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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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I think Williams just got a bit rattled. If he were seriously concussed, I doubt they would have had him standing on the sideline for the remainder of the game. In any event, he's got more than a week to clear any cobwebs.


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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Here is what I think. We are keeping him because we all know that Tate is gonna have a big year with us this season. And there is no way we can retain him next season. Harper will come through. Just like Tate did.


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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Sandpoint Hawk wrote:
Here is what I think. We are keeping him because we all know that Tate is gonna have a big year with us this season. And there is no way we can retain him next season. Harper will come through. Just like Tate did.


We will pay Tate and cut Rice.

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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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Sandpoint Hawk wrote:
Here is what I think. We are keeping him because we all know that Tate is gonna have a big year with us this season. And there is no way we can retain him next season. Harper will come through. Just like Tate did.



They obviously saw something in Harper (4th?!) and Tate is definitely going to have a banner year. IF we win the SB, I hope we re-sign Tate, move Harvin.


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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Sandpoint Hawk wrote:
Here is what I think. We are keeping him because we all know that Tate is gonna have a big year with us this season. And there is no way we can retain him next season. Harper will come through. Just like Tate did.


We will pay Tate and cut Rice.

Agreed.

I like Rice, I really do, I just don't like the salary that we have to pay him. Would love if he would take a pay cut but who knows.


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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Sandpoint Hawk wrote:
Here is what I think. We are keeping him because we all know that Tate is gonna have a big year with us this season. And there is no way we can retain him next season. Harper will come through. Just like Tate did.



They obviously saw something in Harper (4th?!) and Tate is definitely going to have a banner year. IF we win the SB, I hope we re-sign Tate, move Harvin.


Sad. Thank god you don't run the front office. Housh and Big-Mike would probably be running deep posts w/ Hass throwing it up.

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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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I hope we keep Harper and I have been a big fan of his since about around the middle of last season and I would hate to cut him and watch him become a solid player for another team. He had a couple of unfortunate drops, but the numbers game at WR probably put a lot of pressure on him when he finally got a significant amount of reps in the last pre-season game. Don't give up on him as a player, there was a guy you may have heard of that was a former 1st round pick who struggled his rookie year with dropped passes...his name is Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice's rookie year he dropped quite a few passes and at one point during a game he broke down crying because of his struggles on the field. Now, no I'm not saying Harper is the next Jerry Rice, but he can still be the tough, physical, great hands WR that our coaching staff envisioned him to be.

Here is an article on Jerry Rice's struggle with drops his rookie year.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2006/too-deep-zone-jerry-rice-rookie-bust


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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OMG! It appears that today we cut MikeRob instead of this guy?!?

All I can say is he better be payin' off bigtime in the longrun...

before I embarrass myself further; I'll shut up.
In PCJS we trust.


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T-Sizzle wrote:
Sandpoint Hawk wrote:
Here is what I think. We are keeping him because we all know that Tate is gonna have a big year with us this season. And there is no way we can retain him next season. Harper will come through. Just like Tate did.


We will pay Tate and cut Rice.

Agreed.

I like Rice, I really do, I just don't like the salary that we have to pay him. Would love if he would take a pay cut but who knows.


Soon, unless I am seeing this wrong, all the high dollar non-QBs / CBs will be taking pay cuts.
Rice was money last year but his track record...not so much. I value him, but he's making about twice as much as he's worth to this team (IMO). I don't see him reducing his asking price by that much so...he'll be toast.


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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Kearse already IS much of what we hope Harper *could* become. I'd feel confident seeing Kearse out on the field as a starter if one of our current starters were unable to go.


Yup....like 6 regular season receptions and he is there.


I'm sticking with Kearse on this one. He gets it this year. He is a playmaker. 6 regular season receptions and all. I say Kearse is on the field enough to catch 20+ passes this year, (more if Rice/Tate other WR's miss games) and makes some key plays during the season to keep the W's rolling. Kearse now IS a legit NFL receiver. I see it came off like I was drawing a parallel between Kearse's skill set and Harper's skill set. To clarify, the skill set parallels are Kearse has that we hope for from Harper, is that Kearse is now a legit NFL receiver, Kearse gets open, Kearse *makes plays* on balls thrown to him in traffic. And, this year (so far, knock on wood...) Kearse CATCHES the ball. Obviously Harper is a bigger body and has some other unique advantages.

In truth, I hope we find a way to keep Harper. I say the dropsies are uncharacteristic and will go away. Part of me wonders if Pete told him to intentionally drop a couple EZ balls to help other teams pass on him. Seriously, for a moment. But then I dismissed that thought because that would simply be counter to the whole Pete Carroll program.


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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With MRob gone, I'm feeling like Harper gets kept on the 53.


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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Unless this kid has been lights out on special teams or at least shown potential for it I am not too worried about where he ends up.With the talent this team has I dont think players have the luxury of spending 3 years learning the route tree.Cutting a 4th round pick isnt that big of a deal,in the long run most dont make it


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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I hope we keep Harper and I have been a big fan of his since about around the middle of last season and I would hate to cut him and watch him become a solid player for another team. He had a couple of unfortunate drops, but the numbers game at WR probably put a lot of pressure on him when he finally got a significant amount of reps in the last pre-season game. Don't give up on him as a player, there was a guy you may have heard of that was a former 1st round pick who struggled his rookie year with dropped passes...his name is Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice's rookie year he dropped quite a few passes and at one point during a game he broke down crying because of his struggles on the field. Now, no I'm not saying Harper is the next Jerry Rice, but he can still be the tough, physical, great hands WR that our coaching staff envisioned him to be.

Here is an article on Jerry Rice's struggle with drops his rookie year.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2006/too-deep-zone-jerry-rice-rookie-bust


did you just compare Chris Harper to Jerry Rice


I think you did


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 Post subject: Re: The Chris Harper dilemma
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If I'm stuck with him... FINE!
Catch the ball fool!


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