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 Post subject: Re: Rumor: Hawks 'highly interested' in acquiring Darrelle Revis
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I"m not sure on this Revis,
But I do know, you have Revis and Sherman

You have something that is unheard of in the NFL, No one had ever had these two type of shutdown players in the same backfield and with ET back for safty YOU do not have a threat of Outside receivers at all.
YOu have just eliminated the passing in a passing league.


Even the best CB's get burned. It happens. The league is also trending towards pass catching TE's. It wasn't your traditional #1 Wide receiver threat that burned us in the passing game. It was slot receivers and TEs.

As much as a Madden like fantasy as this is, it's just not going to happen.


If we do get Revis, Don't you think we will have a new answer for pass catching TE's. His name is Brandon Browner.


I think revis could slide inside with browner coming in off the bench to cover outside.


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 Post subject: Re: Rumor: Hawks 'highly interested' in acquiring Darrelle Revis
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If we bring in Revis (More likely then people think, I'd say about a 20% chance) There is something to be said about...

1. Kam Chancellor's positioning (WLB or Nickle Coverage LB to cover Slower TE's and RB's)

2. Brandon Browner? ( He could play Safety in man coverage in our cover 1 situations with Earl back there, he could also play #2 CB outside in nickle situations with Revis inside as he has the speed to run with anyone and can cover anyone big or small, <--- Revis that is...)

3. Leroy and Tru (Probably can kiss Leroy and Tru goodbye, as they are are already likely to leave as it is).

4. Sherman on regular downs ( Does he move to RCB because he is a great fit at LCB already, not good to change an all pro around 2 much, but I believe the affects would be minuscule.

5. Kam Chancellors Role? (If somehow Brandon Browner is moved to SS and he moves to LB or Nickle LB and Browner becomes a great SS then what happens to Kam? Of course if he is a force at LB then he can play there but if it doesn't work out to well what does that make Kam???)


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 Post subject: Re: Rumor: Hawks 'highly interested' in acquiring Darrelle Revis
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If we bring in Revis (More likely then people think, I'd say about a 20% chance) There is something to be said about...

1. Kam Chancellor's positioning (WLB or Nickle Coverage LB to cover Slower TE's and RB's)

2. Brandon Browner? ( He could play Safety in man coverage in our cover 1 situations with Earl back there, he could also play #2 CB outside in nickle situations with Revis inside as he has the speed to run with anyone and can cover anyone big or small, <--- Revis that is...)

3. Leroy and Tru (Probably can kiss Leroy and Tru goodbye, as they are are already likely to leave as it is).

4. Sherman on regular downs ( Does he move to RCB because he is a great fit at LCB already, not good to change an all pro around 2 much, but I believe the affects would be minuscule.

5. Kam Chancellors Role? (If somehow Brandon Browner is moved to SS and he moves to LB or Nickle LB and Browner becomes a great SS then what happens to Kam? Of course if he is a force at LB then he can play there but if it doesn't work out to well what does that make Kam???)


It's just silly to speculate, but.....
I don't think anyone changes position at all.
Your points number 2 and 3 would be accurate, we still replace Leroy with a draft pick and as Revis has been known to shadow specific receivers Sherman could remain where he is.


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 Post subject: Re: Rumor: Hawks 'highly interested' in acquiring Darrelle Revis
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If we bring in Revis (More likely then people think, I'd say about a 20% chance)


I think your estimate is about 21% too high.

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If we bring in Revis (More likely then people think, I'd say about a 20% chance)


I think your estimate is about 21% too high.


Since 5 teams were cited in the article as interested (NE, SF, DEN, BUF, SEA) he is assuming that we have a 1 in 5 chance.

Sorry. Not going to happen. CB is not our area of need, at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Rumor: Hawks 'highly interested' in acquiring Darrelle Revis
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Why are we even "interested"?

Here's why:

1. Pete Carroll thinking something needs to be changed on our Defense

2. He isn't into any of the DB'S in this draft

3. He has an idea! (When Pete has his idea's he is usually prepared to pull the trigger)

4. (Maybe) He thinks Revis can be our version of Charles Woodson and a more dominant version at that. (Nickleback, Cornerback, Saftey)


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 Post subject: Re: Rumor: Hawks 'highly interested' in acquiring Darrelle Revis
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Maybe you should put Madden away, he has made changes on defesne new line coach new coordinator. Our problem for the 1000000000000000000000000099th time is not our damn secondary.

How do you know he doesn't like any DB's in the draft? is there an inside source who knows someone that is whispering sweet nothings in your ear?

Woodson is a guy that was brought in to lead the secondary there. We have leaders.

Lastly until you can run and cover again you ain't dominating anything. Also you better prove it before anyone gives you 6 million a year, thats 5.5 million more then the BEST CB in the league is making.

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Maybe you should put Madden away, he has made changes on defesne new line coach new coordinator. Our problem for the 1000000000000000000000000099th time is not our damn secondary.

How do you know he doesn't like any DB's in the draft? is there an inside source who knows someone that is whispering sweet nothings in your ear?

Woodson is a guy that was brought in to lead the secondary there. We have leaders.

Lastly until you can run and cover again you ain't dominating anything. Also you better prove it before anyone gives you 6 million a year, thats 5.5 million more then the BEST CB in the league is making.


Answer this question... Why are we wasting our time if there is no trick up Pete Carroll and John Schneider's sleeves? Only reason we would do this is 2 bluff at a bidding war, which is dumb...

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 Post subject: Re: Rumor: Hawks 'highly interested' in acquiring Darrelle Revis
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How do you know we are wasting any time on this?

All we know is there was some talk that we were interested. We don't know how substantial either our interest or the report are.


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Oh we're 20% interested!

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Why are we even "interested"?

Here's why:

1. Pete Carroll thinking something needs to be changed on our Defense

2. He isn't into any of the DB'S in this draft

3. He has an idea! (When Pete has his idea's he is usually prepared to pull the trigger)

4. (Maybe) He thinks Revis can be our version of Charles Woodson and a more dominant version at that. (Nickleback, Cornerback, Saftey)


Pretty sure that the "somethings" that may need changing on defense are pretty obvious to anyone who watched last season. Pass rush all along the D-line and OLB. The secondary was outstanding and the bright spot on the defense, and we're rocking the best secondary in the entire NFL for PEANUTS. No need to bring in a high priced diva with an injury history to screw that up.

Again, I'd say that your "20%" idea based on the fact that we are 1 of 5 teams rumored to have an interest in Revis is 21% too high. Do you want to know why our team was connected with Revis? One word. Idzik.

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Maybe you should put Madden away, he has made changes on defesne new line coach new coordinator. Our problem for the 1000000000000000000000000099th time is not our damn secondary.

How do you know he doesn't like any DB's in the draft? is there an inside source who knows someone that is whispering sweet nothings in your ear?

Woodson is a guy that was brought in to lead the secondary there. We have leaders.

Lastly until you can run and cover again you ain't dominating anything. Also you better prove it before anyone gives you 6 million a year, thats 5.5 million more then the BEST CB in the league is making.


true, but the Nickel slot position needs to be ironed out.. it was clearly a big whole in our pass coverage. whether we bring someone in to fill it, use somebody already on the roster, or move people around, it needs to be addressed... don't think we use a draft pick on it with so many good CB's already on the roster.

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volsunghawk wrote:
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Why are we even "interested"?

Here's why:

1. Pete Carroll thinking something needs to be changed on our Defense

2. He isn't into any of the DB'S in this draft

3. He has an idea! (When Pete has his idea's he is usually prepared to pull the trigger)

4. (Maybe) He thinks Revis can be our version of Charles Woodson and a more dominant version at that. (Nickleback, Cornerback, Saftey)

Pass rush all along the D-line and OLB.


Clearly they will address the pass rush, but maybe they think Kam is a LB and its only a mattter of time until he is switched... I'll say this there is a better chance Kam becomes the WLB next year than us trading for Revis. Kam's run fits are really good and his LOS play is very LB like and we know about SPEED at LB!!!

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skater18000 wrote:
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Why are we even "interested"?

Here's why:

1. Pete Carroll thinking something needs to be changed on our Defense

2. He isn't into any of the DB'S in this draft

3. He has an idea! (When Pete has his idea's he is usually prepared to pull the trigger)

4. (Maybe) He thinks Revis can be our version of Charles Woodson and a more dominant version at that. (Nickleback, Cornerback, Saftey)

Pass rush all along the D-line and OLB.


Clearly they will address the pass rush, but maybe they think Kam is a LB and its only a mattter of time until he is switched... I'll say this there is a better chance Kam becomes the WLB next year than us trading for Revis. Kam's run fits are really good and his LOS play is very LB like and we know about SPEED at LB!!!


There's an equal chance of those things happening. The letter 'Z' is involved.

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 Post subject: Re: Rumor: Hawks 'highly interested' in acquiring Darrelle Revis
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I guess this can be officially put to rest after the twitter battle today between Sherm and Revis.


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I guess this can be officially put to rest after the twitter battle today between Sherm and Revis.

Honestly, I want Revis here even more now. It would just ramp up the competition aspect even more and can you imagine practices with each trying to outdo the other.


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I guess this can be officially put to rest after the twitter battle today between Sherm and Revis.

Honestly, I want Revis here even more now. It would just ramp up the competition aspect even more and can you imagine practices with each trying to outdo the other.


I'm having more trouble envisioning the cap hell that that move would put on the team.

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Today's Twitter war between Revis and Sherman (that Revis started) pretty much guarantees this is never happening. :)

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Unless they're in cahoots on a major punk on the media and giving us fans some off season entertainment... Revis now has about as good a chance as Lloyd Christmas at becoming a Seahawk.

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Unless they're in cahoots on a major punk on the media and giving us fans some off season entertainment... Revis now has about as good a chance as Lloyd Christmas at becoming a Seahawk.



Actually, Lloyd Christmas has 0% chance. Revis has 0.01836% chance. I calculated it.

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Your secondary is already pretty amazing. As a Niner fan I would hate it if you guys picked up Revis knowing that we would have to face you guys with Sherman and Revis on the field twice each season.

What is the likelihood that you guys would trade away Browner if the Revis situation materializes for your team?

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What is the likelihood that you guys would trade away Browner if the Revis situation materializes for your team?


I'd have to imagine fairly high, but not until after this season. Regardless, we are not going after Revis. You simply do not pay someone else 10x more when they bring only a small upgrade over what you have. Don't get me wrong, Revis is definitely a more skilled CB than Browner, but not by a lot. Browner's mad trash-talking gets receivers hitting him and being distracted by him. Did you know Browner actually threatened Sherman on the field during our season opener at Arizona? He told Sherman to stop being soft on Fitzgerald because he was an idol of Sherman's and threatened to beat his ass (not an exact quote, but that was the gist of it) after the game if he didn't start covering him like he should have. Rofl.

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The Eagles already tried spending a TON of money on their corners. The issue in a salary cap league is you have to spend less somewhere else. You don't pay Revis so that you CAN'T pay Sherman in one year. Won't happen plus you are setting a bar for Sherman in a year that is higer than what Revis is getting.

Sherman might resign here for $15 million even if Revis makes $16 million somewhere else (numbers out of thin air). But if we get Revis and he signs here for $16 million / year then you bet every penny you have that Sherman will want AT LEAST $16 million and one penny........


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I don't see Revis playing here or SF. I like Browner out there anyways. There are folks who think he isn't a great cover guy, but he holds his own well when he doesn't flat take his guy out of the play.

I see Revis as an improvement for SF for sure, but I think the SF secondary is better than they looked at the end because if the DLine play dropping off without JSmith being 100%. The Hawks just blasted that line for the most part without him and Rodgers/Brown/Culliver were being asked to cover too long. Those guys are much better with a good pass rush and I would think Baalke and Hardouche want to invest their money there if they can.

Wonder what that Smith trade will warrant... Possible they use that chip to address their DLine OR secondary.

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Get Revis...sign Randy Starks...Trade Browner and Flynn for some picks or a WR...sounds good to me. Even though I love Browners pysicality!!


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