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Not what I was hoping for... :|

... I guess our Lemonier pick becomes significantly more important now. Smashing a beer bottle over a teammates head that's trying to stop you from drunk driving is really f*cking low.


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You won't get a double standard from me, his behavior was inappropriate and stupid.

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No doubt, the dude was trying to HELP this thug. WTH is wrong with these NFL players??? It's just getting out of control.

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No doubt, the dude was trying to HELP this thug. WTH is wrong with these NFL players??? It's just getting out of control.


Agreed. I am tired of hearing about all these shenanigans from players across the league, Seahawks included. Granted, it's not like this is new behavior; it's just that now every single little thing is reported. It wasn't that way even 5-6 years ago. I blame Twitter. :)

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No doubt, the dude was trying to HELP this thug. WTH is wrong with these NFL players??? It's just getting out of control.


Agreed. I am tired of hearing about all these shenanigans from players across the league, Seahawks included. Granted, it's not like this is new behavior; it's just that now every single little thing is reported. It wasn't that way even 5-6 years ago. I blame Twitter. :)



Agreed x2

When Twitter first launched, I looked at that and thought "this is trouble" and that was in reference to the tech world. Then normal people got a hold of it and worse, sports figures.

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Divens did the right thing, no matter the risk to himself. Kudos to him from the family he spared from the potential heartache. Whenever you dare to courageously intervene... the nobility far outweighs the potential consequences - but, usually there's not time to weigh it out.

As far as Brooks' actions... yup, that's alcohol impairing perhaps otherwise better judgment. He's responsible, though, no doubt. Or, rather, irresponsible.

So... does this mean immediate dismissal from the team? Wasn't that the solution given for the previous player that did something? Or, was that a bunch of hogwash?

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Of course, no mention of it on ESPN yet.


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From the article: Then, higher ranking officials in the prosecutor’s office intervened. A debate has unfolded over the question of whether Brooks should be charged with a felony or a misdemeanor — or possibly not at all.

So let me get this straight, if this was anyone else, felony charges would of been filed and processed accordingly, but because Brooks is part of the steller 49r LB core, we're going to discuss what impact this will have on the team then make a decision as to if formal charges will be pursued.

Ok, I understand! :141847_bnono:

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What a flippen joke. Why would there be a debate for ANYONE? Oh wait, the 49ers player must be on the field.

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It should be a felony due to a beer bottle should be taken as a weapon. If it was you or I it would be a felony. No debate needed even for a member of the stellar 49ers LB core. Which for the record there has been many many nfl players that should have been charged with felonies that were not.


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And here's Brooks #55 playing drunk...


The soundtrack to that is priceless.

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From the article: Then, higher ranking officials in the prosecutor’s office intervened. A debate has unfolded over the question of whether Brooks should be charged with a felony or a misdemeanor — or possibly not at all.

So let me get this straight, if this was anyone else, felony charges would of been filed and processed accordingly, but because Brooks is part of the steller 49r LB core, we're going to discuss what impact this will have on the team then make a decision as to if formal charges will be pursued.

Ok, I understand! :141847_bnono:


Only thing I can think of is that it is due to the fact that Divens changed his mind about filing charges.

I'm not a lawyer, but if there is no plaintiff then the case probably looks pretty weak.

At least that's how it works on "Law and Order" all the time. ;)

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Damn.... There are very few reasons I could think of that would prompt me to beat on ANYONE with a bottle. That is some cold shit!

Well, as we know... The offseason is long and these guys are basically kids inside the body of trained monsters. I'm actually quite surprised that Brooks wasn't also charged with being offsides while beating the victim. :)

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You're probably right but fact is he deserves some form of punishment.

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Per the report, Brooks yelled to Divens while striking him, “Do I need to get my [expletive] gun?”


I wonder if he has any selfies with his [expletive] gun on his phone?

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From the article: Then, higher ranking officials in the prosecutor’s office intervened. A debate has unfolded over the question of whether Brooks should be charged with a felony or a misdemeanor — or possibly not at all.

So let me get this straight, if this was anyone else, felony charges would of been filed and processed accordingly, but because Brooks is part of the steller 49r LB core, we're going to discuss what impact this will have on the team then make a decision as to if formal charges will be pursued.

Ok, I understand! :141847_bnono:


Only thing I can think of is that it is due to the fact that Divens changed his mind about filing charges.

I'm not a lawyer, but if there is no plaintiff then the case probably looks pretty weak.

At least that's how it works on "Law and Order" all the time. ;)


According to NFL.com, the prosecutors were ready to move forward without Livens' help. They got a signed arrest warrant from the court, even after he backed out.

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Even without Divens' support, prosecutors submitted an application Thursday to Judge Sharon Chatman seeking an arrest warrant on a felony assault charge with great bodily injury. A judge signed the warrant, but a day later higher-ranking officials decided to put a hold on the case.


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Authorities get arrest warrant for 49ers' Ahmad Brooks

Anybody else have a bit of schadenfreude?


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I wonder how many Niners players have magically had charges dropped over the years???
Not that it would ever be brought up thru the media. They're too busy dry humping the Niners.

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I think that's a fair question to be asked about players on a lot of teams in all college/professional sports..

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I wonder how many Niners players have magically had charges dropped over the years???
Not that it would ever be brought up thru the media. They're too busy dry humping the Niners.


Feels like this wouldn't have even been reported had the "higher ups" been able to put a stop to it before the arrest warrant was applied for.


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I whacked someone over the head with a beer bottle once, but only because he was beating the life out of his brother in the midst of a serious meth rage.

On the other hand, assaulting your teammate for trying to save your ass? Dude needs to stay away from the firewater.


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The Prosecutor knows that any more unforeseen roster hits to the local franchise would be devastating to the performance of the team. So he has adjusted the threshold of tolerance to ensure consistency on the defense, which was suspect nearing the end of the season.

John Moffitt gets drunk, pisses in public, gets charged and has a suspended sentence with Niner fans ridiculing him for the event. Brooks BEATS THE SHIT out of another man's head with a bottle and the Prosecutor buries the case.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!! You go SF! Keep up the stellar work off the field and while you are at it Niner fans, make sure you complain about a few PED suspensions. GREAT stuff!

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Loaf, you can't be surprised, can you? Look at all the Bay-area corruption during the 49ers glory years. It's their "culture of winning" philosophy, as best I can tell. :)

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Loaf, you can't be surprised, can you? Look at all the Bay-area corruption during the 49ers glory years. It's their "culture of winning" philosophy, as best I can tell. :)



Actually, I really thought all that was behind them, but the 2 degrees of separation from Eddie D. puts it in a whole new perspective. Before it was just the manipulation of money, now they can include the manipulation of public officials. Seriously....

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Just heard that the DA's office revoked the arrest warrant. Go f'in figure.

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loaf what niner fan on this forum backed brooks? None and from reading niner sites no one is backing him there either. The man deserves prison plain and simple. And no one even brought PED's in this thread


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Funny just read an article yesterday about how teams have security people that try to make sure cases don't make it to court / dropped. Then an NFL spokesperson commented that it was not true and it was against league rule.......

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loaf what niner fan on this forum backed brooks? None and from reading niner sites no one is backing him there either. The man deserves prison plain and simple. And no one even brought PED's in this thread


My niner buddy did when I posted the article on his FB page...although he didn't support Brooks' action

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What ever niner fan that backs Brooks is a complete moron. Its assault no other way around it.


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Of course, no mention of it on ESPN yet.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=9448167

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I thought Niner fans would just refer to this as a "night out"


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I thought Niner fans would just refer to this as a "night out"


There wasn't forced sex involved.

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Well guess what Mikeak your wrong. This is not even right. A teammate does the correct thing to keep your ass from killing some innocent people and you crack him in the head, and he threatens to shoot him. Wrong major wrong. Mods if some people insist on taking this to areas that are not needed. Why not just move this thread to the shack. Where they will be able to speak their mind. Since to them every niner fan is gay, or a rapist


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I thought Niner fans would just refer to this as a "night out"


There wasn't forced sex involved.


LOL -- I think you misread the article Big Ben was not involved in this incident :)


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E.C. Laloosh wrote:
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Of course, no mention of it on ESPN yet.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=9448167


It was on the sidebar and they talked about it on NFL Live today and NFL 32...

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I like it that whitner is spouting off about the ineptitude of the wr corps and he wants the niners to sign T.O. or Chad Johnson... it's all coming apart down there.


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Well guess what Mikeak your wrong. This is not even right. A teammate does the correct thing to keep your ass from killing some innocent people and you crack him in the head, and he threatens to shoot him. Wrong major wrong. Mods if some people insist on taking this to areas that are not needed. Why not just move this thread to the shack. Where they will be able to speak their mind. Since to them every niner fan is gay, or a rapist


Get riled up much? Nothing in my original post that makes it go to the shack if a rib-jabbing joke can't be made then to me the reader is to sensitive to be using the internet.


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Bunch of no good, dirty, drunks.

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rib-jabbing is not a problem. It just gets old to the niner fans that dont start crap. Not riled up at all.


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I like it that whitner is spouting off about the ineptitude of the wr corps and he wants the niners to sign T.O. or Chad Johnson... it's all coming apart down there.


That's a little too much wishful thinking LOL.

Giving respect to veteran WR's in no way imply what you said.

Talk about reading between the lines and trying to :stirthepot:

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If Divens backs out, I hope Goodell suspends him for at least 4 games. Because basically he would be condoning that kind of behavoir. I see it all the time with domestic violence, somebody calls, the Troopers show up and no one wants to press charges. Ridiculous.

Brooks needs a year suspension if for no other reason than that he threatened to go get his gun. That to me is crossing the line because it indicates 1. He has a gun and 2. when he is drunk, he would consider using it. Enough of this shit, if a PED charge requires a 4 game suspension, then any kind of violence requires 8 games, minimum.

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I am having a hard time not thinking that Brooks should get a serious suspension. I can see a case for the 4 game type, but this dude did physical harm with a flipping bottle. It IS a big deal. If a player gets suspended for substance abuse, it should at least be more than that length.

There aren't a bunch of Niner fans supporting it, for that I have to give them credit, but there are some minimizing it on their forums and claiming it isn't as bad as PED use. There are also plenty arguing that statement too.

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If Divens backs out, I hope Goodell suspends him for at least 4 games. Because basically he would be condoning that kind of behavoir. I see it all the time with domestic violence, somebody calls, the Troopers show up and no one wants to press charges. Ridiculous.

Brooks needs a year suspension if for no other reason than that he threatened to go get his gun. That to me is crossing the line because it indicates 1. He has a gun and 2. when he is drunk, he would consider using it. Enough of this shit, if a PED charge requires a 4 game suspension, then any kind of violence requires 8 games, minimum.



There is nothing wrong with having a gun, but anyone that says "do I need to get my gun" shouldn't have one.

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I suppose the scary part to me is that like PED use, their is going to be players on every team that have this level of responsibility.

I wonder how many players on the Hawks roster are packing with attitude.

Guys like Bill Romanowski come to mind. That dude was GONE.

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I like it that whitner is spouting off about the ineptitude of the wr corps and he wants the niners to sign T.O. or Chad Johnson... it's all coming apart down there.


That's a little too much wishful thinking LOL.

Giving respect to veteran WR's in no way imply what you said.

Talk about reading between the lines and trying to :stirthepot:


Yeah... That never happens when the conversation involves Niner and Seahawk fans. :-)

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When one represents a company - they do so while at work and on their own time (like it or not.) Especially if something is done in the public eye that reflects poorly on the company. So, I can definitely see the rationale for a suspension. I know as Seahawks fans we would like to see that just because. Still, in all honesty... if the league is going to be consistent in sending messages of what is not tolerable representation as an employee... it would be a joke of inconsistency if they do not suspend the guy.

If the Niners are as upright as their fans on this board say they are... the organization should also tack on further team suspension and fines. Divens was in a tough spot. If he pressed charges... of course it was cause harm to both of their careers - namely his.

Don't count on the 49ers being such the upright organization that the Niner fans say they are when they got rid of a previous, less valuable player. Obviously they're not going to cut a key player - especially if this is his first offense. But, the league has a no tolerance policy. Also, Harbaugh is going to have to start eating his words and worry about reeling in his own team instead of badmouthing other teams in the media.

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Think about it like this.

If this exact same thing happened to a Seahawk, how would Niner fans react?

A large portion of the Niners fanbase lusts for negative Seahawk news. Don't you think they deserve a little attention from the 12's?

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 Post subject: Re: SF Fans can shut up about our teams problems now
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We all know why Divens didn't press charges. He is protecting his relationship with the team. If he pushed it, this guy could put Brooks in the pen. With recent events, having this sort of problem gets looked at even more than normal. In fact, the league and the Niners FO knows full well what happened even if charges aren't pursued.

I just wonder how long they will carry him before they find him expendable. If Harbafreak or the Niners don't address it in some way, Jimmy Massengill is going to look pretty stupid for giving attention outside his own team.

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 Post subject: Re: SF Fans can shut up about our teams problems now
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Loaf I agree. I believe STRICT punishment is needed. Its never ok to do and say what he did. Goddell needs to throw the hammer down. And so does Jim. This from what i believe is not the first time of assult charges. I just can not remember when or who.


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