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    "We usually try not to move Pro Bowl players to different positions," - John Schneider


    John Schneider admitted last year if Mark Barron was availible they would have selected him and tried to move Kam to Will..... Kam was a Pro Bowler.


    No he said things could've gotten interesting.


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  • m0ng0 wrote:and what are we going to pay him?


    6 million
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  • bestfightstory wrote:Flynn and Browner or Lane (Jets choice) and our 2nd for Revis and the Jets 3rd.

    IF and I repeat.... IF we are interested. That is what we are offering. You know it as well as I do.


    I highly doubt Flynn is apart of the deal. The Jets are over the cap. and already have 12+ Million invested in the position. And 7 million, and that team has 19 million in a position that doesn't have a clear starter. Their GM is a cap specialist no way he includes Flynn. It doesn't make $$$ sense.
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  • bestfightstory wrote:Flynn and Browner or Lane (Jets choice) and our 2nd for Revis and the Jets 3rd.

    IF and I repeat.... IF we are interested. That is what we are offering. You know it as well as I do.


    I don't know it.....Could be something else....might be that.....but might not.
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  • That being said, I'm down for Revis... Man... Sherm AND Revis? good luck NFL QB's.
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  • sainthawk29 wrote:
    bestfightstory wrote:Flynn and Browner or Lane (Jets choice) and our 2nd for Revis and the Jets 3rd.

    IF and I repeat.... IF we are interested. That is what we are offering. You know it as well as I do.


    I highly doubt Flynn is apart of the deal. The Jets are over the cap. and already have 12+ Million invested in the position. And 7 million, and that team has 19 million in a position that doesn't have a clear starter. Their GM is a cap specialist no way he includes Flynn. It doesn't make $$$ sense.


    You are correct, however, if they bring in Matt Flynn's 5.25 million dollar cap hit they would also be deducting Revis's $6, Sanchez's $14, and Tebow's $6 million.

    That's a net decrease of almost $21 milliIon. I understand this number may be subject to cap penalty, but only if they don't find a trade partner for Tebow as I believe Sanchez can be cut at any time without penalty after he restructured last year (might be wrong on this).
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  • joeshaney wrote:
    bestfightstory wrote:Flynn and Browner or Lane (Jets choice) and our 2nd for Revis and the Jets 3rd.

    IF and I repeat.... IF we are interested. That is what we are offering. You know it as well as I do.


    I don't know it.....Could be something else....might be that.....but might not.



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  • Can Revis play Safety?

    This comment will prove to be somewhat controversial, but Kam has let me down a little bit of late. :(
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  • Revis opposite of Sherman, move Browner to cover underneath slot/TE routes.

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  • The league won't let this happen. Revis and Sherman on one team, to form the almighty "Shermis Archipelago"? It'd be cheating. Too unfair to opposing teams.
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  • http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/04/2 ... -list.html

    I think i've made it pretty clear in MANY threads what i feel about moving players to new positions when they play at a pro-bowl or all-pro level at their current position.

    I think many who think otherwise have a have a cake and eat it too mentality. You like Browner and Kam, but don't want to lose them if a player that is arguably better comes along and insist that the best solution is to have them switch positions. This isn't Madden. They are not going to have the same physical attributes at the new position. New position, new skill set. You have every right to suggest it, but i have every right to counter it.

    This is the salary cap era. If you want to be good long term, you are going to need to mix and match what your team can excel at.

    As an example We choose to have big physical corners, which means we are at risk when we play a burner WR. Whenever we do, someone will suggest moving ET to CB. No, you don't. You pick and choose your poison, and do your best to limit your vulnerabilities. We have an All-Pro safety in ET. That means he's the best, at safety.

    A lot of players contracts are coming due, and many are due a big payday. We can't keep everyone we like.
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  • Basis4day wrote:http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/04/25/2119929/safety-isnt-first-on-hawks-list.html

    I think i've made it pretty clear in MANY threads what i feel about moving players to new positions when they play at a pro-bowl or all-pro level at their current position.

    I think many who think otherwise have a have a cake and eat it too mentality. You like Browner and Kam, but don't want to lose them if a player that is arguably better comes along and insist that the best solution is to have them switch positions. This isn't Madden. They are not going to have the same physical attributes at the new position. New position, new skill set. You have every right to suggest it, but i have every right to counter it.

    This is the salary cap era. If you want to be good long term, you are going to need to mix and match what your team can excel at.

    As an example We choose to have big physical corners, which means we are at risk when we play a burner WR. Whenever we do, someone will suggest moving ET to CB. No, you don't. You pick and choose your poison, and do your best to limit your vulnerabilities. We have an All-Pro safety in ET. That means he's the best, at safety.

    A lot of players contracts are coming due, and many are due a big payday. We can't keep everyone we like.

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  • Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.
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  • As much as I'd love Revis on the Hawks...if we're investing stackloads of cash and high draft picks into someone elses player could we please hassle Detroit into giving us Ndamukong Suh?
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  • Best Seahawks move of the offseason? Move John Idzik to Jets have him send us Revis :)
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  • SuperHawks wrote:Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.


    :lol:

    The Jets are trying to clear cap room, not add a big contract for a big contract.

    If this happens we're giving up picks.. maybe Lane since he's cheap
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  • SuperHawks wrote:Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.


    Perhaps to win a superbowl.....
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  • We need an elite corner less than any other team in the league. This isn't happening, people; get real.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:
    SuperHawks wrote:Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.


    :lol:

    The Jets are trying to clear cap room, not add a big contract for a big contract.

    If this happens we're giving up picks.. maybe Lane since he's cheap


    You are correct, however, if they bring in Matt Flynn's 5.25 million dollar cap hit they would also be deducting Revis's $6, Sanchez's $14, and Tebow's $6 million.

    That's a net decrease of almost $21 milliIon. I understand this number may be subject to cap penalty, but only if they don't find a trade partner for Tebow as I believe Sanchez can be cut at any time without penalty after he restructured last year (might be wrong on this).
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  • Hawkspur wrote:As much as I'd love Revis on the Hawks...if we're investing stackloads of cash and high draft picks into someone elses player could we please hassle Detroit into giving us Ndamukong Suh?


    He's not available.
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  • joeshaney wrote:
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    SuperHawks wrote:Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.


    :lol:

    The Jets are trying to clear cap room, not add a big contract for a big contract.

    If this happens we're giving up picks.. maybe Lane since he's cheap


    You are correct, however, if they bring in Matt Flynn's 5.25 million dollar cap hit they would also be deducting Revis's $6, Sanchez's $14, and Tebow's $6 million.

    That's a net decrease of almost $21 milliIon. I understand this number may be subject to cap penalty, but only if they don't find a trade partner for Tebow as I believe Sanchez can be cut at any time without penalty after he restructured last year (might be wrong on this).


    Cutting Sanchez does nothing. They're stuck with his salary no matter what. They can cut Bart Scott + Calvin Pace and free up $17M .. but still.. you've subtracted 3 key guys from a defense that isn't getting any better. They wouldn't take on Flynn at that salary.

    Idzik is going to want to build the Jets up similar to how PC/JS have built this team up - via the draft. They will want picks for Revis if he's moved.. guaranteed.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:We need an elite corner less than any other team in the league. This isn't happening, people; get real.

    We are sharing a brain today. This is never going to happen.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:

    Idzik is going to want to build the Jets up similar to how PC/JS have built this team up - via the draft. They will want picks for Revis if he's moved.. guaranteed.


    And who is a team in our division with LOTS of picks? :shock:
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  • joeshaney wrote:You are correct, however, if they bring in Matt Flynn's 5.25 million dollar cap hit they would also be deducting Revis's $6, Sanchez's $14, and Tebow's $6 million.

    That's a net decrease of almost $21 milliIon. I understand this number may be subject to cap penalty, but only if they don't find a trade partner for Tebow as I believe Sanchez can be cut at any time without penalty after he restructured last year (might be wrong on this).


    Spotract lists Revis at $783K signing bonus - should hit Jets cap not ours

    Then it shows base salary of $4.5 million and misc bonus of $6.2 so potential cap hit removed is almost $11 million. So that is a $6 millino saving if they get Flynn

    Personally I think someone picks up Tebow of waiver or with a 7th rounder. I would be interested in a trade of Jets Tebow and 7th rounder for a 7th rounder lol - not sure if that is allowed. All to remove the cap hit

    Now Tebow is only $4 million cap hit if he stays on roster with $2.5 for 2013 - not sure what part of that is guaranteed

    Regardless of their salary situation and how much in qb spot. They are not starting Sanchez next year, they are not starting Tebow next year. They need a qb.........
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  • joeshaney wrote:
    Hawkspur wrote:As much as I'd love Revis on the Hawks...if we're investing stackloads of cash and high draft picks into someone elses player could we please hassle Detroit into giving us Ndamukong Suh?


    He's not available.


    Of course Detroit that has cap issue wouldn't want to move a person underperforming his contract who is stuck in controversy every week........ :sarcasm_off:
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:We need an elite corner less than any other team in the league. This isn't happening, people; get real.

    Yeah, and after all, Revis to the 9rs, Rams, or Cards would kinda help even the playing field in the NFC WEST.
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  • 2 part post here:

    1) I am not going to say this is impossible, but it is very, very unrealistic. Salary and compensation (ie the 2 greatest factors) do not play in our favor. Yes, we have nice cap room, but we are also looking at some huge deals in the near future for our young corps (ET, RW, Sherm, etc). Likewise, you know that one (1) team will offer up something ridiculous, and that team most definitely will not be the Seahawks (see: history of PC/JS). We value our picks and losing a bunch of them is not the MO of this staff, and certainly not for a position of strength on this team (whether that is sheer talent or scheme manipulation).

    2) Even if Revis is a luxury (to an extent) you never, ever turn your back on making your team better. Think of it this way...would you trade James Carpenter (and I really like Carpenter) for Darrelle Revis right now? The resounding answer should be "well no sh!t Sherlock." In essence (granted hindsight), this is a possible scenario trading Revis for a 1st rounder. Now, you could obviously "miss" the chance of drafting a great player, at the same time. The point is, you know what you are getting with Revis, even if he is coming off of an injury. ACL, like Tommy John (which I've had) is so advanced nowadays, that it takes an (anti) miracle to not come back from it. Is it a luxury? Sure it is. But, you are also talking about a player who drastically changes what you can do on defense.

    All I am trying to illustrate, is that even though this is a highly improbable scenario, it does in fact make sense from a strictly "make your team better" point of view. I think Browner is a terrific CB, but he's not Revis. And like I said, further enhancing a strength, is never a bad thing, as long as it doesn't completely jeopardize and weaken a weakness.
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  • scutterhawk wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:We need an elite corner less than any other team in the league. This isn't happening, people; get real.

    Yeah, and after all, Revis to the 9rs, Rams, or Cards would kinda help even the playing field in the NFC WEST.

    Now, the Seahawks getting involved to drive the price up for our rivals, that I can see.
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  • mikeak wrote:
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    Hawkspur wrote:As much as I'd love Revis on the Hawks...if we're investing stackloads of cash and high draft picks into someone elses player could we please hassle Detroit into giving us Ndamukong Suh?


    He's not available.


    Of course Detroit that has cap issue wouldn't want to move a person underperforming his contract who is stuck in controversy every week........ :sarcasm_off:


    they dont.... at all
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  • Mtjhoyas wrote:2 part post here:

    1) I am not going to say this is impossible, but it is very, very unrealistic. Salary and compensation (ie the 2 greatest factors) do not play in our favor. Yes, we have nice cap room, but we are also looking at some huge deals in the near future for our young corps (ET, RW, Sherm, etc). Likewise, you know that one (1) team will offer up something ridiculous, and that team most definitely will not be the Seahawks (see: history of PC/JS). We value our picks and losing a bunch of them is not the MO of this staff, and certainly not for a position of strength on this team (whether that is sheer talent or scheme manipulation).

    2) Even if Revis is a luxury (to an extent) you never, ever turn your back on making your team better. Think of it this way...would you trade James Carpenter (and I really like Carpenter) for Darrelle Revis right now? The resounding answer should be "well no sh!t Sherlock." In essence (granted hindsight), this is a possible scenario trading Revis for a 1st rounder. Now, you could obviously "miss" the chance of drafting a great player, at the same time. The point is, you know what you are getting with Revis, even if he is coming off of an injury. ACL, like Tommy John (which I've had) is so advanced nowadays, that it takes an (anti) miracle to not come back from it. Is it a luxury? Sure it is. But, you are also talking about a player who drastically changes what you can do on defense.

    All I am trying to illustrate, is that even though this is a highly improbable scenario, it does in fact make sense from a strictly "make your team better" point of view. I think Browner is a terrific CB, but he's not Revis. And like I said, further enhancing a strength, is never a bad thing, as long as it doesn't completely jeopardize and weaken a weakness.


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  • joeshaney wrote:
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    SuperHawks wrote:Unless the Jets are willing to swap him for Flynn and a mid rounder I don't see it. We've got our own players who are gonna get paid soon enough so why bother giving up anything significant for a one year rental.


    :lol:

    The Jets are trying to clear cap room, not add a big contract for a big contract.

    If this happens we're giving up picks.. maybe Lane since he's cheap


    You are correct, however, if they bring in Matt Flynn's 5.25 million dollar cap hit they would also be deducting Revis's $6, Sanchez's $14, and Tebow's $6 million.

    That's a net decrease of almost $21 milliIon. I understand this number may be subject to cap penalty, but only if they don't find a trade partner for Tebow as I believe Sanchez can be cut at any time without penalty after he restructured last year (might be wrong on this).


    They can't get rid of sanchez contract. The guarenteed money is cost prohibitive they would have to take a cap hit of 17.1 million (3 million more that keeping him) Sanchez will be on the Jets roster next year
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  • Well this is what some Jets fans want for Revis: this is totally realistic :17:


    Packers- Clay Matthews, Morgan Burnett and 1st Round picks in 2013/2014

    Broncos- Von Miller, Eric Decker, 2 1st round picks 2013/2014

    Seahawks- Richard Sherman, Bruce Irvin, 2 1st Round Picks 2013/2014

    49ers- Aldon Smith and a 1st Round Pick

    Patriots- every pick for the rest of the existence

    Bills- hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha maybe Dareus and 3 1st Round Picks

    all showing interest, those are the deals I would accept from them
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  • If we got him for cheap, I'd be all for it.

    But I don't see the point in investing a ton into having 2 shutdown corners.

    Are we really that concerned about opposing teams' #2 receivers? I think Browner does just fine for the most part when it comes to stopping that kind of talent. I certainly won't scoff at a Sherman-Revis tandem but I do think that it's a huge luxury that quickly becomes not worth the pricetag.
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  • Here's how these things work with nebulous "anonymous source" type rumors.

    Step #1: Look at which teams have enough cap room to afford player
    Step #2: Is there prior history or ties between two teams
    Step #3: Float rumor in 200 different directions and see if anything sticks to the wall
    Step #4: Cut a hole in the box.
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  • Unless Revis puts on 130 pounds and becomes a penetrating 3-tech, he's not what we need (or can afford) on the D.
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  • "Seahawks- Richard Sherman, Bruce Irvin, 2 1st Round Picks 2013/2014"

    LMAO :chug: :thcocktail:
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  • I am a billion percent CERTAIN that the Hawks are HIGHLY interested in Revis. PC and JS are highly interested in everyone, even personal trainers like Chukwurah...

    It's nice to have a restless and diligent FO, but I doubt we'd ever come close to pulling the trigger on a deal.
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  • Revis is one of the premiere defensive players in the league. Of course the Seahawks are interested. Only stupid teams wouldn't be interested.

    Doesn't mean it will happen... but if it's the right deal for this team they'll go for it. And so they should too. You can never have enough good corners, let alone elite, lockdown corners like Revis who take away an entire side of the field consistently. You cannot throw at this guy.
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  • Question? Has any team ever had the 2 best lockdown corners in the NFL. Not saying it is going to happen, because frankly, I see the stategy behind it, but don't believe it will be a reality.

    I have a hard time imaging 2/3rd of a football field a complete "no fly zone"
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  • pinksheets wrote:If we got him for cheap, I'd be all for it.

    But I don't see the point in investing a ton into having 2 shutdown corners.

    Are we really that concerned about opposing teams' #2 receivers? I think Browner does just fine for the most part when it comes to stopping that kind of talent. I certainly won't scoff at a Sherman-Revis tandem but I do think that it's a huge luxury that quickly becomes not worth the pricetag.


    i second this post.. Browner VS. Julio Jones = shut down.. look what Jones did to SF...

    do we really need a spendy CB who may or may not be 100% again?
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  • For those worried acquiring Revis would jeopardize locking up our younger talent - don't be.. if we acquired him he'd be a 2 year rental.. then he'd hit the open market after 2014 and his salary would come off the books.

    It's not until 2014 that we will have to start locking guys up. Basically, we can do this trade if we want.. and I'm sorry, if the asking price is reasonable, you pull the damn trigger and don't think twice. Having the two best corners in football would be a MAJOR luxury. This isn't a running league anymore..
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  • Invest the money in pass rushers in free agency, especially a pocket collapser.

    That frees the draft up for offensive skill players and depth!
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  • With Sherman and Browner both being bigger guys, the Seahawks could use a corner to defend the speedy types.

    Revis is damn good. I hope it happens.
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  • FlyingGreg wrote:Invest the money in pass rushers in free agency, especially a pocket collapser.

    That frees the draft up for offensive skill players and depth!


    What pass rushers are really out there and available though?

    Darrelle Revis is so good.. he and Sherman would make our pass rush look a LOT better.
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  • Basis4day wrote:"We usually try not to move Pro Bowl players to different positions," - John Schneider


    Usually being the operative word.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:
    FlyingGreg wrote:Invest the money in pass rushers in free agency, especially a pocket collapser.

    That frees the draft up for offensive skill players and depth!


    What pass rushers are really out there and available though?

    Darrelle Revis is so good.. he and Sherman would make our pass rush look a LOT better.


    Randy Starks and Henry Melton, for starters.

    I'd love to have Revis too, but it's a luxury we can't afford. We don't want to take on that kind of money when we have a huge list of our young core stars coming due for huge raises in the next 2-3 years, not to mention the windfall Wilson will get in 2015.

    Our DB's already play exceptional. There's not much more they can do to help the pass rush, but that's a "chicken or the egg" argument anyways.
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  • sainthawk29 wrote:Question? Has any team ever had the 2 best lockdown corners in the NFL. Not saying it is going to happen, because frankly, I see the stategy behind it, but don't believe it will be a reality.

    I have a hard time imaging 2/3rd of a football field a complete "no fly zone"



    The best I can think of is Lester Hayes and Micheal Haynes of the Raiders.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:. This isn't a running league anymore..


    The two Superbowl teams beg to differ.............and the asking price would be HUGE for Revis. At least a 1st rounder, if not 1st and 2nd.

    No thanks, not an area of need. If any team is looking to trade their all pro DT or DE, get back to me.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Hasselbeck wrote:. This isn't a running league anymore..


    The two Superbowl teams beg to differ.............and the asking price would be HUGE for Revis. At least a 1st rounder, if not 1st and 2nd.

    No thanks, not an area of need. If any team is looking to trade their all pro DT or DE, get back to me.


    I don't consider Baltimore a running team. I consider them a running team that has a play where Flacco throws it as far as he can and Bouldin trys to catch it.
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