The high draft pick misses are starting to take their toll

seabowl · Oct 12, 2014

With the "bad luck" of poor high draft choices as of recent, it it starting to really exploit our weaknesses. The wiff so far on Christine Michael is costing us that change of pace back that we so desperately need right now. Can you just imagine if he could go out there and hit the hole before the opposing D had a chance to react? In addition Paul Richardson has yet to even see the field except for a few token plays. Both of these guys seem talented enough to make a difference however have yet to even sniff a meaningful game let alone series. It is rally costing us especially with all of the personnel loses in the offseason.

King Dog · Oct 12, 2014

Yeah. Pretty bad when our WR picks can't even make the active roster. Baldwin, Kearse, Lockette, Walters? Come on.

TwistedHusky · Oct 12, 2014

The bigger issue is that essentially trading Percy for Tate looks to have been a really bad choice.

We miss Tate. Badly.

If nothing else, Russ could throw the ball up to a covered receiver and Tate would fight his way to the ball. Tate was also guaranteed to burst out of a few tackles in every game. Finally, his PR ability shortened the field, which led to more scores.

Percy looks neat running for imaginary touchdowns when someone holds (becoming the WR version of Robert Turbin) and he gets you 4 yards past the LOS when you toss him the ball 8 yards behind the LOS.

He doesn't catch the ball deep and doesn't stretch the defense. He is like a Ferrari that someone decides they want to use for offroad racing. You can do it, and it will look cool for a while but you probably aren't going to get much from it except a broken Ferrari.

He won us a SB, but when it came to Tate vs Percy - we should have picked Tate. Because he produces actual TDs in actual games when he plays for us.

Hasselbeck · Oct 12, 2014

seabowl":2klfs7m1 said:
With the "bad luck" of poor high draft choices as of recent, it it starting to really exploit our weaknesses. The wiff so far on Christine Michael is costing us that change of pace back that we so desperately need right now. Can you just imagine if he could go out there and hit the hole before the opposing D had a chance to react? In addition Paul Richardson has yet to even see the field except for a few token plays. Both of these guys seem talented enough to make a difference however have yet to even sniff a meaningful game let alone series. It is rally costing us especially with all of the personnel loses in the offseason.

You're assuming Michael would get a carry from Bevell. Maybe he's really good at the bubble screen.

As for Richardson.. Rookie WR's seldom contribute.. he'll learn how to run the bubble screen in no time.

Tech Worlds · Oct 12, 2014

I hate being correct but I said it when let Tate go that we would miss his play making ability.

We miss Tate.

mistaowen · Oct 12, 2014

TwistedHusky":139rafwk said:
The bigger issue is that essentially trading Percy for Tate looks to have been a really bad choice.

We miss Tate. Badly.

If nothing else, Russ could throw the ball up to a covered receiver and Tate would fight his way to the ball. Tate was also guaranteed to burst out of a few tackles in every game. Finally, his PR ability shortened the field, which led to more scores.

Percy looks neat running for imaginary touchdowns when someone holds (becoming the WR version of Robert Turbin) and he gets you 4 yards past the LOS when you toss him the ball 8 yards behind the LOS.

He doesn't catch the ball deep and doesn't stretch the defense. He is like a Ferrari that someone decides they want to use for offroad racing. You can do it, and it will look cool for a while but you probably aren't going to get much from it except a broken Ferrari.

He won us a SB, but when it came to Tate vs Percy - we should have picked Tate. Because he produces actual TDs in actual games when he plays for us.

The gimmicky BS stuff that we only use Percy for has got to be changed up. He has ridiculous hands, speed, and route running ability and yet he didn't get a pass his way today past the LOS. Tate would get 2-3 deep chances a game and usually would make a play. Harvin should be used in a similar manner, not just as a glorified bubble screen. Way too much talent and money for us to NEVER get him the ball deep.

razgriz737 · Oct 12, 2014

I'm not worried about Richardson. Even Tate, who everyone is missing now, took a few seasons to grow and develop. Such is standard for most WR's outside of the elite few.

cesame · Oct 12, 2014

It's shocking that Paul Richardson can't beat out Walters or Lockette

The longer Pete gets away from the college game, the worse the drafts have been

Right now Michael and Richardson are misses

cesame · Oct 12, 2014

razgriz737":32rm0hi6 said:
I'm not worried about Richardson. Even Tate, who everyone is missing now, took a few seasons to grow and develop. Such is standard for most WR's outside of the elite few.

Richardson should be able to beat out Walters or Lockette RIGHT NOW

Hasselbeck · Oct 12, 2014

cesame":1bzjvyjf said:
It's shocking that Paul Richardson can't beat out Walters or Lockette

The longer Pete gets away from the college game, the worse the drafts have been

Right now Michael and Richardson are misses

Walters is PR insurance..

Lockette is insane on special teams and improved at WR.

Richardson is 5 games into his career. Why is this "shocking" ..?

Rookie WR's take a while to get acclimated.. look at all the ones that got drafted and their production so far. Honestly Watkins and Benjamin are the only ones doing anything noteworthy.

There are real issues with the team now.. but its not because of Christine Michael and Paul Richardson.

hawk45 · Oct 12, 2014

For Percy to make plays downfield like Tate did he would actually need to be in a route that went further than the LOS. I miss downfield playmaking by a WR but before concluding that harvin can't do it how about we throw the ball to him downfield?

Tical21 · Oct 12, 2014

I don't think Tate changes a thing for us. It isn't like our passing game always clicked when he was here either.

It is time to put Michael and Richardson on the field. Not playing them and struggling mightily is unacceptable.

Abach · Oct 12, 2014

My biggest gripe is these wasted picks could have been offensive linemen. Our o-linemen are complete donkeyshit. With all of the penalties, lack of blocking to sustain a five step drop pass, and consistant running, it's too easy to point out where we ahould have drafted. /facepalm

LoneHawkFan · Oct 12, 2014

razgriz737":20s188km said:
I'm not worried about Richardson. Even Tate, who everyone is missing now, took a few seasons to grow and develop. Such is standard for most WR's outside of the elite few.

This isn't true. The NFL is riddled with first and second year WRs making big impacts with teams. If anything, the league is throwing these guys in earlier and earlier.

Thy may not be putting up huge numbers, but they're contributing. And we put Tate in as a rook. Why not out Rich in as a rook? He def won't develop as a sideline spectator.

Hasselbeck · Oct 12, 2014

Abach":33r00opu said:
My biggest gripe is these wasted picks could have been offensive linemen. Our o-linemen are complete donkeyshit. With all of the penalties, lack of blocking to sustain a five step drop pass, and consistant running, it's too easy to point out where we ahould have drafted. /facepalm

What OL do you draft instead of Paul Richardson? Christine Michael?

TwistedHusky · Oct 12, 2014

Tate doesn't change a thing??

One thing Tate did was give us a STARTING WR that could also be one of the best PR in the NFL.

Which meant we did not have to waste a roster spot on a below average WR simply because he is the only person we could trust to even do PR? (But who still essentially just gives us someone that gives us +5-10 yards over the fair catch if that )

Percy does give us an occasional 30-40 yard kickoff return but not really consistently. So knowing that Percy added meant no Tate is it worth it? No. We should have kept Tate, extended him and then released Percy when we had to pay Russell his money.

Not having Tate this year along with missing Zach Miller are probably the two biggest issues our offense faces this year save for the mindnumbing stupidity of our OC, and maybe that all the OL turned into turnstyles.

cesame · Oct 12, 2014

Hasselbeck":2c3l1d6h said:
cesame":2c3l1d6h said:

It's shocking that Paul Richardson can't beat out Walters or Lockette

The longer Pete gets away from the college game, the worse the drafts have been

Right now Michael and Richardson are misses

Click to expand...

Walters is PR insurance..

Lockette is insane on special teams and improved at WR.

Richardson is 5 games into his career. Why is this "shocking" ..?

Rookie WR's take a while to get acclimated.. look at all the ones that got drafted and their production so far. Honestly Watkins and Benjamin are the only ones doing anything noteworthy.

There are real issues with the team now.. but its not because of Christine Michael and Paul Richardson.

Walters and Lockette both almost didn't even make the team

Richardson was a 2nd round pick, yet he's getting beat out by fringe NFL players.

Hasselbeck · Oct 12, 2014

LoneHawkFan":3futk4rq said:
This isn't true. The NFL is riddled with first and second year WRs making big impacts with teams. If anything, the league is throwing these guys in earlier and earlier.

Comparing Richardson to 2nd year guys is laughable.. considering he's appeared in 4 games.

So outside of Kelvin Benjamin and Sammy Watkins - who is "making big impacts with their teams" ..? Jordan Matthews and Brandin Cooks have been ok as well, but are in much more pass happy offenses.

sam1313 · Oct 12, 2014

Abach":2v4a8fjf said:
My biggest gripe is these wasted picks could have been offensive linemen. Our o-linemen are complete donkeyshit. With all of the penalties, lack of blocking to sustain a five step drop pass, and consistant running, it's too easy to point out where we ahould have drafted. /facepalm

This. We have spent some picks on the OL (we do have 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders out there), but Okung is just horrible this year. Then again, it is hard for any OL to pass block all game - especially when they were all drafted for the run blocking ability!

Hasselbeck · Oct 12, 2014

cesame":19ku8876 said:
Walters and Lockette both almost didn't even make the team

Richardson was a 2nd round pick, yet he's getting beat out by fringe NFL players.

:34853_doh:

Again.. Walters is only on the roster because he's a punt returner. We tried to have Earl Thomas do that instead and it was an unmitigated disaster.

Lockette was a lock to make the team when Rice retired, and his special team ability alone is the reason hes on the roster.. not to mention he's improved a ton at WR.

So AGAIN.. how is it shocking that Richardson isn't getting a ton of reps? Norwood is in the same boat.. I guess hes a bum too.

The high draft pick misses are starting to take their toll

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