Register    Login    Forum    Search    FAQ    Contact Us  Your donations are greatly appreciated! Donate  Chat Room

Board index » SEAHAWKS.NET - THE VOICE OF THE 12TH MAN » [ NFL NATION ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 192 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:00 pm 
NET Bench Warmer
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:21 pm
Posts: 44
Somebody must have dosed my coffee at work today or something because I could swear there is a Seahawks fan on this board trying to argue that Tim Tebow is almost as good as Russell Wilson. Would somebody please tell me this is a running joke so I'll sleep better tonight?


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:44 pm 
* NET Moderator *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:35 pm
Posts: 18457
Location: Milwaukie, Oregon
I'd rather give Vince Young another shot.

_________________
Image


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:19 pm 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:26 am
Posts: 1522
Tebow is one of the worst passers the league has seen in the last 20 years, easily. And I don't even think he's that good of a runner! The playoff win argument doesn't work because, QBs don't win games, teams do. We might as well sign Seneca Wallace who is much better at passing, and is much more versatile. Can even catch the ball and return punts.

_________________
----


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:09 pm 
* El Primo *
* El Primo *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:52 pm
Posts: 5222
Location: Skagit County, WA
Spokane wrote:
LymonHawk wrote:
Spokane wrote:
Yes to Tebow as a Seahawk! He is what we need! Or do you know more then PC about the team? If so blab on why we don't need him.


Do you have a link where PC says he wants Tebow? Or do you have a special 'source'?


No where did I say "Pete said yes to Tebow" It is stated everywhere that Pete has said " I want a guy like Wilson"
No other QB is as close to Wilson as Tebow. You should know that and not nit pick.


Nit pick? How is Tebow closer to RW than any other QB? He can't throw the stinking ball!

Nor does Tebow have Wilson's brains or commitment....if he did, he would have changed that horrible throwing motion by now.

I'd rather see Seneca in a 'Hawk uni, before I'd see Tebow in one! :stirthepot:

_________________
If you're walking on thin ice, you might as well dance.................................................Mom


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:16 pm 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:50 pm
Posts: 499
Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:33 pm 
* El Primo *
* El Primo *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:52 pm
Posts: 5222
Location: Skagit County, WA
Carmon1274 wrote:
Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


You're kidding right? If someone disagrees with you they become a hater? LOL!

_________________
If you're walking on thin ice, you might as well dance.................................................Mom


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:38 pm 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
Carmon1274 wrote:
Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


Tebow has a 49% career completion rate. What makes you think he CAN throw?

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:05 am 
* NET Injury Guru *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:56 am
Posts: 1521
Location: Poulsbo, WA
Carmon1274 wrote:
Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


Did you watch the game against the Hawks this year? Tebow had difficulty completing a bubble screen pass with zero pressure around him. It was almost embarrassing to watch.

_________________
Image

"There is no delay of game. We did not let the team know we were scratching our balls"


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:44 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
LymonHawk wrote:
Carmon1274 wrote:
Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


You're kidding right? If someone disagrees with you they become a hater? LOL!


Throw the glasses on! He did not say "if you disagree with me then you are a hater"
He said "If you still say he can't throw then you are a hater."

Is that true? Yes! How many people would say George Blanda could not throw? None. So why throw Tebow under the "can't throw" Bus while having better numbers? Hate!

Its not rocket science people, its all about an agenda.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:54 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
SacHawk2.0 wrote:
Carmon1274 wrote:
Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


Tebow has a 49% career completion rate. What makes you think he CAN throw?


Just because you write something, that does mean it holds value.
The truth holds value, and someone who distorts the truth is not trusted.

What is his Job? Throwing the ball
What has he been paid millions by muti teams to do? Throw the ball
What did he do in high school/college? Throw the ball

Thats what the guy does, and he did it VERY WELL last year!

HE HIT HIS TARGETS WHEN ASKED (75% in 2012). Thats why I know he can throw.

When a guy does his job better then the others, and someone turns and says, "He sucks" Thats a hater.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:55 am
Posts: 757
Tebow ain't worth signing, and he ain't worth hating. Let him rot on the Jets and get on with life, he isn't the center of it.

_________________
Last edited by Russell Wilson on Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:20 pm, edited 29-3 times in total.
Last edited by NFC Champion Russell Wilson on Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:14 pm, edited 23-17 times in total.
Last edited by World Champion Russell Wilson on Sun Feb 2, 2014 7:14 pm, edited 43-8 times in total.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:03 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
Spokane wrote:

Is that true? Yes! How many people would say George Blanda could not throw? None. So why throw Tebow under the "can't throw" Bus while having better numbers? Hate!

Its not rocket science people, its all about an agenda.


Dude, you're making an apples and oranges comparison. For comparisons sake here are George Blanda's career stats.

1911 of 4007 (47%) for 26,920 yards and 236 TD's. Do you know how long it took him to do that?

26 years

Do you know how many int's he had? 277. That's 41 more INT's than TD's.

You're saying that if Blanda is a hall of famer then Tebow is for sure a good QB because their numbers are comparable? C'mon man.

Blanda was good for the era he played in. He would not make an NFL squad today. The game is so much different than when Blanda played, the offenses and defenses are both far more complex. Just the terminology can be mind blowing.

Spokane wrote:

Thats what the guy does, and he did it VERY WELL last year!

HE HIT HIS TARGETS WHEN ASKED (75% in 2012). Thats why I know he can throw.



Why do you think 8 passing attempts is relevant? Seriously. Golden Tate completed 100% of the passes he attempted last year? Why don't we just make him the backup QB?

Tebow belongs at home on the couch.

And the only person here with an "agenda" is you and your trolling ways.

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Last edited by SacHawk2.0 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:07 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:04 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
Carmon1274 wrote:
Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


I can tell you why they still hate Tebow.
Its almost socially acceptable to attack the ones above us. If we attack the ones below us we look like jerks.

Tebow holds himself to high standards, some don't like those standards and would like to bring him down to their level
Example...ESPN offering one million cash for a lady to pop out of the woodworks to say she had sex with him"

Now thats embarrassing! Truth be told the only thing worse then attacking someone, is blindly following an attacker.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:13 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
SacHawk2.0 wrote:
You're saying that if Blanda is a hall of famer then Tebow is for sure a good QB because their numbers are comparable? C'mon man.

Why do you think 8 passing attempts is relevant? Seriously. Golden Tate completed 100% of the passes he attempted last year? Why don't we just make him the backup QB?


Where did I say that? You just went off on some crazy rant about nothing I said
I said "did anyone say Blanda could not throw" The answer (like it should be for Tebow) is no.

You make stuff up. Not on my watch

His 75% is relevent due to that was the body of work that they allowed him. Do you want to start making up numbers for the last year? Or do you want to talk about what really went down. He did an amazing job when givin the chance.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:16 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
Spokane wrote:

I can tell you why they still hate Tebow.
Its almost socially acceptable to attack the ones above us. If we attack the ones below us we look like jerks.



That's not why we're disagreeing with you. It's not hate, or hating. And Tebow certainly isn't "above me" or "below me". We disagree with you because we don't think he's a good Quarterback. At all. That's not hating, that's called a difference of opinion. Ours is informed by watching the guy play and stink up the field and be terribly inaccurate. Your opinion is informed by him competing 6 of 8 passing attempts for 39 yards, 23 of which came on a fake punt while ignoring the fact that he sucked something awful while in Denver.

Quote:
His 75% is relevent due to that was the body of work that they allowed him. Do you want to start making up numbers for the last year? Or do you want to talk about what really went down. He did an amazing job when givin the chance.


No dude, 8 attempts is not a significant enough sample size. If you think it is then why aren't you clamoring for Golden Tate as backup QB?

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:28 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
Some said the same thing about Flynns example size. But you have to work with the information provided. And the information said he did good at passing!

At least you admit he is a QB, now you just have to work out the back tracking of how a QB can not throw.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:29 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
I never said he couldn't throw. My 5 year old niece can throw. But can she throw well on an NFL level? No.

Look at that, something my 5 year old niece has in common with Tim Tebow.

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:21 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
This is why we need a moon walking back tracking icon

SacHawk2.0 wrote:
I never said he couldn't throw. My 5 year old niece can throw. But can she throw well on an NFL level? No.

Look at that, something my 5 year old niece has in common with Tim Tebow.


However on page 2 of this thread you wrote

Are you serious? Sure, Tebow has the intangibles, but that doesn't change the fact that he can't pass. At all.

I don't know if you know this but PC also likes his QBs to be able to throw the ball and read defenses.

Can Tebow do that? Obviously not.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:18 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
Posts: 2824
Location: Seattle
I love how it always comes back to the insinuation that people don't like him because he's an evangelical.

Tebow can't pass at an NFL level. That's just how it is. Reality is going to hit that he can either find a role to fill on a team besides being the quarterback, or he can go play in arenas.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:54 am 
* El Primo *
* El Primo *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:52 pm
Posts: 5222
Location: Skagit County, WA
George Blanda did not get into the HOF because of his passing stats...AND YOU KNOW IT! :141847_bnono:

He went in the HOF primarily on his kicking prowess and longevity in the game. (He played for 26 years, had most PATs, most years scoring, etc.)

Spokane: You think you're the only old-timer around here? LOL!

You want to compare Blanda v. Tebow? How many extra points has Tebow kicked?

_________________
If you're walking on thin ice, you might as well dance.................................................Mom


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:08 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:55 am
Posts: 757
Blanda also played in the day when it was perfectly legal for defensive backs to tackle receivers before the ball was thrown.

_________________
Last edited by Russell Wilson on Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:20 pm, edited 29-3 times in total.
Last edited by NFC Champion Russell Wilson on Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:14 pm, edited 23-17 times in total.
Last edited by World Champion Russell Wilson on Sun Feb 2, 2014 7:14 pm, edited 43-8 times in total.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:50 am 
* NET Baller *
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:02 am
Posts: 17440
Location: Graham, WA
Spokane wrote:
SacHawk2.0 wrote:
Carmon1274 wrote:
Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


Tebow has a 49% career completion rate. What makes you think he CAN throw?


Just because you write something, that does mean it holds value.
The truth holds value, and someone who distorts the truth is not trusted.

What is his Job? Throwing the ball
What has he been paid millions by muti teams to do? Throw the ball
What did he do in high school/college? Throw the ball

Thats what the guy does, and he did it VERY WELL last year!

HE HIT HIS TARGETS WHEN ASKED (75% in 2012). Thats why I know he can throw.

When a guy does his job better then the others, and someone turns and says, "He sucks" Thats a hater.


this is gonna be so damn easy.

He threw 8 passes, completed 6, with an average for 4 yards a throw, no he cannot throw, and it shows because the Jets didn't want him to throw.

in college he ran as much as he threw, go check it out! http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pla ... ll_passing

Your ideas of him are wrong, dudes a bum.

_________________
Image
3elieve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:54 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
He is not as good as Wilson, but plenty good enough to be Wilson Jr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQXXPMxlj0I&noredirect=1


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:01 am 
NET Rookie
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:24 am
Posts: 143
Tebow is far from being a bum at the salary he will command if he is let go by the Jets and does not find a team. In fact I would say he is leaps and bounds better than any qb you can draft this year in the fourth round or later.

What this means is that IF we get a good deal on Flynn and Tebow is available at min he is roughly worth a fourth round pick to this team. Nothing to sneeze at.

Don't bother looking at his performance with the Jets, they did not want him to start in case he actually played well and made them look like idiots. He did not get a fair deal there. He performed much better than most backup qbs in the league in Denver and I would have no trouble seeing him finish up a game that rw needed to sit out. Any more than that and we are in trouble no matter who our backup is.

Sum up. Sweet deal for Flynn + tebow released and on his way out of the league+he is willing to take backup job at min = sounds good to me.

Should sound good to you too if you did not listen to what other people tell you to think too.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:34 am 
NET Starter
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:46 pm
Posts: 440
What really distinguishes RW, aside from his determination, physical skills and work ethic, is that he is a football genius. He processes information during plays like a high-speed computer.

I'd rather have Vince Young than Tebow, but they seem to share the same problem -- they are dumb as posts when it comes to football IQ. I would much rather have Michael Robinson as a backup QB. He may not have the hype, but he has the smarts.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:36 am 
* NET Baller *
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:02 am
Posts: 17440
Location: Graham, WA
seahawksTopGear wrote:
Tebow is far from being a bum at the salary he will command if he is let go by the Jets and does not find a team. In fact I would say he is leaps and bounds better than any qb you can draft this year in the fourth round or later.

What this means is that IF we get a good deal on Flynn and Tebow is available at min he is roughly worth a fourth round pick to this team. Nothing to sneeze at.

Don't bother looking at his performance with the Jets, they did not want him to start in case he actually played well and made them look like idiots. He did not get a fair deal there. He performed much better than most backup qbs in the league in Denver and I would have no trouble seeing him finish up a game that rw needed to sit out. Any more than that and we are in trouble no matter who our backup is.

Sum up. Sweet deal for Flynn + tebow released and on his way out of the league+he is willing to take backup job at min = sounds good to me.

Should sound good to you too if you did not listen to what other people tell you to think too.


A bum is a bum, no matter the price.

_________________
Image
3elieve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:33 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
Spokane wrote:
This is why we need a moon walking back tracking icon

SacHawk2.0 wrote:
I never said he couldn't throw. My 5 year old niece can throw. But can she throw well on an NFL level? No.

Look at that, something my 5 year old niece has in common with Tim Tebow.


However on page 2 of this thread you wrote

Are you serious? Sure, Tebow has the intangibles, but that doesn't change the fact that he can't pass. At all.

I don't know if you know this but PC also likes his QBs to be able to throw the ball and read defenses.

Can Tebow do that? Obviously not.


Oh Jesus Christ. If you think I literally meant he is physically incapable of hucking an oblong pig skin then you're truly hopeless.

There's a difference between being able to do something, and being able to do something well.

It's like singing, everyone can do it, not everyone is capable of winning a grammy.

It's also like you attempting to use logic and reason. You're trying, but you're clearly not very good at it.

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:50 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:54 am
Posts: 713
Location: Orlando, FL
I don't have time to read through 6 pages of posts, but wanted to comment (so I apologize if this has already been said.) Isn't the hate on Tim Tebow more about what he stands for rather than the criticism of his play? I think the criticism is blown out of proportion by those who despise him in the first place. I'm not accusing anyone here specifically. The OP was correct to report that the Hawks want another mobile QB and even though no player is going to measure up to RW in my opinion (total package of leadership skills, etc.), Tim Tebow would be a very wise pickup for the Seahawks. (I don't think Tim Tebow always has to be thought of as "Wildcat", either.) I think PC might be a coach and the Seahawks an organization that could allow the best to be brought out in Tim Tebow - and Tebow could come in knowing that he's not being asked or even given a shot to carry a team on his shoulders... as has been the case in much of his career.
I saw Josh Johnson's name mentioned somewhere as well as a possible mobile FA QB. Those type guys would be good "IF" Flynn is traded. I would rather have Flynn over any other option, but we're going to have to see if the Hawks can get a trade done to a team where he would have a better chance to get playing time. It would be a huge downgrade from RW to Tebow should he need to play, but Tebow has fire in his gut and off-the-charts leadership. He could manage a team in any absence of RW until 3 could return. I'd still like to see him utilized similarly to how the Dolphins utilized Jim Jenson years ago - and Jensen was the 3rd string QB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jensen_(wide_receiver)

I think there could be many positives about Tim Tebow to the Hawks. Only if he's clear that it's RW's team and simply comes in as a team guy. I think he is and his teammates have always said that about him. He was just disappointed when he didn't get the opportunity and Greg McElroy did. Would any other player in that position feel any differently? Tim Tebow is a winner. PC likes those kind of guys and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him as a Seahawk. I'm not holding my breath and rooting for that... but, would affirm it being a great addition should it happen.

_________________
World Champion
Image
Seattle Seahawks


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:59 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
Posts: 2824
Location: Seattle
No, the "hate" on Tebow is not about what he stands for.

Good God, how have so many people bought this narrative? Have people seen the wounded birds he calls passing attempts? He is not a quarterback, because he's not even an average NFL passer.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:00 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
TeamoftheCentury wrote:
I don't have time to read through 6 pages of posts, but wanted to comment (so I apologize if this has already been said.) Isn't the hate on Tim Tebow more about what he stands for rather than the criticism of his play? .


Maybe some places, but not here. As an agnostic let me tell you that I don't give 2 shits about his faith or how he wants to express it. If my team needed a quarterback and I thought he fit the bill I wouldn't care how publicly he expressed his faith.

My criticism of him is his sorry completion percentage, inability to quickly diagnose defenses, and propensity for turnovers.

The religious thing....jokes...I'll laugh at, but they don't actually matter.

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:15 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
TeamoftheCentury wrote:
I don't have time to read through 6 pages of posts.

The upside is you missed nothing!

There are a million other QBs in the NFL that suck more then Tebow, So why all the tough talk for this guy?

It goes back to the idea that we attack the ones above us, to bring them to our level. Is there anyone talking trash about Portis? No. Why? Because you would look like a jerk.

Tebow didn't kick your dog or make out with your girl, but still there is a lot of hate floating around.

For real name one other non seahawk QB you spent this much time focused on his negatives? Or even half? how about a 4th? Never happened.

The question is not "Is he a good QB", the question is why are you so pissed off at a dude you never met? Is the problem you?


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:22 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
Posts: 2824
Location: Seattle
The difference is Tim Tebow might be the worst passer of any player designated as a quarterback in the NFL. That's a huge negative worth constantly repeating.

Now, his football instincts are great, and I do think he has a role on an NFL team, I just don't like the idea of a guy who can't pass well as our #2 QB. There are guys who pass better than him I'd like less as our backup, I will say, but not a lot.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:24 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
pinksheets wrote:
He is not a quarterback, because he's not even an average NFL passer.


OK, so that would make 50% of the so called QBs in the NFL not real QBs. 32 teams X 3 QBs = about 100 QBs in the NFL

So out of the 100 current QBs, how many have you called "not a real QB"? The answer is 1 Tim Tebow.

Its hard to say "Its about his play" when you won't say the same about lesser players.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:25 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
Spokane wrote:
The upside is you missed nothing!

There are a million other QBs in the NFL that suck more then Tebow, So why all the tough talk for this guy?

It goes back to the idea that we attack the ones above us, to bring them to our level. Is there anyone talking trash about Portis? No. Why? Because you would look like a jerk.

Tebow didn't kick your dog or make out with your girl, but still there is a lot of hate floating around.

For real name one other non seahawk QB you spent this much time focused on his negatives? Or even half? how about a 4th? Never happened.

The question is not "Is he a good QB", the question is why are you so pissed off at a dude you never met? Is the problem you?


No, there aren't a million other QBs. 53 players times 32 teams = 1696 players total, at all positions.

No, it doesn't come back to "attacking those above us". Nobody here feels they are "beneath" Tebow.

Name one other QB we've spent this much time focused on his negatives? Clearly you weren't here for the Carson Palmer to Seattle Rumor days.

I'm not pissed off at Tebow and I don't think anyone else here is either. Most of us just don't think he's a good quarterback. What pisses people off is people like you who insist that we're just haters and don't have any validity to our criticisms, while your arguments are incredibly thin.

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:31 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
"the worst passer of any player designated as a quarterback in the NFL" Does not get a $33 million contract.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:32 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
Spokane wrote:
"the worst passer of any player designated as a quarterback in the NFL" Does not get a $33 million contract.


Why not? Have you seen Mark Sanchez and JaMarcus Russell? They got a lot more and they were almost as bad as Tebow.

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:46 am 
* NET Baller *
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:02 am
Posts: 17440
Location: Graham, WA
Spokane wrote:
pinksheets wrote:
He is not a quarterback, because he's not even an average NFL passer.


OK, so that would make 50% of the so called QBs in the NFL not real QBs. 32 teams X 3 QBs = about 100 QBs in the NFL

So out of the 100 current QBs, how many have you called "not a real QB"? The answer is 1 Tim Tebow.

Its hard to say "Its about his play" when you won't say the same about lesser players.


How are they lesser? You and I don't know that, stop that.

_________________
Image
3elieve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:47 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
Russell was in a forced rookie contract deal. And the Sanchez deal was what got that GM fired. Still the worst QB in the NFL does not get a 33M contract. So he is not the worst passer of any player designed as a QB.

So if he is not the worst passer and you are calling him the worst passer, you would need a reason to call him "the worst passer" And the reason is...Hate or strong dislike.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:49 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
Throwdown wrote:
Spokane wrote:
pinksheets wrote:
He is not a quarterback, because he's not even an average NFL passer.


OK, so that would make 50% of the so called QBs in the NFL not real QBs. 32 teams X 3 QBs = about 100 QBs in the NFL

So out of the 100 current QBs, how many have you called "not a real QB"? The answer is 1 Tim Tebow.

Its hard to say "Its about his play" when you won't say the same about lesser players.


How are they lesser? You and I don't know that, stop that.


For one he is a 2nd stringer (starter before), there are at least 32 3rd stringers plus P squad QBs, so I will stop nothing.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:50 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
Posts: 2824
Location: Seattle
Spokane wrote:
pinksheets wrote:
He is not a quarterback, because he's not even an average NFL passer.


OK, so that would make 50% of the so called QBs in the NFL not real QBs. 32 teams X 3 QBs = about 100 QBs in the NFL

So out of the 100 current QBs, how many have you called "not a real QB"? The answer is 1 Tim Tebow.

Its hard to say "Its about his play" when you won't say the same about lesser players.

Jesus Christ, slow down, buddy. I wasn't making a mathematical statement. I'm saying what would normally be considered average passing ability in the NFL is well above what Tebow is capable of. But if you want to be bizarrely literal about things, I'll just alter my statement to say once again that Tebow is the worst passer of any NFL QB, bar none.

But go ahead and keep twisting statements to make them about something more than football.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:53 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
Spokane wrote:
Russell was in a forced rookie contract deal. And the Sanchez deal was what got that GM fired. Still the worst QB in the NFL does not get a 33M contract. So he is not the worst passer of any player designed as a QB.

So if he is not the worst passer and you are calling him the worst passer, you would need a reason to call him "the worst passer" And the reason is...Hate or strong dislike.


By your logic you could take the worst passer and then give him 33 million and that would make him better?

Your reasoning skills are on par with Tim Tebows passing skills. They both suck.

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Last edited by SacHawk2.0 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:53 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
Posts: 2824
Location: Seattle
Spokane wrote:
Russell was in a forced rookie contract deal. And the Sanchez deal was what got that GM fired. Still the worst QB in the NFL does not get a 33M contract. So he is not the worst passer of any player designed as a QB.

So if he is not the worst passer and you are calling him the worst passer, you would need a reason to call him "the worst passer" And the reason is...Hate or strong dislike.

Yes, he is the worst passer of any NFL player designated as a quarterback, easily.

He got paid because he can make plays and he made some in some clutch moments, he's still an awful, awful passer. Not to mention that "$33 million contract" is really for like $10m + incentives.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:04 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
"By your logic you could take the worst passer and then give him 33 million and that would make him better?"
lol...OR I was saying a company is not going to shell out 33M for a loser. Not sure how you came up with that statement.

Dumb post of the year, you must feel like your back is against the wall to make up an idea like that!

----
Ok lets be real here for a minute, you said "Yes, he is the worst passer of any NFL player designated as a quarterback, easily"

My queston is what makes him the worst passer? You know he does not have the worst stats, he shows up and plays. So whatever reason you come up with that makes him the worst, you can find at least 20 QBs that suck more in that area?

So then it will turn out that he is not the worst, but some folks on here just simply dislike him.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:06 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
Posts: 2824
Location: Seattle
Or it'll turn out that he's just not very good and some folks here are just irrationally infatuated with him.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:12 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
Spokane, NFL teams shell out big bucks all the time for players that don't make it.

Ryan Leaf
Jamarcus Russell
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
And yes, Tebow

It even happens at other positions, see Aaron Curry.

Just because a team gives a player a big contract doesn't mean that player is good.

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:28 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:35 am
Posts: 700
BBHawks wrote:
Would somebody please tell me this is a running joke so I'll sleep better tonight?


This has to be a running joke, I have never heard so much blind reasoning for dislike in my life, DID HE KICK YOUR GUYS DOG?

Clown 1: He is the worst
Clown 2: You dang right he is
Clown 3: Anybody know why he is the worst?
Clown 2: He just is
Repeat


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:32 am 
* NET Baller *
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:02 am
Posts: 17440
Location: Graham, WA
The numbers don't lie, bro. He's horrific as a passer, in order to be a back up for this team you have to be able to throw, our use of the spread option isn't and probably won't ever be a staple of this offense, its just something we used to scare teams because Russell can throw. With Tebow? lol they're gonna laugh the offense off the field. I'd roll with Charlie Friggin' Frye before I gave Tebow a chance.

_________________
Image
3elieve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:34 am 
*Host of .NET Awards*
User avatar
Online

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:51 pm
Posts: 8925
Location: With a white girl
"he just is" isn't listed here as a reason we don't want him.

You are either not reading what we're writing or you're deliberately ignoring the facts. You're like a young earth creationist. Willfully ignorant.

_________________
Legal Notice: Only a very small percentage of the things I do and say can be taken seriously. If ever.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:36 am 
*NET FCC Liaison*
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:39 am
Posts: 22746
Location: Kirkland, WA
pinksheets wrote:
Yes, he is the worst passer of any NFL player designated as a quarterback, easily.

Tebow.

Trumped.

_________________
Sam Bradford is a game changer.

*He can change a win into a loss.
*He can change a loss into a win by getting injured.
*RedAlice is right.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:45 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:47 pm
Posts: 2824
Location: Seattle
I don't know what just happened, but I liked it.


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 192 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

Board index » SEAHAWKS.NET - THE VOICE OF THE 12TH MAN » [ NFL NATION ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ctown12, GFang, HawksSoc, Missing_Clink, Snohomie and 16 guests

 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Seahawks.NET is an independent fan site and not associated with the Seattle Seahawks or the NFL (National Football League).
All content within this Seahawks fan page is provided by, and for, Seattle Seahawks fans. Copyright © Seahawks.NET.