 2013

HawkWow":8petaie2 said:
Engaged in a similar argument with a 9er bud, I went back and looked at a bunch of film on Kaep. My bro was correct. I was amazed at how infrequently Kaep actually gets hit. Disappointed, as well.

He is not the cerebral scrambler RW is, but his longer legs allows him to cover much more ground, obviously in a shorter space of time. BUT...those same long legs make him much more vulnerable. Just because he's been the Floyd Mayweather of QBs (thus far), doesn't mean that trend will last forever. Especially with desperation already setting in. ; )

Kap is faster than most LBs/DE's.

Thats why he ran for almost 200 yards in Playoffs against the Packers. But I believe the Packers realize that he runs by the left and right sideline, so in the first 49ers game he only rushed for 30 yards. And thats where Boldin and VD beat the Pack.

I think you need a S with a 4.2 or 4.3 that can chase after him.

Carmon1274 · Oct 4, 2013

@ The Glove I already said that RW is better getting out of the pocket and buying time. But Kap is faster running for a TD in the endzone.

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