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  • HansGruber wrote:Can we please get a moderator to start cleaning up the Niner trash?

    I'm seriously sick of these Niner fans. They've been hanging around all offseason, then we stomp them and they disappear for a few weeks, only to show up again and start trolling the place every time they beat some second-rate college scrub team. I thought this was a Seahawks forum. What's with all the rampant Niner fans??


    If you wouldn't constantly indulge them, they wouldn't bother you. Nearly 3 full pages in and the OP hasn't even responded, it's just a big circle jerk. Everyone keeps taking the bait.
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  • From now on I'm going to Doyla Hargrove any thread like this.
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  • As you pointed out, this is the "NFL Nation" forum where we talk about teams other than the Seahawks. Is it really that surprising that the team we are most interested in besides our own is the team most likely to challenge us for home field advantage in the playoffs and our chief division rival? Obviously we are going to talk about what happens with the 49ers. You acting like there is something wrong with that is ridiculous
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  • Missing_Clink wrote:As you pointed out, this is the "NFL Nation" forum where we talk about teams other than the Seahawks. Is it really that surprising that the team we are most interested in besides our own is the team most likely to challenge us for home field advantage in the playoffs and our chief division rival? Obviously we are going to talk about what happens with the 49ers. You acting like there is something wrong with that is ridiculous


    This is how it is everywhere not just here. Seahawks niners and rams fans are all at each others throats all over the internet. I don't think anyone should be upset that there is a lot of attention being paid to it. It just means there is a lot on the line for everyone.
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  • RichNhansom wrote:Not a bad post Popeye but I think it is reaching a little. It's kind of like saying once we win a super bowl the 12th man will quiet down at the Clink. It's not going to change.


    Ah, no, sorry, wasn't trying to imply that at all. The thing at the CLink is pretty special and I think the Hawks would have to really suck for multiple seasons in a row for that atmosphere to die down. The atmosphere there is really its own animal, IMO.


    RichNhansom wrote:To me I even see the schedule this year as designed specifically to help the Niners. There is no reason to move them out of so many 10am games. Your game against the Titans isn't even a nationally televised game and should be a 10am start but for whatever reason the NFL thought they should move it to a 1pm start and that is after letting the Seahawks play a round two playoff game at 10am last year. It could just be paranoia but it sure has all the ingredients of a fix. Especially when you see them do it two years in a row. Consider the only team you could beat last year at 10am was the jets before you try and dismiss the logic.


    Just for frame of reference, when the schedule came out and 9ers fans saw that in their first five games they got scheduled against four playoff teams and the Rams at home on a short week some of them insisted that the fix was in and the NFL was trying to get the 9ers off to a slow start and just give the division away to the media darling Seahawks. Sounds kinda silly? I agree.

    As I said to 9ers fans who made this claim, why would the league give a sh!t who wins the NFC West? If it's about money, remember, this is the same league that has been making money hand over fist and hasn't been able to get a team into the second biggest market in the United States (L.A.) for going on 15 years now. I don't think they're the criminal masterminds you're implying they might be. :)
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  • Rivalries are an interesting thing.

    The NFC west traditionally has not been a very hardcore rivalry outside SF/LA (and even early year St. Louis). The Falcons/Saints was a bit of a rivalry both NFC West and now NFC South.

    I'll acknowledge the Seahawks as a 49er rival for sure, although I wouldn't put them as most hated 49er opponent. I definitely have not enjoyed losing to them the last two games, but to their credit I've seen a lot worse losing to other teams and fanbases.

    List of hatred:

    1) N.Y.F.G
    2) Ravens
    3) Saints
    4) Packers

    Cowboys & Steelers used to be high on the list but fell off for obvious reasons.

    What these teams have in common are multiple playoff knockouts over the years (except Saints who just happened to be obnoxious in pre-game and defeat), with the fans pouring salt on the wounds.

    I can say that a good # of fans on this forum deserve a healthy dose of respect just for their willingness to welcome opposing non-troll fans on this board. You will not see much of that elsewhere. And the hatred is knee deep for 49ers in Giant land....you'd think they lost the '90 and '11 NFC Championship games. I would root for Seattle over NYG this season if it weren't for the division race.

    Ravens are an obnoxious team, although a bit better now that some a***holes have left. Losing the super bowl to them really sucked.....we could have finally given Cincinnati or Houston a Lombardi and could have been at peace with the world, but instead it sucks.

    In a weird way a Niner fan has to respect and somewhat like Seattle simply for reminding us of how we were viewed just two years ago in the national media. They play the right kind of football and have a lot of unsung heroes.

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  • I understand what your saying Popeye but the league doesn't dictate who or even where we play only when and what time. As a Niner fan considering Cowboy and Gore's age and how tired your defense was at the end of last season I would think you would want your toughest games early.

    The Niners are currently one of the leagues most profitable and marketable franchises so there is a financial benefit of seeing them maintain success. I don't think you need to be a criminal mastermind to tweak a schedule but you night be naive if you believe it is not done. They could easily go lotto style if the finances didn't matter but they don't because they want to maximize profit. Why do you think the games with the highest viewing are nationally televised or flexed?

    You become a billion dollar corp by maximizing profit.

    You can minimize it if you like but you cannot ignore it. It is to odd that it is happening in back to back years when we are a serious threat to dethrone the cash cow.
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  • I can't speak for the other Seahawk fans, but I recall the disrespect that Larry Grant displayed towards our team and fans during their LAST victory over the Seahawks way back in 2011. AKA the skittles incident and the lame youtube video.
    Sea for yourself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xn1IFPdKN8) and enjoy, because it ain't gonna happen again for a long time. Maybe that's why I dislike your team so much.....right now. I'll get over it though, after the Seahawks beat the the forty-whiners AGAIN later this year.
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  • JetcityHawk wrote:I can't speak for the other Seahawk fans, but I recall the disrespect that Larry Grant displayed towards our team and fans during their LAST victory over the Seahawks way back in 2011. AKA the skittles incident and the lame youtube video.
    Sea for yourself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xn1IFPdKN8) and enjoy, because it ain't gonna happen again for a long time. Maybe that's why I dislike your team so much.....right now. I'll get over it though, after the Seahawks beat the the forty-whiners AGAIN later this year.


    That video put me on an acid trip. What the heck was the point of it I wonder? I did chuckle at his credits "12th man - as in nowhere to be found". To the victor goes the spoils.
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  • It's the cool factor.

    Aside from their unwavering charisma, both your QB and coach remind me of the cool kids that use to skip school and smoke cigarettes behind the pole vault mat. They're cool like that.
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  • MagHawk wrote:
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    925NinersFan wrote:I don't come here too often, but when I do...


    It's after the 49ers manage to win a game.

    That's spot on , LOL! :th2thumbs:



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  • Popeyejones wrote:
    bigtrain21 wrote:This is undeniable proof. The Rams are apparently their biggest rival and all they can think about after beating their biggest rival is the Seahawks.


    :lol:

    Also worth checking out the "What do you make of the 49ers' 35-11 win at St. Louis on Thursday night?" poll on ESPN. The options are "49ers are back" and "Rams are Bad."

    So far 300 people from Missouri have been motivated to vote compared to 1,100 from Washington (with roughly the same population in both states). The only states with more votes are California (3x more votes but 6x more people in the state) and Texas (1.5X the votes but 4X the number of people in the state). Missouri is the only state of 50 that has a lower % of people saying that the 9ers are good.

    Thinking this might not be a one way thing. ;)

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/ ... isco-49ers


    What an idiot argument to make. Seriously, what an incredibly stupid argument.

    What time zone is St. Louis in, what time was it in Missouri, hmm. Half the fans in that state was asleep by the 4th QTR , the other half were drunk and miserable.

    As opposed to the West Coast where the Seahawks reside, it was barely 10 o' clock.

    So if you're going to make a point, use some 'melon farming' logic.

    And 2ndly to point how dumb your logic is... why would any Rams fan make that choice anyway... RAMs Fan: let's see I either have to choose that our biggest rival is good or my team sucks ass.

    Seahawks fans can vote because ITS NOT THAT PERSONAL...most of us invested in this game because we knew one divisional rival was going to lose. And if you actually watched the game how can you lie about what we saw... so thus by voting for the Rams just suck option, which they do horrendously, doesn't mean the 49ers are good, which they aren't, the dominated a weaker team much like the Seahawks dominated the JAGS.

    What do you expect? What do you want from us?

    Good for you 49ers, you're such a great team, I mean pat yourselves on the backs, you just raped a team that just got raped much worse the week prior to the Cowboys.

    Yeah, that's the same as 49er fans on National TV, chanting "Seahawks suck" when they've should have said " Go 49ers" OR "L.A. Rams"

    There was a time when most Seahawks fans reveled the 49ers and like those team. Now, F your rings. F the hypocrisy of your fanbase, F the hypocrisy of your coach, F your team... you are all entitled idiots, douchebags, and jerks. Remember, who started all this back and forth between us.
    It was the 49er fans "we have it better than you" entitlement and snobbery.

    By the time we beat you in Candlestick, the Seahawks wouldn't need to care, because Niner Nation will irrelevent.
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  • Pandion Haliaetus wrote:
    Popeyejones wrote:
    bigtrain21 wrote:This is undeniable proof. The Rams are apparently their biggest rival and all they can think about after beating their biggest rival is the Seahawks.


    :lol:

    Also worth checking out the "What do you make of the 49ers' 35-11 win at St. Louis on Thursday night?" poll on ESPN. The options are "49ers are back" and "Rams are Bad."

    So far 300 people from Missouri have been motivated to vote compared to 1,100 from Washington (with roughly the same population in both states). The only states with more votes are California (3x more votes but 6x more people in the state) and Texas (1.5X the votes but 4X the number of people in the state). Missouri is the only state of 50 that has a lower % of people saying that the 9ers are good.

    Thinking this might not be a one way thing. ;)

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/ ... isco-49ers


    What an idiot argument to make. Seriously, what an incredibly stupid argument.

    What time zone is St. Louis in, what time was it in Missouri, hmm. Half the fans in that state was asleep by the 4th QTR , the other half were drunk and miserable.

    As opposed to the West Coast where the Seahawks reside, it was barely 10 o' clock.

    So if you're going to make a point, use some 'melon farming' logic.

    And 2ndly to point how dumb your logic is... why would any Rams fan make that choice anyway... RAMs Fan: let's see I either have to choose that our biggest rival is good or my team sucks ass.

    Seahawks fans can vote because ITS NOT THAT PERSONAL...most of us invested in this game because we knew one divisional rival was going to lose. And if you actually watched the game how can you lie about what we saw... so thus by voting for the Rams just suck option, which they do horrendously, doesn't mean the 49ers are good, which they aren't, the dominated a weaker team much like the Seahawks dominated the JAGS.

    What do you expect? What do you want from us?

    Good for you 49ers, you're such a great team, I mean pat yourselves on the backs, you just raped a team that just got raped much worse the week prior to the Cowboys.

    Yeah, that's the same as 49er fans on National TV, chanting "Seahawks suck" when they've should have said " Go 49ers" OR "L.A. Rams"

    There was a time when most Seahawks fans reveled the 49ers and like those team. Now, F your rings. F the hypocrisy of your fanbase, F the hypocrisy of your coach, F your team... you are all entitled idiots, douchebags, and jerks. Remember, who started all this back and forth between us.
    It was the 49er fans "we have it better than you" entitlement and snobbery.

    By the time we beat you in Candlestick, the Seahawks wouldn't need to care, because Niner Nation will irrelevent.


    You realize that he's saying he doesn't buy that the rivalry is one-way, right? He's disagreeing with the OP. I'm not sure what this holier-than-thou rant is actually aimed at here.
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  • Pandion Haliaetus wrote:
    Popeyejones wrote:
    bigtrain21 wrote:This is undeniable proof. The Rams are apparently their biggest rival and all they can think about after beating their biggest rival is the Seahawks.


    :lol:

    Also worth checking out the "What do you make of the 49ers' 35-11 win at St. Louis on Thursday night?" poll on ESPN. The options are "49ers are back" and "Rams are Bad."

    So far 300 people from Missouri have been motivated to vote compared to 1,100 from Washington (with roughly the same population in both states). The only states with more votes are California (3x more votes but 6x more people in the state) and Texas (1.5X the votes but 4X the number of people in the state). Missouri is the only state of 50 that has a lower % of people saying that the 9ers are good.

    Thinking this might not be a one way thing. ;)

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/ ... isco-49ers


    What an idiot argument to make. Seriously, what an incredibly stupid argument.

    What time zone is St. Louis in, what time was it in Missouri, hmm. Half the fans in that state was asleep by the 4th QTR , the other half were drunk and miserable.

    As opposed to the West Coast where the Seahawks reside, it was barely 10 o' clock.

    So if you're going to make a point, use some 'melon farming' logic.

    And 2ndly to point how dumb your logic is... why would any Rams fan make that choice anyway... RAMs Fan: let's see I either have to choose that our biggest rival is good or my team sucks ass.

    Seahawks fans can vote because ITS NOT THAT PERSONAL...most of us invested in this game because we knew one divisional rival was going to lose. And if you actually watched the game how can you lie about what we saw... so thus by voting for the Rams just suck option, which they do horrendously, doesn't mean the 49ers are good, which they aren't, the dominated a weaker team much like the Seahawks dominated the JAGS.

    What do you expect? What do you want from us?

    Good for you 49ers, you're such a great team, I mean pat yourselves on the backs, you just raped a team that just got raped much worse the week prior to the Cowboys.

    Yeah, that's the same as 49er fans on National TV, chanting "Seahawks suck" when they've should have said " Go 49ers" OR "L.A. Rams"

    There was a time when most Seahawks fans reveled the 49ers and like those team. Now, F your rings. F the hypocrisy of your fanbase, F the hypocrisy of your coach, F your team... you are all entitled idiots, douchebags, and jerks. Remember, who started all this back and forth between us.
    It was the 49er fans "we have it better than you" entitlement and snobbery.

    By the time we beat you in Candlestick, the Seahawks wouldn't need to care, because Niner Nation will irrelevent.

    Well said! Bravo! :th2thumbs:
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  • jkitsune wrote:
    Pandion Haliaetus wrote:
    Popeyejones wrote:
    bigtrain21 wrote:This is undeniable proof. The Rams are apparently their biggest rival and all they can think about after beating their biggest rival is the Seahawks.


    :lol:

    Also worth checking out the "What do you make of the 49ers' 35-11 win at St. Louis on Thursday night?" poll on ESPN. The options are "49ers are back" and "Rams are Bad."

    So far 300 people from Missouri have been motivated to vote compared to 1,100 from Washington (with roughly the same population in both states). The only states with more votes are California (3x more votes but 6x more people in the state) and Texas (1.5X the votes but 4X the number of people in the state). Missouri is the only state of 50 that has a lower % of people saying that the 9ers are good.

    Thinking this might not be a one way thing. ;)

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/ ... isco-49ers


    What an idiot argument to make. Seriously, what an incredibly stupid argument.

    What time zone is St. Louis in, what time was it in Missouri, hmm. Half the fans in that state was asleep by the 4th QTR , the other half were drunk and miserable.

    As opposed to the West Coast where the Seahawks reside, it was barely 10 o' clock.

    So if you're going to make a point, use some 'melon farming' logic.

    And 2ndly to point how dumb your logic is... why would any Rams fan make that choice anyway... RAMs Fan: let's see I either have to choose that our biggest rival is good or my team sucks ass.

    Seahawks fans can vote because ITS NOT THAT PERSONAL...most of us invested in this game because we knew one divisional rival was going to lose. And if you actually watched the game how can you lie about what we saw... so thus by voting for the Rams just suck option, which they do horrendously, doesn't mean the 49ers are good, which they aren't, the dominated a weaker team much like the Seahawks dominated the JAGS.

    What do you expect? What do you want from us?

    Good for you 49ers, you're such a great team, I mean pat yourselves on the backs, you just raped a team that just got raped much worse the week prior to the Cowboys.

    Yeah, that's the same as 49er fans on National TV, chanting "Seahawks suck" when they've should have said " Go 49ers" OR "L.A. Rams"

    There was a time when most Seahawks fans reveled the 49ers and like those team. Now, F your rings. F the hypocrisy of your fanbase, F the hypocrisy of your coach, F your team... you are all entitled idiots, douchebags, and jerks. Remember, who started all this back and forth between us.
    It was the 49er fans "we have it better than you" entitlement and snobbery.

    By the time we beat you in Candlestick, the Seahawks wouldn't need to care, because Niner Nation will irrelevent.


    You realize that he's saying he doesn't buy that the rivalry is one-way, right? He's disagreeing with the OP. I'm not sure what this holier-than-thou rant is actually aimed at here.


    First, it was merely aimed it his poor logic and quote unquote proof and example. Ofcourse, there were more votes on the West Coast because it was 10 pm to 11 pm. Ofcourse their were hardly an Rams votes: A, why would any rams fan choose to answer that question and B, it was 1-2 a.m. in Missouri. Logic.

    Use a better argument to make your case is my point.

    And honestly sure there is a rivalry because its a divisional opponent but other that much of the war going on between the fans is because Niner Nations lack of class towards a young and inexperienced Seahawks team ever since the 2011 and their "we have better than you" hardouche led entitlement and constantly throwing rings in our faces like its 1989.

    the fact is if 49ers handled their meteoric rise with more tact and humility Seahawk fans would show more respect for their fans and franchise.

    49ers and their fans deserve every last drop of sh!t we dish out to them.

    Also, a rivalry would actually exist if they knew how to be competitive and not barely beat us while our team wasn't in injury riddle rebuild mode like it was in 2011 or younger, less experienced, with rookies at key positions like it was in the first game of 2012.
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  • I don't know. I wish we would quit talking about them so people like you would go away.
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  • So a niner troll comes in, pulls the pin and tosses the troll nade then runs. Did I miss something? Why respond to this post? If your really in to bashing the 49'rs go search their own forums before halftime of the Rams game. They were ready to eat each other. Try the game day thread, great reading. Funny how these POS trolls rebound and we react. DONT FEED THE TROLLS.
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  • Wow. For those that don't visit the whiners forums often.. Whiners fans are hoping for the hawks to beat them up ( like the hawks did to the whines) so they have a chance next weekend at home. Pathetic.
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  • irocdave wrote:Wow. For those that don't visit the whiners forums often.. Whiners fans are hoping for the hawks to beat them up ( like the hawks did to the whines) so they have a chance next weekend at home. Pathetic.


    They have no chance. Seattle gave the NFL the blueprint. It's not our fault the Rams SUCK.

    Texans will rebound and destroy a bad 49ers team next week
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  • http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niner ... ek/page10/

    Why are we so enamored with the Niner's? Can't even talk Texans Niner's in your own thread without it becoming a Seahawk's gaggle feast.

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  • You guys are obsessed with the Seahawks as well. Go look at your Week 4 NFL gameday thread.
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  • Popeyejones wrote:Stumbling over landmines here, so I'll start with some disclaimers:

    1) There's obviously a real rivalry, and 9ers fans who claim otherwise (particularly while posting on this board, and even more particularly while making threads claiming otherwise on this board :lol: ) are completely full of it.
    2) This is also a rivalry that the Hawks are quite clearly currently winning.
    3) Silly stuff happens on every forum, and posters should ideally be judged by the quality of their posting, not by the lowest hanging fruit of their respective fanbases.
    4) As a general rule "everyone over there" statements are wrong.
    5) Despite my fandom, on balance I greatly prefer this place to the Webzone, which is a hot @ss mess IMO, whereas this place generally isn't.

    Okay, with all of that out of the way, here it is:

    It's really strange how good of a source this forum is for 49ers news. That's not because 9ers fans are posting 9ers news here. Of all the fan forums I've been to (and I've been to a lot) I've never seen a forum generates as many inane and pointless threads about a rival team. Overall I think the quality of posting here is really high, but the archaeological excavating of any and all things that could possibly be negatively spun about the 9ers or people affiliated with them is really atypical. Sorry, but from what I've seen across many forums I believe this to be true.

    I've alluded to this before, but I weakly suspect it's two things (which are not intended to offend):

    1) The Hawks are an exceptionally good team, and most likely the best team in the NFL, but they haven't won anything yet. The fanbase is as excited about the team as it has ever been, and deservedly so, but until they win it all with this team (which I expect them to do soon, and which wouldn't surprise a single NFL fan) there's going to be kind of a manic edge to some of that very deserved excitement. This kind of manic-edged excitement is compounded by #2.

    2) The Seattle-Sports-Victim-Complex isn't universal, but it's a real thing. A proportion of the fanbase feels overlooked and ignored up there in the corner, and has also grown pretty fatalistic and just assumes that things always go wrong in the end. The Mariners were great through the mid to late 1990s but never won a championship. The Hawks were very good in the 80s and 2000s but never won a championship. The only team from Seattle that ever won a championship was bad, still totally beloved, and completely stolen from you guys only to start almost instantly competing on the national stage in the NBA for reasons completely unrelated to the change of scenery.

    These two things are a wild cocktail to mix up. You have near manic excitement mixed in with a victim complex and some degree of fatalism. For some folks, no matter what they do, they just know they've been done worse (the worst of all of course, is having been ignored). Basically I think there's some crazy exhaling going on here, and a lot of the inane and celebratory angry 9ers threads (and the smilie, and the sigs) are just kind of some weird form of "payback" for something that most outsiders never even knew existed in the first place.

    In the long run I think the team is friggin awesome though, I think they'll payoff on their awesomeness, and I think this weird sorta quirk of a really good collection of posters and fans will fade away into a more typical level of dislike for one's rival.

    Sorry for the long post, and again, not intended to offend.


    Hmm... thanks for the great reply. I'll be 100% honest, I truly don't consider the Seahawks a rival team. I'm not trying to say that as some kind of way to be snobby (or however it's being interpreted here), I just think that term is thrown around too loosely nowadays, and there needs to be some substance behind it. 30 years from now, will either of our teams even remember any of the games we've played so far? Besides the 43-13 game, I doubt it. So now we're supposed to have a rivalry because you blew us out in that game? Ok...

    I just think it's this thing the media and NFL has created to get ratings and ticket sales. Which is what prompted my original question, why so much hate? It's not like we've eliminated you guys from the playoffs for the past 10 years.

    And to those that think I only posed this question after beating the Rams... yeah, go look at the time stamp of my original post.

    And go check out the other Niner threads, they were NOT all started by us (yes, yes, I realize this one was obviously).

    Lastly, mods, please feel free to delete my account if you think I'm trolling. Clearly from the angry responses here I hit a nerve. Maybe you didn't want to hear it, but that's how many of us feel about your fanbase (being overly consumed with us).
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    Not sure you caught it based on your response to PopeyeJones, but he is a 9ers fan. Your response makes it seem you thought he was a Seahawks fan.

    Your points would remain the same but since you quoted him, I just wanted you to know who you were responding to.
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  • 925NinersFan wrote:
    Popeyejones wrote:Stumbling over landmines here, so I'll start with some disclaimers:

    1) There's obviously a real rivalry, and 9ers fans who claim otherwise (particularly while posting on this board, and even more particularly while making threads claiming otherwise on this board :lol: ) are completely full of it.
    2) This is also a rivalry that the Hawks are quite clearly currently winning.
    3) Silly stuff happens on every forum, and posters should ideally be judged by the quality of their posting, not by the lowest hanging fruit of their respective fanbases.
    4) As a general rule "everyone over there" statements are wrong.
    5) Despite my fandom, on balance I greatly prefer this place to the Webzone, which is a hot @ss mess IMO, whereas this place generally isn't.

    Okay, with all of that out of the way, here it is:

    It's really strange how good of a source this forum is for 49ers news. That's not because 9ers fans are posting 9ers news here. Of all the fan forums I've been to (and I've been to a lot) I've never seen a forum generates as many inane and pointless threads about a rival team. Overall I think the quality of posting here is really high, but the archaeological excavating of any and all things that could possibly be negatively spun about the 9ers or people affiliated with them is really atypical. Sorry, but from what I've seen across many forums I believe this to be true.

    I've alluded to this before, but I weakly suspect it's two things (which are not intended to offend):

    1) The Hawks are an exceptionally good team, and most likely the best team in the NFL, but they haven't won anything yet. The fanbase is as excited about the team as it has ever been, and deservedly so, but until they win it all with this team (which I expect them to do soon, and which wouldn't surprise a single NFL fan) there's going to be kind of a manic edge to some of that very deserved excitement. This kind of manic-edged excitement is compounded by #2.

    2) The Seattle-Sports-Victim-Complex isn't universal, but it's a real thing. A proportion of the fanbase feels overlooked and ignored up there in the corner, and has also grown pretty fatalistic and just assumes that things always go wrong in the end. The Mariners were great through the mid to late 1990s but never won a championship. The Hawks were very good in the 80s and 2000s but never won a championship. The only team from Seattle that ever won a championship was bad, still totally beloved, and completely stolen from you guys only to start almost instantly competing on the national stage in the NBA for reasons completely unrelated to the change of scenery.

    These two things are a wild cocktail to mix up. You have near manic excitement mixed in with a victim complex and some degree of fatalism. For some folks, no matter what they do, they just know they've been done worse (the worst of all of course, is having been ignored). Basically I think there's some crazy exhaling going on here, and a lot of the inane and celebratory angry 9ers threads (and the smilie, and the sigs) are just kind of some weird form of "payback" for something that most outsiders never even knew existed in the first place.

    In the long run I think the team is friggin awesome though, I think they'll payoff on their awesomeness, and I think this weird sorta quirk of a really good collection of posters and fans will fade away into a more typical level of dislike for one's rival.

    Sorry for the long post, and again, not intended to offend.


    Hmm... thanks for the great reply. I'll be 100% honest, I truly don't consider the Seahawks a rival team. I'm not trying to say that as some kind of way to be snobby (or however it's being interpreted here), I just think that term is thrown around too loosely nowadays, and there needs to be some substance behind it. 30 years from now, will either of our teams even remember any of the games we've played so far? Besides the 43-13 game, I doubt it. So now we're supposed to have a rivalry because you blew us out in that game? Ok...

    I just think it's this thing the media and NFL has created to get ratings and ticket sales. Which is what prompted my original question, why so much hate? It's not like we've eliminated you guys from the playoffs for the past 10 years.

    And to those that think I only posed this question after beating the Rams... yeah, go look at the time stamp of my original post.

    And go check out the other Niner threads, they were NOT all started by us (yes, yes, I realize this one was obviously).

    Lastly, mods, please feel free to delete my account if you think I'm trolling. Clearly from the angry responses here I hit a nerve. Maybe you didn't want to hear it, but that's how many of us feel about your fanbase (being overly consumed with us).


    Maybe this is hard for you to understand but your fanbase has been over bearing and obnoxious for years and with a couple good seasons they have become completely delusional. Maybe you don't go onto any of the 9ers fan sites so you aren't aware of it though even if you have been around here you should have been able to see the obnoxious ignorance being spewed by many 9er fans.

    We have had to listen (or read) to many times how Harbaugh owns Carroll, how the Seahawks are pretenders and will be lucky to see 500 this year. How the 9ers are the best and classiest organization in football even while multiple of your players are getting accused of rape, shooting guns into crowds, breaking beer bottles over each others heads and producing DUI's at a record rate and while your coach and QB are repeatedly lighting up the douche signal on what seems like a daily basis. Lets not forget screwing their players out of millions of dollars while the Seahawks are giving players bonus's for no reason other than to say we believe you deserve this.

    This list of ignorant rants and post's from your brethren is way to long to ignore so instead we are laughing at the weak ass sisters of the NFC west.

    I will agree with you on the rivalry though. When one team is dominant and the other team is struggling to see 500 football it is hard to really take you guys seriously.

    Many on here including myself predicted your team would struggle this season and explained why and it is happening pretty much exactly the way predicted. On your boards many have predicted we would struggle and well lets be honest they were predicting we would not make 500 and Pete would get fired but the things is, they had absolutely no reason for it other than blind hope and hate.

    Go to the webzone and count how many times someone says they hate the Seahawks, Seahawks fans, Pete the cheat, Sherman on and on or how they wish someone would give Wilson a career ending injury or that Pete or Sherman would die and then maybe you'll have a better understanding of why we are not so fond of your team, fans or players. Actually there really is very little hate towards the players, mostly just laughing and pointing. Your coach on the other hand deserves all the hate he receives from here and everywhere else.

    By the way this is what happens when you are pitted as the two best teams in football and division rivals. The media hypes you and blows up the rival button hoping that it truly becomes a rivalry. Unfortunately for that to happen both teams need to remain dominant and clearly the 9ers are not. The only question about your team now really is just how bad are they? Demoralized by the two good teams they have played and only able to beat lessor opponants and yes the Packers are a lessor opponent this year. The only team they have been able to beat is the winless Redskins though they did nearly beat you. Obviously your team and supposedly superior coaching staff and GM (that can't field a complete team) are nowhere near as good as the media hyped you up to be or as your brethren delusionally assumed they would be.

    The argument that Hatbaugh was handed a nearly complete team while Pete had to build his is proving beyond any doubt that Harbaugh and Balke are complete frauds and Pete and John are truly the real deal. It makes Balkes executive of the year award even more hilarious.

    You have a classless team, fanbase and organization that is obsessed with Seahawk nation to the point of chanting Seahawks suck after beating a different team on national television. Get over yourself. we don't hate your players or wish injury to any of them or your coaches. We simply seen you as frauds from the beginning and new it was just a matter of time before the wheels came off. Your season is all but over and your team sucks so go cry yourself to sleep and start looking at next years draft. Next off season just like every off season you can come back and start your delusional rants again but for now you just need to realize how ridiculous you sound.
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  • Ha ha ha, that was hilarious (and true), Rich.

    And after the Niners lose to Houston this weekend, it's over. No way they come back from a 3-game deficit to challenge for the division. They'll be fighting for a wild card, and I'm not sure they even have what it takes to go that far.
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  • This weekend is double jeopardy for the Niners. If we win in Indy and Houston beats the Niners that will completely bury any conversation of them being a great team, let alone even good. Power rankings will reflect the team they are actually fielding.

    The fun part is even worse case scenario if we lose and they win it really is no big deal. We are on the second week of east coast road trips at 10:00am against another playoff team and they are at home against a potentially demoralized team compliments of us. So even worst case is really what most expect to happen and isn't really a reflection poorly on us.

    PS I think Monday is going to be alot of fun.
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  • I'm actually inclined to believe that the Niners pick up a game this week. I am also inclined to believe that IF they actually do pick up a game, that it is the closest they will get all season and the distance will only grow as the season progresses.

    Of course, if the Hawks somehow manage to win their 5th straight regular season road game, that no matter what they do to the Texans that it is over for them. If the Hawks win and the Niners somehow lose? Yikes.. I seriously doubt that it works out that way, but if it does the meltdown will be SEISMIC.
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  • The Colts have beat the Niners, Jaguars and Raiders. Of those you assume the Niners are a good team but are they really? The Niners have beat the Rams and GB and again you assume GB is a good team but again are they? GB have only beat the Redskins who finally won their first game against an 0-4 Steelers.

    Houston has beaten the Titans and San Diego and put up one hell of a game vs us. The Chargers and Titans are both better than anyone Indy or the Niners have beaten.

    When I look at everything, teams beaten, matchups and strengths vs weakness's I see Houston and Seattle as much better teams. The only reason there is question is we are on the second week of a 2 game east coast early start and Houston is in Candlestick after a demoralizing loss with the potential to completely implode.

    I don't know how this will all work out but the thought of Houston and Seattle both winning doesn't seem far fetched to me at all. If it does happen I think the Niners go into melt down mode and Harbaugh starts seriously losing the team. Fortunately/unfortunately the fan base will disappear again. It will be nice to not see them around here (at least until next off season) but we won't get to enjoy their misery.
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  • RichNhansom wrote:The Colts have beat the Niners, Jaguars and Raiders. Of those you assume the Niners are a good team but are they really? The Niners have beat the Rams and GB and again you assume GB is a good team but again are they? GB have only beat the Redskins who finally won their first game against an 0-4 Steelers.

    Houston has beaten the Titans and San Diego and put up one hell of a game vs us. The Chargers and Titans are both better than anyone Indy or the Niners have beaten.

    When I look at everything, teams beaten, matchups and strengths vs weakness's I see Houston and Seattle as much better teams. The only reason there is question is we are on the second week of a 2 game east coast early start and Houston is in Candlestick after a demoralizing loss with the potential to completely implode.

    I don't know how this will all work out but the thought of Houston and Seattle both winning doesn't seem far fetched to me at all. If it does happen I think the Niners go into melt down mode and Harbaugh starts seriously losing the team. Fortunately/unfortunately the fan base will disappear again. It will be nice to not see them around here (at least until next off season) but we won't get to enjoy their misery.


    Nice rationale, but if you take it too literally it shows that last year the 49ers were better than the Seahawks all the way through. Decisive wins over the Packers and Patriots on the road while the Seahawks barely beat those teams at home.

    It's still way too early to tell what will happen this season and who really is good and who is not. The 49ers are 2-2 with much roster change on offense due to FA and injuries whereas Seattle is much more similar roster wise to last year's squad.

    The effects of swapping Delanie Walker with a rookie TE, playing without the top two WRs from last year is clearly being felt. It might be a lot to overcome or it could be a blessing in disguise for SF, long term.

    People are projecting week 4 into week 17+ and it doesn't always work that way.
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  • NINEster wrote:
    RichNhansom wrote:The Colts have beat the Niners, Jaguars and Raiders. Of those you assume the Niners are a good team but are they really? The Niners have beat the Rams and GB and again you assume GB is a good team but again are they? GB have only beat the Redskins who finally won their first game against an 0-4 Steelers.

    Houston has beaten the Titans and San Diego and put up one hell of a game vs us. The Chargers and Titans are both better than anyone Indy or the Niners have beaten.

    When I look at everything, teams beaten, matchups and strengths vs weakness's I see Houston and Seattle as much better teams. The only reason there is question is we are on the second week of a 2 game east coast early start and Houston is in Candlestick after a demoralizing loss with the potential to completely implode.

    I don't know how this will all work out but the thought of Houston and Seattle both winning doesn't seem far fetched to me at all. If it does happen I think the Niners go into melt down mode and Harbaugh starts seriously losing the team. Fortunately/unfortunately the fan base will disappear again. It will be nice to not see them around here (at least until next off season) but we won't get to enjoy their misery.


    Nice rationale, but if you take it too literally it shows that last year the 49ers were better than the Seahawks all the way through. Decisive wins over the Packers and Patriots on the road while the Seahawks barely beat those teams at home.

    Not really. We played GB early in the year before the coaching staff trusted Wilson. It was because of games like those and Chicago the they opened the playbook up. Also your wins against GB and NE were both later games and if they had been early there is no question you would have lost. The only team you could beat at 10:00am was the Jets, getting beat by the Rams and Vikings. Look at those teams before and after last season.

    I know you don't want to face it but there are correlations between all of them. It is much like the Atlanta game. Do you think you win that if you had to start at 10:00am like we did the week before?


    It's still way too early to tell what will happen this season and who really is good and who is not. The 49ers are 2-2 with much roster change on offense due to FA and injuries whereas Seattle is much more similar roster wise to last year's squad.

    Keep telling yourself that. I was saying in the off season you would struggle because you were only returning one guy that had caught a pass from Kaep the year prior. I also said the table is made for Kaep to struggle this year because of it. I said you would notice the loss of Delaney Walker and Goldson and you are relying far to much on unproven talent. Your situation was very predictable. Seattle has faced it's own demons this year with Clemons, Browner and Irvin all missing the start of the Season and now with the three best O-lineman out. The big difference between you and us is our FA acquisitions are having a huge impact. Bennett might be our best defender so far this year and Avril and Schfield have also been very effective.

    The effects of swapping Delanie Walker with a rookie TE, playing without the top two WRs from last year is clearly being felt. It might be a lot to overcome or it could be a blessing in disguise for SF, long term.

    So far it only looks like a blessing (no disguise) for Seattle and the rest of the NFL and I don't see any reason for that to change. By the time your rookies and FA's get up to speed Cowboy and Gore might be retired and if you pay attention to last year and how tired and worn out your defense was at the end and extrapolate that to this year with Cowboy at 34 and still not rotating your starters, it doesn't give any reason to believe your defense will improve on the year and more than likely will decline.

    People are projecting week 4 into week 17+ and it doesn't always work that way.

    Of course it doesn't ALWAYS work that way. No one thought the Cards were going to s super bowl last year but that doesn't eliminate all projections. Some are very predictable. Injuries could derail any season but if your relying on injuries to your opponents to help you out then your probably not going to like the outcome.

    I have heard three weeks staright now thit is is only _____ games into the season. At some point you have to recognize the reality of things. That could be this weekend for you guys. It may or may not happen but if the Texans play you like they played us, they are winning. Same can be said for Seattle though, it we play like we did in Houston it will likely be a loss. Hopefully we learned something from that win and we do get back a couple key players this week.
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  • RichNhansom wrote:
    NINEster wrote:
    RichNhansom wrote:The Colts have beat the Niners, Jaguars and Raiders. Of those you assume the Niners are a good team but are they really? The Niners have beat the Rams and GB and again you assume GB is a good team but again are they? GB have only beat the Redskins who finally won their first game against an 0-4 Steelers.

    Houston has beaten the Titans and San Diego and put up one hell of a game vs us. The Chargers and Titans are both better than anyone Indy or the Niners have beaten.

    When I look at everything, teams beaten, matchups and strengths vs weakness's I see Houston and Seattle as much better teams. The only reason there is question is we are on the second week of a 2 game east coast early start and Houston is in Candlestick after a demoralizing loss with the potential to completely implode.

    I don't know how this will all work out but the thought of Houston and Seattle both winning doesn't seem far fetched to me at all. If it does happen I think the Niners go into melt down mode and Harbaugh starts seriously losing the team. Fortunately/unfortunately the fan base will disappear again. It will be nice to not see them around here (at least until next off season) but we won't get to enjoy their misery.


    Nice rationale, but if you take it too literally it shows that last year the 49ers were better than the Seahawks all the way through. Decisive wins over the Packers and Patriots on the road while the Seahawks barely beat those teams at home.

    Not really. We played GB early in the year before the coaching staff trusted Wilson. It was because of games like those and Chicago the they opened the playbook up. Also your wins against GB and NE were both later games and if they had been early there is no question you would have lost. The only team you could beat at 10:00am was the Jets, getting beat by the Rams and Vikings. Look at those teams before and after last season.

    I know you don't want to face it but there are correlations between all of them. It is much like the Atlanta game. Do you think you win that if you had to start at 10:00am like we did the week before?


    It's still way too early to tell what will happen this season and who really is good and who is not. The 49ers are 2-2 with much roster change on offense due to FA and injuries whereas Seattle is much more similar roster wise to last year's squad.

    Keep telling yourself that. I was saying in the off season you would struggle because you were only returning one guy that had caught a pass from Kaep the year prior. I also said the table is made for Kaep to struggle this year because of it. I said you would notice the loss of Delaney Walker and Goldson and you are relying far to much on unproven talent. Your situation was very predictable. Seattle has faced it's own demons this year with Clemons, Browner and Irvin all missing the start of the Season and now with the three best O-lineman out. The big difference between you and us is our FA acquisitions are having a huge impact. Bennett might be our best defender so far this year and Avril and Schfield have also been very effective.

    The effects of swapping Delanie Walker with a rookie TE, playing without the top two WRs from last year is clearly being felt. It might be a lot to overcome or it could be a blessing in disguise for SF, long term.

    So far it only looks like a blessing (no disguise) for Seattle and the rest of the NFL and I don't see any reason for that to change. By the time your rookies and FA's get up to speed Cowboy and Gore might be retired and if you pay attention to last year and how tired and worn out your defense was at the end and extrapolate that to this year with Cowboy at 34 and still not rotating your starters, it doesn't give any reason to believe your defense will improve on the year and more than likely will decline.

    People are projecting week 4 into week 17+ and it doesn't always work that way.

    Of course it doesn't ALWAYS work that way. No one thought the Cards were going to s super bowl last year but that doesn't eliminate all projections. Some are very predictable. Injuries could derail any season but if your relying on injuries to your opponents to help you out then your probably not going to like the outcome.

    I have heard three weeks staright now thit is is only _____ games into the season. At some point you have to recognize the reality of things. That could be this weekend for you guys. It may or may not happen but if the Texans play you like they played us, they are winning. Same can be said for Seattle though, it we play like we did in Houston it will likely be a loss. Hopefully we learned something from that win and we do get back a couple key players this week.


    That pretty well sums it up. Great post.
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