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Meh, even if it's manslaughter, his career is over. Hell, if it's only obstruction of justice, his career's over. We're never seeing another Hernandez catch in the NFL.

I wonder how many furious Patriots fans threw away Hernandez jerseys this morning? I feel sick to my stomach even thinking about this series of events happening to a Seahawk like Wilson, Sherman, Thomas, or Tate, for example.



There's a type of person who does this. The recent SI report said he had gang affiliations, which was one of the reasons he slipped to the 4th round. I highly doubt Wilson, Sherman, Thomas, or Tate would do something like that... they don't seem like the thug type. Plus, even if they did something like this, they're probably smarter than Hernandez and get someone from their crew to do something, not themselves. Hernandez is stupid on so many levels.


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At the very least....at least Hernandez didn't murder a pregnant woman. That's what Carruth did and then hid from the police in the trunk of a car. If I recall correctly the child lived but has brain damage.

I ain't defending Hernandez by any stretch, but Carruth will reside on a different plane of Hell.


You are correct - I knew about the pregancy and the surviving baby but didn't know about the brain damage. Googled it and this article had a picture (ignore the source etc) -- http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/21/nfl- ... execution/

My point wasn't that the one is worse than the others. They are both murderers. My point was that unfortunately we end up remembering those who were famous and committed their crime while the victims memories fade away. Example - what was the name of Jovan Belcher's girlfriend?..................


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He has the dream team of defense attorneys, i have a very strong feeling that he isn't going to be charged for murder.


He has already been charged. He is going to fry.

Mass. doesn't have the death penalty. Now if you meant he'll fry in the figurative sense then yeah, looks like that'll be the case.

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Am I the only one laughing at him? Just curious.


Ray Lewis is laughing at him.

And at least he didn't kill a dog, so he's got that going for him.

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its truly sad that somebody with the gifts he has that his fucked up brain has screwed up


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Further evidence that the thug life is, indeed, overrated.

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well at least he should have a lot of money to put on his books for commissary.. That prison food is nasty!!!

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I think we can all safely assume this isn't the first guy Hernandez has killed. Between this and him shooting that other guy in the arm.


Eye, he shot the other guys eye out. The only reason that guy didn't identify Herndumbz is because he wanted money out of him. "You can have my eye, just give me some money and we're cool." If that idiot would have pressed charges, Loyd would probably be alive today.

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At the very least....at least Hernandez didn't murder a pregnant woman. That's what Carruth did and then hid from the police in the trunk of a car. If I recall correctly the child lived but has brain damage.

I ain't defending Hernandez by any stretch, but Carruth will reside on a different plane of Hell.


You are correct - I knew about the pregancy and the surviving baby but didn't know about the brain damage. Googled it and this article had a picture (ignore the source etc) -- http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/21/nfl- ... execution/

My point wasn't that the one is worse than the others. They are both murderers. My point was that unfortunately we end up remembering those who were famous and committed their crime while the victims memories fade away. Example - what was the name of Jovan Belcher's girlfriend?..................


Very true. Sad. I don't remember who died in the Ray Lewis case either.

At least Jovan saved the taxpayers the expense of putting him in jail for the rest of his life.


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I saw that. I know he's a Niner and that isn't popoular...but it does show the difference between character issues and injury issues.

Both these guys were taken in a similar spot in the draft.

Give me the injured guy over the character concern any day of the week.


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Am I the only one laughing at him? Just curious.


Ray Lewis is laughing at him.

And at least he didn't kill a dog, so he's got that going for him.


If he'd killed a dog, he's be back in the NFL in a few years.

Now? Not so much. :D


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If he'd killed a dog, he's be back in the NFL in a few years.

Now? Not so much. :D


As opposed to guys like Leonard Little who killed a person, and were right back in the NFL right away.

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If he'd killed a dog, he's be back in the NFL in a few years.

Now? Not so much. :D


As opposed to guys like Leonard Little who killed a person, and were right back in the NFL right away.


....touche.

OK, he's scum too. :D

Even worse....he got hit on a DUI AFTER he killed someone drunk driving.


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It's unfathomable how people treat Ray Lewis like a hero, but Michael Vick is picketed, protested and looked upon as a heathen. Imagine if Vick would have killed somebody with his car while drinking...who would the victim be?

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Imagine if Vick would have killed somebody with his car while drinking...who would the victim be?


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So all-prison team in order SHOULD include

Caruth
Tenatively Hernandez
Little
Ray Lewis
Stallworth
Ausar Walcott (LB Brown Unsigned rookie arrested today for attempted murder)

Marvin Harrison had the shooting that never got nailed on him guess he doesn't go on the list

who am I missing?

And in regards to Hernandez other shooting. The guy was shot in the arm and the bullet travelled up and took out his sight in one eye so you were both right


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Anyone else getting the vibe Hernandez was part of or running a little side business maybe tied to his gang roots? I just can't figure out why else he would do what he did the way he did.

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Anyone else getting the vibe Hernandez was part of or running a little side business maybe tied to his gang roots? I just can't figure out why else he would do what he did the way he did.


I saw a tweet where they sad he had the word "blood" on his hand, take it for whatever you want as it was only a tweet.

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Anyone else getting the vibe Hernandez was part of or running a little side business maybe tied to his gang roots? I just can't figure out why else he would do what he did the way he did.

I am now... On video saying he doesn't know who he can trust now. Then rolling with an armed entourage to kill one man.
And the victim telling his girlfriend he's with 'NFL.... Just saying.....'

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So all-prison team in order SHOULD include

Caruth
Tenatively Hernandez
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Ausar Walcott (LB Brown Unsigned rookie arrested today for attempted murder)

Marvin Harrison had the shooting that never got nailed on him guess he doesn't go on the list

who am I missing?

And in regards to Hernandez other shooting. The guy was shot in the arm and the bullet travelled up and took out his sight in one eye so you were both right


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Does Plaxico even count? I mean the guy chedder bobbed himself.

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Does Plaxico even count? I mean the guy chedder bobbed himself.

And is he good enough for the all prison team?

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Scottie, I just can't imagine he'd be so stupid to do what he did, AND how he did it just because some supposed "problem" with the guy. It almost has to be something more. But.....don't underestimate the idiocy of some of these asshats either.

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They're saying he did it because the victim, was talking to some people at a club that Hernandez didn't particularly like. This whole thing is sounding juvenile as hell, you are a multimillionaire, living the dream, playing a game that you more than likely love, how do you keep these kinds of people are around you? How do you put yourself in a situation to possibly even be affiliated with them in more ways than just a friendship?

I don't think I'll ever understand that line of thinking, once you get out why would you look back???

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Something doesn't add up; anyone with a brain wouldn't plant a dead body a mile from their house in a rental car in their name.


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Scottie, I just can't imagine he'd be so stupid to do what he did, AND how he did it just because some supposed "problem" with the guy. It almost has to be something more. But.....don't underestimate the idiocy of some of these asshats either.

Well in Vick's case- I believe it was guys he grew up with that wanted help financing the operation. Also very poor judgement skills are involved.

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Something doesn't add up; anyone with a brain wouldn't plant a dead body a mile from their house in a rental car in their name.


That's your problem. Probably wasn't thinking properly/at all when it occurred. As to covering it up, I'm not too sure, he may just not be the brightest of criminals.

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Something doesn't add up; anyone with a brain wouldn't plant a dead body a mile from their house in a rental car in their name.

Sounds like more of an escalating lifestyle that he's gotten used to. Heard he had another gun incident as a teen. Multiple drug incidents. The shooting this past February, etc. He probably feels invincible and thinks he's above the law since he didn't really face any repercussions from those incidents.


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Something doesn't add up; anyone with a brain wouldn't plant a dead body a mile from their house in a rental car in their name.


He was found outside the rental car on the ground from everything I have read. Same point though, it seems odd that it was near him unless that was the car he was using for personal use.


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H4WKSF4N wrote:
Something doesn't add up; anyone with a brain wouldn't plant a dead body a mile from their house in a rental car in their name.


Most murderers are that dumb and leave a trail of evidence a blind man could follow. The clever killers who require brilliant detective work to uncover are mostly found on TV shows and are the exception rather than the norm in real life.

OJ Simpson literally left a trail of blood from the crime scene, to his car, and upstairs right into his bedroom. He was smart enough and rich enough, though, to hire expensive lawyers who could nullify the jury by cynically putting the LAPD on trial instead.


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They're saying he did it because the victim, was talking to some people at a club that Hernandez didn't particularly like. This whole thing is sounding juvenile as hell, you are a multimillionaire, living the dream, playing a game that you more than likely love, how do you keep these kinds of people are around you? How do you put yourself in a situation to possibly even be affiliated with them in more ways than just a friendship?

I don't think I'll ever understand that line of thinking, once you get out why would you look back???


What it sounded like to me is that Hernandez may have been doing what the ex-Cowboy was doing in Chicago. The whole walking through the crib with his handgun talking about not being able to trust anyone moments after the killing makes me think this was more than just you speaking with folks I have beef with. Some media types from his neck of the woods are claiming Hernandez had recruited some folks from his old crew to come take care of Lloyd. Innocent until proven guilty but there are a lot of moving parts that makes no sense.

$40M, do you really need to keep hustling and beefing with folks? Get rid of the old crew and just accept being a square. Street cred isn't worth the mythical paper it is written on.

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the whole walking through the crib with his handgun talking about not being able to trust anyone moments after the killing .


I thought that happened before the man was killed. That makes a difference right?

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After days of secrecy in the closely watched investigation, the prosecutor's comments in court provided the first detailed account of Lloyd's killing and the evidence detectives have uncovered.
A jogger found Lloyd's body, riddled with gunshot wounds, in a secluded area of an industrial park near Hernandez's house June 17, McCauley said.
Investigators later found five shell casings at the scene. Inside his pocket, McCauley said, they found a wallet and keys to a car that Hernandez had rented.
Around 2:30 a.m. that same day, the prosecutor said, Lloyd was last seen leaving his Boston home with Hernandez in a silver Nissan Altima.
Less than an hour later, surveillance cameras at the North Attleborough industrial park showed the vehicle heading toward the remote area where Lloyd's body was later found, McCauley said.
"The car goes down there at 3:22," McCauley said. "Four minutes later, the car is visible again. During the interval between 3:23 and 3:27, people who were working the overnight shift hear gunshots."
Minutes later, surveillance video from Hernandez's home security system shows the former NFL player arriving back at his house with two other people, according to the district attorney. Hernandez appears to be holding a firearm, McCauley said.
"The defendant goes walking through the house with the gun in his hand. That is captured in the video. ... And they all go down to the basement," McCauley said. "Once in the basement, the surveillance gets shut off."
McCauley said the gun Hernandez was carrying in the surveillance video has not been found.

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Who's surveillance was it that he was caught walking into his home with a firearm?


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The car was not found next to the body. Hernandez returned the car to the rental company, and exchanged it for another. The original rental car, when being inspected, was found to have a mirror broken off. Hernandez said he didn't know how that happened.

Then, during cleaning of the rental, a shell casing and the gum was found underneath the driver's seat. The employee threw both away, and after being interviewed, cops retrieved both pieces of evidence from the dumpster.


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Who's surveillance was it that he was caught walking into his home with a firearm?


Both the neighborhood video, and the home surveillance video that Hernandez tried to destroy. Like I said, he's a dumbass, thinking they couldn't still retrieve the video.


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I read that too but what do you think he means by that?

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Bruce Irvin of the Seahawks:

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Right! RT @Os_Island: In the court of law you're innocent until proven guilty.... In the streets you're guilty until proven innocent.

https://twitter.com/BIrvin_WVU11


I read that too but what do you think he means by that?


That he isn't a very intelligent guy.


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Would it be bad taste for me to buy a Hernandez jersey and start wearing it work?


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Man what a tool. All I can think of is Dave Chappelle's " keeping it real" skits. If he didn't pull the trigger, hell, if he was just there he deserves what he is now going to experience. I have been around this animalistic reality and the guys that follow it are just that, animals. Below human in my opinion. To bad it didn't happen in a death penalty state. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Ray Lewis out of his ass and walk then become a preacher and portray himself as a role model to kids. Weak minded, no morals.. man, this kind of stuff pisses me off.

Before someone gets on the soapbox, the facts are the facts. Even if one of his buddies did the dirty work he was still there. How many of you guys have close buddies that would do what was done to the deceased for what has been mentioned as motive? What would the motive have to be for you to defend your buddies? My 21 year old nephew just came back from Afghanistan, did a year and a half on the ground in the Army, knocking on doors and interacting with the citizens. He reassured me that humans are still humans Saturday when I hung out with him again. People like this do not deserve to ever be a part of society.


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He should be put away just for having rivets in his shirt.



Damn thugs and their lack of gun safety. Never touch the trigger unless you are actively shooting!

I blame it on Hollywood, they always show people running, jumping, etc with a finger inside the trigger guard. Pulp Fiction would be the obvious exception :twisted:


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