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Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:22 am
  • The Seahawks just cannot win with the media. After listening to Clayton and others call out Marshawn, I had to get this off my chest. One week players talk too much, the next week they, Marshawn, don't talk enough and it's a black eye or distraction for the team. Give me a break. Every sports news story today starts with his interview and people complaining. This is exactly why he hates talking to you!

    I thought he was great today and was the person he normally is and I think I can speak for others around here and say that is one of many reasons why we as fans, and his own teammates, appreciate him so much.

    Now back to being stressed out for me.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:47 am
  • Some in the media are working very hard to make the Seahawks the villains. It's pretty pathetic.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:26 am
  • Hang on a minute.

    So it's OK for Lynch to do what he wants and ignore (and disrespect) the media.

    But the media aren't allowed to do exactly the same thing by doing what they want and responding?

    If he'd just answered the questions like 105 other players yesterday nobody would be saying anything negative in the media.

    He brought this on himself and we have to accept that.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:43 am
  • It's also okay for fans to blast the media in response. Bottom line, it's all good. Nothing other than ego has been harmed.. I doubt that Marshawn gives any of it a second thought. Beyond that, I think that Deon Sanders interview probably gave a better insight into Marshawn Lynch than a mass press encounter at the podium. As a general rule, I think that forcing people to be interviewed is a bad practice. Some folks aren't programmed to do it.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:43 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Hang on a minute.

    So it's OK for Lynch to do what he wants and ignore (and disrespect) the media.

    But the media aren't allowed to do exactly the same thing by doing what they want and responding?

    If he'd just answered the questions like 105 other players yesterday nobody would be saying anything negative in the media.

    He brought this on himself and we have to accept that.


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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:06 am
  • I listened to Marshawn's "6-minute" interview and I thought he was very open and honest with who he was. The braying idiots in the media who are calling him out can get bent. I really have no time for them.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:10 am
  • I think it's absolutely ridiculous the NFL expects to put everyone under the microscope like that in front of the entire world. There's a lot of people who just hate that kind of thing.

    I know personally in school going up in front of the class to give a presentation was the worst thing imaginable. Even if I nail the debate and defeat the "genius" honor student who was in special advanced classes etc, etc. it doesn't make it worth my while. I don't study like the honor student, I don't care about school like the honor student, frankly I don't give a damn about the whole system.

    It doesn't matter if I win or lose in my public presentations, I just don't give a damn. All I wanna do is play the game. I know I can do everything to win, but do I really need to jump through hoops in these artificial systems to prove myself to some imaginary standard?

    I think these required media interviews are EXACTLY like all the bull crap people have to put up with in modern society. A lot of these procedures are completely worthless, a waste of time, it's just artificial nonsense.

    I think a very gifted and intelligent person who doesn't give a damn about school and hates doing presentations in front of the class is a pretty good equivalent to Marshawn Lynch in the NFL. He is an amazing player, why force him to do this stuff he doesn't care one slight bit about. It's a waste of time and insulting that such a high emphasis is put on this nonsense.

    Our society has gone down the drain in many ways, the NFL forcing players to talk to the media is just one good example.

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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:10 am
  • pmedic920 wrote:
    theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Hang on a minute.

    So it's OK for Lynch to do what he wants and ignore (and disrespect) the media.

    But the media aren't allowed to do exactly the same thing by doing what they want and responding?

    If he'd just answered the questions like 105 other players yesterday nobody would be saying anything negative in the media.

    He brought this on himself and we have to accept that.


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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:40 am
  • Personally I don't care, but the media does have a tendency to take things out of context and I can see why Lynch doesn't talk to 'em.

    I just wish we did get a bit more Beast interviews, dudes the best interview on the team IMO.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:47 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Rob's a journo. He will always side with the media, even over players from his favorite team.


    It's pretty sad and pathetic that journalists even have a unified "side," a side that all bands together like the mafia to try to bully their way into getting what they want.

    I still remember when Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy went off on a media member for writing an unprofessional article about one of his players, something that by all rights looked like a noble act, and the media immediately goes to work at defaming him as the unprofessional one, etc.

    They're a bunch of jackals and very few operate with any sense of integrity. It's lovely that anyone would want to defend such a group.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:47 am
  • "LEAVE MARSHAWN ALONE!!" HE LOVES HIS SKITTLES!! ALL YOU PEOPLE WANT IS MORE, MORE MORE, MORE, MORE!!"

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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:50 am
  • Don't expect the NFL to fine Lynch for the day's adventure.

    "Players are required to participate and he participated," NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told Around The League in an email.


    The Pro Football Writers of America, however, released a statement saying it was "extremely disappointed" with Lynch's behavior during Media Day.

    "Several of our long-standing and high profile members were appalled by Mr. Lynch's conduct and refusal to answer any questions," the statement read, per ProFootballTalk.


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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:57 am
  • Lynch doesn't owe the media a freaking thing. He has already given them plenty to talk about with actions on the field. They have been milking skittles, beastmode and then beastquake for years now.

    It's hard to even take these people serious anymore with the canned questions, the questions like "Hey coach is this a must win game?" and top all that off with at least one soft light interview showing the softer side of a player, his struggles growing up, the adult that helped make it all happen with canned football questions like "how are you going to feel if you break some random record" intertwined.

    I would much rather have all the Seahawks in NY studying film today instead of putting up with the media.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:59 am
  • Journalists, even our own Rob, are extremely threatened by guys like Marshawn. Beat reporters exist on quotes and rumors. People who don't talk contribute to neither. They would rather have 45 minutes of cliche crap than nothing. Lets be totally honest, sports reporters exist on the same level as entertainment reporters and a small step above papparazzi. Journalistic integrity in the sports world died a long time ago.

    However, after the rancor from the media after last weeks Sherman debacle, no way was Lynch going to be open. And when that female reporter opened yesterday by shoving a mike in his face and yelling in his face that he has to answer their questions now, he has no choice, you could see him get immediately pissed. I would too. Marshawn is nobodies organ grinder monkey. When the other reporter makes a big deal of announcing immediately that it took less than 6 minutes to shut Marshawn up, he is full of satisfaction, you can see it in his weasley face.

    Let's add a little more to that. When an ex jock like Sanders who never studied journalism rides his slick tongue and locker room cred among players to get access a degreed journalist never could, it pisses them off. They are all screaming questions like little baby birds hoping momma bird shoves a little bit of worm down THEIR throats by answering THEIR question from the din of reporters, and Prime walks where he wants, to who he wants, asks what he wants like some father figure, and the players give him instant attention. You could see it on their faces, they hate it. 2 hours of jockeying for position, yelling questions, hoping like hell they are the guy or gal who gets the Jeremy Stevens quote that drives convo for days, and Sanders destroys them with a minute 40 of really inane questions that Lynch answers straight Oakland.

    And so, CBS, ESPN, FOX, and Yahoo Sports all run negative stories about Lynch because of professional jealousy between brands and the threat he poses to their parasitic job status. While an untrained ex jock wins the day by asking one real question about the Broncos thinking they can win if they stop Lynch.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:06 am
  • MidwestHawker wrote:It's pretty sad and pathetic that journalists even have a unified "side," a side that all bands together like the mafia to try to bully their way into getting what they want.

    They're a bunch of jackals and very few operate with any sense of integrity. It's lovely that anyone would want to defend such a group.


    Look up the word mafia in the dictionary. I don't recall John Clayton having someone "silenced" for refusing to do an interview.

    99% of journo's are good, honest, hard working individuals just trying to earn a living like anyone else. And they don't deserve to be treated like crap, whether they're talking to Lynch, Kaepernick or any other multi millionaire who doesn't feel like answering basic questions about a football game.

    Lynch can do what he wants for all I care. If he doesn't want to talk to the media, that's his choice and decision.

    But he and therefore we have to respect that the media have every right to call him out as a consequence.

    If he didn't want this noise, he should've just answered the questions like the other 100+ players at media day.

    Scottemojo wrote:Journalists, even our own Rob, are extremely threatened by guys like Marshawn.


    Not threatened at all Scotte. The ones who don't want to talk, their choice. No skin off my nose.

    What I don't get is everyone calling out the media for criticising anyone who decides to act like Lynch did yesterday.

    It's as much their right to do that as it is for Lynch to ignore honest, humble questions.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:14 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Look up the word mafia in the dictionary. I don't recall John Clayton having someone "silenced" for refusing to do an interview.


    ...your reply is to try to prove that they don't meet the literal definition of mafia? Okay, point conceded since it was obvious hyperbole.

    The analogy is still correct though. The media plays fast and loose with the reputations of people they cover. They won't have people "silenced," but they will have them defamed, and all under the strong protections of the First Amendment and the judicial standard for defamation for public figures that basically makes it functionally impossible for a journalist to ever get their comeuppance for defaming a public figure.

    Unfortunately, a public that either doesn't have time to research things for themselves, or simply doesn't care to, will largely lap up whatever the media gives them.

    You imply that Marshawn treated the media like crap, when in fact the reaction across sports radio in Seattle yesterday was "LOL, well that's just Marshawn, he's never really been rude when approached for an interview." If he actually acted badly toward them then that would be a different story and my reaction may be entirely different. I realize the likely counter-argument is that cutting his appearance short IS acting badly, a reaction that can only come from a sense of entitlement that I don't agree with.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:16 am
  • 99% of journo's are good, honest, hard working individuals just trying to earn a living like anyone else. And they don't deserve to be treated like crap, whether they're talking to Lynch, Kaepernick or any other multi millionaire who doesn't feel like answering basic questions about a football game.


    I call BS on this.

    30 years ago maybe before the Reagan law was passed concerning journalism and that you had to be factual, now everythng is a editorial and sensationalism, Journalist ? how many beat the turf to find a story? Many just Google and scrape up things that others do and spin their own thoughts on it, it's not fact or even accurate. How many times have we seen stuff reported about the Seahawks that is so outlandish and opinionated that it should have been flushed rather then taken up bandwidth or ink.

    How far would these tactics used today go with Larry Csonka, Jim Brown or John Riggens, none were really media freindly. All had quirky personalities.
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:27 am
  • chris98251 wrote:
    99% of journo's are good, honest, hard working individuals just trying to earn a living like anyone else. And they don't deserve to be treated like crap, whether they're talking to Lynch, Kaepernick or any other multi millionaire who doesn't feel like answering basic questions about a football game.


    I call BS on this.

    30 years ago maybe before the Reagan law was passed concerning journalism and that you had to be factual, now everythng is a editorial and sensationalism, Journalist ? how many beat the turf to find a story? Many just Google and scrape up things that others do and spin their own thoughts on it, it's not fact or even accurate. How many times have we seen stuff reported about the Seahawks that is so outlandish and opinionated that it should have been flushed rather then taken up bandwidth or ink.

    How far would these tactics used today go with Larry Csonka, Jim Brown or John Riggens, none were really media freindly. All had quirky personalities.


    Call BS then.

    And then consider those who cover this team week in and week out.

    Those who used to, like Sando, Clare Farnsworth and Eric Williams.

    And the equivalent beat writers all around the country.

    You'll soon realise for every 'sensationalist' journalist out there who shouts the loudest, there's 100's if not 1000's of good, decent, honest people just trying to give fans a link to their team and earn a living.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:30 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:But he and therefore we have to respect that the media have every right to call him out as a consequence.


    Why? Why does he have to answer their questions or face attacks? He chooses to be silent, so they have the right to try and destroy his image?

    Utter BS
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:33 am
  • there are a very few talented sports reporters. I think as a group they have become chippy with the knowledge that a good bit of sports fans could do their job. We have several posters on this board alone who regularly contribute entertaining and informative pieces better than you would find in most publications. I'd say as a sports "personality" that John Clayton is probably a bit worried. He is no more talented than Samantha Ponder, Melissa Stark, or Erin Andrews and no where near as attractive to look at.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:33 am
  • Marshawn is a big boy playing in the Super Bowl with a huge contract and a new Lamborghini. He knew he'd take a little heat for this, I'm sure he's not losing any sleep over it.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:35 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    99% of journo's are good, honest, hard working individuals just trying to earn a living like anyone else. And they don't deserve to be treated like crap, whether they're talking to Lynch, Kaepernick or any other multi millionaire who doesn't feel like answering basic questions about a football game.


    I call BS on this.

    30 years ago maybe before the Reagan law was passed concerning journalism and that you had to be factual, now everythng is a editorial and sensationalism, Journalist ? how many beat the turf to find a story? Many just Google and scrape up things that others do and spin their own thoughts on it, it's not fact or even accurate. How many times have we seen stuff reported about the Seahawks that is so outlandish and opinionated that it should have been flushed rather then taken up bandwidth or ink.

    How far would these tactics used today go with Larry Csonka, Jim Brown or John Riggens, none were really media freindly. All had quirky personalities.


    Call BS then.

    And then consider those who cover this team week in and week out.

    Those who used to, like Sando, Clare Farnsworth and Eric Williams.

    And the equivalent beat writers all around the country.

    You'll soon realise for every 'sensationalist' journalist out there who shouts the loudest, there's 100's if not 1000's of good, decent, honest people just trying to give fans a link to their team and earn a living.


    I hope you realize that it only takes one slimeball journalist who doesn't check his (or her) facts (or doesn't care) and plays fast and loose with facts to defame someone's repuation (or doesn't pay attention at all) to completely ruin it for all other journalists, right? How is a non-journalist supposed to be able to tell the difference?

    Frankly if it were me, I wouldn't say a damn thing and I'd eat the fines. If you don't say anything, you can't be misconstrued. Remember Silver and his story on Browner? I do too.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:37 am
  • The stripper question at Sherm was an attempt to get him to spout something stupid


    They will continue to push Beast any chance they get trying to upset him and cause controversy. I hope he eats one of them.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:37 am
  • Missing_Clink wrote:Marshawn is a big boy playing in the Super Bowl with a huge contract and a new Lamborghini. He knew he'd take a little heat for this, I'm sure he's not losing any sleep over it.


    Near as I can tell, the only people losing sleep over this are the mainstream journalists. The ex-football players seem to completely understand, and the talking heads (and fans!) actually love what Lynch did and what Lynch said both overall and especially is interview with Dieon Sanders.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:41 am
  • So sorry Rob, why does the media get a 'right' to call Marshawn out if he doesn't wish to speak to them? The media and apparently you believes they have some entitlement to an unfettered access to anyone and they must suffer abuse from them if that person refuses to to be available. I disagree, with your premis, Lynch is free to do whatever he wishes as long as he complies with the rules set by his employer. After that he should be able to be left alone and media attack upon him is parasitic, besetting, and cowardly.

    He attended the required Media Day circus where he was physically uncomfortable and spoke his few words as he was forced to do on pain of being fined $100,000. He is a man of few words where actions speak louder to him than words. I suspect Marshawn is a person who suffers from stage fright and prefers to avoid all media. We've seen how he even avoids Mike Rob. Should he be forced to speak to the media when he doesn't wish to do?

    The whole thing is hype anyway, now the hype on Marshawn is he is the strong silent type. Lynch has been savaged by the media in the past and is rightfully wary.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:42 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Not threatened at all Scotte. The ones who don't want to talk, their choice. No skin off my nose.

    What I don't get is everyone calling out the media for criticising anyone who decides to act like Lynch did yesterday.

    It's as much their right to do that as it is for Lynch to ignore honest, humble questions.


    Wrong.
    The whole mess is because on media day, the player supposedly has no choice about talking. Am I right?

    And Lynch didn't decide to act a certain way yesterday that was different than before, he just maintained the status quo. And if you have watched the first 6 minutes he did yesterday, there is no way you can call those questions honest and humble. At least three of those parasites are trying to antagonize the guy. The fact that he didn't comply was definitely skin off their nose. And you can try and take all the high ground you want on this, if you have seen the first 20 seconds yesterday and still think Lynch was obligated to play nice, you are taking the journalistic access side of things personally.

    Besides, media day is a farce. It's half vultures on a carcass and half attempted gang bang, with the NFL giving press credentials to every moron under the sun. It is about as related to actual journalism as a traffic jam is to Formula 1.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:57 am
  • It's all a circus and when the clowns come out to blow their horns and any of the performers scoff at their shameless antics the ringmaster gets riled and tries to feed them to the lions.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:00 am
  • Mike Rob had his back in the interview they did together. You really can see that Beast does not like anything to do with it, I can't say that I blame him either. All of them ask the same things.
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:05 am
  • Largent80 wrote:Mike Rob had his back in the interview they did together. You really can see that Beast does not like anything to do with it, I can't say that I blame him either. All of them ask the same things.


    Just watched that on NFL network. It was clearly obvious that he was extremely uncomfortable doing interviews. Social anxiety is a real thing that I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he could suffer from. I was uncomfortable watching him. Thanks to MRob for saving the day. These guys really do have each others backs.
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Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:10 am
  • oldhawkfan wrote:
    Largent80 wrote:Mike Rob had his back in the interview they did together. You really can see that Beast does not like anything to do with it, I can't say that I blame him either. All of them ask the same things.


    Just watched that on NFL network. It was clearly obvious that he was extremely uncomfortable doing interviews. Social anxiety is a real thing that I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he could suffer from. I was uncomfortable watching him. Thanks to MRob for saving the day. These guys really do have each others backs.


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Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:11 am
  • oldhawkfan wrote:
    Largent80 wrote:Mike Rob had his back in the interview they did together. You really can see that Beast does not like anything to do with it, I can't say that I blame him either. All of them ask the same things.


    Just watched that on NFL network. It was clearly obvious that he was extremely uncomfortable doing interviews. Social anxiety is a real thing that I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he could suffer from. I was uncomfortable watching him. Thanks to MRob for saving the day. These guys really do have each others backs.

    More great journalistic integrity.

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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:22 am
  • Just because you're a star baller doesn't mean you're going to be comfortable in public speaking.

    Beastmode was terribly uncomfortable, so did you like putting him in the most uncomfortable position? Get what you wanted?

    This just pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:23 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    99% of journo's are good, honest, hard working individuals just trying to earn a living like anyone else. And they don't deserve to be treated like crap, whether they're talking to Lynch, Kaepernick or any other multi millionaire who doesn't feel like answering basic questions about a football game.


    I call BS on this.

    30 years ago maybe before the Reagan law was passed concerning journalism and that you had to be factual, now everythng is a editorial and sensationalism, Journalist ? how many beat the turf to find a story? Many just Google and scrape up things that others do and spin their own thoughts on it, it's not fact or even accurate. How many times have we seen stuff reported about the Seahawks that is so outlandish and opinionated that it should have been flushed rather then taken up bandwidth or ink.

    How far would these tactics used today go with Larry Csonka, Jim Brown or John Riggens, none were really media freindly. All had quirky personalities.


    Call BS then.

    And then consider those who cover this team week in and week out.

    Those who used to, like Sando, Clare Farnsworth and Eric Williams.

    And the equivalent beat writers all around the country.

    You'll soon realise for every 'sensationalist' journalist out there who shouts the loudest, there's 100's if not 1000's of good, decent, honest people just trying to give fans a link to their team and earn a living.


    I can confirm all of this. He speaks the truth.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:28 am
  • Media: Richard Sherman... Talks way to much. Marshawn Lynch... doesn't talk enough. Athletes don't say anything interesting. Athletes need to shut up.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:30 am
  • The problem is that FANS DON'T CARE, Rob. I don't care about some player giving canned cliche responses. Most people don't.

    If you (not you specifically) actually have some reasonable analysis based on meticulous research to share as a journo, good for you. If you actually work your ass off to develop a relationship with a player like Mike "Can't break a story right but can make friends with players" Silver did with Lynch (both Cal boys), good for you. Otherwise, piss off.

    No, the media doesn't really have a "right" to answer back by whining because the media - sports media specifically - is about 99% worthless anyway. You're not doing God's work by asking a player how he feels about the biggest game of his life. Sports media types need to get over themselves. We need less lazy beat reporters and pseudo-analytical hacks and more people that actually have to work at their jobs by doing research, analysis, or crafting a relationship with the players that they want to cover.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:34 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Hang on a minute.

    So it's OK for Lynch to do what he wants and ignore (and disrespect) the media.

    But the media aren't allowed to do exactly the same thing by doing what they want and responding?

    If he'd just answered the questions like 105 other players yesterday nobody would be saying anything negative in the media.

    He brought this on himself and we have to accept that.


    What if answering like the other 105 players is significantly harder for him than those players?


    This has nothing to do with disrespecting and ignoring the media. This has to do with the social anxiety some of us feel when the focus is on us. I couldn't give speeches in high school and college because of it and being interviewed on Super Bowl Media Day is pretty much my worst nightmare.

    He attended and he gave it his best effort. To me that should be enough. Instead you have jerks like Ben Mahler(not Softy but same last name) from Fox Sports Radio who made a show out of it. He said that Marshawn "blamed his parents" because Marshawn said he was raised not to crave the spotlight. He said this was Marshawn's job and not doing this was akin to a policeman not doing paperwork which are not even remotely the same thing. He got his show out of it so I am sure he was happy.

    Rob, I am well aware that this won't change your mind because I have yet to ever see you change your position on something, but just think about this for a second before you respond. His social anxiety about giving interviews is a real thing. He tried his best and and fulfilled his obligation to the NFL enough that they said they wouldn't fine him. Shouldn't that be enough?
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:47 am
  • TaterHawk wrote:The stripper question at Sherm was an attempt to get him to spout something stupid


    They will continue to push Beast any chance they get trying to upset him and cause controversy. I hope he eats one of them.
    Go Beast..stay in your lane dog.


    Yep. Just look at what happened to Chris Culliver last year when they asked him about gays in the NFL. No one knew he would say what he said. The media just throws crap at the wall until something sticks.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:49 am
  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Hang on a minute.

    So it's OK for Lynch to do what he wants and ignore (and disrespect) the media.

    But the media aren't allowed to do exactly the same thing by doing what they want and responding?

    If he'd just answered the questions like 105 other players yesterday nobody would be saying anything negative in the media.

    He brought this on himself and we have to accept that.



    He spoke for 10 minutes total, he did his duty, there are tons of players that didnt even get to talk.







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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:51 am
  • Love this quote by Puckett

    "@JasonPuckettKJR: Hey, media, we are NOT that important. Get over it. Who cares if they talk. Appreciate what a cool job we have and get off the bitter bus."

    You say why can't he talk like the other "108“ players? Why cant you bother the other 108 players with ridiculous questions like "Is this a must-win game" "how are you feeling"? Like is Marshawn some wealth of knowledge and quotes that your job depends on?
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:54 am
  • Teqneek wrote:He spoke for 10 minutes total, he did his duty, there are tons of players that didnt even get to talk.

    Good bye Seahawks.net


    Bye.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:00 am
  • I'm torn on this....

    I really think highly of BeastMode and hate that he's being put through this. He's 100% willing to give up any financial gain to "promoting the BeastMode brand." However, I've laughed for years about moviestars complaining about paparazzi. I've always held that they chose the career knowing their potential popularity would infringe on their personal privacies.

    I know football players aren't as stalked as some Hollywood celebs, but they have to take the good with the bad too, don't they? I hate watching him go through this. It's painful as a 12. I'm glad he did what he did: showed up for as long as he could stand. I'm glad the team (Turb and MRob) were there to help. I'm glad he left too. Everyone can say they fulfilled their commitments. And, eventhough media isn't as important a commitment as conditioning, practicing, studying, team membership..., it is a commitment and now it's fulfilled.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:00 am
  • I don't really have a problem with Lynch not wanting to talk or the NFL wanting him to talk. I do think the media looks pretty pathetic and bitter on this issue.

    But I think its important to note that Lynch does what he does and is a multi millionaire for it because pro football is so unbelievably popular and generates so much money. Will that change solely on whether or not he talks? Of course not, he's just 1 guy. But the industry of pro football is built on media exposure, and that does include players being visible in the media. That's why players are required to talk by the NFL. So I don't really have a problem if an NFL player making big money who knows the rules and willingly breaks them gets a big fine. There is a reasonable expectation that he will work within the system of his employer. In return, his employer has made him a very rich man.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:05 am
  • OK...

    ...as a vet of watching Colin Kaepernick get interviewed and then having to defend the way he answers questions...

    ...peeps need to lay off Marshawn. Thats who he is. That was Marshawn. I've been a fan of his since he was at Cal. He does some football camps down here in the offseason with Josh Johnson and when they interview him here he's a bit better than that but he's also one on one with an interviewer and not surrounded by people asking him questions. I remember last year on CSN Bay Area he was asked about the rivalry between SF and Seattle and he said essentially, "I don't know but let me tell you about this time I beat Josh (Johnson) at our camp". It's just who he is.

    That's just way outside his comfort zone.

    Deion understood this. That was why he interviewed him the way he did. Up close. One on one. Deion spent alot of time with these guys and he understands how some of them are socially awkward in that setting. Crab is awkward as well and chooses not to do interviews most of the time as well. Some guys just aren't comfortable in front of cameras unless they have a football in thier hand.

    Bottom line, people need to back off Marshawn. The reaction this is getting only justifies precisely why he doesn't like to be interviewed to begin with. People hear the way he speaks and immediately make judgements about him. He's a product of where he came from and has made something of himself.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:12 am
  • Marvin49 wrote: The reaction this is getting only justifies precisely why he doesn't like to be interviewed to begin with.


    That doesn't make much sense, considering the reaction is all based upon that decision not to be interviewed. The reaction is much greater than anything following up from the players who've actually gone through the lengthy interview process.

    You only have to Youtube/google search Marshawn Lynch to find plenty of interviews he's done, some recently.

    Like Kaepernick, he's selective. He's awkward when he wants to be. And I can see why some members of the media -- in some cases those just trying to put food on the table -- get irritated and then react the way they have as a consequence.

    But hey, I've said already I appreciate Marshawn can do what he wants. If he doesn't want to talk, that's his decision. But I'm not sure we can complain about the media's reaction, not to the tune of three (at least) threads on the main forum all slamming the press for just doing what they also have a right to do.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:12 am
  • Missing_Clink wrote: But the industry of pro football is built on media exposure, and that does include players being visible in the media.


    It's built on the game of football, first and foremost. Obviously, the media outlets that show the games help grow exposure to the game of football, but it's not like those outlets aren't getting anything out of this arrangement (see ESPN's ridiculous carrier rates per subscriber for one example).

    When it comes to actually profiling an athlete, the best reporters have always been the ones that built special relationships with the athletes they covered. What happens now is that these reporters get easy access and ask stupid questions; then, any answer that deviates from the norm is blown up and written about ad nauseam.

    We've seen Lynch do closer-profile stuff. He did an article with Mike Silver this week that was in-depth - and Silver actually had to work for it by building a relationship with Lynch. This Media Day crap is the exact opposite of that; it's athletes served up on a silver platter for hack journos to throw stupid questions at until they get an answer they can harp on.

    Plus, some guys just aren't made for this media stuff, have anxiety issues (remember how the media tortured poor Ricky Williams?), or just have trust issues. No, the sports media does not have the right to further pillory these folks without coming off as even more worthless than they usually are.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:15 am
  • The media is timing Lynch's attendance down to the second. Effing disgusting.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:21 am
  • 253hawk wrote:The media is timing Lynch's attendance down to the second. Effing disgusting.


    It's become a spectacle, and something real dumb.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:23 am
  • 253hawk wrote:The media is timing Lynch's attendance down to the second. Effing disgusting.

    The fact that they are keeping score on the length of the interviews is just evidence of the fact that some of them are trying to win some imaginary war with him.

    If Lynch is the best player on the field, watch him get jobbed on the MVP by the people who vote on it. And he won't care, because he will have won a game. A real game, not an imaginary one.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:34 am
  • All of this nonsense just throws gas on the fire that is...Beast Mode. Can't wait for the game.
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Re: Media, leave Marshawn alone
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:35 am
  • Albert Breer has been trying to make Marshawn look bad since Media day started. It's pretty much as simple as this:
    -Marshawn supporters, teammates, coaches, friends & family are all okay with it
    - Networks that get interviews are okay with it.
    - Networks and media that don't get the interview have their feelings hurt and thus make a negative story out of him.
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