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 Post subject: Re: Who will cover the Rams?
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SacHawk2.0 wrote:
A Niner fan and a Ram fan having a slap fight on a Seahawks fan board.



That is all there is on this forum anymore. It's getting old.

Apparently their boards suck so bad they feel they have to come here for attention.


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OrFan wrote:
SacHawk2.0 wrote:
A Niner fan and a Ram fan having a slap fight on a Seahawks fan board.



That is all there is on this forum anymore. It's getting old.

Apparently their boards suck so bad they feel they have to come here for attention.


LOL.

Not that it matters but I spent a lot of that time defending a SEAHAWK.


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OrFan wrote:
SacHawk2.0 wrote:
A Niner fan and a Ram fan having a slap fight on a Seahawks fan board.



That is all there is on this forum anymore. It's getting old.

Apparently their boards suck so bad they feel they have to come here for attention.


LOL.

Not that it matters but I spent a lot of that time defending a SEAHAWK.



You shut your dirty whore mouth!!

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OrFan wrote:
SacHawk2.0 wrote:
A Niner fan and a Ram fan having a slap fight on a Seahawks fan board.



That is all there is on this forum anymore. It's getting old.

Apparently their boards suck so bad they feel they have to come here for attention.


I think its entertaining as hell.

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Austin wasn't the best receiver at WV. Stedman Bailey was (also drafted by the Rams) and what your ignoring about Austin is why you bring him in. It's not because you think he will have elite numbers it is because defenses cannot ignore him. It is a very large part of the reason Bailey had 1600 yards and 26 TD's his senior year alone and still wasn't considered a top draft prospect. It's what I refer to as the Harvin effect. Austin doesn't have to be a elite target to have a strong benefit to the offense.


^ This ^

Whether he turns out to be a superstar or not, anyone with half a brain should be able to see that such a player is going to draw quite a bit of attention from defenses. Doesn't matter if he's a Ram, Seahawk, 49er, or whatever.

However, Marvin49 seems to believe that he's the only one that can make claims on the kid's future while everyone else has to wait and see what happens. :lol:


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LOL, you sure changed your tune quickly. First it was:

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Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I've been watching football long enough to be a reasonable judge of talent. This is the real deal.


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See, I've watched a LOT of TA and I think you're not seeing how this guy survives and thrives.


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It's not me. I haven't been to camp.


So, first we were supposed to believe you because you claim to be a reasonable judge of talent. Now we are supposed to believe you because you found a couple of quotes from a couple of sportswriters? You're not exactly putting together a coherent argument here.

Once again, looking good in August doesn't mean you'll look good in January. Prove it in the regular season. Then we'll talk.


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How many athletes are at the height and weight stated, guys under 6 foot by up to a couple inches get listed at 6 foot many times, guys at 6 foot at 6' 2", guys thin at heavier weights, guys big at lighter weights, especially in college reports, why the combine is so diligent at putting these guys thru every measurement they can think off. Trying to find the truth, even then it can be leaked incorrectly or kept quiet so people don't get any inside info if a team is interested.


And yet, Marvin insisted that Harvin is at least 10-15 pounds heavier than Austin. If the information on the teams' websites can't be relied upon (which again, show an 8 pound weight difference), then presumably he would have another source before making such a definitive assertion.

He has NO SOURCE, other than the voices in his head.

As for Rams/Whiners battles here, nobody should be surprised. The Rams and Whiners have hated each other since before there was an NFL franchise in Seattle.


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How many athletes are at the height and weight stated, guys under 6 foot by up to a couple inches get listed at 6 foot many times, guys at 6 foot at 6' 2", guys thin at heavier weights, guys big at lighter weights, especially in college reports, why the combine is so diligent at putting these guys thru every measurement they can think off. Trying to find the truth, even then it can be leaked incorrectly or kept quiet so people don't get any inside info if a team is interested.


And yet, Marvin insisted that Harvin is at least 10-15 pounds heavier than Austin. If the information on the teams' websites can't be relied upon (which again, show an 8 pound weight difference), then presumably he would have another source before making such a definitive assertion.

He has NO SOURCE, other than the voices in his head.

As for Rams/Whiners battles here, nobody should be surprised. The Rams and Whiners have hated each other since before there was an NFL franchise in Seattle.


I have COMMON SENSE, some thing you clearly lack. You also have no proof that I'm WRONG about listed weights. I don't NEED proof to prove something that well known if you have been a fan for more than 10 minutes. LISTED WEIGHTS DON'T CHANGE EVERY YEAR.

Even if you're right (which you're not) we are talking about a freakin' 2 lb difference. LOL. Have him eat a good turkey dinner and its over 10 lbs. Are you so deparate to be right that you are arguing 2 freakin lbs!?!

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Shadowhawk wrote:
LOL, you sure changed your tune quickly. First it was:

RamzFanz wrote:
Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I've been watching football long enough to be a reasonable judge of talent. This is the real deal.


RamzFanz wrote:
See, I've watched a LOT of TA and I think you're not seeing how this guy survives and thrives.


Now?

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It's not me. I haven't been to camp.


So, first we were supposed to believe you because you claim to be a reasonable judge of talent. Now we are supposed to believe you because you found a couple of quotes from a couple of sportswriters? You're not exactly putting together a coherent argument here.

Once again, looking good in August doesn't mean you'll look good in January. Prove it in the regular season. Then we'll talk.


I should have said I've watched a LOT of TA on tape.

You'll see.

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I should have said I've watched a LOT of TA on tape.

You'll see.


Oh, well, that just clears it all up for us. We bow down to your expertise.

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I should have said I've watched a LOT of TA on tape.

You'll see.


Where did you get your tape from? Cutups, game tapes, coaches tape?

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I have COMMON SENSE, some thing you clearly lack. You also have no proof that I'm WRONG about listed weights. I don't NEED proof to prove something that well known if you have been a fan for more than 10 minutes. LISTED WEIGHTS DON'T CHANGE EVERY YEAR.

Even if you're right (which you're not) we are talking about a freakin' 2 lb difference. LOL. Have him eat a good turkey dinner and its over 10 lbs. Are you so deparate to be right that you are arguing 2 freakin lbs!?!

...and he says I'M a tool. Wow


You are dumber than a box of rocks.

I don't have to prove anything. Its your assertion (that Harvin is 10-15 pounds heavier than Austin). You have to prove it. You have failed.

Also, you completely ignore the fact that Austin is 8 lbs. lighter and 3 inches shorter. That suggests that Austin may very well have a MORE solid build than Harvin.

Now go away, silly person.


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Shadowhawk wrote:
LOL, you sure changed your tune quickly. First it was:

RamzFanz wrote:
Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I've been watching football long enough to be a reasonable judge of talent. This is the real deal.


RamzFanz wrote:
See, I've watched a LOT of TA and I think you're not seeing how this guy survives and thrives.


Now?

RamzFanz wrote:
It's not me. I haven't been to camp.


So, first we were supposed to believe you because you claim to be a reasonable judge of talent. Now we are supposed to believe you because you found a couple of quotes from a couple of sportswriters? You're not exactly putting together a coherent argument here.

Once again, looking good in August doesn't mean you'll look good in January. Prove it in the regular season. Then we'll talk.


MMQB Peter King after visiting 20 teams: "I think the single-best player we saw on our tour was St. Louis tight end Jared Cook. What a catch radius. How he caught only 44 balls last year in Tennessee I’ll never know."

Second best rookie he saw "Tavon Austin, WR/KR/PR, St. Louis. Saw him make Cortland Finnegan, a $10 million-a-year cornerback, look very mortal on an eight-yard curl. Preview of things to come."

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RamzFanz wrote:
Shadowhawk wrote:
LOL, you sure changed your tune quickly. First it was:

RamzFanz wrote:
Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I've been watching football long enough to be a reasonable judge of talent. This is the real deal.


RamzFanz wrote:
See, I've watched a LOT of TA and I think you're not seeing how this guy survives and thrives.


Now?

RamzFanz wrote:
It's not me. I haven't been to camp.


So, first we were supposed to believe you because you claim to be a reasonable judge of talent. Now we are supposed to believe you because you found a couple of quotes from a couple of sportswriters? You're not exactly putting together a coherent argument here.

Once again, looking good in August doesn't mean you'll look good in January. Prove it in the regular season. Then we'll talk.


MMQB Peter King after visiting 20 teams: "I think the single-best player we saw on our tour was St. Louis tight end Jared Cook. What a catch radius. How he caught only 44 balls last year in Tennessee I’ll never know."

Second best rookie he saw "Tavon Austin, WR/KR/PR, St. Louis. Saw him make Cortland Finnegan, a $10 million-a-year cornerback, look very mortal on an eight-yard curl. Preview of things to come."


Peter King has no credibility because A) It's Peter King and B) The Rams have granted him a personal favor so there's no way he's going to bother being objective. By the way, re-read that sentence again. No one cares about an eight yard curl route. Seriously.

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I have COMMON SENSE, some thing you clearly lack. You also have no proof that I'm WRONG about listed weights. I don't NEED proof to prove something that well known if you have been a fan for more than 10 minutes. LISTED WEIGHTS DON'T CHANGE EVERY YEAR.

Even if you're right (which you're not) we are talking about a freakin' 2 lb difference. LOL. Have him eat a good turkey dinner and its over 10 lbs. Are you so deparate to be right that you are arguing 2 freakin lbs!?!

...and he says I'M a tool. Wow


You are dumber than a box of rocks.

I don't have to prove anything. Its your assertion (that Harvin is 10-15 pounds heavier than Austin). You have to prove it. You have failed.

Also, you completely ignore the fact that Austin is 8 lbs. lighter and 3 inches shorter. That suggests that Austin may very well have a MORE solid build than Harvin.

Now go away, silly person.



OMG....I'M dumber than a box of rocks!?!

Listen dumbskull, I was the person who pointed to Harvins height TO BEGIN WITH. YOU are the one making a big deal over a supposed TWO FREAKIN' LBs. EVEN IF YOU WERE RIGHT...it's 2 damn pounds!!! I'M the one that's dumb? Look in the freakin mirror homey.

BTW Jacka$$...for what it's worth...

http://www.chacha.com/question/how-much ... rvin-weigh
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does ... rvin_weigh

or how about his own page...

http://percyharvin.com/

So...you're right....it's not 10-15lbs. It's more like 20-30 lbs. Now bite me sheep lover.


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MMQB Peter King after visiting 20 teams: "I think the single-best player we saw on our tour was St. Louis tight end Jared Cook. What a catch radius. How he caught only 44 balls last year in Tennessee I’ll never know."

Second best rookie he saw "Tavon Austin, WR/KR/PR, St. Louis. Saw him make Cortland Finnegan, a $10 million-a-year cornerback, look very mortal on an eight-yard curl. Preview of things to come."


Peter King has no credibility because A) It's Peter King and B) The Rams have granted him a personal favor so there's no way he's going to bother being objective. By the way, re-read that sentence again. No one cares about an eight yard curl route. Seriously.


Um, what? He visited 20 teams. They all did him a personal favor. Did he call their TE the best player in any camp or their WR the second best rookie? Nope. Keeeeeep sleeping the Rams, it's going to make the shock so much more enjoyable.

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RamzFanz wrote:
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MMQB Peter King after visiting 20 teams: "I think the single-best player we saw on our tour was St. Louis tight end Jared Cook. What a catch radius. How he caught only 44 balls last year in Tennessee I’ll never know."

Second best rookie he saw "Tavon Austin, WR/KR/PR, St. Louis. Saw him make Cortland Finnegan, a $10 million-a-year cornerback, look very mortal on an eight-yard curl. Preview of things to come."


Peter King has no credibility because A) It's Peter King and B) The Rams have granted him a personal favor so there's no way he's going to bother being objective. By the way, re-read that sentence again. No one cares about an eight yard curl route. Seriously.


Um, what? He visited 20 teams. They all did him a personal favor. Did he call their TE the best player in any camp or their WR the second best rookie? Nope. Keeeeeep sleeping the Rams, it's going to make the shock so much more enjoyable.


I have no doubt he looked good in camp and I'd be happy if the Niners had taken him. All I'm sayin' is don't get the bust ready for Canton just yet. He's trying to do something a selct few have been able to do....play WR on the NFL level at that diminutive size.

I'm sure he's lightning quick and fast...but the real bullets aren't firing yet. Training camp heroes can easily fade in September.

What people here are taking issue with is the ASSUMPTION that he's just gonna step in and dominate. Nobody is doubting that he has talent. So have MANY, MANY other high picks who completely flamed out (See Ginn, Ted - Howard, Desmond - Warrick, Peter for examples).


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Marvin49 wrote:
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I have COMMON SENSE, some thing you clearly lack. You also have no proof that I'm WRONG about listed weights. I don't NEED proof to prove something that well known if you have been a fan for more than 10 minutes. LISTED WEIGHTS DON'T CHANGE EVERY YEAR.

Even if you're right (which you're not) we are talking about a freakin' 2 lb difference. LOL. Have him eat a good turkey dinner and its over 10 lbs. Are you so deparate to be right that you are arguing 2 freakin lbs!?!

...and he says I'M a tool. Wow


You are dumber than a box of rocks.

I don't have to prove anything. Its your assertion (that Harvin is 10-15 pounds heavier than Austin). You have to prove it. You have failed.

Also, you completely ignore the fact that Austin is 8 lbs. lighter and 3 inches shorter. That suggests that Austin may very well have a MORE solid build than Harvin.

Now go away, silly person.



OMG....I'M dumber than a box of rocks!?!

Listen dumbskull, I was the person who pointed to Harvins height TO BEGIN WITH. YOU are the one making a big deal over a supposed TWO FREAKIN' LBs. EVEN IF YOU WERE RIGHT...it's 2 damn pounds!!! I'M the one that's dumb? Look in the freakin mirror homey.

BTW Jacka$$...for what it's worth...

http://www.chacha.com/question/how-much ... rvin-weigh
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does ... rvin_weigh

or how about his own page...

http://percyharvin.com/

So...you're right....it's not 10-15lbs. It's more like 20-30 lbs. Now bite me sheep lover.


So, if we assume that Tavon Austin's weight on the Rams' site is correct, but Percy Harvin's weight on the Seahawks' site is incorrect, and that his true weight is reflected on his web page, then there would be a 19 lb difference (your math skills are a bit faulty). Of course, if all sources are suspect, then I guess we don't what Austin's weight is either.

None of this, of course, changes my opinion. Austin and Harvin are both small WRs who rely on speed. Those who dismiss Austin as an injury risk, while not doing the same for Harvin (or Wes Welker, or Steve Smith, or Randall Cobb, etc.) are being inconsistent.


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You are dumber than a box of rocks.

I don't have to prove anything. Its your assertion (that Harvin is 10-15 pounds heavier than Austin). You have to prove it. You have failed.

Also, you completely ignore the fact that Austin is 8 lbs. lighter and 3 inches shorter. That suggests that Austin may very well have a MORE solid build than Harvin.

Now go away, silly person.



OMG....I'M dumber than a box of rocks!?!

Listen dumbskull, I was the person who pointed to Harvins height TO BEGIN WITH. YOU are the one making a big deal over a supposed TWO FREAKIN' LBs. EVEN IF YOU WERE RIGHT...it's 2 damn pounds!!! I'M the one that's dumb? Look in the freakin mirror homey.

BTW Jacka$$...for what it's worth...

http://www.chacha.com/question/how-much ... rvin-weigh
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does ... rvin_weigh

or how about his own page...

http://percyharvin.com/

So...you're right....it's not 10-15lbs. It's more like 20-30 lbs. Now bite me sheep lover.


So, if we assume that Tavon Austin's weight on the Rams' site is correct, but Percy Harvin's weight on the Seahawks' site is incorrect, and that his true weight is reflected on his web page, then there would be a 19 lb difference (your math skills are a bit faulty). Of course, if all sources are suspect, then I guess we don't what Austin's weight is either.

None of this, of course, changes my opinion. Austin and Harvin are both small WRs who rely on speed. Those who dismiss Austin as an injury risk, while not doing the same for Harvin (or Wes Welker, or Steve Smith, etc.) are being inconsistent.


You never learn do you. My math skills are just fine BTW because 195 minus 174 is 21. Nice attempt to score points and failing miserably genius. 203 minus 174 is 29 BTW...so 20-30 lbs. Like I said.

Who is dumber than a box of rocks again?

Most sources ARE suspect. That's been my point all along. The only stats that CAN be trusted are the ones from the combine. The problem with that tho is that the further a player gets from the combine the more likely it is to be inaccurate and not reflect a players CURRENT weight. The only thing that is for sure is that Austin was 174 at the combine and Harvin was 192 at the combine. That would be an 18 lb. difference. NFL WRs tend to gain weight after a few years in the weight room, which is why you get that link I provided that says 203 lbs. You know...the point I was making ALL ALONG.

Has Austin GAINED weight in the few short months since he was drafted? Possibly...but I highly doubt it's a significant amount. Will he gain MORE weight as time goes on? Probably. How much tho depends on genetics, work ethic, and if he can maintain his speed at that size. LaMichael James for example was like 5'8" and 170 as a Sophmore at Oregon. He's gained weight every year and put on another 10 lbs this offseason and is up to 205 or so now.

As for you're last point....um...so? That was never my point. I never said a word about staying healthy. Harvin clearly HASN'T stayed healthy. My only point was that Austin is short and small. Don't try to deflect the conversation in another direction to be right after a few days now of calling me stupid now that you know I'm right.


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He's 176 according to the Rams' site.

You're a moron.

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He's 176 according to the Rams' site.

You're a moron.



Are you honestly trusting the team website? Oh boy, what a rube.

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He's 176 according to the Rams' site.

You're a moron.

This conversation is over.


Have you learned nothing? LOL.

Cya. :D

BTW...for the record...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/ ... id=2539336

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/ ... n?id=80425


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He's 176 according to the Rams' site.

You're a moron.



Are you honestly trusting the team website? Oh boy, what a rube.


LOL...where were you 2 days ago when I was making that exact same point?

Poor guy...he really thought he had me there. That's cute. :D


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Marvin is a legend in his own mind.

Moving along, I think that Austin will likely be the 3rd leading receiver on the Rams (in terms of receptions and yards) this year, behind Chris Givens and Jared Cook. Austin's role will be to provide big plays and TDs.


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Marvin is a legend in his own mind.

Moving along, I think that Austin will likely be the 3rd leading receiver on the Rams (in terms of receptions and yards) this year, behind Chris Givens and Jared Cook. Austin's role will be to provide big plays and TDs.


SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO funny!!!! ROFLMAO.

SOMEONE can't stand being proven wrong. LOL.

Moving on...

As for you're point....dunno. I like Cook tho...just prefer he wasn't a Ram.


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Marvin is a legend in his own mind.

Moving along, I think that Austin will likely be the 3rd leading receiver on the Rams (in terms of receptions and yards) this year, behind Chris Givens and Jared Cook. Austin's role will be to provide big plays and TDs.


Well...what did the team's website say about it?

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Marvin is a legend in his own mind.

Moving along, I think that Austin will likely be the 3rd leading receiver on the Rams (in terms of receptions and yards) this year, behind Chris Givens and Jared Cook. Austin's role will be to provide big plays and TDs.


Well...what did the team's website say about it?


LMAO!!!

oh man.....I rarely actually LOL when I say LOL. I literally laughed out loud. Nice.


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Marvin49 wrote:
AvengerRam wrote:
Marvin is a legend in his own mind.

Moving along, I think that Austin will likely be the 3rd leading receiver on the Rams (in terms of receptions and yards) this year, behind Chris Givens and Jared Cook. Austin's role will be to provide big plays and TDs.


SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO funny!!!! ROFLMAO.

SOMEONE can't stand being proven wrong. LOL.


Clearly, you don't know the definition of the word "proven." Idiot.

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Moving on...

As for you're point....dunno. I like Cook tho...just prefer he wasn't a Ram.


There's a rare bit of wisdom from you.


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Marvin49 wrote:
HawksFTW wrote:
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Marvin is a legend in his own mind.

Moving along, I think that Austin will likely be the 3rd leading receiver on the Rams (in terms of receptions and yards) this year, behind Chris Givens and Jared Cook. Austin's role will be to provide big plays and TDs.


Well...what did the team's website say about it?


LMAO!!!

oh man.....I rarely actually LOL when I say LOL. I literally laughed out loud. Nice.


Oh... you made a new friend!

Good for you! :th2thumbs:


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Marvin49 wrote:
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Marvin is a legend in his own mind.

Moving along, I think that Austin will likely be the 3rd leading receiver on the Rams (in terms of receptions and yards) this year, behind Chris Givens and Jared Cook. Austin's role will be to provide big plays and TDs.


SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO funny!!!! ROFLMAO.

SOMEONE can't stand being proven wrong. LOL.


Clearly, you don't know the definition of the word "proven." Idiot.

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Moving on...

As for you're point....dunno. I like Cook tho...just prefer he wasn't a Ram.


There's a rare bit of wisdom from you.


Wow...2 days of calling me idiot, moron, stupid, and dumber than a box of rocks and this is all you got left? Sad.

I was right all along. You know it. Don't pretend you don't. Ordinarily I wouldn't rub someone's nose in it but the aforementioned insults are making me enjoy this quite a bit.

Nothing you can say now. Just give up. It's over.


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Wow...2 days of calling me idiot, moron, stupid, and dumber than a box of rocks and this is all you got left? Sad.

I was right all along. You know it. Don't pretend you don't. Ordinarily I wouldn't rub someone's nose in it but the aforementioned insults are making me enjoy this quite a bit.

Nothing you can say now. Just give up. It's over.


Do you have brain damage?

You asserted that Percy Harvin is 15-20 lbs. heavier than Tavon Austin.

You then spent two days establishing that an internet search reveals Harvin's weight as being anywhere from 184 lbs. to 195 lbs. You have further acknowledged that you don't know which source is correct.

So... and read slowly so you can follow this... you have not proven your point, you've contradicted it.

You don't know how much Harvin weighs. For that matter, you don't know how much Austin weighs.

Thus... and again, read slowly... you have no basis to conclusively assert what the weight difference is.

My point, which you've successfully managed to bury in a pile of your nonsense, is that they are both small WRs who are regularly hit by bigger players. My point is not dependent on any particular weight.

If you are too stupid to follow this, that's your problem.

If you feel the need to engage in further undeserved declarations of victory, be my guest.

Buh-bye.


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Wow. This is a new one on me I don't even have to go to an open board like Football Futures or ESPN to watch a dumb pissing match between a Ram and 49er fan.

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Wow...2 days of calling me idiot, moron, stupid, and dumber than a box of rocks and this is all you got left? Sad.

I was right all along. You know it. Don't pretend you don't. Ordinarily I wouldn't rub someone's nose in it but the aforementioned insults are making me enjoy this quite a bit.

Nothing you can say now. Just give up. It's over.


Do you have brain damage?

You asserted that Percy Harvin is 15-20 lbs. heavier than Tavon Austin.

You then spent two days establishing that an internet search reveals Harvin's weight as being anywhere from 184 lbs. to 195 lbs. You have further acknowledged that you don't know which source is correct.

So... and read slowly so you can follow this... you have not proven your point, you've contradicted it.

You don't know how much Harvin weighs. For that matter, you don't know how much Austin weighs.

Thus... and again, read slowly... you have no basis to conclusively assert what the weight difference is.

My point, which you've successfully managed to bury in a pile of your nonsense, is that they are both small WRs who are regularly hit by bigger players. My point is not dependent on any particular weight.

If you are too stupid to follow this, that's your problem.

If you feel the need to engage in further undeserved declarations of victory, be my guest.

Buh-bye.


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

Look at this guy.

Can't stand it. Can't admit it when he's wrong. Changing his argument midstream in order to be "right"

Someone (don't recall if it was you) made a comparison to Percy Harvin.

I said Percy was 3 inches taller and 10-15 lbs heavier.

YOU went off on a lame crusade about it being EIGHT pounds (a whopping difference of 2 lbs) and began using every word you could find in the thesaurus for the word stupid.

I supplied the combine weights which support my point....tho Harvin was actually HEAVIER than I tought coming out. I also explained what MOST PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW which is that listed weights on team sites or almost anywhere else on the internet are useless. They mean nothing. The only time weights are publically listed is at the combine. This isn't rocket science.

I then pointed you to sites that have said that in addition to those combine numbers he has been working out in recent years and may weigh as much as 203 lbs.

None of this is nonsense as much as you would like it to be. The fact of the matter is that you have run out of arguments and are simply now resorting to holding me to some Court of Law standard of proof on a freakin' internet forum. That comical and pathetic.

I don't need to prove anything to you. I made my case. Its up to anyone else to decide if I've made it. Nobody else really cares here tho and it wouldn't matter what I said to you...you are clearly incapable admitting when you're wrong. BTW, I did so early on when I learned he was heavier in the combine than I thought. You called me a tool for it.

This is my last post on this conversation because clearly you have no ability to reason. Its a pointless conversation. Moreover this isn't even our forum so kinda feel bad for having this argument here. They don't care what we think anyway.

Finally, I want to thank you for making me understand that I no longer have to take anything you say seriously. I've seen how you're reasoning works enough to know that I wouldn't trust any opinion you have. Cheers.


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EDIT: Found it! :)


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Wow. This is a new one on me I don't even have to go to an open board like Football Futures or ESPN to watch a dumb pissing match between a Ram and 49er fan.


Yeah...I have to admit it. Its pretty dumb. I apologize. Wrong place for it.

Sorry peeps.


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Wow. This is a new one on me I don't even have to go to an open board like Football Futures or ESPN to watch a dumb pissing match between a Ram and 49er fan.


Yeah...I have to admit it. Its pretty dumb. I apologize. Wrong place for it.

Sorry peeps.

It happens. I don't mind talking about other teams that is what this forum is for but pointless arguements over semantics concerning them is out of place here.

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Wow. This is a new one on me I don't even have to go to an open board like Football Futures or ESPN to watch a dumb pissing match between a Ram and 49er fan.


Yeah...I have to admit it. Its pretty dumb. I apologize. Wrong place for it.

Sorry peeps.

It happens. I don't mind talking about other teams that is what this forum is for but pointless arguements over semantics concerning them is out of place here.


Totally agree. I just couldn't believe he was so adamant about something so stupid....so I got all caught up in it. My bad. :D


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Sometimes weigh in numbers listed on team websites are correct and sometimes they are not. There's really no absolutes. Over the years, I've read articles or heard interviews where players provide weights that match exactly what's listed on the website and some where players have given numbers not even close to what is listed. And these are players on the same freaking team. Also some teams update their websites regularly and some do not.

In the end, only the individual, their teams, and whomever the individual (or teams) have confided in knows the exact weight of these players at any given moment. Not message board posters outside of that circle.

Besides, a player's weight can change during the course of a season. And combine weigh in numbers are only accurate on that day as players add or drop weight just for the event every single year. And sometimes these changes are dramatic.

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Sometimes weigh in numbers listed on team websites are correct and sometimes they are not. There's really no absolutes. Over the years, I've read articles or heard interviews where players provide weights that match exactly what's listed on the website and some where players have given numbers not even close to what is listed. And these are players on the same freaking team. Also some teams update their websites regularly and some do not.

In the end, only the individual, their teams, and whomever the individual (or teams) have confided in knows the exact weight of these players at any given moment. Not message board posters outside of that circle.

Besides, a player's weight can change during the course of a season. And combine weigh in numbers are only accurate on that day as players add or drop weight just for the event every single year. And sometimes these changes are dramatic.

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That was largely my point. The only thing that's for sure are combine numbers, but after a few years you have no idea how accurate those numbers are.

Not sure if it was him or me you are calling an idiot (or more likely both of us), but it was stupid of me to argue it. Live and learn.


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I have no doubt he looked good in camp and I'd be happy if the Niners had taken him. All I'm sayin' is don't get the bust ready for Canton just yet. He's trying to do something a selct few have been able to do....play WR on the NFL level at that diminutive size.

I'm sure he's lightning quick and fast...but the real bullets aren't firing yet. Training camp heroes can easily fade in September.

What people here are taking issue with is the ASSUMPTION that he's just gonna step in and dominate. Nobody is doubting that he has talent. So have MANY, MANY other high picks who completely flamed out (See Ginn, Ted - Howard, Desmond - Warrick, Peter for examples).


I hear ya. I'm only providing quotes to show it's a widely held belief and not just homer talk.

If TA is the 3rd or 4th receiver in passing yards, that would be fine. To me, he's all about starting field position.

The press and the talk is a lot about Tavon but the Rams are fielding a hell of a team even without him. They aren't counting on him as a major receiving weapon.

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Looks like Hawks third string could cover the whole rams starting offense, and then some, if preseason were an indication.


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Looks like Hawks third string could cover the whole rams starting offense, and then some, if preseason were an indication.


...and it's not.

No one will be able to cover this speed. The preseason play means NOTHING.

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Looks like Hawks third string could cover the whole rams starting offense, and then some, if preseason were an indication.


...and it's not.

No one will be able to cover this speed. The preseason play means NOTHING.


Its totally not, but TC reports are totally indicators, guys!

GET WITH THE PROGRAM HERE!

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Sam Bradford's new haircut receives mixed reviews. He was hoping to muscle in on the Kaepernick/Wilson publicity in all the magazines.

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Even their own coach is not impressed:

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Sam Bradford's new haircut receives mixed reviews. He was hoping to muscle in on the Kaepernick/Wilson publicity in all the magazines.

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That's not Sam you silly goose. Sam is number 8. That's the rookie R.J. Washington with his rookie hazing haircut.


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