cknoxxhawk wrote:wow. people here putting hass in column with breese, farve? there's more than koolaide in that koolaide.
people who have said many times over there is no hate are correct, and I too agree with love the team, not the player. good luck telling some bullish fans that though. it's unreal.
no hate, just fact.
the SF win - first, you can thank your defense for the majority of that game win. Matt was average and serviceable that day at best ( because , really he's an average qb overall ). defense wins games and that was shown that day.
add to this it was season game 1 in our incredibly tough stadium (awesome btw) and that SF was not playing like the SF that should have been there.
enter the reverse of this with Denver game unfortunately. our qb stunk it up to high heaven, our PR compiled it with a fumble and our d was called upon in mile high 120 degree weather far too much. Denver's o is tough, but even so the d eventually wore down.
Lot's of factors but none of it points to signs Hass is honestly a top tier qb I'm afraid, and that's what some are insinuating. I sure like the guy but when it's said it's time to look into our next qb to lead a rebuilding team, I'd have to agree. other than obvious and consistent frustration with the situation (it's kind of sad I'll admit), just as the rest of the team is a rebuild , it's time it applies to the qb position. whether it's CW or not is completely unknown, but the problem is known IMO. 35 is a very real number I'm afraid.
speaking of CW, it's complete BS saying the guy cannot be a solid qb. i wont listen to a word of that nonsense. nobody here knows anything about that I'm afraid. the only thing you can do is put him in the pit and go to work in finding out. if worse after given proper time, you now know and you move on in finding it. but talk of preseason? really? too funny.
oh well, there is a lot to be excited about though withthis new team. this topic is a bit sad in comparison. like Matt but think it's time.
not really picking on you here, but this is basically what all the hass detractors (haters) have been saying through this whole thread, and for quite a while actually. The problem with this theory is that you all say that it's time for Whitehurst and Hass isn't the man to win the games, but I didn't know that the fans on a message board knew better about who was the best quarterback on the field and in practice. How is it that we haven't seen enough of Whitehurst to judge him not good enough but you have seen enough to judge him ready to play over the man the COACHES have said is the clear starterand that it's not Charlie's time yet? Funny how one side is pre judging without knowledge and the other side thinks they know better than the coaches that he is ready to play now with the same set of (or lack of) knowledge. How does that work? Bottome line is that our coaches, our players, alot of the fans and most of the NFL experts believe that Hasselbeck is the best qb on our team and that trumps the sad arguments of emotional fans after a bad game