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 Post subject: Re: More uni info......(sort of)
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Surely this is a fantastic opportunity for the team to allow Seahawks.net to talk about something other than quarterbacks for the next month before free agency!? They should be working this into a frenzy with weekly teasers... or by just revealing the uni's. We'll be too busy talking draft in April!


Nothing would make me laugh harder then if Tarvaris Jackson starts every game next season while wearing virtually the same jersey as we've had, with nothing different but a Nike swoosh.

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Adding more totem style would be a good thing, IMO.



We need a seahawk totem pole outside of c-link. I wonder if we could even do that? that would be cool to pay tribute to the native american culture in this area seahawk style.


The Seahawk is already done much in a totem style, which does pay tribute to the area and it should. Seattle itself was named after a Chief.

I'm not talking about adding something major. Maybe the stripe down the pants or any stripes at all could be done totem style. If we're wanting to set our unis apart from the rest of the league that would be a great way to pay tribute to the city/chief/native influence of the area and I absolutely think it could be done in a subtle manner.


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Basically what you do is take the stripe down the pants and replace it with a stripe full of repeated styles of Totem Seahawks. The stripe would still be there....it would just be better. Obviously leave the totem head figure out so it can remain a stripe.

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The top two are belt buckles, BTW. Apparently someone has already made a totem seahawk belt buckle.


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The real test of the uniform is not how it looks as a concept, but how it looks on a sweaty 350 pound man covered in grass stains.

Part of what makes those Nike concept things look cool is the fact they mimic a photo with a foggy background and ridiculously low light. They can be really vague with colors that way.


It's kinda like the political poles that have some guy running against an anonymous Republican or Democrat, as opposed to running against someone specific. It might be good for the image, but the reality is far less attractive.

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Matter of fact, if I could make a cheap copy of this and make it blue and green I'd wear that ish to every game I went to.

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Silver is the quickest way to dilute our uniqueness. I really don't want to look more like the Cowboys/Lions/Raiders/Patriots/Panthers/whoever.

I don't really see what's unique about our uniforms now. They have no personality. They try to be "hip" and it just comes off as...eh.

Eye of the beholder. I think they look great and have lots of personality as is.

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please for the love of god no silver.


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Yeah I have to say I am all for bringing back the silver as long as it isn't that flat, grey from the 70's/80's. My concept is close to what I wouldn't mind seeing...Make the blue a deep blue, the green a deep green, put that bird prominently back on the sleeves (a nice nod to yester-year) and I think we could have some sweet uniforms.



This is where our opinions differ, cuz I love the matte grays; i.e. Oregon Ducks & NY Giants use 'em well.

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and the silver represents salmon.



In that case, let's use pink.


Pink represents something else. :mrgreen:

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I realize the area was steeped in Native American culture, however, I would like to see us try a logo without that influence.

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FANTASTIC! As long as we kill the current color scheme I'll be happy with anything, especially with silver helmets and pants. You should pitch this to Nike and the Hawks!


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I realize the area was steeped in Native American culture, however, I would like to see us try a logo without that influence.

So you're wanting to change the Seahawk logo all together to something entirely different? It's in totem style as is. What would you change it to?


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I realize the area was steeped in Native American culture, however, I would like to see us try a logo without that influence.

So you're wanting to change the Seahawk logo all together to something entirely different? It's in totem style as is. What would you change it to?


Maybe a whole new name, and everything. We could be like the Browns and name the team after our owner.

The Seattle Allens.

The logo would be a giant $, with Seattle written "$eattle." We could probably even incorporate Allen wrenches somehow. I am a freakin' genius.

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Truth be told I'd love a silver helmet with nothing but a small Seahawks logo on the back of it. Nothing about changing the logo but I love clean and simple uniforms.


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Truth be told I'd love a silver helmet with nothing but a small Seahawks logo on the back of it. Nothing about changing the logo but I love clean and simple uniforms.


Agreed. Though I'm deathly afraid the Hawks plan on going gaudy, with some stupid feathers on the shoulders and sleevehawks. I HATE sleevehawks.

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I'm going to have a good chuckle when the new uniforms are released and we see how marginal the difference is. This has got to be the 50th multi-page thread of people pontificating on all the crazy possibilities and posting their goofy looking project runway auditions. So much hub-hub. And in the end, I'm betting all that changes is things like striping and trim effects.

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I'm going to have a good chuckle when the new uniforms are released and we see how marginal the difference is. This has got to be the 50th multi-page thread of people pontificating on all the crazy possibilities and posting their goofy looking project runway auditions. So much hub-hub. And in the end, I'm betting all that changes is things like striping and trim effects.

That sounds pretty good actually.


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calm down everyone...

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Anyway: I suspected at the time — and have been saying ever since — that Nike “changing the NFL jersey dramatically” would mostly be about tailoring and fabrication, not about graphics. And now the NFL has confirmed that. Here’s the key passage from that article, in a quote from NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy:

Logos are controlled by teams and the NFL. That will not change. Teams have to apply to league to make changes to logos and colors. We anticipate new uniform technology (i.e., performance-driven, lighter materials). That’s what Nike’s [Charlie] Denson was referring to in his interview in 2010 regarding changes.


http://www.uni-watch.com/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... nt-coming/

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Anyone who thought that switching to Nike meant crazy insane-o Oregon style uni's clearly doesn't understand how the NFL works. It's a league that's made it's way based off history, long time fans, and identifiable team brands. It's not a university trying to entice 17 year old's to come play in it's super cool looking duds.

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Aaaand here's another article, published today, regarding this very topic. With a quote specifically about us, no less.

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The Seahawks were the first team to hold discussions with Nike. Team president Peter McLoughlin said last summer that the Seahawks will be making innovative uniform changes for 2012.


Again, could be material change, but who knows? We don't have the hundred year history to defend like some of these other hideous teams (photo-realistic Bears logo, semi-offensive Redskins logo, the Browns). We could be one of those teams willing to go further than others.

http://blogs.trb.com/sports/custom/busi ... hange.html

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Todd, a GREEN outline to the numbers would make these uni's POP !!??

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FANTASTIC! As long as we kill the current color scheme I'll be happy with anything, especially with silver helmets and pants. You should pitch this to Nike and the Hawks!


Take out the green and the Seahawk sleeve and you have a winner.

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FANTASTIC! As long as we kill the current color scheme I'll be happy with anything, especially with silver helmets and pants. You should pitch this to Nike and the Hawks!


Take out the green and the Seahawk sleeve and you have a winner.



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To supplement my previous post, here's the interview with Peter McLoughlin that articles keep quoting. He confirms that the logo will remain the same, but doesn't comment on (avoids?) the colors, and confirms that a lot of what we're calling jersey technology--materials and such--will change.

http://www.sportsradiokjr.com/player/?p ... ra=podcast

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Regarding the logo, and a switch from the Native American angle. How about a real artist coming up with a menacing looking Hawk. Shouldn't be that difficult.

Why does the logo have to look like a totem pole creature?

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I love the Seahawk logo. It's truly unique in an NFL where half the teams it seems are named after birds. It speaks to the region's heritage and history and has enough attitude to get the point across. I actually prefer the original logo for its authentic design. Why do we need to look like every other team with a bird for a mascot?


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Yeah I'd hate it if they went farther away from the original logo. Like NCHawk said, its original and has meaning.


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If our logo was largely unpopular with the fans, or just a weird/bad logo (like old Tampa/NE/Denver), I could see making a major adjustment during this redesign. But, I'd wager that our logo is pretty popular among Seahawks fans. I'm not going to make a poll or anything, but I bet 80% of fans like the helmet logo how it is, and wouldn't prefer any major change.

I freakin love uniform threads, btw. I need to set up my phone to remind me every time there's a new post in this thread.

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Seahawks Logo Design - Case Study


Influences

Although, stated as indigenous to NW coastal indian art, some elements of the design seem to be borrowed from other artistic forms. One notable area seems to be in the eye/brow region. Although, you could make a case that certain lines resemble the Kwakiutl/Haida in expression; i.e. round pupil, curved brow and socket region. Its does seem, however, that these lines more closely resemble elements of the 'Sky God' Eye of Horus. Not surprising since this is a powerful and popular symbol derived from the Egyptian hieroglyphs to represent their Falcon. Most other areas of the logo resemble more closely to the Haida form, however, loose in it's interpretation. The Osprey is linked firmly to the design due to the indigenous moniker; 'Seahawk', as well as, in image via the auricular feathers (covering the ear) with it's bold horizontal lines. The aquiline beak portion of the design is clearly Haida Eagle in form.



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Can I on record regarding our new uniforms? A little birdie on the inside gave me the scoops. I don't usually post, so I hope some of you would take this post with some seriousness. And then reference it later to hold me to it...

So I heard that our new uniforms will be a darker blue than what we currently have. Perhaps a more imposing look. As far as "design" wise, think of a mix between Boise's & Oregon's jerseys. The helmets are new too. They're that "flat" color (or is matte the term) like some of the Oregon/Oregon State helmets were. There is also an Oregon-like logo that comes over the top of the helmet. The Seahawk logo has a small change also, but not sure what it is. There is also a new (third) alternate uniform to go with our new uniforms, but not neon green like those 09 ones.

From what I was told, our uniforms will probably have the most dramatic changes out of the entire league. We were Nike's guinea pigs.

Believe me or not, it's up to you. I usually just read posts on here because I don't have anything to offer. But finally I have something to put out there. I may not post again for along time, but hopefully you all remember me as the one who was right about our new uniforms.

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Can I on record regarding our new uniforms? A little birdie on the inside gave me the scoops. I don't usually post, so I hope some of you would take this post with some seriousness. And then reference it later to hold me to it...

So I heard that our new uniforms will be a darker blue than what we currently have. Perhaps a more imposing look. As far as "design" wise, think of a mix between Boise's & Oregon's jerseys. The helmets are new too. They're that "flat" color (or is matte the term) like some of the Oregon/Oregon State helmets were. There is also an Oregon-like logo that comes over the top of the helmet. The Seahawk logo has a small change also, but not sure what it is. There is also a new (third) alternate uniform to go with our new uniforms, but not neon green like those 09 ones.

From what I was told, our uniforms will probably have the most dramatic changes out of the entire league. We were Nike's guinea pigs.

Believe me or not, it's up to you. I usually just read posts on here because I don't have anything to offer. But finally I have something to put out there. I may not post again for along time, but hopefully you all remember me as the one who was right about our new uniforms.

Hold me to this post! :)


Hold you to it? You obviously haven't been paying attention. This crowd will NAIL you to it if you're wrong... ;)

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Can I on record regarding our new uniforms? A little birdie on the inside gave me the scoops. I don't usually post, so I hope some of you would take this post with some seriousness. And then reference it later to hold me to it...

So I heard that our new uniforms will be a darker blue than what we currently have. Perhaps a more imposing look. As far as "design" wise, think of a mix between Boise's & Oregon's jerseys. The helmets are new too. They're that "flat" color (or is matte the term) like some of the Oregon/Oregon State helmets were. There is also an Oregon-like logo that comes over the top of the helmet. The Seahawk logo has a small change also, but not sure what it is. There is also a new (third) alternate uniform to go with our new uniforms, but not neon green like those 09 ones.

From what I was told, our uniforms will probably have the most dramatic changes out of the entire league. We were Nike's guinea pigs.

Believe me or not, it's up to you. I usually just read posts on here because I don't have anything to offer. But finally I have something to put out there. I may not post again for along time, but hopefully you all remember me as the one who was right about our new uniforms.

Hold me to this post! :)



thank you for posting that. sounds cool!

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and where did u hear that from?


Someone who works for the Seahawks. A friend of mine. But they'd get in trouble if I gave their name or position. Heck, it could get them in trouble for me just posting this, but it was too big of a secret to keep to myself. They said it'll be soon that we'll see the new uniforms.

I think the Pro Bowl uniforms are already Nike ones, but I could be wrong about that.


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Hold you to it? You obviously haven't been paying attention. This crowd will NAIL you to it if you're wrong... ;)


I read threads daily, but never post for the sole fact that it seems like you get crucified for a different opinion, let alone should you be found out to be wrong about something.

That said, why would I risk eternal net shame by making some bogus claim? No one has any reason to believe me. We've all heard the - "I have it on good authority" posts. I just figure this is probably the only thing I'll be "right" upon in this whole forum. Perhaps people will REMEMBER my post after the unveiling and say: "Wow, that dude with less than 30 posts really WAS right."


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So, we've seen all these new uniform pics.
History has shown that new uniforms make a big splash compared to mock up pictures.

- Nike designs so far have shown mainly silver or white pants with a navy jersey.
- We've also heard that the Seahawks want to keep an all dark home uni.
- We're hearing that we'll use less green which has seemed to fail at the alternate jersey level.
- Nike has been experimenting a ton in the past year in college football. But it's really testing for the NFL.

I think Wolfepack is onto something......or planting info intentionally.

Our new helmets will probably be something like we've never seen in the pro's or college......(Giant pissed eyes on matte finish?)
Using a midnight blue or the darker blue as the main color totally gets me pumped up!

I'm thinking the Hawks are leaking and planting posts just to get fans prepared for what is coming.
This could be a huge change....

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“We’re looking at all kinds of new designs, and new kinds of jerseys, and we’re talking about a throwback for sure,” McLoughlin added.

McLoughlin later clarified that fans should not expect a new logo or an entirely new color scheme, but that the Seahawks are still working with Nike to see “what it’s all going to look like.”


http://www.pigskinbuzz.com/new-seahawks ... ident-1268

So what I'm getting is in place of the lime green, we get the throwback. Makes perfect sense since this will be 10 years since we switched uniforms.

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I decided to put together the most NW color scheme possible.

THIS is TRUE NW style.


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Hope they don't change the logo too much - it's a classy look and doesn't really need to be changed even if the uni's are going to be darker.

For some reason I'm not expecting silver to return, more likely it'll be an 'all-navy' look. Just hope it comes out 'timeless' and not the kind of thing that in a few years needs changing again because the style is dated. Having said that, I have no issue with us mixing the uni's up every few years. We don't have a 'timeless' jersey like Green Bay, so why not mix it up? At least it'll give us something other than quarterbacks to talk about...


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Hold you to it? You obviously haven't been paying attention. This crowd will NAIL you to it if you're wrong... ;)


I read threads daily, but never post for the sole fact that it seems like you get crucified for a different opinion, let alone should you be found out to be wrong about something.

That said, why would I risk eternal net shame by making some bogus claim? No one has any reason to believe me. We've all heard the - "I have it on good authority" posts. I just figure this is probably the only thing I'll be "right" upon in this whole forum. Perhaps people will REMEMBER my post after the unveiling and say: "Wow, that dude with less than 30 posts really WAS right."


Who cares if you are wrong. Do you think I have ever been wrong on here in the over ten years I've been around?.....Hell I am standing on my last leg here as it is, so post more often and don't worry about what people say, this is the internet after all.

And regarding the logo, I merely said it would be nice to see some other renderings of a new logo from some artists out there, I didn't say change it, but at least have an open mind to view ideas.

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Totally unrelated but thought I'd mention this... Vancouver modified their logo during the last batch of NHL changes. Essentially they kept the same look, but changed the colors to match what the uniforms look like. If it's going to be an 'all-navy' look from now on, I wonder if they'll just switch the colors on the logo..

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I gotta say I am diggin those chrome looking helmets.

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English, I really hope the 'logo change' is simply a change to whatever new blue they are using, etc.

I'm also terrified of the idea of some kind of wrap around logo, especially if the Hawk eyes are on the front, making us look like some sort of Halloween hooligans.


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English, I really hope the 'logo change' is simply a change to whatever new blue they are using, etc..


Me too... even if the uni's aren't exactly 'timeless', the logo IMO certainly is. Hope they don't mess with it too much.


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