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Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:13 pm
  • Did they ever report how bad he was hurt on that catch. The broadcasters mentioned something about a possible concussion. He catches everything
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:14 pm
  • He did get a concussion per Ian Furness. Still makes the team.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:17 pm
  • Sounds like he did sustain a concussion from what I've heard so far.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:19 pm
  • I didn't notice the helmet smacking the ground the first time. I was re watching ther irst drive and looked specifically for that. It was quite a thump on the turf. Hoping it isn't too serious
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:22 pm
  • Would hate being in Pete's shoes this weekend. Such horrible timing and Harper didn't help himself tonight. I am thinking he makes the team given he looks like he has developed chemistry with Wilson. 58 yard bomb right?
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:22 pm
  • I think Harper played himself off the team as well
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:23 pm
  • 9 days to get ready. I bet he'll be suited up next Sunday as the #5 WR.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:26 pm
  • Williams is a lock. No brainer for the final 53 at this point. Top 5 WRs are set IMO.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:28 pm
  • Harper did not help himself at all tonight. Dropped TD and third down conversion; both placed right on his hands. You have to feel for the guy.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:45 pm
  • PlinytheCenter wrote:Harper did not help himself at all tonight. Dropped TD and third down conversion; both placed right on his hands. You have to feel for the guy.


    INCORRECT.

    It's a setup.

    He was instructed to muff those catches so we could sneak him on to the PS.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:47 pm
  • He got right back up and look like he got his bell rang a little. Worst case he sits out next week, and is good solid depth when we need him. That and he was standing on the sidelines in the 1st quarter, so it couldn't be anything too major.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:20 pm
  • bestfightstory wrote:INCORRECT. It's a setup. He was instructed to muff those catches so we could sneak him on to the PS.


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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:54 am
  • seatownboy wrote:He got right back up and look like he got his bell rang a little. Worst case he sits out next week, and is good solid depth when we need him. That and he was standing on the sidelines in the 1st quarter, so it couldn't be anything too major.


    That's encouraging
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:25 am
  • Carroll didn't sound all that concerned about Williams in his press conference and said that it was more a matter of the team being "overly cautious" than anything else. Williams should be okay.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:56 am
  • Aristotle22 wrote:I think Harper played himself off the team as well

    Agreed. He was horrible. I was really pulling for him too. At best, PS player cuz I still think he has some promise. Just not game ready yet.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:00 am
  • That 50 yard catch was freaking awesome....yea, but when Stephens head hit the ground, it looked like it bounced pretty hard...OUCH!!!
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:06 am
  • Williams is a lock. Even with Wilson's half assed throw.
    Harper just imploded last night. Like the conspiracy theory there though!
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:12 am
  • Evil_Shenanigans wrote:Williams is a lock. Even with Wilson's half assed throw.
    Harper just imploded last night. Like the conspiracy theory there though!


    I want to look at that play again, but its hard to criticize Wilson for throwing the ball short and still throwing the ball 60 yards. The worst I could say about Wilson is that he threw the ball late, not short.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:58 am
  • McGruff wrote:
    Evil_Shenanigans wrote:Williams is a lock. Even with Wilson's half assed throw.
    Harper just imploded last night. Like the conspiracy theory there though!


    I want to look at that play again, but its hard to criticize Wilson for throwing the ball short and still throwing the ball 60 yards. The worst I could say about Wilson is that he threw the ball late, not short.


    I honestly need to watch it again, but first impression was it just wasn't on the mark. Somebody has to critique the lil fella just to keep his feet on the ground.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:14 am
  • bestfightstory wrote:
    PlinytheCenter wrote:Harper did not help himself at all tonight. Dropped TD and third down conversion; both placed right on his hands. You have to feel for the guy.


    INCORRECT.

    It's a setup.

    He was instructed to muff those catches so we could sneak him on to the PS.


    When Harper dropped the TD that hit him in the hands, this is exactly what I was thinking. I would love to see him stick on the practice squad. :snack:
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:23 am
  • I think we should all just give thanks that the biggest worry on our roster is filling out practice squad positions.

    Wasn't too long ago that we were arguing over who the #2,3 receivers were, who'd start at outside LB, picking up starting O-Linemen after other team's cuts and whether Kelly Jennings could stop sucking long enough to be the #2 DB.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:24 am
  • Evil_Shenanigans wrote:Williams is a lock. Even with Wilson's half assed throw.
    Harper just imploded last night. Like the conspiracy theory there though!


    His half-assed 60 yard bomb? Geez, this fan base is seriously getting spoiled.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:31 am
  • I recorded the first part of the game and reviewed the bomb. A few conclusions (keep in mind I'm an expert at this sort of thing):

    1. The ball traveled 61 yards in the air
    2. Williams did a really good job of getting behind coverage
    3. Williams timed when to go up to get the ball perfectly
    3. We should cut Wilson because he did, in fact, throw the ball a little late

    I'm not sure if the ball was deliberately underthrown, as Wilson may have been compensating for some of his overthrows, but the moral of the story is having a WR who is 6'5" with long arms and good strength should take some of the "thinking" out of it. Just throw the rock and let the big boy go get it!
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:34 am
  • MysterMatt wrote:I recorded the first part of the game and reviewed the bomb. A few conclusions (keep in mind I'm an expert at this sort of thing):

    1. The ball traveled 61 yards in the air
    2. Williams did a really good job of getting behind coverage
    3. Williams timed when to go up to get the ball perfectly
    3. We should cut Wilson because he did, in fact, throw the ball a little late

    I'm not sure if the ball was deliberately underthrown, as Wilson may have been compensating for some of his overthrows, but the moral of the story is having a WR who is 6'5" with long arms and good strength should take some of the "thinking" out of it. Just throw the rock and let the big boy go get it!


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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:50 am
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:57 am
  • DavidSeven wrote:
    Evil_Shenanigans wrote:Williams is a lock. Even with Wilson's half assed throw.
    Harper just imploded last night. Like the conspiracy theory there though!


    His half-assed 60 yard bomb? Geez, this fan base is seriously getting spoiled.

    It was definitely not a good throw. 1/2 the time that gets picked.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:04 am
  • After two picks last week think Russell hesitated just slightly, he was looking deep for awhile as if pondering the throw.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:24 am
  • Percy Harvin was no longer a bad move because he is injury prone - Now it is a bad move because our receiving core is one of our best position groups without him. Waaaaaaay to much cap space if our #4 & #5 receivers play like this during the regular season.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:33 am
  • Wilson obviously sucks. If he was any good he would have covered that 80 yards and scored on one or two plays, not three. What a loser. :stirthepot:
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:42 am
  • jdblack wrote:Percy Harvin was no longer a bad move because he is injury prone - Now it is a bad move because our receiving core is one of our best position groups without him. Waaaaaaay to much cap space if our #4 & #5 receivers play like this during the regular season.

    And this is the reason Rice might be expendable, but Williams didn't help himself last night by getting injured again.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:52 am
  • MysterMatt wrote:I recorded the first part of the game and reviewed the bomb. A few conclusions (keep in mind I'm an expert at this sort of thing):

    1. The ball traveled 61 yards in the air
    2. Williams did a really good job of getting behind coverage
    3. Williams timed when to go up to get the ball perfectly
    3. We should cut Wilson because he did, in fact, throw the ball a little late

    I'm not sure if the ball was deliberately underthrown, as Wilson may have been compensating for some of his overthrows, but the moral of the story is having a WR who is 6'5" with long arms and good strength should take some of the "thinking" out of it. Just throw the rock and let the big boy go get it!


    What to me is interesting is this notion about underthrown and late. I actually think it was overthrown. You don't throw it much longer than 60 yards (I surely don't :D) but if you look at the flight of the ball it went so high up that it trailed off and arrived later. If that thing is thrown at a slightly lower angle it gets there right on time and doesn't allow the defender to adjust. It is not a great throw. This doesn't mean that RW isn't a good / great qb and I don't understand why a play can't be criticized without everyone jumping on a "well you are saying RW sucks you are an idiot".... it was not a great throw despite how far it went. On the other hand - not to concerned about 61 yard interceptions on jump balls and when it works well then the outcome is pretty freaking great.
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Re: Stephen Williams
Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:08 pm
  • Well seeing that timing and release of down field passes like that take a bit of chemistry I am not worried, thats the type of pass you get better at with practice and being able to gauge your recievers speed. Big tall guys look like they are moving slower then they are also.
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