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Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:33 am
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  • I think he’d be a good signing as a piece to the puzzle, not as “the man”.
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  • I'm not sure there's a real point. Stopgap, maybe; but imo a waste of a roster spot given what's given.
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  • That's it! Lets do what we did last year and get an aging RB vet that can't stay healthy.
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  • He's from Lacey, WA so part of me would like to see him in the #2 role, but there are a few backs I'd like to draft so likely not.
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  • I'd be OK with very low guarantees.

    Remember, we're talking 90 man roster here, not 53.
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  • iigakusei wrote:Eddie Lacy Part 2 - he is done.


    Yeah that's my concern as well. I don't want another vet RB with his best days behind him.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:I think he’d be a good signing as a piece to the puzzle, not as “the man”.



    You wouldn't say that if he went to Oregon State.
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  • Stewart>Lacy
    Stewart> Rawls
    Stewart>CJ Prosise
    $1M ($585K cap) Stewart = $1.79M Mike Davis

    IF we are really in a cap crunch Stweart will be more than $1M less than Mike Davis. I could see that money being very valuabel and we know MD is never going to be a #1 RB.

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  • Wenhawk wrote:Stewart>Lacey
    Stewart> Rawls
    Stewart>CJ Prosise
    $1M ($585K cap) Stewart = $1.79M Mike Davis

    IF we are really in a cap crunch Stweart will be more than $1M less than Mike Davis. I could see that money being very valuabel and we know MD is never going to be a #1 RB.

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    I had considered the very same thing and it's worth considering.

    I'd still rather draft a back though.
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  • I've always been a fan of Stewart being a local guy but zero chance I take him over Prosise or Davis I think, at the moment.
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  • If this happens, Schneider has gone full Ruskell.

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  • Stewart could be good RB depth for you guys. The Lacey comparisons are off imo, as Lacey has never been very good. Stewart doesn't have as much wear and tear as your typical 30+ year old RB, as he was part of a committee with Deangelo Williams for all those years as well as injuries that kept him out. The Panthers run blocking was atrocious last year and could never get anything going, so it's not like Stewart just completely lost his effectiveness. His cap savings were just too good for the Panthers to pass up as they look to acquire a power back through the draft.

    All that to say, it makes sense for Stewart to finish his career in Seattle as he is a local guy. He's a great locker room presence and he'll give you everything he has out on the field, when he's not banged up. You might be pleasantly surprised with how it turns out.
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  • Steve2222 wrote:Played against him in high school. Was a man amongst boys. My god.



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Re: Jonathan Stewart is visiting Seahawks
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:17 am
  • Cary Kollins wrote:Stewart could be good RB depth for you guys. The Lacey comparisons are off imo, as Lacey has never been very good. Stewart doesn't have as much wear and tear as your typical 30+ year old RB, as he was part of a committee with Deangelo Williams for all those years as well as injuries that kept him out. The Panthers run blocking was atrocious last year and could never get anything going, so it's not like Stewart just completely lost his effectiveness. His cap savings were just too good for the Panthers to pass up as they look to acquire a power back through the draft.

    All that to say, it makes sense for Stewart to finish his career in Seattle as he is a local guy. He's a great locker room presence and he'll give you everything he has out on the field, when he's not banged up. You might be pleasantly surprised with how it turns out.


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Re: Jonathan Stewart is visiting Seahawks
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:33 am
  • What's the harm in a meeting? Does both sides good, imo. There was no travel expense and some smoke to the fire.
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Re: Jonathan Stewart is visiting Seahawks
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:53 am
  • Panthers run blocking was atrocious last year and could never get anything going


    Hmmm why does this strike me as familiar and also why would we bring him in then.

    If he is here to take reps ok, no guarantee and no bonus, but no nostalgia either about what ifs. He better earn it.
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Re: Jonathan Stewart is visiting Seahawks
Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:09 am
  • First Cushings and now Stewart. Since when does rebuilding consist of trying out dinosaurs? We will not be pleasantly surprised with Johnathon Stewart. He will be much less productive here than he even was with Carolina last season.

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Re: Jonathan Stewart is visiting Seahawks
Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:31 am
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    Steve2222 wrote:Played against him in high school. Was a man amongst boys. My god.



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Re: Jonathan Stewart is visiting Seahawks
Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:36 am
  • pittpnthrs wrote:First Cushings and now Stewart. Since when does rebuilding consist of trying out dinosaurs? We will not be pleasantly surprised with Johnathon Stewart. He will be much less productive here than he even was with Carolina last season.

    (waiting for somebody to preach the 'no stones left unturned'}


    Lawyer Malloy and Brandon Stokley say "Hello!"

    Filling some roster holes with veterans is absolutely fine in "rebuild" phases imo. They provide great locker room presence and on-field leadership.

    Not like it's a guarantee he'd even make the team.
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Re: Jonathan Stewart is visiting Seahawks
Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:38 am
  • Bingo!
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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Re: Jonathan Stewart is visiting Seahawks
Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:53 am
  • I so wanted us to draft this guy back in the day. he was a beast. The Panthers had two great backs.
    Don't know much about him lately.
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  • Atradees wrote:I so wanted us to draft this guy back in the day. he was a beast. The Panthers had two great backs.
    Don't know much about him lately.


    When not running behind a bad line he gets Cam a fresh towel to cry in.
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  • Yes let’s rebuild with over the hill vets hoooooooooorayyyyyyyy
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  • Let's assume the worst before it even happens. Yayyyyy
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  • Atradees wrote:I so wanted us to draft this guy back in the day. he was a beast. The Panthers had two great backs.
    Don't know much about him lately.

    Same here, once the Alexander era abruptly died. That was so long ago, though. He's done.
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  • Maelstrom787 wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:First Cushings and now Stewart. Since when does rebuilding consist of trying out dinosaurs? We will not be pleasantly surprised with Johnathon Stewart. He will be much less productive here than he even was with Carolina last season.

    (waiting for somebody to preach the 'no stones left unturned'}


    Lawyer Malloy and Brandon Stokley say "Hello!"

    Filling some roster holes with veterans is absolutely fine in "rebuild" phases imo. They provide great locker room presence and on-field leadership.

    Not like it's a guarantee he'd even make the team.

    Safety and possession receiver vs over 30 running back seriously.. horrible analogy
    Yes let’s bring in the guy who was out rushed by his qb with 200 attempts awesome
    Seriously is this the plan ?
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  • My god, have a drink and relax.
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Let's assume the worst before it even happens. Yayyyyy

    We are in full rebuild the WORST IS HERE NOW lol :pukeface:
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  • There are 31 other teams to pull for. Suck it up
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:There are 31 other teams to pull for. Suck it up


    Lol you gonna take your ball home too ?

    Well hey let’s just hope and pray everything gets better :roll:
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  • hawksincebirth wrote:
    Maelstrom787 wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:First Cushings and now Stewart. Since when does rebuilding consist of trying out dinosaurs? We will not be pleasantly surprised with Johnathon Stewart. He will be much less productive here than he even was with Carolina last season.

    (waiting for somebody to preach the 'no stones left unturned'}


    Lawyer Malloy and Brandon Stokley say "Hello!"

    Filling some roster holes with veterans is absolutely fine in "rebuild" phases imo. They provide great locker room presence and on-field leadership.

    Not like it's a guarantee he'd even make the team.

    Safety and possession receiver vs over 30 running back seriously.. horrible analogy
    Yes let’s bring in the guy who was out rushed by his qb with 200 attempts awesome
    Seriously is this the plan ?


    Nice to see you're holding grudges. At least the examples I listed actually play the same sport.

    I was merely giving examples of older players who've been signed by Seattle during periods where the roster is in transition. Not sure what you have against that, champ.

    I have not a single thing against looking to Jonathan Stewart for depth. He might not make it through camp, and that's fine.
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  • hawkman wrote::pukeface:

    :ditto:

    Signing him to guaranteed money would be a huge mistake IMO. Demarco Murray too.
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  • hawksincebirth wrote:
    SoulfishHawk wrote:Let's assume the worst before it even happens. Yayyyyy

    We are in full rebuild the WORST IS HERE NOW lol :pukeface:


    You have got to be kidding me, I doubt you were ever here for the worst if you think that right now is the worst for the Hawks. They're getting rid of some vets who either haven't been living up to their contracts or have injury issues (usually both). Yes some of those players were key pieces for us in previous years, but we still have several of the other keys, notably the most important of all: a QB! That is what we never had when the hawks were at their worst, not even Hass' or T Jack's worst years were as bad as those years.
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    Don't think he has too much left, the panthers Oline did all they could for their rb but their backs just couldn't produce. Look at the other teams near the top Gurley, Fournette, Kamara and Ingram all had great years, Stewart not so much. I'm all for improving but don't let people lie to you and say he didn't produce because of the panthers run blocking, because that couldn't be farther from the truth
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  • hawksincebirth wrote:
    Maelstrom787 wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:First Cushings and now Stewart. Since when does rebuilding consist of trying out dinosaurs? We will not be pleasantly surprised with Johnathon Stewart. He will be much less productive here than he even was with Carolina last season.

    (waiting for somebody to preach the 'no stones left unturned'}


    Lawyer Malloy and Brandon Stokley say "Hello!"

    Filling some roster holes with veterans is absolutely fine in "rebuild" phases imo. They provide great locker room presence and on-field leadership.

    Not like it's a guarantee he'd even make the team.

    Safety and possession receiver vs over 30 running back seriously.. horrible analogy
    Yes let’s bring in the guy who was out rushed by his qb with 200 attempts awesome
    Seriously is this the plan ?


    Exactly. We're talking about an over 30 roided out headcase of a LB with no knees and an over 30 RB that didn't look good on a team with a better line than ours. Bring in the hungry youngsters, not the dying fossils.
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  • This feels like the Franco Harris deal reincarnated.
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  • If we sign guys to minimum deals or similar does that get cancelled out by guys leaving on minimum deals to others or does it cancel out comp picks for the big ones we expect?

    We are hoping for 3rd round for Richardson and Sheldon. As long as we have the same number of guys leaving without counting them as guys we sign as FA before June we still get good comp picks for those guys or is that not how it works?
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  • No thank you. His body has taken a lot of punishment for a long time.

    And he's played behind a good line for a long time.

    No to DeMarco Murray too. His yards have been dropping while Henry's YPC have been good. So it's not the line. It's age, wear and tear, and injuries.
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  • pittpnthrs wrote:
    hawksincebirth wrote:
    Maelstrom787 wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:First Cushings and now Stewart. Since when does rebuilding consist of trying out dinosaurs? We will not be pleasantly surprised with Johnathon Stewart. He will be much less productive here than he even was with Carolina last season.

    (waiting for somebody to preach the 'no stones left unturned'}


    Lawyer Malloy and Brandon Stokley say "Hello!"

    Filling some roster holes with veterans is absolutely fine in "rebuild" phases imo. They provide great locker room presence and on-field leadership.

    Not like it's a guarantee he'd even make the team.

    Safety and possession receiver vs over 30 running back seriously.. horrible analogy
    Yes let’s bring in the guy who was out rushed by his qb with 200 attempts awesome
    Seriously is this the plan ?


    Exactly. We're talking about an over 30 roided out headcase of a LB with no knees and an over 30 RB that didn't look good on a team with a better line than ours. Bring in the hungry youngsters, not the dying fossils.


    Yeah, we are. My point is that we've done well before with kicking the tires on some old folks to provide leadership and fill holes when the team gets much younger, kind of like 2010.

    Pete and John are cutting bait with a lot of guys and have a lot of holes to fill. I have no problem with them looking at some vets and maybe squeeze their last year of football out of them.

    Do I have high expectations? Hell no! But I have no problem with a visit lmao. If either of these guys get signed, they're just depth and veteran locker room leadership.
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  • HawkFan72 wrote:
    iigakusei wrote:Eddie Lacy Part 2 - he is done.


    Yeah that's my concern as well. I don't want another vet RB with his best days behind him.

    Heck I’m pretty sure his second best days are behind him.
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  • Eddy Lacy V. 2.0

    Seattle doesnt learn then Pete and JS will be out very soon.
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  • hawksincebirth wrote:Lol you gonna take your ball home too ?

    Well hey let’s just hope and pray everything gets better :roll:


    As a fan, what else can we do? We are observers and ticket/swag purchasers. That's about all the control we have.

    I suppose in addition, we can moan and complain, but that makes for lousy company... and friends don't let friends make themselves odious. :2thumbs:
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Re: Jonathan Stewart is visiting Seahawks
Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:27 am
  • I spent a little time watching his replays after hearing the Seahawks were giving him a look. His running style is a pretty good fit for us, aggressive, fast, downhill, smash mouth, running back, that can get the ball in the end zone when it counts.
    Like all running backs in the NFL, they are a paid tackle dummy and injuries are inevitable. There are things that can be done to better protect them both in equipment and conditioning. I think we’d be nearsighted not to give him a serious look. He might be exactly what we’re looking for, if we can sign him at a good price.

    I think we’ve got a really solid running back for the season, but we all know that can change in the blink of an eye. So it would be nice to have a couple a good back ups on hand, should that occur. Even Marshawn Lynch couldn’t stay on the field an entire season, he was out periodically with injuries throughout his career Seattle as well.
    I see Carson and Davis as our lead RBs this year, with McKissick and CJ running short pass plays. CJ needs to prove he can stay healthy in the NFL, the jury is still out on that one I think.

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