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  • Spokane, are you related to Tebow or something? This is the second thread I have seen you go all "One Man Tebow Army" with these asinine statements and arguments about Tebow. I'm tempted to say "give it up" but its pretty funny, so keep on fighting the good fight dude!
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  • Missing_Clink wrote:Spokane, are you related to Tebow or something? This is the second thread I have seen you go all "One Man Tebow Army" with these asinine statements and arguments about Tebow. I'm tempted to say "give it up" but its pretty funny, so keep on fighting the good fight dude!


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  • Spokane wrote:lol. You pick one article and call it good. The facts are the facts, they called and offered picks. Trust me the media hates that guy and would not give him the respect of a team offering picks for him, unless they have to. They say the truth and then make backward lies.

    The hawks called and offered picks for Tim (the hawks are not going to call on a trade and ask for him for free...DUH, of course they offered picks)


    1.) The report says we "inquired" about Tebow, not that we "offered picks"
    2.) NEWS FLASH: John Schnieder "inquires" about players all the time -it's his job. That's what any good GM does: keep track of which players might be available and what the price will be. I'm sure Schnieder probably "inquired" about every other guy on the Jets' roster while he had Izdik on the phone.
    3.) Various reports say that the Jets were letting Tebow & his agent shop themselves the past couple weeks. Everyone knew he was going to be cut this offseason. They didn't cut him until after the draft. Connect the dots ... that means the Jets were looking to get anything for him, even if it was a conditional 7th rounder, and no team (including the 'Hawks) would give up even that insignificant a pick.
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  • Think it's safe to say we've all heard more than enough about this.

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  • My whole point was that PC/JS would not call the Jets unless they were willing to trade picks for your boy Tebow!!!

    Can you get that? Does that register for you?


    Hey ask yourself this....did you play football? Yeah well did PC give you call this year and say "Whats it going to take to get you in here"? Please. They only call on the players they want.

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  • Throwdown wrote:
    Missing_Clink wrote:Spokane, are you related to Tebow or something? This is the second thread I have seen you go all "One Man Tebow Army" with these asinine statements and arguments about Tebow. I'm tempted to say "give it up" but its pretty funny, so keep on fighting the good fight dude!



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    So yes, technically, the earth isn't spinning, relative to the rest of the universe.
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  • The earth is not spinning, but lets not get me kicked out of another fourm :)

    Back to Tebew... (its funny when Tebow is the safe subject)
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  • If it werent for all the crazy Tebow fans and the insane media coverage I would rather have him then Portis, Johnson or Quinn. But when those things come with it i'll stick with our no talent backups rather then bringing in a no talent backup who brings a circus.
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  • Spokane wrote:The earth is not spinning, but lets not get me kicked out of another fourm :)

    Back to Tebew... (its funny when Tebow is the safe subject)


    If it is, you should try that.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:If it werent for all the crazy Tebow fans and the insane media coverage I would rather have him then Portis, Johnson or Quinn. But when those things come with it i'll stick with our no talent backups rather then bringing in a no talent backup who brings a circus.


    This is where I'm at with Tebow. He's not as horrible as people make him out to be, and he'd certainly be a better option as a back up QB than Curtis Painter, Jordan Palmer or any one of the jagoffs the Cardinals rolled out last year, but the distraction that "Tebowmania" brings is just not worth it. If you took the exact same guy with the same skills and named him "Dave Jones" or something, I'd be all for bringing him in as the 3rd QB, but Tim Tebow can stay the hell away from my football team.
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  • Sac, I know I have worked you over a couple times, but the time to attack was then not now.
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  • SalishHawkFan wrote:
    Throwdown wrote:
    Missing_Clink wrote:Spokane, are you related to Tebow or something? This is the second thread I have seen you go all "One Man Tebow Army" with these asinine statements and arguments about Tebow. I'm tempted to say "give it up" but its pretty funny, so keep on fighting the good fight dude!



    Technically, according to Einstein, if you pick the Earth as your frame of reference, the Earth doesn't spin and all the universe is spinning around it. it's called Relativity. The universe is spinning, relative to the earth. His example was even that if you're in an elevator, the elevator doesn't go up, the whole universe goes down, relative to you.

    So yes, technically, the earth isn't spinning, relative to the rest of the universe.


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  • THIS WHOLE THREAD wrote:Blah de blah blah Tebow blah blah de blah.


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  • CANHawk wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:If it werent for all the crazy Tebow fans and the insane media coverage I would rather have him then Portis, Johnson or Quinn. But when those things come with it i'll stick with our no talent backups rather then bringing in a no talent backup who brings a circus.


    This is where I'm at with Tebow. He's not as horrible as people make him out to be, and he'd certainly be a better option as a back up QB than Curtis Painter, Jordan Palmer or any one of the jagoffs the Cardinals rolled out last year, but the distraction that "Tebowmania" brings is just not worth it. If you took the exact same guy with the same skills and named him "Dave Jones" or something, I'd be all for bringing him in as the 3rd QB, but Tim Tebow can stay the hell away from my football team.


    Answer this question....How many NFL games can you or anyone else say were lost due to a player's off the field distractions?
    What game can you say TO cost his team? How about CHAD#8? None, the distraction myth is caused to create drama/a problem where there is not one. The Circus myth is created by media for the media...who the freak is showing up? The Media, and then they complain about it. It goes to show you how far you have to push the truth to make it a lie.
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  • We get it, Spokane. You hate Tebow.
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  • Spokane wrote:My whole point was that PC/JS would not call the Jets unless they were willing to trade picks for your boy Tebow!!!





    Hey ask yourself this....did you play football? Yeah well did PC give you call this year and say "Whats it going to take to get you in here"? Please. They only call on the players they want.

    Its time to grow up and deal with that your team wanted a player you didn't...who cares.


    All that is available is that they inquired about the cost of Tebow in a trade, not that they offered those picks. You are making an incorrect inference that if a team checks the price of an item, that they automatically offer to pay a certain amount.

    There is a HUGE difference between these two questions:

    1. How much would it cost to trade for Tebow?
    2. We will give you a 7th Rd Pick for Tebow, do you agree?

    So again, would you please post source wherein they pose a similar question number 2?

    What PC and JS WANT is a player's value. They were checking a players value, no more no less. They did not want Tebow. They wanted to know his value. And yes, they will unearth every stone for value, even posters on this site if they can perform in some aspect of football better than the value of somone on their current roster.
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  • FlyingGreg wrote:The Tebow FB talk is funny. Who says he can play FB...? No NFL team is going to take that chance.

    The reality is, he's not an NFL player. There are tons of examples of guys who were studs in college and didn't pan out in the NFL.


    +1, Tebow is one of the worst players I've ever seen. The fact he get's so much love is beyond me. Trent Dilfer looks like an pro-bowler compared to TT.
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  • Throwdown wrote:
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    Throwdown wrote:
    I believe Spokane is off his rocker, isn't he the one that once said the earth didn't rotate?

    Technically, according to Einstein, if you pick the Earth as your frame of reference, the Earth doesn't spin and all the universe is spinning around it. it's called Relativity. The universe is spinning, relative to the earth. His example was even that if you're in an elevator, the elevator doesn't go up, the whole universe goes down, relative to you.

    So yes, technically, the earth isn't spinning, relative to the rest of the universe.


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  • Teblow can just GO.
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  • FlyingGreg wrote:And the idiot Deadskins fans show up again...love this a$$ clown:

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    Denial...and nerves.

    His offense was white bread, at best, but I have to say Griffin impressed me this past year. He's a better passer than I gave him credit for coming into the 12 draft. In fact, if I had a do-over, I'd say he's worth A 1st rd pick. As in ONE first rd pick, but I'd still be nervous every minute he's on the field. Wilson? in hindsight, I'd say he's the guy you give 3 1sts and your first born for. These Skin fans are going to try to convince themselves their (idiot) FO made a good deal in getting Griffin. It was actually a GREAT deal....for the Rams. Griff's a good kid, a true competitor and I wish him well (in his next occupation). I predicted he wouldn't see a full season this year...and I predict this is the last contract he will see in the NFL.

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  • Last I checked, half of your "passes" being screens and shovels to the RB doesn't qualify as proving you can pass. I need to see more RG3 before judging him to be the next "Peyton Brady" QB superhero.
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  • Tebow completed 75% of his passes last year. Russell Wilson was way lower than that.
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  • Well hell, you just changed MY mind, Scotte!
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:Well hell, you just changed MY mind, Scotte!


    Conversion, one man at a time, is the Tebow Way.

    Now that the Hawks have 35 running backs, Wilson is superfluous. Tebow is the only answer.
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  • Scottemojo wrote:Tebow completed 75% of his passes last year. Russell Wilson was way lower than that.


    Very true (6/8?). ;)

    Like many of our picks this draft, Tebow also has "off field issues". I say we bring him in. Anyone have any film on this guy?
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  • Maybe you can go to Canada and see him play.
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  • Basis4day wrote:
    All that is available is that they inquired about the cost of Tebow in a trade, not that they offered those picks. You are making an incorrect inference that if a team checks the price of an item, that they automatically offer to pay a certain amount.


    There is a huge difference between what I said..."The hawks were willing to trade picks for your boy Tebow" (and that is the truth, again P&J called knowing they would have to give up picks, and they still picked up the phone)

    from what you wrote...
    "that they automatically offer to pay a certain amount" (never going to happen, where did that even come from?)


    They did not want Tebow. They wanted to know his value.
    They were checking his value, but did not want the player? do you think we are 5 years old, do you have any clue how dumb that sounds? Calling for an item, asking the price, then saying "psych" I never wanted him. Why would you even offer that up?

    You claim "They did not want Tebow, They wanted to know his value" Really? Everything online says they were looking into the player, nothing about the Seahawks looking at his value? Do you just make crap up? Give a source please of P or J saying "We are looking into Tim's value, not the player" LOL
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  • General Manager wrote:Maybe you can go to Canada and see him play.


    They have Arena Football in Canada?
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  • Provide us a link where Pete or John ever validated that rumor.
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  • What rumor, and if they validated the rumor - Its no longer a rumor :)
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  • Spokane wrote:
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    All that is available is that they inquired about the cost of Tebow in a trade, not that they offered those picks. You are making an incorrect inference that if a team checks the price of an item, that they automatically offer to pay a certain amount.


    There is a huge difference between what I said..."The hawks were willing to trade picks for your boy Tebow" (and that is the truth, again P&J called knowing they would have to give up picks, and they still picked up the phone)

    from what you wrote...
    "that they automatically offer to pay a certain amount" (never going to happen, where did that even come from?)


    They did not want Tebow. They wanted to know his value.
    They were checking his value, but did not want the player? do you think we are 5 years old, do you have any clue how dumb that sounds? Calling for an item, asking the price, then saying "psych" I never wanted him. Why would you even offer that up?

    You claim "They did not want Tebow, They wanted to know his value" Really? Everything online says they were looking into the player, nothing about the Seahawks looking at his value? Do you just make crap up? Give a source please of P or J saying "We are looking into Tim's value, not the player" LOL


    Sigh. Take a deep breath. Again, show me online where it states that the FO offered Picks for Tebow. I don't know why you're getting so worked up. You keep saying it's online. Post the link where it says we offered picks for Tebow. You can't. We didn't. And no one said, "psych."

    There is a difference between offering picks for a player, and asking what it would cost to acquire that player.

    Our FO has consistently stated that they will weigh every option to improve the team. (AKA Measure Value). That is pretty much entirely what John Scheider's job is.
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  • Spokane wrote:What rumor, and if they validated the rumor - Its no longer a rumor :)


    Post the link stating they offered picks for Tebow.
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  • I'm still rooting for the guy. Mostly because it will drive many of you nuts.
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  • Basis4day wrote:
    Spokane wrote:What rumor, and if they validated the rumor - Its no longer a rumor :)


    Post the link stating they offered picks for Tebow.


    What else were they going to trade for him? cash? The fact JS picked up the phone and called the Jets to acquire Suckerfish Tebow showed that he was willing to trade SOMETHING for Tebow (JS knows trades are not free). The Seahawks wanted Tebow, JS called on tebow, however the the draft picks that JS had in mind (or cash) was lower then the Jets wanted. A simple deal that died.
    But It is in Seahawks history that we did want him, but the numbers did not add up for the deal.
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    FlyingGreg wrote:And the idiot Deadskins fans show up again...love this a$$ clown:

    "Is Russell Wilson half the player RGIII is? Uh, no.

    Are the Seattle Seahawks ever going to win a Superbowl? Uh, no.

    Are the Washington Redskins the superior team in the NFL? Uh, yes."

    I gently reminded him we've beaten the Skins three straight times in the playoffs, and that it was Wilson who tied Manning's TD pass record for a rookie and not RGIII.

    Denial...


    Yeah, I saw that too. You think we're in their head at all..? LOL. They'd better get used to losing to Seattle in the playoffs for the forseeable future.



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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:I'm still rooting for the guy. Mostly because it will drive many of you nuts.


    You rooting for Tebow doesn't drive me nuts. It seems appropriate, honestly.

    Not that it's going to do any good. The guy is still going to suck. :mrgreen:
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  • Fantastic, I do not want to see Tebow anywhere near the Seahawk facilities.
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  • They said this morning that there were teams who inquired about Tebow....those same teams contacted Tebow / his agent to see if he would be willing to play TE. Tebow said no, and so much for the trade interest. I suspect if our FO made any inquiries, it was under those conditions.
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  • Spokane wrote:
    Basis4day wrote:
    Spokane wrote:What rumor, and if they validated the rumor - Its no longer a rumor :)


    Post the link stating they offered picks for Tebow.


    What else were they going to trade for him? cash? The fact JS picked up the phone and called the Jets to acquire Suckerfish Tebow showed that he was willing to trade SOMETHING for Tebow (JS knows trades are not free). The Seahawks wanted Tebow, JS called on tebow, however the the draft picks that JS had in mind (or cash) was lower then the Jets wanted. A simple deal that died.
    But It is in Seahawks history that we did want him, but the numbers did not add up for the deal.


    You keep insisting that we called up the Jets and made an offer. There are no facts to back that up. You can inquire as to a players trade value without making an offer. That is completely different than entering into a deal and saying, "Psych", to use your example. The closest thing anyone can find is that JS inquired what it would take to acquire Tebow. Again, that is different than making an offer.

    Whether or not JS had a price in mind is irrelevant. All that is available in quotes, media or print is that JS was doing his due diligence and checking with the Jets as to the cost of Tebow.

    I don't really have anything more to say on this subject until i see your link.
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  • I think I am the only one who does not hate tebow. The crap i hear about him on espn is crazy when merriel hodge talks about him i have to turn up the volume just to make sure i heard him right.

    I mean he is not great, but in my mind he is better than a good chunk of backups in the NFL, but when you compare him to someone like matt lienart..i'll take tebow. I just feel he got a bad shake from the start, he showed sign at denver, then was traded and replaced by peyton instead of being given a chance to learn under him. Then he found himself in the jets two ring circus and was given the brush off, and used as a media outlet to get the jets some espn time( which worked and failed).

    I feel bad for him, i loved him at florida, and thought he would at least be an okay NFL QB in a couple years after sitting behind someone with some skill, i don't want him anywhere near the seahawks,but the crap he has to go through, and the crap that is said about him is crazy. But at this point the ship had sailed, tebow will not be touched by any team for fear of the media circus that follows, part of it might be his fault, but not all of it, so much blame for his downfall has to be put with fans, the media, and being in a bad place at the wrong time.

    I am glad however the seahawks don't want him, just gotta feel bad for him as this is a rare case where the player is not kicked out of the nfl for drugs or being arrested..but for being average pretty much.
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  • We have five friggin' pages discussing a supposed interest in a player whom the decision maker summed up with "Uh, no," today?

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  • There is no evidence that the FO even contacted the Jets about Tebow it was a rumor that was never validated by the front office.
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  • Seahawk Sailor wrote:We have five friggin' pages discussing a supposed interest in a player whom the decision maker summed up with "Uh, no," today?

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    Lol, I was just thinking that.

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  • Sailor, what is a "friggin' page" and how is it different than a non-friggin' page?
    I'm confused...

    On topic, hey, I kinda like the dude. Might be a tight end someday. Pro'ly not, tho.
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  • General Manager wrote:There is no evidence that the FO even contacted the Jets about Tebow it was a rumor that was never validated by the front office.

    It was all captured on the Zapruder film, but the NFL is quietly killing all the witnesses and the film is locked away from public view.
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  • Don't be confused, Rick. Just let this aborted manbearpig amalgom of a thread just die the death it was supposed to before it was resurrected by blowhardedness.
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  • FlyingGreg wrote:Tebow...not surprised in the least. He's NOT an NFL caliber QB. Not even close.

    And he's never going to be. Nice kid though.
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  • I agree.
    Both this thread, and Tebow's NFL career must die...
    but seriously... Doesn't that qualify as an answer to our prayers from on High??


    Maybe aliens could help us all out and ab-duct tape him up & bury 'em in an endzone somewhere in Jersey... or is that, too, just wishful thinking, like the imminent end of the world 12/21/2012 Mayan Rapture thing...

    How about this to finish it...

    Tim Tebow becoming an NFL starter again, is likely to magically happen The Day After the Earth Stands Still, and the Universe itself spins around 'Him'.
    ROFLMAO!!!

    Tebow. What a joke. God bless him. I wish him well...
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