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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
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    Largent80 wrote:9ers also play @Wash. who may be getting things rolling.


    Thank goodness we don't have to play on that sorry excuse for a field this year!

    No kidding. Let's call Vegas and see what the over/under would be on a 49er tearing an ACL or MCL in that game.


    It was redone for this year. Did I miss information about how poorly it was done?
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  • mikeak wrote:It was redone for this year. Did I miss information about how poorly it was done?


    It's redone every year. That field sees a lot of non-NFL action throughout the season (marching bands, local schools using it for this and that, etc.) and it's poorly maintained on an ongoing basis. Whether they are taking better care of it going forward starting this year is what the real question is.
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  • The reason that the Strength of Victory is leaning toward SF is they have yet to play the Jags. After this weekend, that will change.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:Not going to happen. The Niners will drop a game or two along the way.


    I agree, I see them dropping one of the road games to Washington or New Orleans.

    While I admire a well thought out analysis such as this thread, long rang predictions rarely come to fruition in the NFL. Way too many things can happen over the course of a schedule.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:The reason that the Strength of Victory is leaning toward SF is they have yet to play the Jags. After this weekend, that will change.


    Again, iRo's point about the only two differing opponents left on either schedule applies.

    Any change in their SoV from the Jags would have the same effect on ours.
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  • seahawks08 wrote:I think 1 and 0 every week should make us not worry about anything else we cannot control. I think there are so many scenarios which will play out as we get there, but I think seahawks is peaking again, I just hope we continue to do so and win every game from hear on out.


    We are fans... we cannot control any of it..... how about just putting down the hard hat and having a little fun?

    We all get it, anything can happen during a season. We also understand talking about things Seahawk related is entertaining. Put those two together and you can openly talk without having to rely on "Post Game Cliques" .

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  • Whiners do not match up well with the Hawks. Like several folks here have said, Seattle will beat them in the Dump....er Stick.
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  • Historically speaking, it's probably more likely that both teams lose a game or two that nobody is talking about right now but both teams are THAT talented. Could happen.

    This year, I think we see between 4 and 6 teams with 13+ wins (SEA, SF, DEN, KC, GB, Indy). I lean toward 4 because two teams in the NFC North - which I think is the toughest division this year - play one another quite a bit (and they play a talented Lions team).

    Other possible scenarios include splitting SF and NO (in either way). If NO manages to win just ONE of the games against SF or SEA and wins out, do they win #1 seed? We'd have the tie breaker over SF if they were the team we beat, but if not, we wind up being a wildcard as iRo just described.

    I know there are a lot of "what if" scenarios but looking at SF and SEA schedules, it's entirely plausible.
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  • That also makes it super tough this year for other teams not winning their division. 11-5 might not get you a wildcard spot.
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  • So we root for the Giants to be the Redskins and the Vikings to beat the Packers. We pretty much root for the Vikings and Giants the rest of the way and root for the teams playing against the Packers and Redskins.
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  • cacksman wrote:Definitely rooting for the Saints in that game vs. SF. While I don't think we lose in SF, I'll be able to stomach the #2 seed much more than the #5.

    I'm feeling you on that one. Hey, was that you at Bill's Off Broadway last sat rooting for the Cougs and crowding me with all your flaccid Coug chubb? That sure sucked when the rec fell down in the end zone and let the other guy get the pick. I was actually rooting for the Cougs for a second there.
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  • Niners are dead last in NFL in passing game based on average yards per game. Wait till they fall behind late in a game and need to depend on passing the ball to win a game late. That's when they lose a game or two.

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  • I get this, it's a math problem.

    Problem being that, because of your comments, there are those here who will equate you with the dude in 5 Monkeys who got on the plane at the end.

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  • San Francisco is likely to lose to New Orleans because it's in The Dome and it looks like RG3 is finally healthy so that game will be another very losable game beyond our tilt. So not likely they win out, more likely they go 12-4. Which is the worst we will go at this point.
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  • KCHawkGirl wrote:San Francisco is likely to lose to New Orleans because it's in The Dome and it looks like RG3 is finally healthy so that game will be another very losable game beyond our tilt. So not likely they win out, more likely they go 12-4. Which is the worst we will go at this point.

    We could still end up as a wild card if the Whiners and Hawks end up with the same record and the Whiners beat us @SF. Whether it's 14-2 or 12-4...it could happen.

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  • KCHawkGirl wrote:San Francisco is likely to lose to New Orleans because it's in The Dome and it looks like RG3 is finally healthy so that game will be another very losable game beyond our tilt. So not likely they win out, more likely they go 12-4. Which is the worst we will go at this point.


    2012 Bears started 7-1 and finished 10-6.

    Sure would be nice if the 2013 49ers would duplicate the back end of their season.
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  • Surely this would not happen, right?
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  • Hell, I think we can win three straight on the road anyway.
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  • Look at the bright side, that would mean we'd get an extra game of Seahawks football this season.
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  • But seriously, the way the Vikes and Giants look, we'd better win both those games.

    I still think Seattle and San Fran are 1-2 in the league, so a really good team is going to get hosed this year.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:Look at the bright side, that would mean we'd get an extra game of Seahawks football this season.


    My SeaHawk blinders prevent me from seeing a bright side of finishing behind the 9ers in the div. I will die.
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  • Roland, you forgot to factyor in the week after syndrome.

    The week after we visit the niners, they are guaranteed to lose whoever it is they play . . . therefore, even if we drop the ninner game, ninners end up with one more loss.

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  • That would suck to have to play on the road wildcard weekend with a record of 14-2.
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  • Smelly McUgly wrote:But seriously, the way the Vikes and Giants look, we'd better win both those games.

    I still think Seattle and San Fran are 1-2 in the league, so a really good team is going to get hosed this year.


    That was a horrible game. If Eli wasn't over throwing open receivers, they were dropping the ball when he did throw accurately. And I can sure see why Tampa Bay decided to part ways with Freeman. That guy couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. He's going to get eaten alive in our house.

    A really good team got hosed last season, too.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:The reason that the Strength of Victory is leaning toward SF is they have yet to play the Jags. After this weekend, that will change.


    Our SoV will be the exact same over 14 games, with the other 2 games coming against Green Bay and Washington for SF, and New York & Carolina for us.

    I think we can expect Green Bay will probably end up with more wins than our two opponents combined thanks to the ineptitude of the Giants.
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  • By the time we return to candlestick we will have some extra weapons. I'm expecting some real class from niners fans upon our entry into the stadium
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  • The calculation above of equal record while interesting is powerful early to be made. Still lots of football to be played and Frank Gore has yet to suffer his annual ankle injury which if timed well enough should be troubling for the Digits. Too many variables still to consider this calculation more than a well thought out troubling concern what if situation.

    I think I will pay more attention to the playoff positions after we seen 1/2 the season played or at least until the next home series is done. Then it wIll be more interesting to assess if the team is a wildcard or bye team heading into the playoffs. I still am totally of the belief this team could easily be the #1 seed and the playoffs will be going through Seattle this year. We need to keep the faith.

    Time will tell but the next two divisional games for us are key for the year, especially the SF game.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to completely take the final step. That was done and the final step was taken.

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  • Tech Worlds wrote:That would suck to have to play on the road wildcard weekend with a record of 14-2.

    Truth.

    I do get a vibe that us and the Niners have to play 3 times this year. Destiny. Which is fine, I like the way we match up with them, and there is zero chance a road game at the stick will be an early game.
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  • if we somehow go 14-2 we will have the number one seed and HFA throughout the playoffs. you can take that to the bank.
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  • The San Francisco 49ers exposed themselves as jokes after the blowout losses to Seattle and Indianapolis. They will struggle to get a wild card. Indianapolis lost to San Diego, who in turn lost to the Oakland Raiders.

    Enough said.
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  • The Radish wrote:I see some industrious little beaver posted this on 2 forums.

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    Someone copied my post? Where?
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  • Mitch on KJR appears to read this board and is spending about 20 minutes discussing this very topic. SEA and SF tied at 14-2.
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  • Really sad when speculation about a remotely possible week 17 result is all Mitch can find to talk about when the team has an unprecedented 6-1 record.

    Perhaps we need to focus upon the ride here, it is pretty freaking special for those of us who have seen the ugly for as long as we have. Not telling anyone what to think as it's a free world but the ride this year has been pretty special.

    I'd rather speculate about the positive addition of Percy, and MRob and the soon to return Giacomini and Okung. I'm not buying that SF will have a 14-2 record at the end from what I've seen from them.

    Time will tell but this ride is pretty freaking special and deserves to be relished and savoured as extraordinary.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to completely take the final step. That was done and the final step was taken.

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  • If you find it really sad, Jammer, that's fine; but please know that plenty of people can discuss potentially negative outcomes of things without being negative, thinking negatively, or having it take away from their enjoyment of the positive.
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  • jammerhawk wrote:The calculation above of equal record while interesting is powerful early to be made. Still lots of football to be played and Frank Gore has yet to suffer his annual ankle injury which if timed well enough should be troubling for the Digits. Too many variables still to consider this calculation more than a well thought out troubling concern what if situation.

    I think I will pay more attention to the playoff positions after we seen 1/2 the season played or at least until the next home series is done. Then it wIll be more interesting to assess if the team is a wildcard or bye team heading into the playoffs. I still am totally of the belief this team could easily be the #1 seed and the playoffs will be going through Seattle this year. We need to keep the faith.

    Time will tell but the next two divisional games for us are key for the year, especially the SF game.


    The further away we are from Dec. 30th, the more whacky and outrageous the hundreds, if not thousands, of possible playoff scenarios look. The talking heads don't even start discussing it until after Thanksgiving weekend.

    But looking at the schedule, there's no doubt that we are in very good shape, better than either the Saints or the Niners. We could easily lose two or even three more games and still be in a position to get HFA. And who knows? There's a number of other teams, like the Packers with just two losses or one of the other three teams with just three losses, that could go on a run and wind up with HFA.
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  • We are all talking about the 49ers but I can see the Packers going 13-3 and even 14-2. Except going @Dallas and @Chicago their remaining schedule is peanuts.
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  • Yeah, I'm not even a teeny tiny bit worried about this scenario at this point. I just don't see the 9ers finishing the season on a 13 game winning streak including wins @ New Orleans and against us.

    If we both win out until the rematch in SF and if SF wins that game, then I'll start to be concerned about this scenario playing out, but that's a ways away and a lot can happen in between now and then.
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  • Coxal wrote:We are all talking about the 49ers but I can see the Packers going 13-3 and even 14-2. Except going @Dallas and @Chicago their remaining schedule is peanuts.



    France where? And when did you get here? Green Bay is a threat, no doubt, but their receivers keep falling (now Finley).
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  • bestfightstory wrote:
    Coxal wrote:We are all talking about the 49ers but I can see the Packers going 13-3 and even 14-2. Except going @Dallas and @Chicago their remaining schedule is peanuts.



    France where? And when did you get here? Green Bay is a threat, no doubt, but their receivers keep falling (now Finley).


    Even healthy, Green Bay still has the same problems it did last year with the exception that Lacy's providing some semblance of a run game. They're going to in the 11-5 region, IMO.
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  • History would suggest the Pack will do anything, including start backups the last week, to avoid going to San Fran, or even hosting them.
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  • bestfightstory wrote:
    Coxal wrote:We are all talking about the 49ers but I can see the Packers going 13-3 and even 14-2. Except going @Dallas and @Chicago their remaining schedule is peanuts.



    France where? And when did you get here? Green Bay is a threat, no doubt, but their receivers keep falling (now Finley).

    Their backup WRs seems pretty good and we are talking about Rodgers. But I was just sayin... ^^

    And yes i'm french, living near Lyon the second biggest city of the country after Paris. I'm on this board for few years now i'd say since 2009. I mostly read your stuff guys and not talking too much because I discovered football late in my poor european life... So i'm learning from you :snack: FYI I fell in love with our Seahawks the second I discovered the NFL. Can't explain that.
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  • Coxal wrote:
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    Coxal wrote:We are all talking about the 49ers but I can see the Packers going 13-3 and even 14-2. Except going @Dallas and @Chicago their remaining schedule is peanuts.



    France where? And when did you get here? Green Bay is a threat, no doubt, but their receivers keep falling (now Finley).

    Their backup WRs seems pretty good and we are talking about Rodgers. But I was just sayin... ^^

    And yes i'm french, living near Lyon the second biggest city of the country after Paris. I'm on this board for few years now i'd say since 2009. I mostly read your stuff guys and not talking too much because I discovered football late in my poor european life... So i'm learning from you :snack: FYI I fell in love with our Seahawks the second I discovered the NFL. Can't explain that.


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  • I don't think we will both be tied at 14 wins. One of us will fail to reach that mark. Hopefully them.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    chrispy wrote:The strength of opponents change on a weekly basis. It's really not meaningful until the end of the season where the entire 16 game schedule is used to base the strength of each opponent. A lot of teams have streaks where they have 2-3 "easy" or "hard" games in a row.

    This is true, but the 49ers already have the SoV advantage, and since they only play two different opponents than we do the rest of the year, the Packers & Redskins compared to our Vikings and Giants, which group of two do you think will have a LOT more wins at the end of the year than the other? It's pretty likely that the 49ers would win SoV over us if they went 14-2. Not guaranteed, but pretty likely.

    volsunghawk wrote:Another way to phrase this is "If the Seahawks win out, we're guaranteed HFA throughout the playoffs." :mrgreen:

    Very true. :)

    volsunghawk wrote:I'll go ahead and say it right now. I don't think our division will come down to tiebreakers.

    Oh, I don't think it will, either. I'm just saying, there is a realistic chance that the scenario I described could happen. Not a one-in-a-thousand kind of thing, but as in, it really could happen.

    volsunghawk wrote:I think the thought of both of our teams winning out until our matchup in SF tends to overlook history and underestimate other NFL franchises.

    I also agree.


    The killer in the tie breaking scenario is they get the Packers while we get the Vikings. The Giants/Skins is only a one game difference now and could easily end up a wash, but I can't envision a scenario where the Packers have a worse record than the Vikings this year.

    With that, I still say that it doesn't come down to tiebreakers as well, so I agree with you guys there, but the scenario had crossed my mind, but I put it aside and decided not to even look up the scenario until after we played the Niners in December (with the thought that I wouldn't need to look it up as we'd have head to head)
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  • I think there may be a misconception in this thread. Let me clarify. I do not think the scenario I outlined is likely. I'd give it maybe 10-1 odds right now. Realistically possibly, but pretty unlikely. I think the fact that it's even realistically possible is incredible, though. The part that is most intriguing to me is the fact that a division winner might be decided by strength of victory. How often does that happen? It has to be incredibly rare.

    I'm a fan of the Seahawks first and foremost, but I'm also a fan of the NFL; the game itself. This possibility would intrigue me even if it was between two AFC teams in a division I couldn't care less about.
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  • bestfightstory wrote::2: Very very cool. Have never seen France represented here, before.

    I want to travel everywhere in the world and have not made it to France, yet. Sante!

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  • Neither team will win out. I'd be shocked if either team did.

    I highly doubt Seattle sweeps the entire NFC west outside of sf.

    Defensive oriented teams are built to dominate in playoffs not usually win a ton of regular season games.

    Both teams in question will have duds of offensive performances where the defense will have a hard time overcoming.

    Every opponent is gunning hard for these two teams.

    Division winner probably at 12 games, runner up at 11.

    Where I think we may see a 12 or 13 win wildcard is AFC west between Denver and KC. Denver might be better but KC has easier schedule outside of division till the end.
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  • NINEster wrote:Neither team will win out. I'd be shocked if either team did.

    I highly doubt Seattle sweeps the entire NFC west outside of sf.

    Defensive oriented teams are built to dominate in playoffs not usually win a ton of regular season games.

    Both teams in question will have duds of offensive performances where the defense will have a hard time overcoming.

    Every opponent is gunning hard for these two teams.

    Division winner probably at 12 games, runner up at 11.

    Where I think we may see a 12 or 13 win wildcard is AFC west between Denver and KC. Denver might be better but KC has easier schedule outside of division till the end.


    I agree with the general point of your post, but doubting that Seattle sweeps the NFCW outside of SF?

    We get St. Louis in their house this coming Monday, playing against Kellen Clemens. I think there's a very high probability of a Seattle win there.

    The only non-SF division games after that are both in Seattle at the very end of the season. The only way we DON'T win both of those is if we've already locked up the division and the #1 seed in the playoffs.
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  • Tech Worlds wrote:That would suck to have to play on the road wildcard weekend with a record of 14-2.

    It would feel like kharma after winning the div at 7&9 a couple years ago. It would also feel well-deserved if we went into SF with our destiny in our hands and effin blew it.
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