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 Post subject: Re: Redskins Name Change
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So you have no problem calling an Indian American a "redskin" to their face?


An Indian-American's heritage is India, but I presume you meant Native American. As a joke I would, yes. Hell, me and a bunch of friends call an Israeli friend of ours a Jew all the time for the hell of it. (He's atheist.) It's actually a friendly moniker in the context we use it. Would I use it as a racial epithet in anger at a Native American person? Almost certainly not, short of extraordinary circumstances where I have valid reason to goad the person excessively based on something they did.

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Roland, despite what you seem to think the word Jew it's not a racial epithet.


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Roland, despite what you seem to think the word Jew it's not a racial epithet.


Well, a significant percentage of racial epithets are actually ethnic epithets, and Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity or a race; but people use it like one and it has probably entered the English language as such in dictionaries by now.

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This name wasn't ever a problem until some retards from the left made enough noise and got it picked up by the PC media.

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This name wasn't ever a problem until some retards from the left made enough noise and got it picked up by the PC media.


This is the most ignorant post in the entire thread for multiple reasons.


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This name wasn't ever a problem until some retards from the left made enough noise and got it picked up by the PC media.


This is the most ignorant post in the entire thread for multiple reasons.


I second that emotion

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Here's my problem with the "history" argument- It's basically just rewarding being so stubborn, out of touch, and arrogant to hold strong to a racist nickname or a racist logo or whatever for far too long. Just because you've done something wrong a long time, doesn't mean the onus is on others to just accept it.

Here's my problem with the "Native American's are fine with it" argument - I don't believe racial slurs, racist jokes, hate speech, etc. are wrong just because they offend those they are directed at. If I had a kid and he pointed out an African-American and said "look dad a n-----," I wouldn't feel like it was okay so long as no African-Americans heard it. Crap like the Redskins or Chief Wahoo offend my sense of decency, and I'm not any part Native American. Same way I feel when I see old racist caricatures, literature, etc. There's a reason we try to bury so much of it in the past, because it hurts to look at now, and that's how a lot of people feel about these teams.

The change is inevitable, it WILL happen, people are not going to grow more accepting of ugly racist relics on grand display over time.

I'm QFTing this post because it's just about perfect and is worth being re-read. Well put.

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Who cares. It's a name. Names and labels are meaningless to anyone who actually has a brain.

If the Redskins change their name, do you guys really think that Indians (and yes I call them Indians because that's what they prefer to be called) are going to let out a big sigh of relief and say "well...our lives just got better". I don't think so...it's just meaningless garbage for the media to churn out and make money.


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I don't know, but if you find yourself agreeing with BOTH Dan Snyder and Roger Goodell on a topic, you are probably wrong.

Being from Seattle, surrounded by a lot of Native Americans on a semi-daily basis, I would be embarrassed to have anything with "Redskins" printed on it. What do you think?



I am part American Indian (which I prefer) but I did hear of a poll taken - 100% American Indians.

Over 90% thought the name "Redskins" was not offensive and they were just fine with it.
As am I.

Keep the Redskins name!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny that most white people don't like the name and most American Indians appear to be just fine with it.


That's the problem with polls.


What? That they present too many facts you disagree with? ;)


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[quote="Stephen SeaHawking"]I don't know, but if you find yourself agreeing with BOTH Dan Snyder and Roger Goodell on a topic, you are probably wrong.

Being from Seattle, surrounded by a lot of Native Americans on a semi-daily basis, I would be embarrassed to have anything with "Redskins" printed on it. What do you think?



I am part American Indian (which I prefer) but I did hear of a poll taken - 100% American Indians.

Over 90% thought the name "Redskins" was not offensive and they were just fine with it.
As am I.

Keep the Redskins name!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny that most white people don't like the name and most American Indians appear to be just fine with it.


That's the problem with polls.


What? That they present too many facts you disagree with? ;)[/quote]

No. I'm 34 and I've never been asked my opinion for any poll outside of .net. One thing I've learned so far is that figures lie and liars figure.

What facts could a poll possibly present anyway? 50% of people that chose to click this link agree with me?


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You guys can argue this til the cows come home but the bottom line is that it's not going to change as long as Snyder's bitch boy is the commish. Yo Rog, how's that "we're all about player safety" thing workin' out in conjunction with Danny boy's cow pasture of a field? RGIII and Chris Clemons think it's not going so well. Not being a hypocrite much are you?

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Who cares. It's a name. Names and labels are meaningless to anyone who actually has a brain.

If the Redskins change their name, do you guys really think that Indians (and yes I call them Indians because that's what they prefer to be called) are going to let out a big sigh of relief and say "well...our lives just got better". I don't think so...it's just meaningless garbage for the media to churn out and make money.

Names and labels tell us about our culture - what we value, what we don't, our attitudes, our assumptions, our relationships to one another. There's a reason why republicans call it "enhanced interrogation techniques" and why democrats call it "torture" -- or why republicans call rich people "job creators" and democrats refer to them as "the one percent." Names don't just DESCRIBE a thing, they SHAPE what that thing is.

There is a whole field of study called Semiotics that addresses this. To live in obliviousness to the rhetorical power of language is to make yourself susceptible to anyone who chooses to wield it to their advantage.


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Names and labels tell us about our culture - what we value, what we don't, our attitudes, our assumptions, our relationships to one another. There's a reason why republicans call it "enhanced interrogation techniques" and why democrats call it "torture" -- or why republicans call rich people "job creators" and democrats refer to them as "the one percent." Names don't just DESCRIBE a thing, they SHAPE what that thing is.

There is a whole field of study called Semiotics that addresses this. To live in obliviousness to the rhetorical power of language is to make yourself susceptible to anyone who chooses to wield it to their advantage.


I agree. And the very people who are living in obliviousness to the rhetorical power of language are the exact type of people who think it matters what the name of a football team is. We should condition them into realizing how little value labels and names have so that they are no longer susceptible. We can start by not catering to their needs that are drawn off of these values, such as re-naming the Redskins.


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Names and labels tell us about our culture - what we value, what we don't, our attitudes, our assumptions, our relationships to one another. There's a reason why republicans call it "enhanced interrogation techniques" and why democrats call it "torture" -- or why republicans call rich people "job creators" and democrats refer to them as "the one percent." Names don't just DESCRIBE a thing, they SHAPE what that thing is.

There is a whole field of study called Semiotics that addresses this. To live in obliviousness to the rhetorical power of language is to make yourself susceptible to anyone who chooses to wield it to their advantage.


I agree. And the very people who are living in obliviousness to the rhetorical power of language are the exact type of people who think it matters what the name of a football team is. We should condition them into realizing how little value labels and names have so that they are no longer susceptible. We can start by not catering to their needs that are drawn off of these values, such as re-naming the Redskins.


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I think America and its crack down on racial slurs I a joke and over the top. I agree with fenderbender nfl teams should be able to be called what ever they want. Whats wrong with the Alabama porch monkey's. The Arizona mud backs sounds good to me as well. Why it ok in your mind to use a racial slur towards one group and not others. Is because YOU have been programed to think as such. Whats next in your opinion the Detriot women ra#er's (not going to say the word). A large group of people find the racial slur offensive and its just as bad as the ones listed above.


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I nearly died laughing reading Cockeyhawk's post. Christ.

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So you have no problem calling an Indian American a "redskin" to their face?


An Indian-American's heritage is India, but I presume you meant Native American. As a joke I would, yes. Hell, me and a bunch of friends call an Israeli friend of ours a Jew all the time for the hell of it. (He's atheist.) It's actually a friendly moniker in the context we use it. Would I use it as a racial epithet in anger at a Native American person? Almost certainly not, short of extraordinary circumstances where I have valid reason to goad the person excessively based on something they did.


Its not a good idea to refer to people as jew, redskin, , even amongst friends. I had friends like that who would use derogatory terms at me. I acted like it was a friendly moniker as well but it was not. I laughed it off just to fit in but I couldn't help but think they thought less of me or they did not accept me because of it.

Obviously, i know you from the 49ers forum and u are NOT prejudice and you are NOT racist, but i'm saying using terms like that may make people feel uncomfortable. Redskins and other names like that are derogatory. Imagine if the German soccer team in 2100 was the German K*kes. Those people in 2100 may not even know what that means, but doesn't make it ok.


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I think America and its crack down on racial slurs I a joke and over the top. I agree with fenderbender nfl teams should be able to be called what ever they want. Whats wrong with the Alabama porch monkey's. The Arizona mud backs sounds good to me as well. Why it ok in your mind to use a racial slur towards one group and not others. Is because YOU have been programed to think as such. Whats next in your opinion the Detriot women ra#er's (not going to say the word). A large group of people find the racial slur offensive and its just as bad as the ones listed above.


Names and labels are not racist or offensive by nature. They are not the enemy. If we ended actual racism, nobody would care what the names of our teams are. That's my only point. Pick up a philosophy book sometime and find out for yourself.

It's like schools trying to take a stance against gangs by banning Raiders apparel and boys wearing pink shirts. They're just clothes...clothes don't jump out and stab you in the face.

If you wanna spend your time on window dressing instead of actually cracking down on the cause and damage of racism, be my guest.


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Its not a good idea to refer to people as jew, redskin, even amongst friends. I had friends like that who would use derogatory terms at me. I acted like it was a friendly moniker as well but it was not. I laughed it off just to fit in but I couldn't help but think they thought less of me or they did not accept me because of it.


I know what you mean, and I'm sure there are plenty of instances of that; but not with the 3 friends I'm referring to. They regularly make racist jokes about themselves to get laughs, too. My Korean friend has threatened to eat my Israeli friend's dog more times than I can count, lol. He has even asked for a salt shaker randomly out of the blue, and when my Israeli friend asked why, he said "So I can start preparing Niko." (Niko being the name of his dog.)

We don't say this stuff aloud where other people can hear it, though; so if you think we'll say stuff like that loudly in a grocery store or while waiting in line at a movie theater, ah, no.

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Its not a good idea to refer to people as jew, redskin, even amongst friends. I had friends like that who would use derogatory terms at me. I acted like it was a friendly moniker as well but it was not. I laughed it off just to fit in but I couldn't help but think they thought less of me or they did not accept me because of it.


We don't say this stuff aloud where other people can hear it, though; so if you think we'll say stuff like that loudly in a grocery store or while waiting in line at a movie theater, ah, no.


But it's ok to name a professional team with one of those words? Got it.

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But it's ok to name a professional team with one of those words? Got it.


No matter how many times you make this point, it's still not going to become the relevant question.

I've lived on a reservation for two years and have asked them about the team name. None of them care. They're just excited about RG3.

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But it's ok to name a professional team with one of those words? Got it.


No matter how many times you make this point, it's still not going to become the relevant question.

I've lived on a reservation for two years and have asked them about the team name. None of them care. They're just excited about RG3.


I just find it odd that it's a word people wouldn't use to describe a native american, but are ok with being a name of a pro sports team.

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I'm just glad I hate the Redskins (the team, I'm definitely not using a racial epithet to declare my hate for a section of people) and don't have to veil support for an ignorant name just because that team is in my market.


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I'm just glad I hate the Redskins (the team, I'm definitely not using a racial epithet to declare my hate for a section of people) and don't have to veil support for an ignorant name just because that team is in my market.


Yeah, God forbid you have the intelligence to still support a team but dislike the name of it, lol. What a horrible dilemma that would be!

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I suppose they could be renamed the Braves or something? But fact is the vast majority of Native Americans aren't offended by it and don't see it as an issue. It's really just being spotlighted as a way to push more political correctness agendas to the forefront more than anything else.

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Kansas City would have something to say about that methinks. :)

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Kansas City would have something to say about that methinks. :)


But would anybody listen? :devil:

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Nice. Believe it or not there's a huge fanbase out here. Shocking I know. :)

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I really do wonder how the state of Missouri, population 6 million, can support two NFL franchises. Washington state has 1 and a population of 6.9 million, and no surrounding states have a franchise.

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I don't know, but if you find yourself agreeing with BOTH Dan Snyder and Roger Goodell on a topic, you are probably wrong.

Being from Seattle, surrounded by a lot of Native Americans on a semi-daily basis, I would be embarrassed to have anything with "Redskins" printed on it. What do you think?



I am part American Indian (which I prefer) but I did hear of a poll taken - 100% American Indians.

Over 90% thought the name "Redskins" was not offensive and they were just fine with it.
As am I.

Keep the Redskins name!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny that most white people don't like the name and most American Indians appear to be just fine with it.


Did they actually question 100% of the Native Americans, with all sorts of blood lines, in this country or was it some stupid online poll that a bunch of Redskin fans were able to pump up their support for?

I'm part Native American as well, and it is all out racist. Just because some people are fine with something, doesn't mean it isn't wrong.


Also part native here. Upper Skagit tribe. I find it to be offensive because it was meant to be so. The history of the team says all that is needed to be said. The name is racist and has no place in polite society. They should change it if only to remove the stink from their organization.

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I really do wonder how the state of Missouri, population 6 million, can support two NFL franchises. Washington state has 1 and a population of 6.9 million, and no surrounding states have a franchise.

Football is big in this area of the country and it's a virtual tradition like baseball in St. Louis.

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America is a great Country, a great Nation that has done a lot of good things for its own people and lots of people in the world.
But sometimes we seem to forget is that, many things achieved in this country were done at the expense of the lives and blood of many innocent people and their families. To those who don't seem to care about the historical meaning behind "Redskins". How would you feel, if some Saudi Arabian team was named after the 9/11 slaughtering of Americans lives (I'm sure some of you have seen footage of these criminal acts being celebrated in certain parts of the world)? Will you be offended? Would you find yourself supporting such a team? I doubt it.
Let's put ourselves sometimes in the shoes of those others. I'm a African American and my parents / grand parents have told me stories of segregation and discrimination they have experienced in this country and I wouldn't wish them on anyone or their family. If a group of people feel offended by certain words we use because these words reminds them of a very bitter and tragic past, let's move beyond that. America benefits more being united and inclusive than being divided/divisive.

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America is a great Country, a great Nation that has done a lot of good things for its own people and lots of people in the world.
But sometimes we seem to forget is that, many things achieved in this country were done at the expense of the lives and blood of many innocent people and their families. To those who don't seem to care about the historical meaning behind "Redskins". How would you feel, if some Saudi Arabian team was named after the 9/11 slaughtering of Americans lives (I'm sure some of you have seen footage of these criminal acts being celebrated in certain parts of the world)? Will you be offended? Would you find yourself supporting such a team? I doubt it.
Let's put ourselves sometimes in the shoes of those others. I'm a African American and my parents / grand parents have told me stories of segregation and discrimination they have experienced in this country and I wouldn't wish them on anyone or their family. If a group of people feel offended by certain words we use because these words reminds them of a very bitter and tragic past, let's move beyond that. America benefits more being united and inclusive than being divided/divisive.


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I don't know, but if you find yourself agreeing with BOTH Dan Snyder and Roger Goodell on a topic, you are probably wrong.

Being from Seattle, surrounded by a lot of Native Americans on a semi-daily basis, I would be embarrassed to have anything with "Redskins" printed on it. What do you think?



I am part American Indian (which I prefer) but I did hear of a poll taken - 100% American Indians.

Over 90% thought the name "Redskins" was not offensive and they were just fine with it.
As am I.

Keep the Redskins name!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny that most white people don't like the name and most American Indians appear to be just fine with it.


Did they actually question 100% of the Native Americans, with all sorts of blood lines, in this country or was it some stupid online poll that a bunch of Redskin fans were able to pump up their support for?

I'm part Native American as well, and it is all out racist. Just because some people are fine with something, doesn't mean it isn't wrong.



Well, that's the great thing about living in a free society.....if you are offended, don't like something etc., you can chose to not listen, not call them by that name. That's how this FREEDOM thing works....Instead of violating someone's constitutional rights. Freedom, it's a great thing, I'm sure you've heard of it.....you ought to try it sometime....you may like it.


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Well, that's the great thing about living in a free society.....if you are offended, don't like something etc., you can chose to not listen, not call them by that name. That's how this FREEDOM thing works....Instead of violating someone's constitutional rights. Freedom, it's a great thing, I'm sure you've heard of it.....you ought to try it sometime....you may like it.


I always get a kick out of that argument. "You're free to not listen to someone." Explain how THAT works...And explain how racism applies to freedom, while you're at it. "Freedom means you're free to not be offended by a racial slur!"

One's rights only extend to the point where they infringe on another's.

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[quote="Stephen SeaHawking"]I don't know, but if you find yourself agreeing with BOTH Dan Snyder and Roger Goodell on a topic, you are probably wrong.

Being from Seattle, surrounded by a lot of Native Americans on a semi-daily basis, I would be embarrassed to have anything with "Redskins" printed on it. What do you think?



I am part American Indian (which I prefer) but I did hear of a poll taken - 100% American Indians.

Over 90% thought the name "Redskins" was not offensive and they were just fine with it.
As am I.

Keep the Redskins name!!!!!!!!

Kind of funny that most white people don't like the name and most American Indians appear to be just fine with it.


Did they actually question 100% of the Native Americans, with all sorts of blood lines, in this country or was it some stupid online poll that a bunch of Redskin fans were able to pump up their support for?

I'm part Native American as well, and it is all out racist. Just because some people are fine with something, doesn't mean it isn't wrong.



Well, that's the great thing about living in a free society.....if you are offended, don't like something etc., you can chose to not listen, not call them by that name. That's how this FREEDOM thing works....Instead of violating someone's constitutional rights. Freedom, it's a great thing, I'm sure you've heard of it.....you ought to try it sometime....you may like it.[/quote]

Maybe that's how FREEDOM is in lala land but not in the real world.


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I really do wonder how the state of Missouri, population 6 million, can support two NFL franchises. Washington state has 1 and a population of 6.9 million, and no surrounding states have a franchise.


wait, wait, wait.... Hold the phone... Since when is Kansas City in Missouri? I always thought it was in Kansas! What the Truck?

What are you going to tell me next, that the Giants actually play in New Jersey..?

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Society is too soft and PC. Almost anything can be offensive to someone. Having said that, who cares if they change their name? They shouldn't be forced to by congress. Congress should stay out of sports and let fans, owners and players association decide this.

...and yes I am part "Indian" from the U.S. This doesn't offend me personally, but can understand how it would others.

Quick story: one son is half black (I am almost all white with a little native) other 2 kids are white. The one tried to act like he could say "nigga" to his black friends. I put a stop to this instantly. If m white kids can't say it then neither can he.

Racism will continue to exist as long as differences are pointed out. I.e. "first native to do ...." "First black to ..." Etc etc.. Sometimes those that try to not be racist are the most racist. We can not all be equal and there will always be some moron to point out flaws and differences by putting down others.

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I really do wonder how the state of Missouri, population 6 million, can support two NFL franchises. Washington state has 1 and a population of 6.9 million, and no surrounding states have a franchise.


wait, wait, wait.... Hold the phone... Since when is Kansas City in Missouri? I always thought it was in Kansas! What the Truck?

What are you going to tell me next, that the Giants actually play in New Jersey..?

No sir like St. Louis the vast majority of the city is in Missouri (Jackson County to be exact) though there is a Kansas City, Kansas like there is a St. Louis, Illinois but they are very small portion of either city.

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I really do wonder how the state of Missouri, population 6 million, can support two NFL franchises. Washington state has 1 and a population of 6.9 million, and no surrounding states have a franchise.


wait, wait, wait.... Hold the phone... Since when is Kansas City in Missouri? I always thought it was in Kansas! What the Truck?

What are you going to tell me next, that the Giants actually play in New Jersey..?

No sir like St. Louis the vast majority of the city is in Missouri (Jackson County to be exact) though there is a Kansas City, Kansas like there is a St. Louis, Illinois but they are very small portion of either city.


Well that's just stupid. Why don't you just invade Kansas and annex the rest of the city from them?

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lol waiiit Missouri shares its two biggest cities? Does Missouri suck that bad?

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lol waiiit Missouri shares its two biggest cities? Does Missouri suck that bad?

Yes sir it does. :lol:

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Invading Kansas would be like invading Central Canada...there's nothing but cows there. Besides anybody that lives in Kansas finds any excuse they can to come over to Missouri because at least we have alcohol and porn.

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Invading Kansas would be like invading Central Canada...there's nothing but cows there. Besides anybody that lives in Kansas finds any excuse they can to come over to Missouri because at least we have alcohol and porn.


There's no alcohol or porn in Kansas!? WTF is WRONG with that God forsaken place!?!

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Invading Kansas would be like invading Central Canada...there's nothing but cows there. Besides anybody that lives in Kansas finds any excuse they can to come over to Missouri because at least we have alcohol and porn.


There's no alcohol or porn in Kansas!? WTF is WRONG with that God forsaken place!?!

It's like Puritan world there. It seriously has strict alcohol laws. Very near a blue state in that regard. It doesn't sell actual strong beer there etc. (not sure on the porn thing I just threw that in there because it's probably true. 8)).

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So Snyder hired a fake Chief of a tribe to ho on to the weekly DC team show and proclaim his love for the team and thst he appreciates the honor. Its on BR. I'll post a link when I get home.


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