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Trade value? He was cut, Spokane. Put down the crack pipe.

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cool. But not 3 weeks ago. And the HAWKS WANTED HIM! So again, lets not act like the Hawks were not on his balls.


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THIS IS GOING TO SUCK FOR MOST OF YOU, BUT.........THE SEAHAWKS WANTED TEBOW AND CALLED ASKING FOR HIM (this Year!)

Seahawks | Unlikely to pursue Tim Tebow
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The Seattle Seahawks did look into the possibility of trading for New York Jets QB Tim Tebow but likely will not pursue him at this point.
Source: The Seattle Times - Danny O'Neil

Check the few articles that will talk about it. The hawks called KNOWING that they would have to give up picks for Tebow and STILL CALLED.

"Ah NO", is an answer that came after picking up 15 QBs, but his answer just a few weeks ago was "It depends if they will take the picks we offer for Tebow"

PC noticed that Tebow threw for an amazing 75% last year and said "Ill drop some picks on that" And he tried, But the Jets wanted to much for Tebow. It seems if they wanted to get rid of him, they would have worked out a deal.

But YES THE SEAHAWKS WANTED TEBOW, LETS NOT ACT LIKE THEY DIDN'T. - THEY CALLED AND THEY OFFERED PICKS


What the hell are you going on about? If you're referencing this article: http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2 ... wks06.html Nowhere does he reference trading picks for Tebow. He mentions the idiotic rumors by others that Seattle would do it because of our "read option offense".

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I'm not. You clearly are.

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Tebow should convert to FB.

It's the only chance he's got to stay in the NFL, imo.

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What the hell are you going on about? If you're referencing this article: http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2 ... wks06.html Nowhere does he reference trading picks for Tebow. He mentions the idiotic rumors by others that Seattle would do it because of our "read option offense".


Ya i'm trying to find in that article where it says we offered draft pics...said they expressed interest but he was not someone they were really considering... sounded like they had a group of guys they wanted to bring in and look at, and ultimately chose Quinn from that group.. they didn't even bring Tebow in for a look.. That alone should tell you they were really not considering him... that's what i got out of it anyways..

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lol. You pick one article and call it good. The facts are the facts, they called and offered picks. Trust me the media hates that guy and would not give him the respect of a team offering picks for him, unless they have to. They say the truth and then make backward lies.

The hawks called and offered picks for Tim (the hawks are not going to call on a trade and ask for him for free...DUH, of course they offered picks)


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When was the last time a team called on a trade and said can I have him for free?

Don't be a tool or a blind goat, they offered picks, and the Jets wanted more


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The Tebow FB talk is funny. Who says he can play FB...? No NFL team is going to take that chance.

The reality is, he's not an NFL player. There are tons of examples of guys who were studs in college and didn't pan out in the NFL.

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When was the last time a team called on a trade and said can I have him for free?

Don't be a tool or a blind goat, they offered picks, and the Jets wanted more


OK, i'll bite.

Now assuming someone did trade for him, he is owed $2,586,875 salary and $1,531,875 of that guaranteed. His contract made him a free agent in 2015. If someone claims him off waivers, that is how much that team will owe him.

If not one claims him, the Jets owe him his guaranteed money and any team who wants to can sign him to a new contract.

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lol. You pick one article and call it good. The facts are the facts, they called and offered picks. Trust me the media hates that guy and would not give him the respect of a team offering picks for him, unless they have to. They say the truth and then make backward lies.

The hawks called and offered picks for Tim (the hawks are not going to call on a trade and ask for him for free...DUH, of course they offered picks)


Could you post a source where it says we offered picks? Checking a price and making an offer are two very different things.

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I'm a little surprised he was so dismissive about it,


I'm not. Tebow has apparently been adamant that he's not switching positions, electing to stay at the one position he's proven that he's not capable of playing. Why court media frenzy stupidity for a guy who has abysmal accuracy?


Tebow already said he would be fine switching positions if that was how he stayed in the NFL.


I seem to recall recent reports that said the Jets gave Tebow's agent permission to seek a deal, and none materialized because teams were only interested in Tebow if he would switch from QB to a different position. :|

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And the HAWKS WANTED HIM!


You are a shining example of how newspaper/news article headlines mislead people into thinking factually incorrect things.

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I wish the Tebow talk would just go away, he isn't playing here or even in the NFL currently and even after the NFL draft, there is more Tebow talk all over NFL.com and the like. Ugh, worse than the "Honey Badger" media frenzy of the last couple of months.

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I wish the Tebow talk would just go away, he isn't playing here or even in the NFL currently and even after the NFL draft, there is more Tebow talk all over NFL.com and the like. Ugh, worse than the "Honey Badger" media frenzy of the last couple of months.


Biiiiiig difference, Mathieu actually has the skills his position requires.

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the only rumors were that we inquired about Tebow a month or so ago.


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Spokane, are you related to Tebow or something? This is the second thread I have seen you go all "One Man Tebow Army" with these asinine statements and arguments about Tebow. I'm tempted to say "give it up" but its pretty funny, so keep on fighting the good fight dude!


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Spokane, are you related to Tebow or something? This is the second thread I have seen you go all "One Man Tebow Army" with these asinine statements and arguments about Tebow. I'm tempted to say "give it up" but its pretty funny, so keep on fighting the good fight dude!


isn't he the one that once said the earth didn't rotate?

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lol. You pick one article and call it good. The facts are the facts, they called and offered picks. Trust me the media hates that guy and would not give him the respect of a team offering picks for him, unless they have to. They say the truth and then make backward lies.

The hawks called and offered picks for Tim (the hawks are not going to call on a trade and ask for him for free...DUH, of course they offered picks)


1.) The report says we "inquired" about Tebow, not that we "offered picks"
2.) NEWS FLASH: John Schnieder "inquires" about players all the time -it's his job. That's what any good GM does: keep track of which players might be available and what the price will be. I'm sure Schnieder probably "inquired" about every other guy on the Jets' roster while he had Izdik on the phone.
3.) Various reports say that the Jets were letting Tebow & his agent shop themselves the past couple weeks. Everyone knew he was going to be cut this offseason. They didn't cut him until after the draft. Connect the dots ... that means the Jets were looking to get anything for him, even if it was a conditional 7th rounder, and no team (including the 'Hawks) would give up even that insignificant a pick.

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Think it's safe to say we've all heard more than enough about this.

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My whole point was that PC/JS would not call the Jets unless they were willing to trade picks for your boy Tebow!!!

Can you get that? Does that register for you?


Hey ask yourself this....did you play football? Yeah well did PC give you call this year and say "Whats it going to take to get you in here"? Please. They only call on the players they want.

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Spokane, are you related to Tebow or something? This is the second thread I have seen you go all "One Man Tebow Army" with these asinine statements and arguments about Tebow. I'm tempted to say "give it up" but its pretty funny, so keep on fighting the good fight dude!



Technically, according to Einstein, if you pick the Earth as your frame of reference, the Earth doesn't spin and all the universe is spinning around it. it's called Relativity. The universe is spinning, relative to the earth. His example was even that if you're in an elevator, the elevator doesn't go up, the whole universe goes down, relative to you.

So yes, technically, the earth isn't spinning, relative to the rest of the universe.

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The earth is not spinning, but lets not get me kicked out of another fourm :)

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If it werent for all the crazy Tebow fans and the insane media coverage I would rather have him then Portis, Johnson or Quinn. But when those things come with it i'll stick with our no talent backups rather then bringing in a no talent backup who brings a circus.

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The earth is not spinning, but lets not get me kicked out of another fourm :)

Back to Tebew... (its funny when Tebow is the safe subject)


If it is, you should try that.

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If it werent for all the crazy Tebow fans and the insane media coverage I would rather have him then Portis, Johnson or Quinn. But when those things come with it i'll stick with our no talent backups rather then bringing in a no talent backup who brings a circus.


This is where I'm at with Tebow. He's not as horrible as people make him out to be, and he'd certainly be a better option as a back up QB than Curtis Painter, Jordan Palmer or any one of the jagoffs the Cardinals rolled out last year, but the distraction that "Tebowmania" brings is just not worth it. If you took the exact same guy with the same skills and named him "Dave Jones" or something, I'd be all for bringing him in as the 3rd QB, but Tim Tebow can stay the hell away from my football team.

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Spokane, are you related to Tebow or something? This is the second thread I have seen you go all "One Man Tebow Army" with these asinine statements and arguments about Tebow. I'm tempted to say "give it up" but its pretty funny, so keep on fighting the good fight dude!



Technically, according to Einstein, if you pick the Earth as your frame of reference, the Earth doesn't spin and all the universe is spinning around it. it's called Relativity. The universe is spinning, relative to the earth. His example was even that if you're in an elevator, the elevator doesn't go up, the whole universe goes down, relative to you.

So yes, technically, the earth isn't spinning, relative to the rest of the universe.


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Blah de blah blah Tebow blah blah de blah.


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If it werent for all the crazy Tebow fans and the insane media coverage I would rather have him then Portis, Johnson or Quinn. But when those things come with it i'll stick with our no talent backups rather then bringing in a no talent backup who brings a circus.


This is where I'm at with Tebow. He's not as horrible as people make him out to be, and he'd certainly be a better option as a back up QB than Curtis Painter, Jordan Palmer or any one of the jagoffs the Cardinals rolled out last year, but the distraction that "Tebowmania" brings is just not worth it. If you took the exact same guy with the same skills and named him "Dave Jones" or something, I'd be all for bringing him in as the 3rd QB, but Tim Tebow can stay the hell away from my football team.


Answer this question....How many NFL games can you or anyone else say were lost due to a player's off the field distractions?
What game can you say TO cost his team? How about CHAD#8? None, the distraction myth is caused to create drama/a problem where there is not one. The Circus myth is created by media for the media...who the freak is showing up? The Media, and then they complain about it. It goes to show you how far you have to push the truth to make it a lie.


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My whole point was that PC/JS would not call the Jets unless they were willing to trade picks for your boy Tebow!!!





Hey ask yourself this....did you play football? Yeah well did PC give you call this year and say "Whats it going to take to get you in here"? Please. They only call on the players they want.

Its time to grow up and deal with that your team wanted a player you didn't...who cares.


All that is available is that they inquired about the cost of Tebow in a trade, not that they offered those picks. You are making an incorrect inference that if a team checks the price of an item, that they automatically offer to pay a certain amount.

There is a HUGE difference between these two questions:

1. How much would it cost to trade for Tebow?
2. We will give you a 7th Rd Pick for Tebow, do you agree?

So again, would you please post source wherein they pose a similar question number 2?

What PC and JS WANT is a player's value. They were checking a players value, no more no less. They did not want Tebow. They wanted to know his value. And yes, they will unearth every stone for value, even posters on this site if they can perform in some aspect of football better than the value of somone on their current roster.

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The Tebow FB talk is funny. Who says he can play FB...? No NFL team is going to take that chance.

The reality is, he's not an NFL player. There are tons of examples of guys who were studs in college and didn't pan out in the NFL.


+1, Tebow is one of the worst players I've ever seen. The fact he get's so much love is beyond me. Trent Dilfer looks like an pro-bowler compared to TT.


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I believe Spokane is off his rocker, isn't he the one that once said the earth didn't rotate?

Technically, according to Einstein, if you pick the Earth as your frame of reference, the Earth doesn't spin and all the universe is spinning around it. it's called Relativity. The universe is spinning, relative to the earth. His example was even that if you're in an elevator, the elevator doesn't go up, the whole universe goes down, relative to you.

So yes, technically, the earth isn't spinning, relative to the rest of the universe.


Oh good god! just agree with me once!

ROFLMAO!!! Sorry dude, I couldn't resist.

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"Is Russell Wilson half the player RGIII is? Uh, no.

Are the Seattle Seahawks ever going to win a Superbowl? Uh, no.

Are the Washington Redskins the superior team in the NFL? Uh, yes."

I gently reminded him we've beaten the Skins three straight times in the playoffs, and that it was Wilson who tied Manning's TD pass record for a rookie and not RGIII, even though he was in an offense that ran the ball more than anyone else in the NFL.

Denial...


Denial...and nerves.

His offense was white bread, at best, but I have to say Griffin impressed me this past year. He's a better passer than I gave him credit for coming into the 12 draft. In fact, if I had a do-over, I'd say he's worth A 1st rd pick. As in ONE first rd pick, but I'd still be nervous every minute he's on the field. Wilson? in hindsight, I'd say he's the guy you give 3 1sts and your first born for. These Skin fans are going to try to convince themselves their (idiot) FO made a good deal in getting Griffin. It was actually a GREAT deal....for the Rams. Griff's a good kid, a true competitor and I wish him well (in his next occupation). I predicted he wouldn't see a full season this year...and I predict this is the last contract he will see in the NFL.

I wish the Rams would have taken him (and Skin fans will too).


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Last I checked, half of your "passes" being screens and shovels to the RB doesn't qualify as proving you can pass. I need to see more RG3 before judging him to be the next "Peyton Brady" QB superhero.

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Tebow completed 75% of his passes last year. Russell Wilson was way lower than that.

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Well hell, you just changed MY mind, Scotte!

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RolandDeschain wrote:
Well hell, you just changed MY mind, Scotte!


Conversion, one man at a time, is the Tebow Way.

Now that the Hawks have 35 running backs, Wilson is superfluous. Tebow is the only answer.

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Tebow completed 75% of his passes last year. Russell Wilson was way lower than that.


Very true (6/8?). ;)

Like many of our picks this draft, Tebow also has "off field issues". I say we bring him in. Anyone have any film on this guy?


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Maybe you can go to Canada and see him play.


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All that is available is that they inquired about the cost of Tebow in a trade, not that they offered those picks. You are making an incorrect inference that if a team checks the price of an item, that they automatically offer to pay a certain amount.


There is a huge difference between what I said..."The hawks were willing to trade picks for your boy Tebow" (and that is the truth, again P&J called knowing they would have to give up picks, and they still picked up the phone)

from what you wrote...
"that they automatically offer to pay a certain amount" (never going to happen, where did that even come from?)


They did not want Tebow. They wanted to know his value.
They were checking his value, but did not want the player? do you think we are 5 years old, do you have any clue how dumb that sounds? Calling for an item, asking the price, then saying "psych" I never wanted him. Why would you even offer that up?

You claim "They did not want Tebow, They wanted to know his value" Really? Everything online says they were looking into the player, nothing about the Seahawks looking at his value? Do you just make crap up? Give a source please of P or J saying "We are looking into Tim's value, not the player" LOL


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Maybe you can go to Canada and see him play.


They have Arena Football in Canada?


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