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 Post subject: Re: QB Problem
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:28 pm 
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6 of 8 last year. A whole 8 attempts.

How about 2011 when, while on the Broncos and had a good running game and defense to support him?

48%

For nearly the whole season.

48%

George Blanda HOF QB 47.7%
Again, many ways to get the job done.

Its all about how you look at the option. An open minded person would say, "Go for it, if we are pumped about a basketball player as a TE, a playoff winning QB should send us through the roof"

But a person who has an anti agenda or just a tool of espn would say "Yeah two NFL teams said yes to him as the answer to the QB question, but come on - he is a FB"


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Note that both teams who took a chance on him as QB quickly got rid of him or are about to.


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Sac, I wouldn't blindly trust what random scouting reports say if you don't know their work or their reputation. There are a lot of idiots out there.

Peter Lalich played for the same small school that Josh Portis did. He bombed out of two division I schools before that, for alcohol problems. There isn't much on youtube, but what little I've seen I don't get where the excitement comes from. His story, measurables, and available video remind me of BJ Coleman, if Coleman had a drinking problem.

He's not a ZR QB, btw.


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Note that both teams who took a chance on him as QB quickly got rid of him or are about to.


Neither one is particularly known for being imaginative, either. Seattle has taken players weird players like Tebow before, they just didn't play QB.


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Woudln't trade much of anything for Tim Tebow, but Mike Rob is right, he could be a good fullback with speed, he has the work ethic.

Benefits include: more publicity, and the "True Tim Report".

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Here's what I saw when I watched a Jets game: Sanchez would be flailing around, but then would start to get hot. He'd hit a couple of good passes and start to find a rhythm... and then they'd take him to the sideline and bring Tebow in. Tebow would run around a lot and throw an incomplete pass. Then, Sanchez would come in and be cold again.

That's the way the Jets handle a quarterback. Do we really want the Seahawks to handle Russell Wilson this way? I say ride the Russell Wilson train and hope he's healthy for the entire season.


Sounds like a fishy story! Really? Tebow only missed on two passes all year, and thats what you seen and judge him on?

How about being a playoff winning QB? Did you see that?
How about the many come from behind wins? Did you see that?
Nope, some people just see what they want, or repeat what they are told.

**What is going to be interesting to find out is if PC and JS are in on the anti Tebow agenda as well. As PC has stated he wants a Wilson JR as the number 2. Everyone and their dog knows Tebow fits the bill better then 99% of the other QBs. When the time comes the media will ask "hey, how about Tebow for that 2nd spot at the right price"

PC will say one of two things, COMPETE or NO. PC has stated he wants a Tebow type, now we will see if he buckles like a tool.


Did you see how few points the Tebow led Broncos scored? Did you see that those 4th quarters comebacks were necessitated by piss poor QB play that created the leagues most anemic passing offense? Did you see his league worst pass completion percentage.

Yes, Tebow is definitely the QB we need, because every team needs a QB that can't throw the ball. I can't imagine a situation so desperate that the solution would Tim Tebow would be the answer. Why the hell would we move from back up a QB who can't run to one that can't throw?


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When was the last time a playoff winning NFL QB turned into a NFL FB?

Its like you cats can't see the light! You are being told (and I mean GETTING TOLD) that a playoff winning QB is a FB?

Please tell me you can think for yourselves more then that.


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I am fine with a Tebow trade (assuming we can't do better, of course), mainly because you could release Tebow the second he reaches the VMAC and you wouldn't have to pay him a dime. Well, unless Tebow's "dead money" number with the Jets applies to us. If it did, then it would be $14 million in savings compared to $9.5 million for releasing Flynn. Anyway, it would give Seattle a clean escape from Flynn's contract, which would save us up to $15.5 million in cap space that will roll into future seasons.

Tebow isn't a good passer, but he is built for a team like ours that is physical, runs the ball, plays great defense, and is used to being surrounded by a tilt the field QB. Tebow may not be pretty to watch, but neither was T-jack and Pete got T-jack to win 5 of his last 8 games here, while playing hurt. And I know it's cliche, but Tebow really is a "winner." He's often a totally different QB in the 4th quarters of games. I compared Wilson to Tebow last May in terms of his background and intangibles. Both faced discrimination because of a trait. Pete wasn't scared by Wilson's height, maybe he won't be scared by Tebow's throwing problems. Maybe Pete can find ways to minimize Tebow's flaws, the same way Harbaugh did with Alex Smith.

Also, it's an extremely thin year in the draft for read option QBs. The few that are decent will probably be long gone by the time Seattle is willing to draft one.



Spokane, take note! This is how to present a compelling argument as a Tebow fan! :th2thumbs:


Tebow is NOWHERE in the same class as RW IMO!!

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Kearly, no matter how hard you try to convince me Tebow is what we need for our team, it ain't workin' pal. Tilt the field?.. :lol:

And Pete didn't get jack out of T-Jack, that was all Tavaris' heart and will, not the coach, and I was not a T-Jack supporter.

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Did you see how few points the Tebow led Broncos scored? No I did not. I can't stand denver, and would not waste my time watchingDid you see that those 4th quarters comebacks were necessitated by piss poor QB play that created the leagues most anemic passing offense?Yeeeaaahhh I am sure it is all on the play of one guy, there are 33 men who suit up for 3 different units so yeah the being behind was all on one guy---come on people Did you see his league worst pass completion percentage.From worst to best (75% this year) So.

Yes, Tebow is definitely the QB we need, because every team needs a QB that can't throw the ball. I can't imagine a situation so desperate that the solution would Tim Tebow would be the answer.Let me help you, Denver, New York and Jags Why the hell would we move from back up a QB who can't run to one that can't throw? Again, he did everything he was asked, and still hit 75% of his targets


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When was the last time a playoff winning NFL QB turned into a NFL FB?


I've seen bad quarterbacks turned into playoff winning FBs. Look at Michael Robinson!

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See the mods got sick of the hating by some of you...lol!

They could not take the Tebow hate on the main fourm. This level of hate needed to be shuffeled to the back room

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SacHawk2.0 wrote:
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When was the last time a playoff winning NFL QB turned into a NFL FB?


I've seen bad quarterbacks turned into playoff winning FBs. Look at Michael Robinson!


I have seen water, but that was not the question.


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He threw 8 times... For 39 yards. 23 of these came off a fake punt.

If you watched Denver then you'd know. He did do some things alright, I think the Steeler's playoff game showed he could at least take the top off of a poor pass defense (can't sell out on the run 100%). But anyways his mechanics have regressed if anything. In the game against us this year he practically took several seconds to wind up. To throw a swing route! Obviously it wasn't a good set up in New York, but you'd like to think he improved in his time, and I don't think he did.

And one guy can make a pretty big difference on a team if that guy is a QB and is terrible. I'd like a QB who is at least half accurate and doesn't come with a circus.

I mean it wouldn't be the worst thing for him to be a third QB, but not on this roster, it's too competitive to want to waste the space in my opinion.

And why in the world am I posting anything about Tim Tebow. I thought I was long past that.


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Dude, this isn't the George Blanda era where 48% can cut it. You want to keep saying 75% all you want but 8 passing attempts means nothing.

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Golden Tate had a 100% completion percentage, averaged 23 yards per attempt and had a QB rating of 158.3 in 2012.


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Golden Tate had a 100% completion percentage, averaged 23 yards per attempt and had a QB rating of 158.3 in 2012.


Golden Tate for QBOTF!!!

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Somebody must have dosed my coffee at work today or something because I could swear there is a Seahawks fan on this board trying to argue that Tim Tebow is almost as good as Russell Wilson. Would somebody please tell me this is a running joke so I'll sleep better tonight?


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Tebow is one of the worst passers the league has seen in the last 20 years, easily. And I don't even think he's that good of a runner! The playoff win argument doesn't work because, QBs don't win games, teams do. We might as well sign Seneca Wallace who is much better at passing, and is much more versatile. Can even catch the ball and return punts.

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Yes to Tebow as a Seahawk! He is what we need! Or do you know more then PC about the team? If so blab on why we don't need him.


Do you have a link where PC says he wants Tebow? Or do you have a special 'source'?


No where did I say "Pete said yes to Tebow" It is stated everywhere that Pete has said " I want a guy like Wilson"
No other QB is as close to Wilson as Tebow. You should know that and not nit pick.


Nit pick? How is Tebow closer to RW than any other QB? He can't throw the stinking ball!

Nor does Tebow have Wilson's brains or commitment....if he did, he would have changed that horrible throwing motion by now.

I'd rather see Seneca in a 'Hawk uni, before I'd see Tebow in one! :stirthepot:

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Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
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Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


You're kidding right? If someone disagrees with you they become a hater? LOL!

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Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


Tebow has a 49% career completion rate. What makes you think he CAN throw?

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Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


Did you watch the game against the Hawks this year? Tebow had difficulty completing a bubble screen pass with zero pressure around him. It was almost embarrassing to watch.

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Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


You're kidding right? If someone disagrees with you they become a hater? LOL!


Throw the glasses on! He did not say "if you disagree with me then you are a hater"
He said "If you still say he can't throw then you are a hater."

Is that true? Yes! How many people would say George Blanda could not throw? None. So why throw Tebow under the "can't throw" Bus while having better numbers? Hate!

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Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


Tebow has a 49% career completion rate. What makes you think he CAN throw?


Just because you write something, that does mean it holds value.
The truth holds value, and someone who distorts the truth is not trusted.

What is his Job? Throwing the ball
What has he been paid millions by muti teams to do? Throw the ball
What did he do in high school/college? Throw the ball

Thats what the guy does, and he did it VERY WELL last year!

HE HIT HIS TARGETS WHEN ASKED (75% in 2012). Thats why I know he can throw.

When a guy does his job better then the others, and someone turns and says, "He sucks" Thats a hater.


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Tebow ain't worth signing, and he ain't worth hating. Let him rot on the Jets and get on with life, he isn't the center of it.

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Is that true? Yes! How many people would say George Blanda could not throw? None. So why throw Tebow under the "can't throw" Bus while having better numbers? Hate!

Its not rocket science people, its all about an agenda.


Dude, you're making an apples and oranges comparison. For comparisons sake here are George Blanda's career stats.

1911 of 4007 (47%) for 26,920 yards and 236 TD's. Do you know how long it took him to do that?

26 years

Do you know how many int's he had? 277. That's 41 more INT's than TD's.

You're saying that if Blanda is a hall of famer then Tebow is for sure a good QB because their numbers are comparable? C'mon man.

Blanda was good for the era he played in. He would not make an NFL squad today. The game is so much different than when Blanda played, the offenses and defenses are both far more complex. Just the terminology can be mind blowing.

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Thats what the guy does, and he did it VERY WELL last year!

HE HIT HIS TARGETS WHEN ASKED (75% in 2012). Thats why I know he can throw.



Why do you think 8 passing attempts is relevant? Seriously. Golden Tate completed 100% of the passes he attempted last year? Why don't we just make him the backup QB?

Tebow belongs at home on the couch.

And the only person here with an "agenda" is you and your trolling ways.

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Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


I can tell you why they still hate Tebow.
Its almost socially acceptable to attack the ones above us. If we attack the ones below us we look like jerks.

Tebow holds himself to high standards, some don't like those standards and would like to bring him down to their level
Example...ESPN offering one million cash for a lady to pop out of the woodworks to say she had sex with him"

Now thats embarrassing! Truth be told the only thing worse then attacking someone, is blindly following an attacker.


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You're saying that if Blanda is a hall of famer then Tebow is for sure a good QB because their numbers are comparable? C'mon man.

Why do you think 8 passing attempts is relevant? Seriously. Golden Tate completed 100% of the passes he attempted last year? Why don't we just make him the backup QB?


Where did I say that? You just went off on some crazy rant about nothing I said
I said "did anyone say Blanda could not throw" The answer (like it should be for Tebow) is no.

You make stuff up. Not on my watch

His 75% is relevent due to that was the body of work that they allowed him. Do you want to start making up numbers for the last year? Or do you want to talk about what really went down. He did an amazing job when givin the chance.


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I can tell you why they still hate Tebow.
Its almost socially acceptable to attack the ones above us. If we attack the ones below us we look like jerks.



That's not why we're disagreeing with you. It's not hate, or hating. And Tebow certainly isn't "above me" or "below me". We disagree with you because we don't think he's a good Quarterback. At all. That's not hating, that's called a difference of opinion. Ours is informed by watching the guy play and stink up the field and be terribly inaccurate. Your opinion is informed by him competing 6 of 8 passing attempts for 39 yards, 23 of which came on a fake punt while ignoring the fact that he sucked something awful while in Denver.

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His 75% is relevent due to that was the body of work that they allowed him. Do you want to start making up numbers for the last year? Or do you want to talk about what really went down. He did an amazing job when givin the chance.


No dude, 8 attempts is not a significant enough sample size. If you think it is then why aren't you clamoring for Golden Tate as backup QB?

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Some said the same thing about Flynns example size. But you have to work with the information provided. And the information said he did good at passing!

At least you admit he is a QB, now you just have to work out the back tracking of how a QB can not throw.


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I never said he couldn't throw. My 5 year old niece can throw. But can she throw well on an NFL level? No.

Look at that, something my 5 year old niece has in common with Tim Tebow.

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I never said he couldn't throw. My 5 year old niece can throw. But can she throw well on an NFL level? No.

Look at that, something my 5 year old niece has in common with Tim Tebow.


However on page 2 of this thread you wrote

Are you serious? Sure, Tebow has the intangibles, but that doesn't change the fact that he can't pass. At all.

I don't know if you know this but PC also likes his QBs to be able to throw the ball and read defenses.

Can Tebow do that? Obviously not.


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I love how it always comes back to the insinuation that people don't like him because he's an evangelical.

Tebow can't pass at an NFL level. That's just how it is. Reality is going to hit that he can either find a role to fill on a team besides being the quarterback, or he can go play in arenas.


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George Blanda did not get into the HOF because of his passing stats...AND YOU KNOW IT! :141847_bnono:

He went in the HOF primarily on his kicking prowess and longevity in the game. (He played for 26 years, had most PATs, most years scoring, etc.)

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You want to compare Blanda v. Tebow? How many extra points has Tebow kicked?

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Blanda also played in the day when it was perfectly legal for defensive backs to tackle receivers before the ball was thrown.

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Don't get it why people still hate Tim Tebow.

He can throw, (If you still say he can't throw, you're a hater)
He wins games.
Motivates people
Does show leadership
Can run the pistol formation.


Tebow has a 49% career completion rate. What makes you think he CAN throw?


Just because you write something, that does mean it holds value.
The truth holds value, and someone who distorts the truth is not trusted.

What is his Job? Throwing the ball
What has he been paid millions by muti teams to do? Throw the ball
What did he do in high school/college? Throw the ball

Thats what the guy does, and he did it VERY WELL last year!

HE HIT HIS TARGETS WHEN ASKED (75% in 2012). Thats why I know he can throw.

When a guy does his job better then the others, and someone turns and says, "He sucks" Thats a hater.


this is gonna be so damn easy.

He threw 8 passes, completed 6, with an average for 4 yards a throw, no he cannot throw, and it shows because the Jets didn't want him to throw.

in college he ran as much as he threw, go check it out! http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pla ... ll_passing

Your ideas of him are wrong, dudes a bum.

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He is not as good as Wilson, but plenty good enough to be Wilson Jr.
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Tebow is far from being a bum at the salary he will command if he is let go by the Jets and does not find a team. In fact I would say he is leaps and bounds better than any qb you can draft this year in the fourth round or later.

What this means is that IF we get a good deal on Flynn and Tebow is available at min he is roughly worth a fourth round pick to this team. Nothing to sneeze at.

Don't bother looking at his performance with the Jets, they did not want him to start in case he actually played well and made them look like idiots. He did not get a fair deal there. He performed much better than most backup qbs in the league in Denver and I would have no trouble seeing him finish up a game that rw needed to sit out. Any more than that and we are in trouble no matter who our backup is.

Sum up. Sweet deal for Flynn + tebow released and on his way out of the league+he is willing to take backup job at min = sounds good to me.

Should sound good to you too if you did not listen to what other people tell you to think too.


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What really distinguishes RW, aside from his determination, physical skills and work ethic, is that he is a football genius. He processes information during plays like a high-speed computer.

I'd rather have Vince Young than Tebow, but they seem to share the same problem -- they are dumb as posts when it comes to football IQ. I would much rather have Michael Robinson as a backup QB. He may not have the hype, but he has the smarts.


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Tebow is far from being a bum at the salary he will command if he is let go by the Jets and does not find a team. In fact I would say he is leaps and bounds better than any qb you can draft this year in the fourth round or later.

What this means is that IF we get a good deal on Flynn and Tebow is available at min he is roughly worth a fourth round pick to this team. Nothing to sneeze at.

Don't bother looking at his performance with the Jets, they did not want him to start in case he actually played well and made them look like idiots. He did not get a fair deal there. He performed much better than most backup qbs in the league in Denver and I would have no trouble seeing him finish up a game that rw needed to sit out. Any more than that and we are in trouble no matter who our backup is.

Sum up. Sweet deal for Flynn + tebow released and on his way out of the league+he is willing to take backup job at min = sounds good to me.

Should sound good to you too if you did not listen to what other people tell you to think too.


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I never said he couldn't throw. My 5 year old niece can throw. But can she throw well on an NFL level? No.

Look at that, something my 5 year old niece has in common with Tim Tebow.


However on page 2 of this thread you wrote

Are you serious? Sure, Tebow has the intangibles, but that doesn't change the fact that he can't pass. At all.

I don't know if you know this but PC also likes his QBs to be able to throw the ball and read defenses.

Can Tebow do that? Obviously not.


Oh Jesus Christ. If you think I literally meant he is physically incapable of hucking an oblong pig skin then you're truly hopeless.

There's a difference between being able to do something, and being able to do something well.

It's like singing, everyone can do it, not everyone is capable of winning a grammy.

It's also like you attempting to use logic and reason. You're trying, but you're clearly not very good at it.

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I don't have time to read through 6 pages of posts, but wanted to comment (so I apologize if this has already been said.) Isn't the hate on Tim Tebow more about what he stands for rather than the criticism of his play? I think the criticism is blown out of proportion by those who despise him in the first place. I'm not accusing anyone here specifically. The OP was correct to report that the Hawks want another mobile QB and even though no player is going to measure up to RW in my opinion (total package of leadership skills, etc.), Tim Tebow would be a very wise pickup for the Seahawks. (I don't think Tim Tebow always has to be thought of as "Wildcat", either.) I think PC might be a coach and the Seahawks an organization that could allow the best to be brought out in Tim Tebow - and Tebow could come in knowing that he's not being asked or even given a shot to carry a team on his shoulders... as has been the case in much of his career.
I saw Josh Johnson's name mentioned somewhere as well as a possible mobile FA QB. Those type guys would be good "IF" Flynn is traded. I would rather have Flynn over any other option, but we're going to have to see if the Hawks can get a trade done to a team where he would have a better chance to get playing time. It would be a huge downgrade from RW to Tebow should he need to play, but Tebow has fire in his gut and off-the-charts leadership. He could manage a team in any absence of RW until 3 could return. I'd still like to see him utilized similarly to how the Dolphins utilized Jim Jenson years ago - and Jensen was the 3rd string QB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jensen_(wide_receiver)

I think there could be many positives about Tim Tebow to the Hawks. Only if he's clear that it's RW's team and simply comes in as a team guy. I think he is and his teammates have always said that about him. He was just disappointed when he didn't get the opportunity and Greg McElroy did. Would any other player in that position feel any differently? Tim Tebow is a winner. PC likes those kind of guys and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him as a Seahawk. I'm not holding my breath and rooting for that... but, would affirm it being a great addition should it happen.

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No, the "hate" on Tebow is not about what he stands for.

Good God, how have so many people bought this narrative? Have people seen the wounded birds he calls passing attempts? He is not a quarterback, because he's not even an average NFL passer.


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I don't have time to read through 6 pages of posts, but wanted to comment (so I apologize if this has already been said.) Isn't the hate on Tim Tebow more about what he stands for rather than the criticism of his play? .


Maybe some places, but not here. As an agnostic let me tell you that I don't give 2 shits about his faith or how he wants to express it. If my team needed a quarterback and I thought he fit the bill I wouldn't care how publicly he expressed his faith.

My criticism of him is his sorry completion percentage, inability to quickly diagnose defenses, and propensity for turnovers.

The religious thing....jokes...I'll laugh at, but they don't actually matter.

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