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"Cardinals Head Coach Bruce Arians says Wilson is better than Colin Kaepernick.And that’s why Seattle is better"

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I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.

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I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.


Why shoot the messenger? He was just tweeting what Arians said


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I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.


Why shoot the messenger? He was just tweeting what Arians said


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I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.


I know that all football fans are crazy biased and hate hearing anything but glowing praise about their team and players. But Niner fans regarding Krapernick take it to a whole new level. You can tell deep in their guts, they're worried he might be a flash in the pan.

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I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.


I know that all football fans are crazy biased and hate hearing anything but glowing praise about their team and players. But Niner fans regarding Krapernick take it to a whole new level. You can tell deep in their guts, they're worried he might be a flash in the pan.



Yep! They truly are the Forty Whiners.

They are viscerally afraid of the Prima Donna turning into the next Elvis Grbac, Jeff Garcia, Tim Rattay, Ken Dorsey, J.T. O'Sullivan or Alex Smith.

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drdiags wrote:
I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.


I know that all football fans are crazy biased and hate hearing anything but glowing praise about their team and players. But Niner fans regarding Krapernick take it to a whole new level. You can tell deep in their guts, they're worried he might be a flash in the pan.



Yep! They truly are the Forty Whiners.

They are viscerally afraid of the Prima Donna turning into the next Elvis Grbac, Jeff Garcia, Tim Rattay, Ken Dorsey, J.T. O'Sullivan or Alex Smith.


They're praying Kaep turns into the next Garcia or Smith.


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All you need to do is watch Kaepernick and Wilson head to head to know that Wilson is better.


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There is no question who the better QB is. Kaep is physically gifted, the man runs like a gazelle. He may be one of the fastest players in the NFL! He has a better arm than Wilson as well. So Kaep is faster, taller and has a better arm. In fact, the only place that Wilson has the edge is the place where it matters most, between the ears. Wilson = professor, Kaep = high school drop out.


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SeaTown81 wrote:
drdiags wrote:
I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.


I know that all football fans are crazy biased and hate hearing anything but glowing praise about their team and players. But Niner fans regarding Krapernick take it to a whole new level. UYou can tell deep in their guts, they're worried he might be a flash in the pan.



Yep! They truly are the Forty Whiners.

They are viscerally afraid of the Prima Donna turning into the next Elvis Grbac, Jeff Garcia, Tim Rattay, Ken Dorsey, J.T. O'Sullivan or Alex Smith.

I would posit that if he turns out as good as Alex Smith they would take it and call it a bargain.

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All you need to do is watch Kaepernick and Wilson head to head to know that Wilson is better.


Some people just don't pay attention. Case in point, my idiot younger brother says "If the Seahawks had Kaepernick, the offense would be unstoppable." Not surprisingly, this comment came right after a long bomb to Davis for a TD.


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I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.


Why shoot the messenger? He was just tweeting what Arians said


You know how 49er fans are: unless you proclaim that their team/player/coach/etc. is the Greatest of All Time, they go berserk.

I remember last summer somebody posted and article from a national source stating that Christine Michael was the most explosive running back in this year's draft class. Before you knew it, one of the resident Niner trolls had chimed in with, "well obviously he isn't counting Marcus Lattimore...."


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There is no question who the better QB is. Kaep is physically gifted, the man runs like a gazelle. He may be one of the fastest players in the NFL! He has a better arm than Wilson as well. So Kaep is faster, taller and has a better arm. In fact, the only place that Wilson has the edge is the place where it matters most, between the ears. Wilson = professor, Kaep = high school drop out.


He has a stronger arm, but I wouldn't call it a better arm. IMO Russell has a cleaner, more accurate delivery.

Bill Walsh once said that arm strength is one of the least important attributes of a good NFL quarterback.


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I think he said that Wilson was better in life then Kapernick too.

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There were a couple of Arizona sports hosts that said the same thing after facing Kaepernick and Wilson back to back.

Here's the podcast. It's about 16:50 in.

http://arizonasports.com/?nid=244&a=300 ... 0Hour:%201

They couldn't have been more impressed with Wilson. So we're not the only people seeing it.

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There is no question who the better QB is. Kaep is physically gifted, the man runs like a gazelle. He may be one of the fastest players in the NFL! He has a better arm than Wilson as well. So Kaep is faster, taller and has a better arm. In fact, the only place that Wilson has the edge is the place where it matters most, between the ears. Wilson = professor, Kaep = high school drop out.


Wilson is quicker laterally and has bigger hands. These physical traits are a large part of the reason Wilson has a much higher passer rating when throwing from outside of the pocket than Kaepernick does. I realize that I'm spitting in the wind. It will never become conventional wisdom, but Wilson unarguably has some significant superior athletic gifts over Kap that allow him to do what he does.


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As much as I've bemoaned the fact that he sticks in the pocket too long, Wilson's propensity for doing just that is probably one of the biggest reasons for such visible superiority. Everyone's impressed by the gazelle dashing 50 yards for the touchdown, at least, for awhile. But not when it starts to lose the team games.

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Kaepernick is the better athlete, Wilson is the better quarterback.

Man, if you put Wilson's brain, personality, and drive in Kaepernick's body, you'd have the best QB basically ever.

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I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.


Why shoot the messenger? He was just tweeting what Arians said


Because that's what 49er fans and players do... they shoot people.

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I heard Fitzgerald Sr. caught hell on twitter from irate 9ers fans. Never saw a follow-up story by Sr. to see if he expanded on talking with Arians.


Why shoot the messenger? He was just tweeting what Arians said


Because that's what 49er fans and players do... they shoot people.


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There were a couple of Arizona sports hosts that said the same thing after facing Kaepernick and Wilson back to back.

Here's the podcast. It's about 16:50 in.

http://arizonasports.com/?nid=244&a=300 ... 0Hour:%201

They couldn't have been more impressed with Wilson. So we're not the only people seeing it.


Wow that was a good listen! Thanks for posting.

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There is no question who the better QB is. Kaep is physically gifted, the man runs like a gazelle. He may be one of the fastest players in the NFL! He has a better arm than Wilson as well. So Kaep is faster, taller and has a better arm. In fact, the only place that Wilson has the edge is the place where it matters most, between the ears. Wilson = professor, Kaep = high school drop out.


He has a stronger arm, but I wouldn't call it a better arm. IMO Russell has a cleaner, more accurate delivery.

Bill Walsh once said that arm strength is one of the least important attributes of a good NFL quarterback.


Kaepernick is fast, but WIlson is just as fast. At the combine Kaepernick = 4.53, Wilson = 4.55, hardly a significant advantage. Kaepernick is a long strider, but is significantly less adept and maneuvering around the pocket. Wilson is quicker than fast, Whereas Kaep is faster than quick. I'd rather have Wilson's short space explosion and escapability than Kaep's marginally superior straight line speed. The both have terrific arm strength. Kaep's may be a A+, whereas Wilson = an A. Both are more than adequate.


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There is no question who the better QB is. Kaep is physically gifted, the man runs like a gazelle. He may be one of the fastest players in the NFL! He has a better arm than Wilson as well. So Kaep is faster, taller and has a better arm. In fact, the only place that Wilson has the edge is the place where it matters most, between the ears. Wilson = professor, Kaep = high school drop out.


Oakland signed a QB with the strongest arm I have seen. I mean the dude could launch it 60 yards sitting down. This is the reason that Oakland is such a dominating force in the NFL today.......

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Kaepernick is the better athlete, Wilson is the better quarterback.

Man, if you put Wilson's brain, personality, and drive in Kaepernick's body, you'd have the best QB basically ever.


The Winston kid at FSU looks to be pretty darn close.


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There is no question who the better QB is. Kaep is physically gifted, the man runs like a gazelle. He may be one of the fastest players in the NFL! He has a better arm than Wilson as well. So Kaep is faster, taller and has a better arm. In fact, the only place that Wilson has the edge is the place where it matters most, between the ears. Wilson = professor, Kaep = high school drop out.


He has a stronger arm, but I wouldn't call it a better arm. IMO Russell has a cleaner, more accurate delivery.

Bill Walsh once said that arm strength is one of the least important attributes of a good NFL quarterback.

Best example of what Walsh said: Jeff George

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Per Larry Fitzgerald Sr.



"Cardinals Head Coach Bruce Arians says Wilson is better than Colin Kaepernick.And that’s why Seattle is better"

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https://twitter.com/FitzBeatSr/status/3 ... 4158733314


Who cares what Bruce Arian thinks. If he knew anything about QB's he wouldn't have Carson Palmer starting for his team. LOL


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The Thursday night crew were right beside Wilson in game warm ups and all said he has a very strong arm, as strong as anyone in the league.

His running around and throwing accurate passes way down field reminds me of Bradshaw who was just as explosive on the run as Wilson. I've seen Bradshaw flat footed throw and accurate pass almost 70 yards in the air to catch a receiver in stride.

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There is no question who the better QB is. Kaep is physically gifted, the man runs like a gazelle. He may be one of the fastest players in the NFL! He has a better arm than Wilson as well. So Kaep is faster, taller and has a better arm. In fact, the only place that Wilson has the edge is the place where it matters most, between the ears. Wilson = professor, Kaep = high school drop out.


He has a stronger arm, but I wouldn't call it a better arm. IMO Russell has a cleaner, more accurate delivery.

Bill Walsh once said that arm strength is one of the least important attributes of a good NFL quarterback.


Kaepernick is fast, but WIlson is just as fast. At the combine Kaepernick = 4.53, Wilson = 4.55, hardly a significant advantage. Kaepernick is a long strider, but is significantly less adept and maneuvering around the pocket. Wilson is quicker than fast, Whereas Kaep is faster than quick. I'd rather have Wilson's short space explosion and escapability than Kaep's marginally superior straight line speed. The both have terrific arm strength. Kaep's may be a A+, whereas Wilson = an A. Both are more than adequate.



What has Wilson really accomplished in this league? Granted, he's a nice story, being an undersized QB and doing pretty well. However, he haven't accomplished anything in this league. Kap thus far has had greater success, leading the Niners to the Superbowl in only his 9th start. Russell Wilson doesn't have anything like that on is resume, even though Russell Wilson actually has more game experience than Kap. Russell Wilson still have much to prove, so all you haters need to stop hating.

Back to Bruce Arians, Carson Palmer, his boy, never won a playoff game before, so he needs to shut up.


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The Thursday night crew were right beside Wilson in game warm ups and all said he has a very strong arm, as strong as anyone in the league.

His running around and throwing accurate passes way down field reminds me of Bradshaw who was just as explosive on the run as Wilson. I've seen Bradshaw flat footed throw and accurate pass almost 70 yards in the air to catch a receiver in stride.

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Excuse me, Bradshaw is a 4 time Superbowl champion, I think you need to back away from the Wilson and Bradshaw comparisons.


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There is no question who the better QB is. Kaep is physically gifted, the man runs like a gazelle. He may be one of the fastest players in the NFL! He has a better arm than Wilson as well. So Kaep is faster, taller and has a better arm. In fact, the only place that Wilson has the edge is the place where it matters most, between the ears. Wilson = professor, Kaep = high school drop out.


He has a stronger arm, but I wouldn't call it a better arm. IMO Russell has a cleaner, more accurate delivery.

Bill Walsh once said that arm strength is one of the least important attributes of a good NFL quarterback.


Kaepernick is fast, but WIlson is just as fast. At the combine Kaepernick = 4.53, Wilson = 4.55, hardly a significant advantage. Kaepernick is a long strider, but is significantly less adept and maneuvering around the pocket. Wilson is quicker than fast, Whereas Kaep is faster than quick. I'd rather have Wilson's short space explosion and escapability than Kaep's marginally superior straight line speed. The both have terrific arm strength. Kaep's may be a A+, whereas Wilson = an A. Both are more than adequate.



What has Wilson really accomplished in this league? Granted, he's a nice story, being an undersized QB and doing pretty well. However, he haven't accomplished anything in this league. Kap thus far has had greater success, leading the Niners to the Superbowl in only his 9th start. Russell Wilson doesn't have anything like that on is resume, even though Russell Wilson actually has more game experience than Kap. Russell Wilson still have much to prove, so all you haters need to stop hating.

Back to Bruce Arians, Carson Palmer, his boy, never won a playoff game before, so he needs to shut up.


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Kap's stat line against the Titans could have easily been 2 picks and maybe 100 yards passing, were it not for some acrobat catches and bail-out penalties.
Wilson has had a few games like that this year too though - all young QB's do.
I would definitely say that Wilson>Kap right now 7 games in, in terms of being a decision maker and executing the offense.
still too early to see the "real" trends though, this league is kinda crazy that way.


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No, the defense took the 49ers to the Super Bowl, and of course, Kaepernick choked. He's garbage.


INCORRECT. niners defense was garbage down the stretch and especially in ATL and the SB. the offense won the GB and ATL game, their defense lost them the SB. More so the secondary than anything else, which is their achiles heel again this year. there secondary is mediocre at best. Reid is really the only bright side i see, Whitner can hit, but is horrible in coverage.

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What has Wilson really accomplished in this league? Granted, he's a nice story, being an undersized QB and doing pretty well. However, he haven't accomplished anything in this league. Kap thus far has had greater success, leading the Niners to the Superbowl in only his 9th start. Russell Wilson doesn't have anything like that on is resume, even though Russell Wilson actually has more game experience than Kap. Russell Wilson still have much to prove, so all you haters need to stop hating.

Back to Bruce Arians, Carson Palmer, his boy, never won a playoff game before, so he needs to shut up.


Peyton Manning's TD record for one. He's beaten each team in his own division. Oh and he's managed to accomplish not being a complete douche.

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Arians has also coached a two time super bowl winning quarterback and the quarterback who is probably going to the best quarterback in the league the next ten years. So yeah he's been around a few good ones.


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What has Wilson really accomplished in this league? Granted, he's a nice story, being an undersized QB and doing pretty well. However, he haven't accomplished anything in this league. Kap thus far has had greater success, leading the Niners to the Superbowl in only his 9th start. Russell Wilson doesn't have anything like that on is resume, even though Russell Wilson actually has more game experience than Kap. Russell Wilson still have much to prove, so all you haters need to stop hating.

Back to Bruce Arians, Carson Palmer, his boy, never won a playoff game before, so he needs to shut up.


He's comparing playing styles and arm strength, not careers. WTF is wrong with niner fans on this board? last sentence pretty much sums up this poster for me...

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What has Wilson really accomplished in this league? Granted, he's a nice story, being an undersized QB and doing pretty well. However, he haven't accomplished anything in this league. Kap thus far has had greater success, leading the Niners to the Superbowl in only his 9th start. Russell Wilson doesn't have anything like that on is resume, even though Russell Wilson actually has more game experience than Kap. Russell Wilson still have much to prove, so all you haters need to stop hating.

Back to Bruce Arians, Carson Palmer, his boy, never won a playoff game before, so he needs to shut up.

It's pretty damned debatable that Kaepernick "led" you guys to the Super Bowl. You were a play away from making it with Alexis Smith the year before. Says a lot more about the team around the QB than the QB himself.

You're taking too much credit away from your team and putting it in Kaepernick's hands. Plus, Kaepernick rode the pine for a year-and-a-half, never even able to take the starting job over Alexis Smith.

Wilson thus far in 2013 has more TDs, fewer ints, more passing yards, and a better passer rating than Kaepernick does, through the same # of games. What's also really telling about this is that Wilson doesn't have a fluffer game on his resume this year yet that's bumping up his overall stats by a noticeable margin like Kaepernick does with the "Green Bay's defense never left Wisconsin" game in the season opener. Pete resting him for like a 3rd of the Jacksonville game doesn't help Wilson's stats, either. Also, both teams have had a lot of injuries to overcome, O-line for Seattle and WR for SF mainly, and those things matter, but still.

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Is this even debatable at the moment? There isn't a talking head in the media or around the league who would say Kap is a better QB right now in the NFL than Wilson. Just watching the games tells you all you need to know. Could Kap go on to become an all time great or be better than Wilson? Sure he can although I don't see either happening but its possible. But at this stage of their careers its pretty hard to make an intelligent argument saying Kap is better than Wilson. Why is it hard for San Fran fans to admit that? I honestly hope both have great success and this is a rivalry for years to come. Just makes for fun football for everyone.


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What has he accomplished? Rookie record for TD's after winning the job late in the preseason and having one of the greatest rookie QB seasons EVER. Being undefeated at home to start his career. Winning a playoff game and almost a second which would of gone down as one of the greatest if not the greatest come from behind playoff performance ever regardless of rookie status or not. What do you mean what has he accomplished? That was one of the most uneducated posts I've seen on here. Not trying to be a jerk but thats just ridiculous....


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What has Wilson really accomplished in this league? Granted, he's a nice story, being an undersized QB and doing pretty well. However, he haven't accomplished anything in this league. Kap thus far has had greater success, leading the Niners to the Superbowl in only his 9th start. Russell Wilson doesn't have anything like that on is resume, even though Russell Wilson actually has more game experience than Kap. Russell Wilson still have much to prove, so all you haters need to stop hating.

Back to Bruce Arians, Carson Palmer, his boy, never won a playoff game before, so he needs to shut up.


He's comparing playing styles and arm strength, not careers. WTF is wrong with niner fans on this board? last sentence pretty much sums up this poster for me...


The whole paragraph is incomprehensible. At least it is not full of name calling like most 49er homers resort to.


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There is no question who the better QB is. Kaep is physically gifted, the man runs like a gazelle. He may be one of the fastest players in the NFL! He has a better arm than Wilson as well. So Kaep is faster, taller and has a better arm. In fact, the only place that Wilson has the edge is the place where it matters most, between the ears. Wilson = professor, Kaep = high school drop out.


He has a stronger arm, but I wouldn't call it a better arm. IMO Russell has a cleaner, more accurate delivery.

Bill Walsh once said that arm strength is one of the least important attributes of a good NFL quarterback.


Kaepernick is fast, but WIlson is just as fast. At the combine Kaepernick = 4.53, Wilson = 4.55, hardly a significant advantage. Kaepernick is a long strider, but is significantly less adept and maneuvering around the pocket. Wilson is quicker than fast, Whereas Kaep is faster than quick. I'd rather have Wilson's short space explosion and escapability than Kaep's marginally superior straight line speed. The both have terrific arm strength. Kaep's may be a A+, whereas Wilson = an A. Both are more than adequate.



What has Wilson really accomplished in this league? Granted, he's a nice story, being an undersized QB and doing pretty well. However, he haven't accomplished anything in this league. Kap thus far has had greater success, leading the Niners to the Superbowl in only his 9th start. Russell Wilson doesn't have anything like that on is resume, even though Russell Wilson actually has more game experience than Kap. Russell Wilson still have much to prove, so all you haters need to stop hating.

Back to Bruce Arians, Carson Palmer, his boy, never won a playoff game before, so he needs to shut up.

Wilson has lit up your all world defense the last 2 times he played them and the Kraeper has crapped the bed in both those games!

The only thing you left out was the 5 rings rant!

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This is now the 3rd time I have had to bring these numbers up to the lazy 49er fans who refuse to look up stats and just assume Wilson has accomplished nothing because he didn't go to the SB on the back of team that was already in the NFCC without him the year before.

Look, it's all summed up nicely here for you:

http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/Russell-Wilson%E2%80%99s-numbing-numbers-set-several-records/a7133c91-d30a-454a-89a6-d5b369b956e7

He tied the NFL record for TD passes by a rookie.

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Wilson also threw game-winning TD passes in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime three times – against the Green Bay Packers, New England Patriots and Chicago Bears – which was the most by a rookie QB since the NFL/AFL merger in 1970.


If it wasn't for RG3, Wilson would have set another record, but he'll have to just settle for 2nd best all-time:

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The NFL rookie record had been 98.1 by the Pittsburgh Steelers’ Ben Roethlisberger in 2004. But Wilson (100.0) and RGIII (102.4) each surpassed it this season. A huge factor in that was Wilson (plus-16) and RGIII (plus-15) also bettering the league rookie record mark for TD/interception differential that was set by the Miami Dolphins’ Dan Mario in 1983 (plus-13).


Wilson set the single-season Seahawk record for passer rating.

Don't see Kaepernick on this list:
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Wilson finished fourth in the league in passer rating during the regular season behind the Packers’ Aaron Rodgers (108.0), Denver Broncos’ Manning (105.8) and RGIII. His passer rating in the red zone (107.5, with 18 TDs and no interceptions) was third-best in the league behind the New Orleans Saints’ Drew Brees (112.7) and Rodgers (109.9).


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He also fashioned a passer rating of 125-plus in three consecutive games against the Minnesota Vikings (127.3), New York Jets (131.0) and Miami Dolphins (125.0), which set another NFL rookie record.


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Wilson became the first rookie QB to begin his career 8-0 at home, and his passer rating of 123.6 at CenturyLink Field during the regular season led the league for home games


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And, again, Wilson was even better in the postseason, when his 102.4 rating broke the rookie record of 92.7


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Wilson also had more passing yards in the postseason (572) and in a single postseason game (385) than any rookie in league history


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By completing 252 of 392 passes during the regular season, Wilson’s completion percentage of .641 ranks third all-time among rookie QBs behind Roethlisberger (.664) and RGIII (.657).


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In the game against the Bills in Toronto, Wilson became the first player in NFL history to have three rushing TDs and also pass for a score in the first half of a game.


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Wilson completed an NFL rookie record 16 consecutive passes in Week 12 against the Dolphins, which was one shy of the club record set by Warren Moon in 1998.


And he set many team records.

And that was all in year one. 49er fans can shut up now about how Wilson hasn't accomplished anything in this league.

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And let us not forget that, according to all the media pundits and talking heads, RW did all that with a sub-par, mediocre, below average, et. al receiving corps full of no-buddy's.

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A bunch of awesome stuff


Cue the Niner's fans running in to tell us what Kaep has accomplished, completely missing the point once again.


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