Shadowhawk wrote: Marvin49 wrote:
Shadowhawk wrote:Green Bay gameplanned like they thought Alex Smith was still starting. Just because their coaching staff utterly failed to do their job, it doesn't constitute proof that this was all some master plan of San Francisco's to hide their playoff schemes over the last few weeks of the season.
To buy this argument you have to believe that SF--a team that, as Marvin so thoroughly pointed out, was suffering injuries to key players and exhausted after two straight road games--was willing to risk losing out on a badly-needed first round bye and even the chance to host a playoff game just to keep their cards close to the vest. Not buying it.
You not buying it doesn't make it less true.
I realize you guys don't pay as much attention to the 49ers, interviews with players and coaches and the like (I wouldn't expect you to), but its pretty common knowledge that the 49ers spent alot of time in the off week before the Packer game on installing a number of permiations of the Pistol and read-option. The offense they ran in Seattle was vanilla. That doesn't mean that they didn't try to win. It doesn't mean that they weren't throwing deep.
It also doesn't mean that the score would have been any different had they NOT been running a vanilla O. It just means that they kept some things in reserve for later games.
BTW...this isn't the first time they have done this. He often roles out exotic plays and then goes vanilla another week. He'll throw to a DT one week do nothing close to that the next.
This strategy worked against GB. They had no idea what was coming. It clearly DIDN'T work in Seattle. Had it cost them the division it would have been a huge mistake. Thankfully, it didn't and they surprised the hell out of GB. I just remember the stunned look on Clay Mattews face after the game saying that they hadn't seen any of that stuff on tape.
You haven't proven that it is true. If you are correct that Roman came up with some new tricks for the Packers game, good for him. But the Yahoo article that launched this thread wasn't talking about Roman's game plan for the Packers game, it was making the claim A) that he dialed back the playbook in the last two games of the season and B) did it to keep from showing his hand to potential playoff teams. Not the same thing; for all we know, Roman sat down after the regular season and said, "the usual stuff isn't working. I need to try something new." All you have proved is that he tried some new things in the playoffs. You haven't proven that he ran a "vanilla O" to end the regular season. And the reason why I am skeptical that he did is because that would be a very foolish thing to do with a division title and a first-round bye up for grabs.
You're right that I don't pay as much attention to the 49ers as you do, but I have been a Seahawks season ticket holder for 14 years, and I can honestly say I have never seen a quarterback look so rattled and shaken as Kaepernick looked last December. I don't say it to slam him--I expect he will put together a much better game in Seattle this season--but he looked completely lost out there. What you call a vanilla gameplan, I call the result of a quarterback who, for that game at least, was completely overmatched.
LOL. OK, you went there. ;-)
MAN am I tired of hearing that Kaep was SHAKEN. No. He wasn't. Did he play well? No. Did he have issues getting the ball off on time? Yes. That is much more a function tho of the way the offense works and an inability to get plays in on-time....and neither of those is a compliment to the 49ers.
Russell Wilson played HORRIBLY in SF, but I don't think he was shaken. He simply didn't play well.
On any given snap, then 49ers get to the line, run a number of shifts (more than any other NFL team), and then call out "Let it Roll", or "Kill, Kill, Kill". Essentially, they ALWAYS have 2 plays called in the huddle. The point here is to wait for the D to declare and run the clock all the way down to a few seconds before snapping the ball. Alex Smith became a master at this, but it wasn't always so. Harbaugh actually had THREE plays at the line for Andrew Luck at Stanford. We'll see if he does the same with Kaep now that he gets a full off-season as the starter. This differs from the conventional Audible system. This is something that happens on every single snap...PLUS they have audibles.
Very often, especially on the road, there wasn't enough time to get the call in, relay it, get the shifts in...and then get the ball off. This did not only happen in Seattle and actually is one of the reasons the 49ers lost the Super Bowl. They had a QB run set and Kaep likely would have scored on that final series but he couldn't get the ball off. They also had to call a timeout earlier in the half because of it and they could desparately have used it at the end of the game.
None of this was because he was "shaken". Seattle fans like to say that it was, largely because they see their own QB as unshakable and would like to use it as a point of emphasis when comparing the two QBs.
Kaep doesn't get shaken. If you knew much about him, you'd understand that. He didn't shake when opened the game with a pick 6 vs Green Bay, he didn't get shaken down 17 points in Atlanta, and he didn't shake when down 22 points in the Super Bowl. Don't believe me? how about Terrell Suggs.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj_9ackcS6k
Alot of the issues he had getting the ball off all season were mostly related to inexperience, not being shaken. Lets not forget that the Super Bowl was ONLY his 10th NFL start. That's unheard of.