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Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:27 am
  • I like the guy but honestly if he is asking for too much I'm all for passing up on him and letting him walk...Percy can do all the things he does in my opinion and I like Baldwin more as a WR. Not knocking on Tate but I don't like his inconsistency. Don't get me wrong he has playmaking abilities but he needs to bring his A game every week. Sometimes I forget he is even out there playing. IMO the guy will tear it up in the slot if he played for Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck or Phillip Rivers but in our style of offense I just don't see him doing much especially if Bevell stays...

    I like Percy, Baldwin, & if we draft another WR in the 1st or 2nd that'll be great....

    Waiting for people to bash me for making this thread and my opinions on Tate...
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:28 am
  • Hope so.... And yep god forbid you have an opinion on this site...
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:32 am
  • We have too I think.

    kearse is a nice story but he hasn't made the most of his chances. Some great plays mixed into a disappearing act.

    its obvious harvin is a huge weapon but can't be counted on for 16 games.

    Baldwin is great but what happens when he's your one and only receiving threat and the d takes him away?

    rice likely won't be back without a major pay cut.

    Tate needs to be resigned unless we think there is a Bette fit in FA.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:39 am
  • hawker84 wrote:Hope so.... And yep god forbid you have an opinion on this site...



    So if he ask for 6-7 million and it might hurt the cap and us having money to resign key players you're okay with it..?
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:40 am
  • 5-6 mil...yes. More...nope.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:43 am
  • Not even a question.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:46 am
  • Not sure what the numbers look like but seems like hitting on a wr in the draft is one of the biggest crap shoots next to QB for any guys outside the top 10.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:49 am
  • percy can do everything Tate can do except play a full game
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:18 am
  • dopeboy206 wrote:
    hawker84 wrote:Hope so.... And yep god forbid you have an opinion on this site...



    So if he ask for 6-7 million and it might hurt the cap and us having money to resign key players you're okay with it..?


    I hope they can work something out. I like him on this team and he wants to be here.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:21 am
  • i dont think its his fault for not being more active during plays. we all know bevells play calling
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:29 am
  • I say yes. If there was an impact explosive WR free agent this offseason then maybe I would say we should use the $ to get that guy but there simply isn't. It's a bad FA class this year. The top FA on the market is probably Eric Decker or Hakeem Nicks. Would you want those guys over Tate for this squad? Maybe Decker, but certainly not Hicks. Tate to me has more potential explosive plays in him than Decker so I'm gonna say keep him.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:34 am
  • dopeboy206 wrote:I like the guy but honestly if he is asking for too much I'm all for passing up on him and letting him walk...Percy can do all the things he does in my opinion and I like Baldwin more as a WR. Not knocking on Tate but I don't like his inconsistency. Don't get me wrong he has playmaking abilities but he needs to bring his A game every week. Sometimes I forget he is even out there playing. IMO the guy will tear it up in the slot if he played for Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck or Phillip Rivers but in our style of offense I just don't see him doing much especially if Bevell stays...

    I like Percy, Baldwin, & if we draft another WR in the 1st or 2nd that'll be great....

    Waiting for people to bash me for making this thread and my opinions on Tate...


    I'm not sure why, but people seem to have the misconception that Harvin and Tate play the same position. They do not. If anything Harvin is more suited to Baldwin's position in the receiver depth. I'm not advocating getting rid of Baldwin. I absolutely love Baldwin, just saying that Harvin doesn't replace Tate, so it's not as simple as "I think Harvin is better than Tate (or the other way around).

    As for whether we re-sign Tate....it's 4 days until the NFC Championship game. I really am not even CLOSE to ready to think about what we do in the offseason. I think I'll get back to enjoying the ride for as long as it lasts.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:35 am
  • Keep Tate if at all possible. Hell, keep everybody if at all possible.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:59 am
  • It depends on what kind of money he demands. If he want's #1 WR money then I say let him walk. He is a good #2 WR at best and a good punt returner.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:00 am
  • I like Tate, and I really like his ability to stay healthy. But his propensity to just disappear in games is maddening. There are some games where he is truly invisible. If there is a quality 6'3"+ WR on the market who would command the same money, I'd rather go that route. We really need some size in the WR group. There is a yearly amount I'd lke to see Tate back at...probably anything under $5 mil per season. But I'm thinking some offensively starved team like the Jets are going to hugely overpay for Tate anyway, and the Hawks will lose him.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:08 am
  • Absolutely we resign Tate. His stats are average for the top WR's in the league, so we should be able to resign him for the 5 million per year range...........which is doable.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:19 am
  • Tate, yes.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:33 am
  • I vote yes. He has the all the makings of being a decent receiver. Not afraid to go over the middle and can make those catches in traffic. Also a decent blocker... reminds me of a young Heinz Ward.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:33 am
  • Nope, there are more things that he can't do than things that he can. And he is too redundant on this team. I'd rather see what player 'X' can do to bring us a new life at the position. Let's face it, Golden is an out-of-place slot receiver that won't ever play slot for this team, and just can't get open outside and is virtually a non-factor down the field.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:35 am
  • themunn wrote:percy can do everything Tate can do except play a full game

    Ahhhh haha. Nice.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:39 am
  • Hold on, Let me check what popular opinion is on here and tell you if your wrong.

    But serious...money aside, I'd keep tate over Baldwin. Tate has a more unique skill set and arguably elite yac ability. Look Back at Petes track record all the way back at usc, he's very good at developing and finding talent at wr. If both of them walked I wouldn't lose any sleep, assuming we spend Draft Capitol sprucing it up this year. I just don't think (wisely so) P&j have focused on wr much during this rebuilding process, this could be the year.

    I do hope we keep tate and hope if doesn't command much money. I think Baldwin is overrated on here and he disappear just as much as Tate or comparably at least.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:17 am
  • I would say if they can re-sign Tate for top number 2 WR money then I'm all for it, but he is NOT a true #1. I say this not because of his size or speed, but for the fact for every big game he has (think Rams game three weeks ago), he follows it up with a disappearing act (Saints game) or 3-5 straight games of average #2 WR like games (40-80 yards per game and maybe 2-3 TD's in that span).

    I do LIKE Tate and I hope he can be re-signed for a decent price, but I would'nt break the bank for the guy. I think keeping Baldwin and Kearse and having a healthy Percy will be fine. I also have to believe that even if Tate is brought back the team will draft a WR in the first three rounds (even if they have to move back into the 3rd round for someone they like this year). TE and WR are needs in this next offseason and they will make some moves to get taller guys for Wilson to throw to.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:50 am
  • I really think we'd be foolish not to sign Tate if he can be had in the $4-5/year range. If Wes Welker signed a 2 year - $12 million deal (so he's making 6/year) in March, I don't see Tate, who is also a #2 WR, getting paid more than that or commanding that much in FA. Wes Welker was a pretty big name and all he got was 6/year.

    Considering the Seahawks appear to be contenders for a couple years and what other #2 WRs have gotten in FA lately, I think we see a little bit of a discount. $4 million/year sounds just about right.

    Comparing him to Angry Doug Baldwin, I don't see Dougie asking for any more than what Tate will get. I think Tate has a more unique skill set, great at jump balls, great at YAC, adds to the return game and he should be the priority when it comes to resigning WRs. ADB should command a little less than Tate, even with his circus catches and clutch pass catching ability he has provided us with the last year. We'll end up having a decent WR corps (obviously we need to draft a #1 or Rice needs a big pay cut) for the price. I'm not sure what other teams get by with less expensive WRs and how they compare to ours.

    If we can get a big young guy in the draft in the top three rounds that can be a deep/jump ball threat, that will absolutely take the top off of defenses. With someone like that it will open up more room for Percy, Tate and ADB.

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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:55 am
  • Mr.Hawkbrah wrote:Hold on, Let me check what popular opinion is on here and tell you if your wrong.

    But serious...money aside, I'd keep tate over Baldwin. Tate has a more unique skill set and arguably elite yac ability. Look Back at Petes track record all the way back at usc, he's very good at developing and finding talent at wr. If both of them walked I wouldn't lose any sleep, assuming we spend Draft Capitol sprucing it up this year. I just don't think (wisely so) P&j have focused on wr much during this rebuilding process, this could be the year.

    I do hope we keep tate and hope if doesn't command much money. I think Baldwin is overrated on here and he disappear just as much as Tate or comparably at least.


    I think we could resign Baldwin for 2-3 million a year.

    Let's be honest, we all love Doug but how much demand do you think there is for a smallish 50 reception a year receiver on the free agent market? Doug might be smarter than most of them, but the fact remains he's a #3 receiver on THIS team, which means he's more of a #4 on other teams. So I'm not worried about resigning both Tate and Baldwin, I think you could resign both for 7 million a year, or less.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:56 am
  • RCATES wrote:It depends on what kind of money he demands. If he want's #1 WR money then I say let him walk. He is a good #2 WR at best and a good punt returner.

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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:58 am
  • Tate will likely take less money to stay here in Seattle. That will become more realistic if the team wins the Superb Owl.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:01 am
  • Gotta sign him. He'll get 5.5-6.5m in this offseason.

    He fits our philosophy and our toughness model going forward. He just led the league in yardage after contact by a WR and he doesn't catch a ton of passes.

    He's beastmode in a WR. He's a solid #2 WR and he'll get paid as such.

    Think about the toughness on this offense. Lynch, Tate and arguably Harvin (he's been very tough to tackle in the past, loves contact). Gotta be disheartening to defenses to go up against that offense that won't go down and relishes the contact.

    We'll draft a big #1 WR, Tate as our #2 and Harvin as our #3 or slot receiver and that's a pretty imposing offense imo especially considering we're a run first offense. Play action get really interesting with that line up.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:12 am
  • In a word .. YES
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:26 am
  • Gotta keep Tate.. He is the Golden one.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:15 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Mr.Hawkbrah wrote:Hold on, Let me check what popular opinion is on here and tell you if your wrong.

    But serious...money aside, I'd keep tate over Baldwin. Tate has a more unique skill set and arguably elite yac ability. Look Back at Petes track record all the way back at usc, he's very good at developing and finding talent at wr. If both of them walked I wouldn't lose any sleep, assuming we spend Draft Capitol sprucing it up this year. I just don't think (wisely so) P&j have focused on wr much during this rebuilding process, this could be the year.

    I do hope we keep tate and hope if doesn't command much money. I think Baldwin is overrated on here and he disappear just as much as Tate or comparably at least.


    I think we could resign Baldwin for 2-3 million a year.

    Let's be honest, we all love Doug but how much demand do you think there is for a smallish 50 reception a year receiver on the free agent market? Doug might be smarter than most of them, but the fact remains he's a #3 receiver on THIS team, which means he's more of a #4 on other teams. So I'm not worried about resigning both Tate and Baldwin, I think you could resign both for 7 million a year, or less.


    I must not be part of the club cause I don't love Baldwin, I do love him while he's making peanuts though.
    But I agree, it shouldn't break the bank to keep both but at some point somethings gotta give...every time one of these threads pop up everyone wants to keep everyone, 7mill for bald and tater, re sign rice for 3-4, keep Bennet ect ect, no amount of a hometown discount will give us more cap space, people Will be gone next year it's just a matter of who.

    Imo wr will be the easiest to revamp through the draft, at least 1 if not all 3 of our top wrs Could be gone and I wouldn't care personally. I'd much rather let our solid players walk to keep exceptional players like Bennet on the team. If we attack the wr position like we have other positions and Draft/sign a few young wrs, And assume we find one stud/solid player I just don't see it being worth even a few mill to keep Baldwin ect ad his talent level won't be that superior to anyone not labeled a dud.

    This is completely my opinion and I don't have anything substantial to back it but Baldwin Also strikes me as a guy who also wants more attention and balls to catch, which he won't be getting here.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:20 pm
  • The Hawks will try to keep him but Tate will want to stay here.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:21 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:I think we could resign Baldwin for 2-3 million a year.

    So I'm not worried about resigning both Tate and Baldwin, I think you could resign both for 7 million a year, or less.

    I agree... but I'll add that I recall hearing that Baldwin, who is a Restricted Free Agent at the end of this year, will be offered a 2nd Round tender. In 2013, a 2nd Round tender equated to a $2.023M salary.

    Factoring that up for the increase in the salary cap in 2014 ($126.3M) over that of 2013 ($123M), a 2nd Round tender for the 2014 season should be about $2.08M.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:51 pm
  • Well, yeah, if we can. Two sides to the negotiations, with a greedy agent thrown in who gets a cut and the more Tate makes, the more he makes.

    I think I'll put this off til Feb or so. After all, if he catches the game winner in the SB, his price will go up. ;)
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:52 pm
  • I would say yes.
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Re: Do We Re-Sign Tate?
Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:23 pm
  • The league views him as a No.2 with some upside. I've even heard some pundits go as far as saying he's a No.3 receiver at best, which seems like a huge slap in the face (obviously they don't watch the games and go off stats).

    This is great news for Seattle, because now they won't have to break the bank getting the guy.
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