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 Post subject: Jaworski's top 32 QB's
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:32 pm 
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He has only rated 13-32 so far and Wilson isn't listed.

2013 Jaworski QB Rankings
Rank QB QBR
13 Robert Griffin III 71.4
14 Jay Cutler 51.9
15 Tony Romo 62.7
16 Matthew Stafford 58.9
17 Philip Rivers 40.6
18 Cam Newton 54.2
19 Andy Dalton 50.7
20 Alex Smith 70.1
21 Josh Freeman 53.1
22 Sam Bradford 51.6
23 Carson Palmer 44.7
24 Ryan Tannehill 52.3
25 Michael Vick 46.0
26 Brandon Weeden 26.6
27 Christian Ponder 53.8
28 Mark Sanchez 23.4
29 Chad Henne 29.9
30 Kevin Kolb 38.0
31 Jake Locker 48.1
32 Matt Flynn 23.4

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 Post subject: Re: Jaworski's top 32 QB's
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I went ahead an made my own top 32, I though Jaws was off quite a bit towards the bottom

Rank QB QBR
1 A.Rodgers 72.5
2 T. Brady 77.1
3 P.Manning 84.1
4 D.Brees 67.9
5 R.Wilson 69.6
6 A.Luck 65
7 E. Manning 67.4
8 M. Ryan 74.5
9 Robert Griffin III 71.4
10 J.Flacco 46.8
11 B.Rapelisberger 62.8
12 C.Kupperdink 76.8
13 Tony Romo 62.7
14 Philip Rivers 40.6
15 Cam Newton 54.2
16 Matthew Stafford 58.9
17 Jay Cutler 51.9
18 M.Schaub 62.6
19 Andy Dalton 50.7
20 Josh Freeman 53.1
21 Sam Bradford 51.6
22 Michael Vick 46
23 Ryan Tannehill 52.3
24 Alex Smith 70.1
25 Jake Locker 48.1
26 Carson Palmer 44.7
27 Matt Flynn 23.4
28 Christian Ponder 53.8
29 Brandon Weeden 26.6
30 Mark Sanchez 23.4
31 Chad Henne 29.9
32 Kevin Kolb 38

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 Post subject: Re: Jaworski's top 32 QB's
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I am guessing he will go RW 12 and Kaepernick 11 and Luck 10


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 Post subject: Re: Jaworski's top 32 QB's
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I'm surprised he has Flynn at 32. I would put him about 25. But he has struggled in OTAs

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Makes sense. A guy who was handed a team with a solid winning record on a roll who's played nine games and a rookie who threw 18 interceptions. Logical in espns mind. What's new


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Makes sense. A guy who was handed a team with a solid winning record on a roll who's played nine games and a rookie who threw 18 interceptions. Logical in espns mind. What's new



If he has RW ahead of Rg3 I'm guessing he will have him ahead of Kaep. I'm just guessing though.


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I guarantee Kaep won't be ahead of RW on ANYONE'S qb rankings next year at this time.


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Makes sense. A guy who was handed a team with a solid winning record on a roll who's played nine games and a rookie who threw 18 interceptions. Logical in espns mind. What's new



If he has RW ahead of Rg3 I'm guessing he will have him ahead of Kaep. I'm just guessing though.


That I highly doubt. If Jaws is anything he's a "measurables" guy. Russell is too small to be above CK.

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I went ahead an made my own top 32, I though Jaws was off quite a bit towards the bottom

Rank QB QBR
1 A.Rodgers 72.5
2 T. Brady 77.1
3 P.Manning 84.1
4 D.Brees 67.9
5 R.Wilson 69.6
6 A.Luck 65
7 E. Manning 67.4
8 M. Ryan 74.5
9 Robert Griffin III 71.4
10 J.Flacco 46.8
11 B.Rapelisberger 62.8
12 C.Kupperdink 76.8
13 Tony Romo 62.7
14 Philip Rivers 40.6
15 Cam Newton 54.2
16 Matthew Stafford 58.9
17 Jay Cutler 51.9
18 M.Schaub 62.6
19 Andy Dalton 50.7
20 Josh Freeman 53.1
21 Sam Bradford 51.6
22 Michael Vick 46
23 Ryan Tannehill 52.3
24 Alex Smith 70.1
25 Jake Locker 48.1
26 Carson Palmer 44.7
27 Matt Flynn 23.4
28 Christian Ponder 53.8
29 Brandon Weeden 26.6
30 Mark Sanchez 23.4
31 Chad Henne 29.9
32 Kevin Kolb 38


IM sorry but lol at Big Ben at 11


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Jaws has always been infatuated with big armed, big QBs... he's never been high on Alex Smith, even when Alex was playing very well.

Just another talking head collecting a paycheck.


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Up until he got hurt, RG3 was the best QB in the NFL and a likely MVP candidate. Maybe he regresses this year, but having him outside the top 10 is silly.


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Up until he got hurt, RG3 was the best QB in the NFL and a likely MVP candidate. Maybe he regresses this year, but having him outside the top 10 is silly.

So tired of this opinion given he ran a trick offense and still got injured because of it and beat by Wilson head to head straight up while having homefield advantage in the playoffs.. Because od this he further behind Wilson than even. Kwapernot mark my words. Enough said.

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Up until he got hurt, RG3 was the best QB in the NFL and a likely MVP candidate. Maybe he regresses this year, but having him outside the top 10 is silly.

So tired of this opinion given he ran a trick offense and still got injured because of it and beat by Wilson head to head straight up while having homefield advantage in the playoffs.. Because od this he further behind Wilson than even. Kwapernot mark my words. Enough said.


You should just go watch all his games. RGIII is the real deal.

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kearly wrote:
Up until he got hurt, RG3 was the best QB in the NFL and a likely MVP candidate. Maybe he regresses this year, but having him outside the top 10 is silly.

So tired of this opinion given he ran a trick offense and still got injured because of it and beat by Wilson head to head straight up while having homefield advantage in the playoffs.. Because od this he further behind Wilson than even. Kwapernot mark my words. Enough said.


That trick offense got them into the playoffs, and came out of the gates swinging in our match up.. Keep in mind he played us on one leg and had his team up big at one point.. Don't discredit bob Griffin, he is that good.. I have no problem with anyone putting him ahead of RW at this point, Luck on the other hand, not yet...

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KCHawkGirl wrote:
kearly wrote:
Up until he got hurt, RG3 was the best QB in the NFL and a likely MVP candidate. Maybe he regresses this year, but having him outside the top 10 is silly.

So tired of this opinion given he ran a trick offense and still got injured because of it and beat by Wilson head to head straight up while having homefield advantage in the playoffs.. Because od this he further behind Wilson than even. Kwapernot mark my words. Enough said.


I've never understood this argument.

QB's are never on the field against each other.

Lesser QB's on better teams beat better QB's on lesser teams all the time.

And with that said, both should be top-10 QB's for the next decade.

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There is no way Weeden is that high at 26.


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kearly wrote:
Up until he got hurt, RG3 was the best QB in the NFL and a likely MVP candidate. Maybe he regresses this year, but having him outside the top 10 is silly.

So tired of this opinion given he ran a trick offense and still got injured because of it and beat by Wilson head to head straight up while having homefield advantage in the playoffs.. Because od this he further behind Wilson than even. Kwapernot mark my words. Enough said.


That trick offense got them into the playoffs, and came out of the gates swinging in our match up.. Keep in mind he played us on one leg and had his team up big at one point.. Don't discredit bob Griffin, he is that good.. I have no problem with anyone putting him ahead of RW at this point, Luck on the other hand, not yet...


Agreed...

...and both Wilson and Kaep ran versions of that exact same offense BTW. So........

Granted, nobody ran it as often as Washington did....but still.

RGIII was hurt coming into the game, hurt it worse early on, and then shredded the thing late.

Not really a fair comparison to a healthy Wilson.


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kearly wrote:
Up until he got hurt, RG3 was the best QB in the NFL and a likely MVP candidate. Maybe he regresses this year, but having him outside the top 10 is silly.

So tired of this opinion given he ran a trick offense and still got injured because of it and beat by Wilson head to head straight up while having homefield advantage in the playoffs.. Because od this he further behind Wilson than even. Kwapernot mark my words. Enough said.


You should just go watch all his games. RGIII is the real deal.


Absolutely. I watched his games last year since there was value for the Rams to each game the Skins lost. He is amazing, and just pleasure to watch. I found myself not being able to root against him.

Personally, I hope the Skins do not do well this year. After that, I hope he becomes one of the best QBs we've seen.

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The thing about this season is we are going to see who's the real deal among the "young 5" no excuses, no pass go this time. I believe RG3 is supremely talented but has to change his approach if he wants his second contract.

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So tired of this opinion given he ran a trick offense and still got injured because of it and beat by Wilson head to head straight up while having homefield advantage in the playoffs.. Because od this he further behind Wilson than even. Kwapernot mark my words. Enough said.


You should just go watch all his games. RGIII is the real deal.


Absolutely. I watched his games last year since there was value for the Rams to each game the Skins lost. He is amazing, and just pleasure to watch. I found myself not being able to root against him.

Personally, I hope the Skins do not do well this year. After that, I hope he becomes one of the best QBs we've seen.

I look at the haul the rams got for trading with the Skins and now think it was not enough. Imagine RGIII a Ram? The west would be sick.

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I look at the haul the rams got for trading with the Skins and now think it was not enough. Imagine RGIII a Ram? The west would be sick.

I concur.

The Lambs were in a no-win situation with Bradford's contract.

There is no way that they could have traded him. Who would have wanted him with his salary and his mediocre production?

Fortunately for the Hawks, the Lambs traded away the pick to the Redskins.

And yes, they got a helluva haul so let's hope the Lambs swing and miss on those extra draft picks.

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I look at the haul the rams got for trading with the Skins and now think it was not enough. Imagine RGIII a Ram? The west would be sick.

I concur.

The Lambs were in a no-win situation with Bradford's contract.

There is no way that they could have traded him. Who would have wanted him with his salary and his mediocre production?

Fortunately for the Hawks, the Lambs traded away the pick to the Redskins.

And yes, they got a helluva haul so let's hope the Lambs swing and miss on those extra draft picks.


Agree with everything here.

Plus, both Wilson and Kaep are on talented and balanced teams without glaring roster holes. RG3 would've gone to a very weak Rams team, who is only now starting to fill out it's roster even with the extra picks. Better for him to be in DC.

The value of the trade won't be know for a few more years. I choose not to worry about it or think what if.

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