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Teams have taken measures to improve the atmosphere. The 49ers have had police go undercover as opposing teams' fans in an effort to crack down on the abuse. I would still advise against taking small children to a game in most cases.


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Your right. That was a Sando statement. Guess the quote should be edited.


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Well it's not a secret that 49ers fans are scumbags. Personally, I've never seen anything inappropriate occur at C-Link beyond a few curse words and your average, sporting-event typical drunkenness.

One guy I met who was a Cowboys fan said that someone poured a beer on his wife -- but I don't trust him at all, and seriously doubt that was the whole story.

Anyone ever have any problems either at C-Link or anywhere else?


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I've never had any problems. And I started taking all 3 of my nephews to Seahawk games when they were in kindergarten and never thought twice about it.

But I have seen dozens of fights over the years and countless seahawk fans going over the top in ridiculing opponents (as well as countless opposition fans going over the top back at us). We have our share of idiots just like every stadium does. Although I would guess there are quite a few stadiums that have a much higher percentage of a'holes then we do.

Personally, I don't get it. It's pretty damn stupid to hate somebody because they like a different team then you do.

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I've been to 2 games at the 'Stick, and there were some fans that were way too rowdy and even abusive. Honestly, I'm hoping that the new stadium with the increased ticket prices will keep those sh*tty people from affording tickets. I realize this is a socioeconomic issue, but you don't see the middle-class family fans doing this sh*t.

But if you guys think all 49er fans are scumbags because of a few, then you're mistaken. I will say, if you are an opposing fan, don't try and provoke drunk *ssholes. Just like if you go to a Raider game and start talking sh*t.

Still hoping the new stadium economy will fix this issue. Football is supposed to be entertainment, not something you need to fear for yourself and friends/family.


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When I went to Ford Field, I was really impressed with their security there. I remember a drunk fool throwing peanut shells at Hawk fans and a security guy telling them very sternly that they were "out" if they kept it up. They stopped and there were no more incidents.


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I've been to the Stick with no issue. I guess the bigger the crowd the more likely someone in it will pop off and disturb the locals.


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Things are way better since leaving the AFCW and not having Raider fans at the dome. I literally used to prepare for battle in those days.

I have personally only seen drunken banter, very few fights that actually got going since. Although, the 2004 Monday night game against Dallas, we actually came across a Cowboys fan lying in the fetal position near an exit. He was either really drunk or someone just kicked his ass.

I would take my kids to Clink as an opponents fan before I would most any stadium I have been to.

My worst experience was at the coliseum in the 80's. Some fellow Navy gents and I wore Seahawks gear there and I think we are lucky to be alive. That game was for the division in week 16 and was a barn burner. We used to go to San Diego for the Hawks road games too, very short trip from the base and those were very timid fans.

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Bottom line is, when you go to someone else's arena, you are going into their house: don't act like a jackass, and don't be obnoxious. Root for your team all you want, but don't rub it in -- particularly if your team just won the game. Also, and this needs to be said, control your drunken friend and/or girlfriend/spouse/female companion.

The last fight I've ever gotten into was in the 8th grade and I intend to keep it that way.


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I've actually never seen a real fight at the Clink, idiots squaring off, but no blows. Drunks going over board, usually security is called and they get escorted out.

The swearing bothers me sometimes when I have my kid, but other than that, not too bad.

Honestly the worst thing I saw was back on '05, two drunks were sitting a row below us and to the side, 2 young women were sitting right beside my wife and I, behind the two drunks. All 4 of them obviously had been pre-funking A LOT. At first we thought they all knew each other. But as the game went on the two guys started getting really 'handsy' turning around and groping them, it was freaking bizarre. The girls were playing it off well, several times I would say knock it off, push their hands away, tell them to chill. Finally a guy behind them asked if they wanted security, they said yes. An usher waited several rows up and watched, sure enough they did it again and bam, 2 minutes later about 4 sheriffs were there and tossed the guys. Frackin' idiots.

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But if you guys think all 49er fans are scumbags because of a few, then you're mistaken.


Nobody's saying that, but I have said before that there's strong evidence that 49ers fans that attend the games have a higher violence/douchebag ratio than average.

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If you have 67,000 people in one place and 66,950 are having fun and maintaining good behavior your doing well, the 50 people that can't handle alcohal, want to be abusive and create physical confrontations are a small percentage. They are always there and are always the ones that create the headlines and police blotters. Those 50 also create a reputation for the other 66,950 fans. Key is just to identify them before it becomes an issue, do this also without changeing the atmosphere of the games no matter where they are at.

If they just had a stadium number attending fans could call when at games to bring security to a location I think it would help a lot, call it an application for a cell phone where you just dial the number and then enter seat location something of that nature. Concourse's typically have a lot of security around anyway and around the stadium. With the application that just requires a seat entry you don't have to talk it's fast and nobody knows your calling.

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But if you guys think all 49er fans are scumbags because of a few, then you're mistaken.


Nobody's saying that, but I have said before that there's strong evidence that 49ers fans that attend the games have a higher violence/douchebag ratio than average.


Honestly, I can't argue with that :|


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I've never had any problems. And I started taking all 3 of my nephews to Seahawk games when they were in kindergarten and never thought twice about it.

But I have seen dozens of fights over the years and countless seahawk fans going over the top in ridiculing opponents (as well as countless opposition fans going over the top back at us). We have our share of idiots just like every stadium does. Although I would guess there are quite a few stadiums that have a much higher percentage of a'holes then we do.

Personally, I don't get it. It's pretty damn stupid to hate somebody because they like a different team then you do.

Might want to run that last sentence by your fellow quack fans in Eugene sometime...... :stirthepot:

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When I went to Ford Field, I was really impressed with their security there. I remember a drunk fool throwing peanut shells at Hawk fans and a security guy telling them very sternly that they were "out" if they kept it up. They stopped and there were no more incidents.


Clink should hire the peanut guy from the old Mariners games to fling them at 49ers heads from the stands. Hahah :sarcasm_off:

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My dad and I have had Niner season tickets for 19 years. No question the crowd has changed. Every primetime game has at least one fight that I can see from my section. It may sound stereotypical, but the ticket prices being low have allowed some thuggish types to go to games and they are usually really drunk.

I definitely think the new stadium and the rise in ticket prices, as well as the new location, will cure most if not all of the problems. Games in the 90s were not a problem, in part because the team was perennially good and the tickets were much harder to get. I think the same thing will happen in Santa Clara. Plus there will be a much larger corporate presence in the new stadium.


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I've lived in soCal for 6 years and have had no interest in going up to SF for a game, even though I know it would be a great game to watch. Too many bad stories. Just not worth it. My wife absolutely refuses to go regardless... really annoying that the only games I can see live are the Chargers preseason games


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I've lived in soCal for 6 years and have had no interest in going up to SF for a game, even though I know it would be a great game to watch. Too many bad stories. Just not worth it. My wife absolutely refuses to go regardless... really annoying that the only games I can see live are the Chargers preseason games



I have been to several SF games and the stadium keeps me from going back. I've never had an issue at all. I sit in decent seats and mind my own business. I also watch my intake and never get drunk. (as opposed to jome games at Clink.)


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[quote="Stephen SeaHawking"]Well it's not a secret that 49ers fans are scumbags. Personally, I've never seen anything inappropriate occur at C-Link beyond a few curse words and your average, sporting-event typical drunkenness.

One guy I met who was a Cowboys fan said that someone poured a beer on his wife -- but I don't trust him at all, and seriously doubt that was the whole story.

Anyone ever have any problems either at C-Link or anywhere else?[/quote

49er fans are no better or worse than Hawk fans or any other fans, we all have our assholes. You put together two opposing teams, add alcohol......bingo, instant assholes.

If you have never seen anything inapproriate occur at "The Clink" maybe you should try Youtube or better yet wear the opposing teams jersey to the game. I think you will be shocked at some of the things you hear, and that how it is in every stadium, people are getting out of hand.

Personally I love the trash talking, it's what makes the game so much fun, but there is a limit. No one should have to worry about taking their young children or spouses to a game. I think if we all try to check ourselves and our own fans the whole experience will be more enjoyable for all.

And forgive me for saying so, but it's just a game, not worth loosing teeth over, or spending the night in jail for.


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Well it's not a secret that 49ers fans are scumbags. Personally, I've never seen anything inappropriate occur at C-Link beyond a few curse words and your average, sporting-event typical drunkenness.

One guy I met who was a Cowboys fan said that someone poured a beer on his wife -- but I don't trust him at all, and seriously doubt that was the whole story.

Anyone ever have any problems either at C-Link or anywhere else?[/quote

49er fans are no better or worse than Hawk fans or any other fans, we all have our assholes. You put together two opposing teams, add alcohol......bingo, instant assholes.

If you have never seen anything inapproriate occur at "The Clink" maybe you should try Youtube or better yet wear the opposing teams jersey to the game. I think you will be shocked at some of the things you hear, and that how it is in every stadium, people are getting out of hand.

Personally I love the trash talking, it's what makes the game so much fun, but there is a limit. No one should have to worry about taking their young children or spouses to a game. I think if we all try to check ourselves and our own fans the whole experience will be more enjoyable for all.

And forgive me for saying so, but it's just a game, not worth loosing teeth over, or spending the night in jail for.

A search on youtube turns up three seahawks fight videos -- only one of them is at C-Link and that, big surprise, involves a 49ers fan. If you search for 49ers fans fights TONS of videos come up, followed in quantity only by Raiders and Ravens fans.

Not saying that all Seahawks fans are angels, by any means. But certain fan bases are just KNOWN to be more belligerent, aggressive, and likely to get physical than others. 49ers are one of them.


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I've actually never seen a real fight at the Clink, idiots squaring off, but no blows. Drunks going over board, usually security is called and they get escorted out.

The swearing bothers me sometimes when I have my kid, but other than that, not too bad.

Honestly the worst thing I saw was back on '05, two drunks were sitting a row below us and to the side, 2 young women were sitting right beside my wife and I, behind the two drunks. All 4 of them obviously had been pre-funking A LOT. At first we thought they all knew each other. But as the game went on the two guys started getting really 'handsy' turning around and groping them, it was freaking bizarre. The girls were playing it off well, several times I would say knock it off, push their hands away, tell them to chill. Finally a guy behind them asked if they wanted security, they said yes. An usher waited several rows up and watched, sure enough they did it again and bam, 2 minutes later about 4 sheriffs were there and tossed the guys. Frackin' idiots.


Last preseason it popped off in one of the upper sections, I saw it from area. I don't know why anyone would wanna fight that high up with how steep those steps are.

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Well it's not a secret that 49ers fans are scumbags. Personally, I've never seen anything inappropriate occur at C-Link beyond a few curse words and your average, sporting-event typical drunkenness.

One guy I met who was a Cowboys fan said that someone poured a beer on his wife -- but I don't trust him at all, and seriously doubt that was the whole story.

Anyone ever have any problems either at C-Link or anywhere else?[/quote

49er fans are no better or worse than Hawk fans or any other fans, we all have our assholes. You put together two opposing teams, add alcohol......bingo, instant assholes.

If you have never seen anything inapproriate occur at "The Clink" maybe you should try Youtube or better yet wear the opposing teams jersey to the game. I think you will be shocked at some of the things you hear, and that how it is in every stadium, people are getting out of hand.

Personally I love the trash talking, it's what makes the game so much fun, but there is a limit. No one should have to worry about taking their young children or spouses to a game. I think if we all try to check ourselves and our own fans the whole experience will be more enjoyable for all.

And forgive me for saying so, but it's just a game, not worth loosing teeth over, or spending the night in jail for.

A search on youtube turns up three seahawks fight videos -- only one of them is at C-Link and that, big surprise, involves a 49ers fan. If you search for 49ers fans fights TONS of videos come up, followed in quantity only by Raiders and Ravens fans.

Not saying that all Seahawks fans are angels, by any means. But certain fan bases are just KNOWN to be more belligerent, aggressive, and likely to get physical than others. 49ers are one of them.


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Well it's not a secret that 49ers fans are scumbags. Personally, I've never seen anything inappropriate occur at C-Link beyond a few curse words and your average, sporting-event typical drunkenness.

One guy I met who was a Cowboys fan said that someone poured a beer on his wife -- but I don't trust him at all, and seriously doubt that was the whole story.

Anyone ever have any problems either at C-Link or anywhere else?[/quote

49er fans are no better or worse than Hawk fans or any other fans, we all have our assholes. You put together two opposing teams, add alcohol......bingo, instant assholes.

If you have never seen anything inapproriate occur at "The Clink" maybe you should try Youtube or better yet wear the opposing teams jersey to the game. I think you will be shocked at some of the things you hear, and that how it is in every stadium, people are getting out of hand.

Personally I love the trash talking, it's what makes the game so much fun, but there is a limit. No one should have to worry about taking their young children or spouses to a game. I think if we all try to check ourselves and our own fans the whole experience will be more enjoyable for all.

And forgive me for saying so, but it's just a game, not worth loosing teeth over, or spending the night in jail for.

A search on youtube turns up three seahawks fight videos -- only one of them is at C-Link and that, big surprise, involves a 49ers fan. If you search for 49ers fans fights TONS of videos come up, followed in quantity only by Raiders and Ravens fans.

Not saying that all Seahawks fans are angels, by any means. But certain fan bases are just KNOWN to be more belligerent, aggressive, and likely to get physical than others. 49ers are one of them.


I type in "fight at Seahawk game" The first 6 are as follows:

Hawk fans vs Cowboy fans at the Clink (off duty cops)
Hawk fans vs Giant fans at the Clink
Hawk fans vs 49er fans at the Clink
Hawk fans vs AZ fans at the Clink
Hawk fans vs 17 year old Packers fan at the Clink
Hawk fans vs Eagles fans, again at the Clink.

Stop being the pot calling the kettle black, either that or open your eyes.


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I type in "fight at Seahawk game" The first 6 are as follows:

Stop being the pot calling the kettle black, either that or open your eyes.


You are just misrepresenting the case, my friend. Plain and simple. I typed in "fight at Seahawk game" and did not get those results at all -- but after a little digging, I found the videos you were referring to. Let's break it down.

Hawk fans vs Cowboy fans at the Clink (off duty cops) -- This is a legit fight. But in a parking lot, and NOT in C-Link itself.
Hawk fans vs Giant fans at the Clink - NOT a fight. Just a Giants fan drunkenly yelling and then being escorted out by security.
Hawk fans vs 49er fans at the Clink - The video I mentioned earlier, involving a 49ers fan. Obnoxious 49ers fan gets his sign stolen, pushing ensues, 49ers fan escalates things by starting to swing wildly at Seahawks fan.
Hawk fans vs AZ fans at the Clink - a 2 second fight between two WOMEN. One of them slaps the other in the shoulder and then quickly walks away. Not really what I would call a fight.
Hawk fans vs 17 year old Packers fan at the Clink - This is called "Seahawk fan pounces young packers fan" and is, in fact, a video of an older female Seahawk fan giving a lap dance to a youngish guy, who looks both amused and alarmed.
Hawk fans vs Eagles fans, again at the Clink. - This one actually does seem like it qualifies as a "fight" - but is still just one punch thrown (by the Eagles fan, I think) and then quickly broken up.

Again, I'm not claiming that Seahawks fans are angels. But I don't know how you could seriously believe that 49ers fans or, say, Raiders fans DO NOT have a reputation for being excessively belligerent. More so than other teams. I mean, someone got KILLED outside your stadium last year, bro. 29 other teams in the league did not have that problem. Maybe it's time to stop trying to deny the existence of a problem, and start finding ways to quell the tidal wave of douchebaggery emanating from Candlestick Park?


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I've seen several. Most were from drunken moron bandwagon Seahawks fans that had never seen a game before 2005 and believe that coming with the identity of the 12th man comes the impression that we gotta be obnoxious. Lots of groups of guys get as liquored up as they can to be as loud and rowdy as possible. At least when we were bad, our fans understood football. I used to love going to Seahawks games. I can barely stomach it now and don't go more than once a year. I've gone into detail about what I saw at an opener against TB when Hawk fans blocked TB fans from getting medical attention when one was unresponsive. The worst I ever saw though was at the Rams playoff game when Bobby Engram dropped the ball. I was sitting next to a couple wearing Rams jackets. They were 60-ish. They were very polite, took some friendly ribbing at the hands of my group. They stood and clapped when the Rams did something good, but weren't verbal at all. After Engram dropped the ball, the guy stood up and raised his hands in the air and said "yessssss!!! And the guy behind him broke a beer bottle over his head and kicked him before we were able to tackle him. As I said, I've been to a lot of stadiums, and have never seen anything quite like that. Made me embarrassed to be a Seahawks fan, and I haven't held the 12th man in the same light since. Every time I go back now, I keep an eye open for stupid crap like this, and I have since noticed that it is everywhere. The 12th man is out of control. And they aren't football fans. And it is really sad.

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Stop being the pot calling the kettle black, either that or open your eyes.


Hawk fans vs Giant fans at the Clink - NOT a fight. Just a Giants fan drunkenly yelling and then being escorted out by security.

Lol, I'm the guy who is complaining in that video to the usher and the cops - seriously, that Giants fan was a Giant douche - he was popping off the entire game (and this is the game in 2010 with Charlie Whitehurst where they beat us 41-7) and that fight slowly escalated over about 10 mins - If the usher had done his job there would have been no punch even thrown. Things can occasionally get a little out of hand in the Hawk's Nest - but this one was all on the opposing fan actually LOOKING for a fight.


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I type in "fight at Seahawk game" The first 6 are as follows:

Stop being the pot calling the kettle black, either that or open your eyes.


You are just misrepresenting the case, my friend. Plain and simple. I typed in "fight at Seahawk game" and did not get those results at all -- but after a little digging, I found the videos you were referring to. Let's break it down.

Hawk fans vs Cowboy fans at the Clink (off duty cops) -- This is a legit fight. But in a parking lot, and NOT in C-Link itself.
Hawk fans vs Giant fans at the Clink - NOT a fight. Just a Giants fan drunkenly yelling and then being escorted out by security.
Hawk fans vs 49er fans at the Clink - The video I mentioned earlier, involving a 49ers fan. Obnoxious 49ers fan gets his sign stolen, pushing ensues, 49ers fan escalates things by starting to swing wildly at Seahawks fan.
Hawk fans vs AZ fans at the Clink - a 2 second fight between two WOMEN. One of them slaps the other in the shoulder and then quickly walks away. Not really what I would call a fight.
Hawk fans vs 17 year old Packers fan at the Clink - This is called "Seahawk fan pounces young packers fan" and is, in fact, a video of an older female Seahawk fan giving a lap dance to a youngish guy, who looks both amused and alarmed.
Hawk fans vs Eagles fans, again at the Clink. - This one actually does seem like it qualifies as a "fight" - but is still just one punch thrown (by the Eagles fan, I think) and then quickly broken up.

Again, I'm not claiming that Seahawks fans are angels. But I don't know how you could seriously believe that 49ers fans or, say, Raiders fans DO NOT have a reputation for being excessively belligerent. More so than other teams. I mean, someone got KILLED outside your stadium last year, bro. 29 other teams in the league did not have that problem. Maybe it's time to stop trying to deny the existence of a problem, and start finding ways to quell the tidal wave of douchebaggery emanating from Candlestick Park?


They are, that's why a new stadium is being built in Santa Clara. It's no secret that Candlestick has gone to shit over the years, the neighborhood is terrible, even home fans are not safe, also because of the proximity to Oakland and the cheap ticket prices we get alot of actual Raider fans coming to the Stick dressed as 9er fans with the sole purpose of starting fights and causing problems in general . And I agree that some stadiums are worse than others, but we all need to start checking our own fans and stop making excuses like "well your stadium is worse". The problem is a growiing problem throughout the league including at the Clink which why there have been so many talks about banning alcohol sales at the games, also to include the Clink. I could be wrong but I dont think they would be talking about banning alcohol and loosing all the revenue from the sales of alcohol unless they felt the problem is a serious one.

Again not trying say we dont have our share of Jerk-off, D'bag fans cause we do, but no more than anyone else. Hope to see some of you at the game, would love to have a beer or two with any of you and talk some smack.


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The talk of banning alcohol is just that talk. I did a study several years ago right after Seahawks Stadium opened.(I will never call it clink or anything to do with what was US Worst phone company).

Teams make more than a million dollars a game on concessions which includes alcohol sales so they are never going to stop. At that time the figure for Seahawks Stadium was about $1,350,000 a game. You can spend a lot on better security and not spend much of those moneys.

Its probably getting close to $2 million a year now a days. Would you give that up?

That talk all started at a New York Giants game a few years ago when 2 drunken fans fighting after a game ran into a little girl knocked her down accidently. she was paralyzed for life by the hit. But it died down after a while.

They will work on security and we fans can be a big part of that but it will never stop. And stopping alcohol sales won't stop fan stupidity either.

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p.s. and yes all stadiums have the same problems no matter now many of us homers want it to not be.

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