San Francisco 49ers linebacker Reuben Foster was arrested Sunday on charges of domestic violence, according to reports.

Foster, a 23-year-old first-round pick in last year's NFL draft, was arrested in Los Gatos in Santa Clara County, California, and is currently being held without bail, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

County jail records show the NFL player’s bail has been set at $75,000.

Foster also was arrested on suspicion of possessing an assault rifle, according to the Mercury News.



Foster’s arrest would be his second within a month. On Jan. 18, he was arrested and charged with second-degree possession of marijuana.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/02/1 ... s-say.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 101018026/

Sigh.

Freaking moron.

I gave him a pass after the weed but this? Good riddance looks like we drafting a LB at 9 or 10

The more things change.....the more they stay the same.

SF49r wrote:I gave him a pass after the weed but this? Good riddance looks like we drafting a LB at 9 or 10

Ya he looks to be a bad apple and I’m sure that you guys will bounce him to the curb.

The only good thing out of this for you guys is the timing, as FA and the combine hasn’t even started yet.

Aldon Smith 2.0

The 4 to Lifers saga continues.

When he "fell" to us in the first round, I was livid that we didn't take him to pair up with BWags.

Further evidence that I would be the worst GM that ever lived.

Niners need to release him. I was glad the Hawks avoided him. Too stupid.

Overrated and questionable character and attitude.

Idiot. Wanna see what the substance of the DV charge is before they cut him. A push I don’t like but can live with, but any more than that, and I’m good with cutting him.

Cut him, cut him now. He is a pile of crap. Screw him. Seriously just when things are looking up this moron acts like a jackass

This is part of the problem with going discount shopping for big time talents. You can’t be totally risk adverse, because sometimes you get Tyrann Matthieu or Frank Clark, but other times you might get Reuben Foster, Randy Gregory or Malik McDowell.

kobebryant wrote:This is part of the problem with going discount shopping for big time talents. You can’t be totally risk adverse, because sometimes you get Tyrann Matthieu or Frank Clark, but other times you might get Reuben Foster, Randy Gregory or Malik McDowell.

Malik McDowell hardly fits the DV situation, he made a stupid mistake with the ATV incident and was a loud mouth to authority.

Pro Football Focus had him rated as Elite this season, as the 4th best linebacker. Yet this moron is throwing everything away. I don't want him cut, because some other team will sign him. I want the 49ers to suspend his ass for the maximum the league allows, then the league to suspend him, and THEN cut him at the beginning of next season.



Or better yet, trade his ass to the Browns as a warning to other players.

That's a wrap on his career...

5_Golden_Rings wrote:Pro Football Focus had him rated as Elite this season, as the 4th best linebacker. Yet this moron is throwing everything away. I don't want him cut, because some other team will sign him. I want the 49ers to suspend his ass for the maximum the league allows, then the league to suspend him, and THEN cut him at the beginning of next season.



Or better yet, trade his ass to the Browns as a warning to other players.

If the DV reports are true no one will want to trade for him, outside of maybe Jerruh Jones, but he won’t trade for him, he’d wait until he is cut. This guy, if Rog allows him to play after this will be 1 strike away from a lifetime ban. This is the second time he has gotten in trouble with the law THIS offseason.

Total fool.

Be interesting to see what the 49ers do with him.

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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Even my Niner fan friends are saying they think he should be cut. What a waste

SoulfishHawk wrote:Even my Niner fan friends are saying they think he should be cut. What a waste

The times have really changed, even in the last six months.

I think there's a real chance that guys like Joe Mixon, Frank Clark, and Tyrek Hill wouldn't even get drafted today. I've got no problem with that, just as I've got no problem with the 9ers cutting him if this is anywhere as serious as it sounds.

I'd support the team fully if they decide to cut him, but I don't expect that they will.

Like it or not, talent level plays a big part in how these issues are dealt with. Additionally, Reuben is very well liked in the locker room and by Kyle and John in particular. This isn't a defense of him BTW, Im just saying what I THINK is going to happen.

My guess is that they will have a long talk with him and then suspend him (perhaps not even waiting for the league to take action). This is it though. If there is another infraction, he's done. Sadly, in that case it may only be a matter of time. Somebody has to smack him upside the head to get through to him. He's throwing it all away.

The thing we don't know though is exactly what happened. There is nothing she could have done that would warrant him putting his hands on her, but if he grabbed her wrist its one thing. If he punched her? He's done now. He'll be released TODAY.

Marvin49 wrote:I'd support the team fully if they decide to cut him, but I don't expect that they will.

Like it or not, talent level plays a big part in how these issues are dealt with. Additionally, Reuben is very well liked in the locker room and by Kyle and John in particular. This isn't a defense of him BTW, Im just saying what I THINK is going to happen.

My guess is that they will have a long talk with him and then suspend him (perhaps not even waiting for the league to take action). This is it though. If there is another infraction, he's done. Sadly, in that case it may only be a matter of time. Somebody has to smack him upside the head to get through to him. He's throwing it all away.

The thing we don't know though is exactly what happened. There is nothing she could have done that would warrant him putting his hands on her, but if he grabbed her wrist its one thing. If he punched her? He's done now. He'll be released TODAY.

Sorry man but I disagree. John and Kyle have already set the tone. Last off-season Robinson (I think ) was cut for the SAME issue. I think they have to continue to set the tone in the locker room that no one is above the standard. Hell they released Bowman. He slowed down, but was a locker room leader. The Niners organization needs to cut ties with players that are off-season cancers.

They could always draft another LB or two. Lets be real Foster was never going to play a full season. He is made of glass. Its better to bite the bullet now than to deal with another off-season of turmoil. Just my opinion.

Yet, plenty of people on here toasted the Hawks for their so called "horrible" decision to not get this guy. There's a reason he fell that far down in the draft.

rlkats wrote:

Marvin49 wrote:I'd support the team fully if they decide to cut him, but I don't expect that they will.

Like it or not, talent level plays a big part in how these issues are dealt with. Additionally, Reuben is very well liked in the locker room and by Kyle and John in particular. This isn't a defense of him BTW, Im just saying what I THINK is going to happen.

My guess is that they will have a long talk with him and then suspend him (perhaps not even waiting for the league to take action). This is it though. If there is another infraction, he's done. Sadly, in that case it may only be a matter of time. Somebody has to smack him upside the head to get through to him. He's throwing it all away.

The thing we don't know though is exactly what happened. There is nothing she could have done that would warrant him putting his hands on her, but if he grabbed her wrist its one thing. If he punched her? He's done now. He'll be released TODAY.

Sorry man but I disagree. John and Kyle have already set the tone. Last off-season Robinson (I think ) was cut for the SAME issue. I think they have to continue to set the tone in the locker room that no one is above the standard. Hell they released Bowman. He slowed down, but was a locker room leader. The Niners organization needs to cut ties with players that are off-season cancers.

They could always draft another LB or two. Lets be real Foster was never going to play a full season. He is made of glass. Its better to bite the bullet now than to deal with another off-season of turmoil. Just my opinion.

Don't misunderstand me...

...I'm not saying what SHOULD happen. I'm saying what I think WILL happen. To be honest...I haven't really decided what I think should happen, but I'm leaning toward release. The hard part is that I dunno what really happened.

The reason I think they will keep him though is that John and Kyle really had no connection with Brock. It was an easy decision. I have always thought there was more going on with Navarro. What little I've heard involved insubordination and a very unhappy player who was taken off the field on passing downs.

This is different. They are far more likely to give him another chance given what they have invested in him (and I'm not talking about the $$$ or draft pick, I'm talking about the fact that he was one of THEIR guys).

He could be released today and I won't have a problem with it, but I just don't think thats whats gonna happen. If it does, I think that'll tell you it was a severe incident.

If the DO release him, it'll send a really clear signal to the rest of the team not to screw up. It will also tell them that there are no second chances.

It would be nice to see a team send that message. So many players seem to think they can do whatever they want w/out consequences.

SoulfishHawk wrote:Yet, plenty of people on here toasted the Hawks for their so called "horrible" decision to not get this guy. There's a reason he fell that far down in the draft.

There were still people very, very recently roasting the FO for "giving Foster to the 9ers". Boy do they look stupid.

SoulfishHawk wrote:It would be nice to see a team send that message. So many players seem to think they can do whatever they want w/out consequences.

Thats true, but nobody wants to be THAT team who has to make the sacrifice of a possibly great player to make that point.

They all want it to be some other team to take the hit. Niners went through this with Aldon and with Ray McDonald...while its a bit different and we don't know everything yet, it sucks to be here again.

chris98251 wrote:

kobebryant wrote:This is part of the problem with going discount shopping for big time talents. You can’t be totally risk adverse, because sometimes you get Tyrann Matthieu or Frank Clark, but other times you might get Reuben Foster, Randy Gregory or Malik McDowell.

Malik McDowell hardly fits the DV situation, he made a stupid mistake with the ATV incident and was a loud mouth to authority.

My apologies, I didn’t mean to imply all those guys had comparable issues (should have been clear with the inclusion of Tyrann) , just examples of how sometimes rolling the dice on talents who have been devalued due to any variety of red flags can sometimes pay off and sometimes don’t. But the payoff on a hit is often well worth it .

That sucks.

Hopefully the victim in question is okay, and Foster can find some help dealing with his demons.

Chapow wrote:

SoulfishHawk wrote:Yet, plenty of people on here toasted the Hawks for their so called "horrible" decision to not get this guy. There's a reason he fell that far down in the draft.

There were still people very, very recently roasting the FO for "giving Foster to the 9ers". Boy do they look stupid.

Yeah the Hawks really put that pick to good use.

Marvin49 wrote:

rlkats wrote:

Marvin49 wrote:I'd support the team fully if they decide to cut him, but I don't expect that they will.

Like it or not, talent level plays a big part in how these issues are dealt with. Additionally, Reuben is very well liked in the locker room and by Kyle and John in particular. This isn't a defense of him BTW, Im just saying what I THINK is going to happen.

My guess is that they will have a long talk with him and then suspend him (perhaps not even waiting for the league to take action). This is it though. If there is another infraction, he's done. Sadly, in that case it may only be a matter of time. Somebody has to smack him upside the head to get through to him. He's throwing it all away.

The thing we don't know though is exactly what happened. There is nothing she could have done that would warrant him putting his hands on her, but if he grabbed her wrist its one thing. If he punched her? He's done now. He'll be released TODAY.

Sorry man but I disagree. John and Kyle have already set the tone. Last off-season Robinson (I think ) was cut for the SAME issue. I think they have to continue to set the tone in the locker room that no one is above the standard. Hell they released Bowman. He slowed down, but was a locker room leader. The Niners organization needs to cut ties with players that are off-season cancers.

They could always draft another LB or two. Lets be real Foster was never going to play a full season. He is made of glass. Its better to bite the bullet now than to deal with another off-season of turmoil. Just my opinion.

Don't misunderstand me...

...I'm not saying what SHOULD happen. I'm saying what I think WILL happen. To be honest...I haven't really decided what I think should happen, but I'm leaning toward release. The hard part is that I dunno what really happened.

The reason I think they will keep him though is that John and Kyle really had no connection with Brock. It was an easy decision. I have always thought there was more going on with Navarro. What little I've heard involved insubordination and a very unhappy player who was taken off the field on passing downs.

This is different. They are far more likely to give him another chance given what they have invested in him (and I'm not talking about the $$$ or draft pick, I'm talking about the fact that he was one of THEIR guys).

He could be released today and I won't have a problem with it, but I just don't think thats whats gonna happen. If it does, I think that'll tell you it was a severe incident.

If the DO release him, it'll send a really clear signal to the rest of the team not to screw up. It will also tell them that there are no second chances.

Its a messed up situation regardless. Sad.

I don't know, I've seen some pretty physically aggressive women. I think it is funny how people in general think an ass kicking just falls from the sky for no reason. Not saying women deserve to be hit but I wish society would hold women liable as well. Two men get into a fight they are both getting arrested if the police are called. I think everyone can agree that two people, especially grown adults, shouldn't assault each other.

Man hits man it's a fight or assault.

Man hits women it's domestic violence.

Glad they are equal, man will be charged almost every time yet we see the other side of the coin with harassment and discrimination also.

My Aunt would take a coffee cup (plastic) and hit herself and call the cops when she was pissed at her husband and said that at a family get together. She said she can mess up his world with a phone call, he hits her she calls, he don't she uses the coffee cup and calls, they take him either way and he can't argue it.

chris98251 wrote:Man hits man it's a fight or assault.

Man hits women it's domestic violence.

This statement isn't true. The difference between DV and assault isn't the sex of the perpetrator or the victim, it's the situation. It's DV assault if it's on a family member or significant other. It's just assault if it's on someone outside that close circle of famiy/partner

Back on topic...2 arrests in a month, there'd have to be some overwhelming evidence in his favor for me to say he should not be cut whether he was on my team or another.

kidhawk wrote:

chris98251 wrote:Man hits man it's a fight or assault.

Man hits women it's domestic violence.

This statement isn't true. The difference between DV and assault isn't the sex of the perpetrator or the victim, it's the situation. It's DV assault if it's on a family member or significant other. It's just assault if it's on someone outside that close circle of famiy/partner

Back on topic...2 arrests in a month, there'd have to be some overwhelming evidence in his favor for me to say he should not be cut whether he was on my team or another.

Ok you live here, Uncle Bob and women fight it's DV,

Uncle Bob and Me it's a fight and a assault.

Uncle Bob and a kid it's assault and child abuse.

It depends very much on the arresting officer how it is written up.

Plenty of women get arrested for Domestic Violence. Plenty

chris98251 wrote:Man hits man it's a fight or assault.

Man hits women it's domestic violence.

Glad they are equal, man will be charged almost every time yet we see the other side of the coin with harassment and discrimination also.

My Aunt would take a coffee cup (plastic) and hit herself and call the cops when she was pissed at her husband and said that at a family get together. She said she can mess up his world with a phone call, he hits her she calls, he don't she uses the coffee cup and calls, they take him either way and he can't argue it.

Two points -

First, do you apply this experiential skepticism to any other large group of demographics and if not, why not and if so why so? Think about how you treat populations with corrupted or phony individuals within a greater superset of individuals - this isn't to discredit the idea that there are bad faith actors in DV situations but the incredulousness seems reserved for entire demographics that you have seen individually acting in bad faith, which seems short sighted.

Secondly, I've seen a handful of same-sex DV cases in my own neighborhood - Capitol Hill. As the post above me states plainly it is the contextual situation and relationship between people that defines assault versus DV.

adeltaY wrote:

Chapow wrote:

SoulfishHawk wrote:Yet, plenty of people on here toasted the Hawks for their so called "horrible" decision to not get this guy. There's a reason he fell that far down in the draft.

There were still people very, very recently roasting the FO for "giving Foster to the 9ers". Boy do they look stupid.

Yeah the Hawks really put that pick to good use.

First of all, I don't see what that has to do with my comment that people look stupid for raking the FO over the coals for "giving Foster to the 9ers".

Second, they used their pick to trade down 3 spots, gaining a high 4th round pick, and still got the guy they wanted.

Finally, McDowell missed his rookie season. That happens to lots of guys for lots of different reasons. He's still 21 years old and could still turn out to be a good player. We don't know yet.

Chapow wrote:

adeltaY wrote:

Chapow wrote:

SoulfishHawk wrote:Yet, plenty of people on here toasted the Hawks for their so called "horrible" decision to not get this guy. There's a reason he fell that far down in the draft.

There were still people very, very recently roasting the FO for "giving Foster to the 9ers". Boy do they look stupid.

Yeah the Hawks really put that pick to good use.

First of all, I don't see what that has to do with my comment that people look stupid for raking the FO over the coals for "giving Foster to the 9ers".

Second, they used their pick to trade down 3 spots, gaining a high 4th round pick, and still got the guy they wanted.

Finally, McDowell missed his rookie season. That happens to lots of guys for lots of different reasons. He's still 21 years old and could still turn out to be a good player. We don't know yet.

I for one definitely was in the "wanting Foster" camp, but I was ok with out pick at the time, it just wasn't the one I'd have taken. But then again, I generally admit that I am not cut out to be an NFL GM

kidhawk wrote:

Chapow wrote:

adeltaY wrote:

Chapow wrote:
There were still people very, very recently roasting the FO for "giving Foster to the 9ers". Boy do they look stupid.

Yeah the Hawks really put that pick to good use.

First of all, I don't see what that has to do with my comment that people look stupid for raking the FO over the coals for "giving Foster to the 9ers".

Second, they used their pick to trade down 3 spots, gaining a high 4th round pick, and still got the guy they wanted.

Finally, McDowell missed his rookie season. That happens to lots of guys for lots of different reasons. He's still 21 years old and could still turn out to be a good player. We don't know yet.

I for one definitely was in the "wanting Foster" camp, but I was ok with out pick at the time, it just wasn't the one I'd have taken. But then again, I generally admit that I am not cut out to be an NFL GM

None of us are.

Marvin49 wrote:

kidhawk wrote:

Chapow wrote:

adeltaY wrote:
Yeah the Hawks really put that pick to good use.

First of all, I don't see what that has to do with my comment that people look stupid for raking the FO over the coals for "giving Foster to the 9ers".

Second, they used their pick to trade down 3 spots, gaining a high 4th round pick, and still got the guy they wanted.

Finally, McDowell missed his rookie season. That happens to lots of guys for lots of different reasons. He's still 21 years old and could still turn out to be a good player. We don't know yet.

I for one definitely was in the "wanting Foster" camp, but I was ok with out pick at the time, it just wasn't the one I'd have taken. But then again, I generally admit that I am not cut out to be an NFL GM

None of us are.

What GM job would allow dragon cloud vaping of all things vapable?

chris98251 wrote:

kidhawk wrote:

chris98251 wrote:Man hits man it's a fight or assault.

Man hits women it's domestic violence.

This statement isn't true. The difference between DV and assault isn't the sex of the perpetrator or the victim, it's the situation. It's DV assault if it's on a family member or significant other. It's just assault if it's on someone outside that close circle of famiy/partner

Back on topic...2 arrests in a month, there'd have to be some overwhelming evidence in his favor for me to say he should not be cut whether he was on my team or another.

Ok you live here, Uncle Bob and women fight it's DV,

Uncle Bob and Me it's a fight and a assault.

Uncle Bob and a kid it's assault and child abuse.

It depends very much on the arresting officer how it is written up.

It matters legally and criminally what we call violence................THAT'S why all these examples of violence are categorized differently in the eyes of the law and court system.

They all carry different charges, different levels of criminal severity, different agencies involved depending on the classification.

Not sure what your point is Chris, cause it seems like you're trying to take a shot at some gender equality hypocrisy. But when there's violence, it certainly matters how we classify it.

Marvin49 wrote:

kidhawk wrote:

Chapow wrote:

adeltaY wrote:
Yeah the Hawks really put that pick to good use.

First of all, I don't see what that has to do with my comment that people look stupid for raking the FO over the coals for "giving Foster to the 9ers".

Second, they used their pick to trade down 3 spots, gaining a high 4th round pick, and still got the guy they wanted.

Finally, McDowell missed his rookie season. That happens to lots of guys for lots of different reasons. He's still 21 years old and could still turn out to be a good player. We don't know yet.

I for one definitely was in the "wanting Foster" camp, but I was ok with out pick at the time, it just wasn't the one I'd have taken. But then again, I generally admit that I am not cut out to be an NFL GM

None of us are.

So true, but you might be surprised at the number of people who really believe they are

Yep, plenty on this site who think they are qualified

...so more detail...

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/02/12/ ... urces-say/

A statement from Los Gatos-Monte Sereno police says officers were dispatched around 9:15 a.m. Sunday to a home on Shannon Road for a welfare check and to respond to a possible disturbance. Foster was eventually arrested without incident.

Police did not release any additional details, but sources familiar with the investigation say the victim told officers that she and Foster were arguing and that he threw her belongings onto a front walkway and balcony. At some point, she said he physically dragged her in an apparent attempt to remove her from the home, sources said.

According to an archived police dispatch radio recording of the 911 call, “the RP (reporting party) advises there should be at least two AR-15 weapons in the house.”

Both that statement and the domestic-violence allegation would provide cause for police to search for and remove any firearms from the home. It was apparently during that search that officers found the allegedly illegal rifle.

Need more details of exactly what went down, but if he put her stuff on the porch and forcibly removed her from the house (without striking her, dragging her by her hair, tossing her, etc) I can live with that. Anything more than that and I’m still all for booting him.

SoulfishHawk wrote: So many players seem to think they can do whatever they want w/out consequences.

IIRC NFL players have a lower arrest rate than the general population. When they get arrested we just hear about it. Lots of myths that surround sports.