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It's down to Adrian Peterson and Barry Sanders. I'm voting Sanders; no disrespect to AP intended.

Thank the baby Jebus that whatever jerk was using testing automation software to spam votes for 49ers didn't get a 49ers player in the final two.

But I thought we wanted a 49er on the cover so they get hit by the curse?

indeed a double edged sword....

JesterHawk wrote:But I thought we wanted a 49er on the cover so they get hit by the curse?

I hate you.

Ha! No Seahawks either.

Edit : Good Stuff, Roland!

pehawk wrote:Now Rolands getting owned by 49er fans.

This is bad, real bad.

He really has turned into the Chone Figgens of .NET.

pehawk wrote:Now Rolands getting owned by 49er fans.

This is bad, real bad.

So Jester is a 49ers fan? Hmmm, explains a lot.

Also, why don't you and Scotte keep it in the shack? Stop bringing your brilliant parenting and downtalking of me into other forums.

RolandDeschain wrote:

pehawk wrote:Now Rolands getting owned by 49er fans.

This is bad, real bad.

So Jester is a 49ers fan? Hmmm, explains a lot.

Also, why don't you and Scotte keep it in the shack? Stop bringing your brilliant parenting and downtalking of me into other forums.

Lighten up, Francis! Ill delete it, just so I don't sidetrack what promises to be a compelling thread, but lighten up.

Sanders had this in the bag day one.

Wow...

I voted AP. I think he deserves it this year.

I'm sorry, but which 49ers player were we saying was on equal footing with the great Barry Sanders?

The Outfield wrote:I voted AP. I think he deserves it this year.

I'm not voting for HGH. Err, I mean, Adrian Peterson.

AP. he is one tough player. Back from a bad injury, rolls like a truck headed down hill without breaks.

RolandDeschain wrote:

The Outfield wrote:I voted AP. I think he deserves it this year.

I'm not voting for HGH. Err, I mean, Adrian Peterson.

Without any real proof, I'm not going to accuse him of anything. That said, the bulging of his eyes when he runs doesn't seem all that natural

Seahawk Sailor wrote:I'm sorry, but which 49ers player were we saying was on equal footing with the great Barry Sanders?

You don't think that Joe Montana or Jerry Rice are on equal footing with Barry Sanders?! You're right... They're at a level above.

60niners wrote:You don't think that Joe Montana or Jerry Rice are on equal footing with Barry Sanders?! You're right... They're at a level above.

Talk about being a homer. Equal footing, sure, good discussion to be had about that. A level above Barry Sanders? No effing way. If there's someone in this discussion that is a level above, it's Sanders, not Montana or Rice. Besides, Montana and Rice both benefited from each other; a great QB benefits from a great receiver, and vice-versa. Sanders never even had a dominant O-line to help him, or even a good team around him.

Seriously, if you want to put Sanders at a level below Montana and Rice, you need to keep that on your 49ers forums. Not here, or any other non-S.F. team's forums.

RolandDeschain wrote:

60niners wrote:You don't think that Joe Montana or Jerry Rice are on equal footing with Barry Sanders?! You're right... They're at a level above.

Talk about being a homer. Equal footing, sure, good discussion to be had about that. A level above Barry Sanders? No effing way. If there's someone in this discussion that is a level above, it's Sanders, not Montana or Rice. Besides, Montana and Rice both benefited from each other; a great QB benefits from a great receiver, and vice-versa. Sanders never even had a dominant O-line to help him, or even a good team around him.

Seriously, if you want to put Sanders at a level below Montana and Rice, you need to keep that on your 49ers forums. Not here, or any other non-S.F. team's forums.

I don't think he was being a homer. I don't think anybody was being a homer when they made the list of the top 100 players in the NFL of all time.

#1...

RolandDeschain wrote:

60niners wrote:You don't think that Joe Montana or Jerry Rice are on equal footing with Barry Sanders?! You're right... They're at a level above.

Talk about being a homer. Equal footing, sure, good discussion to be had about that. A level above Barry Sanders? No effing way. If there's someone in this discussion that is a level above, it's Sanders, not Montana or Rice. Besides, Montana and Rice both benefited from each other; a great QB benefits from a great receiver, and vice-versa. Sanders never even had a dominant O-line to help him, or even a good team around him.

Seriously, if you want to put Sanders at a level below Montana and Rice, you need to keep that on your 49ers forums. Not here, or any other non-S.F. team's forums.

Sanders was good, Jim Brown was great, Barrys dad agrees

Rude144 wrote:

RolandDeschain wrote:

60niners wrote:You don't think that Joe Montana or Jerry Rice are on equal footing with Barry Sanders?! You're right... They're at a level above.

Talk about being a homer. Equal footing, sure, good discussion to be had about that. A level above Barry Sanders? No effing way. If there's someone in this discussion that is a level above, it's Sanders, not Montana or Rice. Besides, Montana and Rice both benefited from each other; a great QB benefits from a great receiver, and vice-versa. Sanders never even had a dominant O-line to help him, or even a good team around him.

Seriously, if you want to put Sanders at a level below Montana and Rice, you need to keep that on your 49ers forums. Not here, or any other non-S.F. team's forums.

Sanders was good, Jim Brown was great, Barrys dad agrees

Barry Sanders holds the record for most rushes for negative yardage. It's not even close. That's how much credit his O-line gets. Barry was the greatest rusher of all time.

What a surprise, two more Niners fans think Barry Sanders was merely "good". God, the ego.

Imagine what Barry could have done behind a great O-Line

rlkats wrote:Imagine what Barry could have done behind a great O-Line

No kidding. They ignore that, and also ignore all the great team-building Walsh did for them. They also specialize in pretending their owner during the glory years wasn't as crooked as they come, and who knows what he did under the table to help his team. Sanders being overly loyal to the Lions and being on a crap team his whole career had no effect on his career, though.

God, can't even discuss stuff seriously with these guys. I'd have thought at least some of them would show respect for some all-time greats not related to the 49ers/Seahawks, but I guess I was wrong.

Um Roland just to let you know im a Niner fan. But I stoll agree with ya.

Ah, didn't realize. Either way, you're right, and an exception to the other Niners fans posting in this thread.

Barry Sanders behind a great line and team would have blown up every record in the book, IMO. A lot of people don't realize what a disadvantage he was at compared to the other few names people talk about for all-time great RBs...

First, Joe won 2 super bowls before Rice was even drafted. I always feel compelled to point this out bc it seems too many don't know that. With that aside, Joe was the best QB I ever saw, Rice the best WR and Sanders the best RB. If Sanders had, oh lets say Dallas's Oline, then he would have broken every record imaginable. 2500 yards? Maybe.

But it doesn't matter who is the best or not. Roland, you made the thread. Plus you are quick to jump onto Niners' fans for bringing up the glory days. This topic is just inviting someone to challenge you, which is what you must have set out to do.

Anyways, the only thing I really have a problem with is your assertion that Eddie D was the most crooked owner. He played by the rules and exploited them perfectly. Got the NFL to change the rules. can't fault him for that.

Sanders was good, Jim Brown was great, Barrys dad agrees

and barry sanders dad was an expert how exactly, because he was a Jim Brown Fan?

taking absolutely nothing away from Jim Brown, but in his day he was a man playing amongst boy's...

Put Barry behind the Dallas O Line, put Emmitt Behind Sanders O line, and you'd see Emmitt's rushing record shattered by A LOT and Dickersons single season record as well.... so your post should read Jim Brown great, Barry Sanders GOAT....

NorCal wrote:can't fault him for that.

Can't blame OJ Simpson, either, apparently.

Anyone saying that Rice isn't on the same level as Sanders should seriously stop talking about football

I get it, you hate the Niners (I do too) but your stupidity is really killing common sense

Shaz wrote:Anyone saying that Rice isn't on the same level as Sanders should seriously stop talking about football

I get it, you hate the Niners (I do too) but your stupidity is really killing common sense

Who said that? Nobody that I see. I said they're all around even, but said IF there's any one of the three that is a level above, it's Sanders. He's already considered one of the best 3 RBs ever, if not greatest of all time, and he was on a crappy team his whole career. Being able to play most or all of your career on a great overall team makes it a lot easier to break those records, and get those rings. Most of the 49ers fans are holding Barry Sanders's lack of rings against him. It's a team game.

My Niner hate is not the reason I'm saying this. Seriously.

RolandDeschain wrote:

Shaz wrote:Anyone saying that Rice isn't on the same level as Sanders should seriously stop talking about football

I get it, you hate the Niners (I do too) but your stupidity is really killing common sense

Who said that? Nobody that I see. I said they're all around even, but said IF there's any one of the three that is a level above, it's Sanders. He's already considered one of the best 3 RBs ever, if not greatest of all time, and he was on a crappy team his whole career. Being able to play most or all of your career on a great overall team makes it a lot easier to break those records, and get those rings. Most of the 49ers fans are holding Barry Sanders's lack of rings against him. It's a team game.

My Niner hate is not the reason I'm saying this. Seriously.

He was on a crappy team the whole time? Hmmmm, he really wasn't. That early 90's Detroit team was actually pretty damn good until the Front Office blew it up for some odd reason, if they would have stuck with that team, the Lions challenge the Cowboys and Niners for NFC supremacy in those years

Shaz wrote:He was on a crappy team the whole time? Hmmmm, he really wasn't. That early 90's Detroit team was actually pretty damn good until the Front Office blew it up for some odd reason, if they would have stuck with that team, the Lions challenge the Cowboys and Niners for NFC supremacy in those years

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Detroit did what they've been doing for a long time; show a glimpse of skill, then find a way to screw it up.

I'd rather have Kaep on the cover than Barry or AD.

Get that curse going

I vote Adrian Peterson. 'Cuz he'll be brought up from the minor leagues team and playing for the Seahawks in 2 years like Bevell, Rice, and Harvin...

kigenzun wrote:I vote Adrian Peterson. 'Cuz he'll be brought up from the minor leagues team and playing for the Seahawks in 2 years like Bevell, Rice, and Harvin...

He's a year older than Beast Mode. He'll be 30 in two years. No thanks.

I was joking.

I'm glad it's Barry. No Hawks, no Niners, no curse for either of us.

As to the great debate going on - I agree with Roland (it pains me to say that) that Joe, Jerry, and Barry are equals in my book. All GOATs as far as I'm concerned.

Okay, someone shoot me now for agreeing with Roland. Please.

kigenzun wrote:I was joking.

He knows. He was just making sure everyone else knew, too.

RIP Barry Sanders #maddencurse #itsreal #rolandknowsithejustscurred

AbsolutNET wrote:He knows. He was just making sure everyone else knew, too.

You really need to get rid of your hard-on over me. It's not like there was anything in his post suggesting it was a joke.