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 Post subject: Re: 49ers sign Nnamdi Asomugha
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How in the world did they get him so cheap? $1.35m, none of it guaranteed.


Look at his ranking and overall performance for 2012.

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How in the world did they get him so cheap? $1.35m, none of it guaranteed.


Look at his ranking and overall performance for 2012.


I see your post now and understand.


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BREAKING: The 49ers have reached an agreement on a 1 yr deal with former Eagles and Raiders CB Nnamdi Asomugha (via @AdamSchefter)


It's a move out of desperation for the Whiners, he is washed up and won't be effective at all in my opinion. Nothing to see here.


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I'm going to laugh when Wilson burns him. He did nothing in Philly, and I doubt the 49ers are going to play him the exact same way Oakland did. Plus, Oakland had an absolute nobody at the other CB position, so even being a decent CB would have greatly reduced his targets. I may have to go post on the 49ers Web Zone with his Pro Football Focus stats.

LOL, Nnamdi Asomugah ranked 101st out of the 113 CBs to see at least 25% of snaps last year in the NFL. That is not just bad, that is horrible. For pass coverage specifically, he's 103rd. Pathetic.


I'm just going off memory but I thought I saw 14TD's against him last year. Please let him play zone coverage in SF.

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He'll be 32 when the season starts, makes sense, the whiners are loading up on the over the hill vets.

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I'm going to laugh when Wilson burns him. He did nothing in Philly, and I doubt the 49ers are going to play him the exact same way Oakland did. Plus, Oakland had an absolute nobody at the other CB position, so even being a decent CB would have greatly reduced his targets. I may have to go post on the 49ers Web Zone with his Pro Football Focus stats.

LOL, Nnamdi Asomugah ranked 101st out of the 113 CBs to see at least 25% of snaps last year in the NFL. That is not just bad, that is horrible. For pass coverage specifically, he's 103rd. Pathetic.


I'm just going off memory but I thought I saw 14TD's against him last year. Please let him play zone coverage in SF.


PFF has him giving up 5. (3 for Sherman.) PFF analyzes all plays on their own, though. For DBs, there are plenty of times where they appear to give up a TD but it wasn't necessarily their fault; compensating for someone else's zone coverage fail, or what have you. It's not a great stat for tracking CBs, honestly.

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Also, Sherman allowed 44.4% of passes thrown his way to be caught. Asomugah allowed 66.7%. That's a pretty gigantic discrepancy.

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Also, Sherman allowed 44.4% of passes thrown his way to be caught. Asomugah allowed 66.7%. That's a pretty gigantic discrepancy.

Not really. In one game that could be a half a catch. I hate football stats.


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Asomugha is SO 2009...

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As much as a hate the 9ers this is a brillant signing. for 1.35 m plus another 1.35 in incentives.
The dude was Dominant as an Oakland Raider. and the Raiders as we all know are horrible. Yet I argued that he was better then Revis two years ago because he was that good.
Then scheme change and move to the east coast doomed this guy as he was one of the worst corners in the league.

now he is joining an already reall good 49ers defense , I expect this guy to bounce back big time.


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Here's an easy way to solve this. If we signed Nnamdi for 1.35 mil no guarantee would you be happy? Yes you would. So that means this bad for us and a good move by SF. It happens. If you didn't want him here for 1.35 million your crazy.

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Here's an easy way to solve this. If we signed Nnamdi for 1.35 mil no guarantee would you be happy? Yes you would. So that means this bad for us and a good move by SF. It happens. If you didn't want him here for 1.35 million your crazy.



He sounds like he has quite a chip on his shoulder considering reports say he requested to not have guaranteed money.

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Huh? Culliver's ranked 29th overall, 21st in pass coverage per Pro Football Focus. I'm seriously wondering about your ability to read basic stats.

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There's the whole list. Richard Sherman, by the way, ranked 2nd overall and 1st - by a LARGE margin - in pass coverage. Nobody else even hit the 20s for pass coverage, but he was rated 26.4.


What amazes me is Antoine Winfield being ranked #1 overall. I knew he was an excellent run-stopper and tackler at CB, but didn't realize he'd be well-rounded enough overall to be #1, especially at his age.

That would be AWESOME if due to his age and the market for FAs, we were able to sign Antoine Winfield to a similar deal to what the 49ers gave to Asomugha. He sounds like he'd make a BEASTLY slot CB for us on a one year, incentives-laden deal, and improve our run defense.

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Here's an easy way to solve this. If we signed Nnamdi for 1.35 mil no guarantee would you be happy? Yes you would. So that means this bad for us and a good move by SF. It happens. If you didn't want him here for 1.35 million your crazy.

Every CB on our roster ranks significantly higher than him. I would not like him even for veteran minimum after seeing his stats, but you probably won't believe me.

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I think this is a depth signing like many have stated on here.. unless he does great in training camp, Culliver did horrible in the super bowl so this will be good competition. i find it interesting about the no guaranteed money. I think any team in the NFL would take a shot at this guy for that chump change... unless your jerry jones damn idiot spent 100+ million on a sh*tty QB.


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I think it is a good signing for the 49ers at 1.35 million...

Anyways, in a response to Roland over at the niner boards I had to laugh because one of them stated "Us 49er fans have been watching football too, believe it or not, over the last two years; we have not been encased in ice, or comatose. We are well aware of what happened to Asomugha and the Eagles over the last two seasons".

Sounds about right because there wasn't a single damn niner fan to be found three years ago.

Clearly he was talking about the Eagles Asomugha signing, but it was poorly worded and in a way true. I don't think many niner fans were paying attention up until recently.

Also I think you hurt their feelings, Roland..


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He could cost them ZERO if he doesn't make the cut... amazing signing with absolutely no risk.


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He's basically the same age as Trufant and was significantly worse than him statistically.

Insignificant pick up.


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Good depth signing for basically nothing. By all accounts he was misused terribly in Philly by an OL coach posing as D coordinator.

The Niners will use him correctly, as we possess one of the best staffs in football.

He won't be Oakland Raiders Nnamdi anymore most likely, as he's older now and probably has lost a step or two. However I think you'll see him perform somewhere in the middle, ie an acceptable starter/great backup. Especially with two healthy Smiths rushing the passer.


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Good depth signing for basically nothing. By all accounts he was misused terribly in Philly by an OL coach posing as D coordinator.

The Niners will use him correctly, as we possess one of the best staffs in football.

He won't be Oakland Raiders Nnamdi anymore most likely, as he's older now and probably has lost a step or two. However I think you'll see him perform somewhere in the middle, ie an acceptable starter/great backup. Especially with two healthy Smiths rushing the passer.


If he reverts close to his form back from his Oakland days, you guys will have had a great steal. If he doesn't, your financial commitment to his is basically zero, so congrats on that.

Although your team will have to watch out for his effect on the locker room. I've read reports on NFL.com of him being a bit detached and cold towards his past teammates, eating lunch separately, stopping teammates in mid-sentence to say he didn't want to talk with them anymore, etc.

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LOL, Nnamdi Asomugah ranked 101st out of the 113 CBs to see at least 25% of snaps last year in the NFL. That is not just bad, that is horrible. For pass coverage specifically, he's 103rd. Pathetic.


It's bad when the 3 corners we had on our roster last year (Greer, Robinson and White) and our new addition (Lewis) all ranked higher than Nnamdi when we had the same problem, man-corners in a zone scheme. :lol:

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Hahahaha, that was quick. I'm already banned. What scrubs. I was even nice when I posted it.


LOL, I seen that! I was going to add you on there and share my greetings (in addition to maybe trolling a little :stirthepot: ) but I went to your profile and you were banned. LOL. :lol:

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As much as a hate the 9ers this is a brillant signing. for 1.35 m plus another 1.35 in incentives.
The dude was Dominant as an Oakland Raider. and the Raiders as we all know are horrible. Yet I argued that he was better then Revis two years ago because he was that good.
Then scheme change and move to the east coast doomed this guy as he was one of the worst corners in the league.

now he is joining an already reall good 49ers defense , I expect this guy to bounce back big time.


The scheme change is overblown, when Castillo got fired the Eagles moved back to a man to man defense and Nnamdi still struggled. He is what he is, a decent but not great corner.


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Roland, you got banned for providing useful information? lol


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First thoughts were - he's past it. Then I saw the terms of the deal. If he sucks when he comes in, they cut him - no loss. If he's anywhere near his best - what a steal. I hate to say it but they've got a nice, nice deal.

Not our sort of player, so I'm not too gutted we didn't try to get him.


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Watch me get flamed/called many names/banned:

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Took em only 4 posts to bring up "adderal", LMAO!

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Hahahaha, that was quick. I'm already banned. What scrubs. I was even nice when I posted it.



They banned you? That's some bullshit, really. I left the webzone years ago...that place is the black hole as far as Niner boards. Even the .com boards have gotten ridiculously anal lately, having to sign-in to view the boards and things of that nature. I go elsewhere to talk about the Niners these days...

As far as Aso, its a meh signing. It doesn't make us better ,talent-wise, it may make us deeper however. Allows us not to have to press a rookie into action if he isnt ready. Aso is no longer a very good starter. But I think he could be a very good 3rd or 4th CB, if motivated. He wasn't guaranteed anything....money nor a starting gig, not even a roster spot so I supposed that's great motivation. We shall see...

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Good signing for them imo. Chance to compete and prove he isn't washed up, and the contract is practically nothing.


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Not sure why you guys quote/monkey with 49erswebzone.

It's not the official message board for the Niners.

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Good depth signing for basically nothing. By all accounts he was misused terribly in Philly by an OL coach posing as D coordinator.

The Niners will use him correctly, as we possess one of the best staffs in football.

He won't be Oakland Raiders Nnamdi anymore most likely, as he's older now and probably has lost a step or two. However I think you'll see him perform somewhere in the middle, ie an acceptable starter/great backup. Especially with two healthy Smiths rushing the passer.


If he reverts close to his form back from his Oakland days, you guys will have had a great steal. If he doesn't, your financial commitment to his is basically zero, so congrats on that.

Although your team will have to watch out for his effect on the locker room. I've read reports on NFL.com of him being a bit detached and cold towards his past teammates, eating lunch separately, stopping teammates in mid-sentence to say he didn't want to talk with them anymore, etc.


Harbaugh does NOT put up with that ish. First sign of it and he's toast, having paid him $0 - and Nnamdi knows it. He CHOSE to sign here (over NO) for pennies on the dollar, if there is a dollar that is. I think he'll play his damndest, whether it's good play or not remains to be seen.

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I'm guessing he really just couldn't get guaranteed money from anyone and the 49ers let him spin his story about requesting it, lol.

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I know. I'm banned from there, too. For the same reason, actually; posting some stats, rofl. This was like 3 years ago, though. Haven't tried to go back.

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Good depth signing for basically nothing. By all accounts he was misused terribly in Philly by an OL coach posing as D coordinator.

The Niners will use him correctly, as we possess one of the best staffs in football.

Wait, is that the same staff that doesn't rotate defensive players and let a high draft pick ride the bench all season?

For some reason, I'm flashing to the opening to Life of Brian, and Brian's mom's assessment of the Three Wise Men and their activities:

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I'm guessing he really just couldn't get guaranteed money from anyone and the 49ers let him spin his story about requesting it, lol.

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Not sure why you guys quote/monkey with 49erswebzone.

It's not the official message board for the Niners.

This is:

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I know. I'm banned from there, too. For the same reason, actually; posting some stats, rofl. This was like 3 years ago, though. Haven't tried to go back.



Yeah, I heard there were some pretty snotty Mods back in the day. It's a cool place now. Just gotta watch the raw jokes and language there, 49ers allow us to be the "official" board - with restrictions. If one can behave properly, it's a good time. We have many members that are fans of other teams there cause it's a fun place during the workday - passes the time. Including a few from here, the restrictions make it SFW, lol

anyway, back on topic.....

Not sure I like Nnamdi, seems the TO type. Maybe Harbs can fix em!

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Hahahaha, that was quick. I'm already banned. What scrubs. I was even nice when I posted it.



They banned you? That's some bullshit, really. I left the webzone years ago...that place is the black hole as far as Niner boards. Even the .com boards have gotten ridiculously anal lately, having to sign-in to view the boards and things of that nature. I go elsewhere to talk about the Niners these days...

As far as Aso, its a meh signing. It doesn't make us better ,talent-wise, it may make us deeper however. Allows us not to have to press a rookie into action if he isnt ready. Aso is no longer a very good starter. But I think he could be a very good 3rd or 4th CB, if motivated. He wasn't guaranteed anything....money nor a starting gig, not even a roster spot so I supposed that's great motivation. We shall see...



There are guys on the .com board doing their best to cry about getting banned on this board. Because as you know, if anyone is glad to hear Pro-Seahawk news from a Seahawks fan, it is the .com board. Where you can't even READ it without being logged in. I actually like some of the guys there, but there is a lot of hyper-sensitivity going on the SF boards these days. The Webzone banned some old dude for talking nice about Russell Wilson, he was an oldschool Niner fan.

As for the signing?...... Championship! Probably as good as or better than Tru. LOL.

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I'm guessing he really just couldn't get guaranteed money from anyone and the 49ers let him spin his story about requesting it, lol.

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Not sure why you guys quote/monkey with 49erswebzone.

It's not the official message board for the Niners.

This is:

http://forums.49ers.com/index.php

I know. I'm banned from there, too. For the same reason, actually; posting some stats, rofl. This was like 3 years ago, though. Haven't tried to go back.



Yeah, I heard there were some pretty snotty Mods back in the day. It's a cool place now. Just gotta watch the raw jokes and language there, 49ers allow us to be the "official" board - with restrictions. If one can behave properly, it's a good time. We have many members that are fans of other teams there cause it's a fun place during the workday - passes the time. Including a few from here, the restrictions make it SFW, lol


Actually its not. The .com board used to be a very good forum but over the years the posters have become very fair-weather and just plain ignorant on alot of levels. Most of the old-timers who brought good, intelligent insight moved on because it just became pointless being heard through the rhetoric. Now its over-run with irrational thought and knee-jerk, grandiose posturing by the majority. Both the .com boards and the webzone are shells of their former self. Just my opinion of course, but one I've seen echoed quite a few times by Niner fans who used to frequent both forums.

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Hahahaha, that was quick. I'm already banned. What scrubs. I was even nice when I posted it.



They banned you? That's some bullshit, really. I left the webzone years ago...that place is the black hole as far as Niner boards. Even the .com boards have gotten ridiculously anal lately, having to sign-in to view the boards and things of that nature. I go elsewhere to talk about the Niners these days...

As far as Aso, its a meh signing. It doesn't make us better ,talent-wise, it may make us deeper however. Allows us not to have to press a rookie into action if he isnt ready. Aso is no longer a very good starter. But I think he could be a very good 3rd or 4th CB, if motivated. He wasn't guaranteed anything....money nor a starting gig, not even a roster spot so I supposed that's great motivation. We shall see...



There are guys on the .com board doing their best to cry about getting banned on this board. Because as you know, if anyone is glad to hear Pro-Seahawk news from a Seahawks fan, it is the .com board. Where you can't even READ it without being logged in. I actually like some of the guys there, but there is a lot of hyper-sensitivity going on the SF boards these days. The Webzone banned some old dude for talking nice about Russell Wilson, he was an oldschool Niner fan.


Yeah, they seem to be extremely sensitive these days. I lurk from time to time but I rarely ever post there anymore.

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As much as it sickens me to say it, might be a diamond signing for hardouche and company. Nnamdi got LOST in zone coverage in Philly, but on the rare occasions they did have him in man he was fine. Aside from the Seahawks guess who else plays a lot of man? SF.

Just happy it isn't Revis :)

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[quote="RolandDeschain"]Hahahaha, that was quick. I'm already banned. What scrubs. I was even nice when I posted it.



They banned you? That's some bullshit, really. I left the webzone years ago...that place is the black hole as far as Niner boards. Even the .com boards have gotten ridiculously anal lately, having to sign-in to view the boards and things of that nature. I go elsewhere to talk about the Niners these days...

As far as Aso, its a meh signing. It doesn't make us better ,talent-wise, it may make us deeper however. Allows us not to have to press a rookie into action if he isnt ready. Aso is no longer a very good starter. But I think he could be a very good 3rd or 4th CB, if motivated. He wasn't guaranteed anything....money nor a starting gig, not even a roster spot so I supposed that's great motivation. We shall see...



There are guys on the .com board doing their best to cry about getting banned on this board. Because as you know, if anyone is glad to hear Pro-Seahawk news from a Seahawks fan, it is the .com board. Where you can't even READ it without being logged in. I actually like some of the guys there, but there is a lot of hyper-sensitivity going on the SF boards these days. The Webzone banned some old dude for talking nice about Russell Wilson, he was an oldschool Niner fan.


Yeah, they seem to be extremely sensitive these days. I lurk from time to time but I rarely ever post there anymore.[/quote]

They actually remind me a lot of this board sometimes. You have managed to last here for a good while and while thick skinned, you are capable of duking it out and not getting banned. Maybe the next time you visit them you can give them examples. Heck, I won't hassle ya because the 757 was my favorite plane to build until they quit making them.

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pretty sure hes from the bay area, niners got the hometown discount. Man these 9er - Hawk games are gonna be epic!


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Huh? Culliver's ranked 29th overall, 21st in pass coverage per Pro Football Focus. I'm seriously wondering about your ability to read basic stats.

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There's the whole list. Richard Sherman, by the way, ranked 2nd overall and 1st - by a LARGE margin - in pass coverage. Nobody else even hit the 20s for pass coverage, but he was rated 26.4.


What amazes me is Antoine Winfield being ranked #1 overall. I knew he was an excellent run-stopper and tackler at CB, but didn't realize he'd be well-rounded enough overall to be #1, especially at his age.

That would be AWESOME if due to his age and the market for FAs, we were able to sign Antoine Winfield to a similar deal to what the 49ers gave to Asomugha. He sounds like he'd make a BEASTLY slot CB for us on a one year, incentives-laden deal, and improve our run defense.


Why in the world would Seattle want another corner?


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Why in the world would Seattle want another corner?


For the same reasons why San Francisco added Nnamdi Asomugha even though they have Rogers, Brown, and Culliver.

For added depth/insurance. Both the Seahawks and 49ers are, by and large, the two most "complete" and well-balanced teams in the entire league. Neither of us are in any real NEED for multiple positions. We're both just looking to improve what we already have, and have the luxury of picking the best players available in FA and the draft.

Although the Seahawks have arguably the best secondary in football, we could always use some improvement in the nickel cornerback position to defend those quick slot receivers. Although Marcus Trufant wasn't BAD per se, he wasn't eye-popping either. Adding Antoine Winfield to our secondary would add yet another extremely physical CB who is a sure tackler that will enhance our run defense further. He is also above average in pass coverage, so it's not like he'll be a one-trick pony.

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Why in the world would Seattle want another corner?


Lol, good question. We're spoiled?

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Whichever 49er fan called this signing "amazing"....what are you on?

Good signing no doubt. Guy who can play well, no risk for the 9ers, but let's not pretend there's a ton of upside here.

Did the Eagles misuse him? Sure, a bit. Were the Raiders teams he was on so bad with secondaries so awful that passing to him was less of a fear and more of "why not just pass to the totally open guy over here?" type scenario? Yes.

The thing with Aso is that he was never close to as good as he was made out to be. He wasn't targeted because he never needed to be, not because he was some sort of shutdown corner. He's a decent corner when playing well, but he was never elite. This signing doesn't do anything to affect my opinion of SF this year, and I wouldn't pencil this guy in as a starter in San Fran. He can use the sidelines to his advantage and perhaps push another SF corner inside in nickel packages, but that's it. I wouldn't have liked him for the Hawks for that reason, he can play outside alright if you got a guy you can move in, but he won't play inside well, he won't play zone well, and he won't shutdown solid receivers.


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How in the world did they get him so cheap? $1.35m, none of it guaranteed.


Im confused on why he got paid in the first place. 15 interceptions in 10 years, One year he had 8, he avg 1 a year every other year, 3 years with more than 10 defended passes.

I never saw the hype.


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How in the world did they get him so cheap? $1.35m, none of it guaranteed.


Im confused on why he got paid in the first place. 15 interceptions in 10 years, One year he had 8, he avg 1 a year every other year, 3 years with more than 10 defended passes.

I never saw the hype.

Because number ones were pretty much going to do nothing vs the Raiders. How do you get interceptons when they won't throw your way?

Put away your stats, they are tricking you. Nnamdi might be getting slower and older, but he was damn good.

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Not to mention INT stats kinda suck and shouldn't be used when evaluating DB's (too much). Mark Carrier...that's all I'll say.

Very few CB's, as in 5 during my lifetime, have ever been able to "create" an interception. Most of them come from bad QB decisions or great DC play-calling.


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How in the world did they get him so cheap? $1.35m, none of it guaranteed.


Im confused on why he got paid in the first place. 15 interceptions in 10 years, One year he had 8, he avg 1 a year every other year, 3 years with more than 10 defended passes.

I never saw the hype.

Because number ones were pretty much going to do nothing vs the Raiders. How do you get interceptons when they won't throw your way?

Put away your stats, they are tricking you. Nnamdi might be getting slower and older, but he was damn good.


Pretty much this. When you are a true shutdown corner like Sanders, Revis and Nnamdi used to be, quarterbacks rarely throw it to the man you are covering. A #1 WR becomes nothing more than a decoy for most of the game.


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