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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:33 pm 
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theENGLISHseahawk wrote:
I still don't understand this suggestion that he's making anything up.

Florio's not talking in facts. He's suggesting, again....


Ah, but you could say the same thing about the Rice article from last spring. He never stated as fact that Rice would be a cap casualty this year, he just suggested it was a possibility after Harvin was signed. The problem was that he had absolutely nothing to base that suggestion on, and even worse he wrote his piece in such a way that people might believe that he had sources telling him that Rice could be a cap casualty. In this case...

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[T]he fact Harvin hasn't just come out and been cleared by this specialist suggests it's not the good news we were hoping for. I think we can all agree that the chances are Harvin won't come out tomorrow and say, "the specialist says I'm good to go". What is more likely is that the specialist has suggested surgery and the team are now talking to Harvin about the options. Otherwise we'd have heard something by now.


... he is doing the same thing by stating that the fact that we haven't heard anything definitive probably means that Harvin will have surgery. The problem is this case goes back to my last post: Harvin will almost certainly have surgery on his hip AT SOME POINT. I can't remember any player with a torn labrum in either his shoulder or hip who didn't eventually have surgery on it. So by Florio saying the delay makes it likely that Harvin will have surgery, he's not really telling us anything. What matters is when Harvin will have the surgery, and whether he can delay it until after the season, and the fact that we haven't heard anything yet doesn't tell us anything about that question. Florio's post leaves people with the impression that it does, which is wrong IMHO.

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I get that some people don't much like Florio, but in this instance I find it hard to argue with him. He's called it pretty well for me.


I like Florio fine when he sticks to reporting the actual news. When he gets obsessed over something (such as the "Fail Mary" or the name "Redskins") or pulls something out of thin air like he did today, it's shoddy journalism. We need less of that these days, not more.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)
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There is a lot of info out there on this type of injury, Fieldgulls has a great write-up on it. If he moves forward with the surgery, which is likely, he will most likely be back around week 7. Not a bad deal to ensure the problem is taken care of and Percy's career isn't in jeopardy. Season ending really isn't in the cards from what I have read.


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 Post subject: Re: Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)
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There is a lot of info out there on this type of injury, Fieldgulls has a great write-up on it. If he moves forward with the surgery, which is likely, he will most likely be back around week 7. Not a bad deal to ensure the problem is taken care of and Percy's career isn't in jeopardy. Season ending really isn't in the cards from what I have read.


Yeah it looks like either way he should be able to contribute this year in some capacity, even if it is just coming back at the end of the season and (hopefully) playoffs.

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 Post subject: Re: Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)
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Personally, I hope he has the surgery now and gets it over with, especially if he'd only miss 1-2 months of regular season action. I'd rather go without him for the first part of the season and have him 100% healthy for the stretch run and the playoffs than have him try to play, do further damage to the hip, and lose him for the rest of the year (and possibly put his future career at risk if the injury permanently affects his speed, acceleration, and/or agility.)


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 Post subject: Re: Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)
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Enough with the bickering folks, the rest of us don't care...


word.


God damnit, Ive been craving poutine since yesterday. Im envious of you.

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 Post subject: Re: Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)
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I am sorry, but this is just speculation on your part, even if it is coming from an exceptionally intelligent person whose work I very much enjoy reading (if theENGLISHseahawk is who I think that he is).


No need to apologise, but I don't see what I'm speculating about really? After all, I'm just agreeing with Florio and suggesting myself this has become a shambles. Which IMO, it has.

Harvin's gone from flying around one minute, to sitting the next. The team doctors say he can play, but then he wants a second opinion. It's taken days to get that second opinion, dragging out the drama even longer. And now everyone is being forced to wait even longer while Percy finally decides what he wants to do.

Harvin is known for drama, and this is another example. Make a decision Percy and get on with it so whatever happens this team can move on.


I'm sorry, I gotcha now. I thought that you were doomsaying BECAUSE of Florio's article, not that you were merely pointing out that you agree.

I disagree, but we'll see who is right soon enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)
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Percy just tweeted he has to have surgery

Percy Harvin ‏@Percy_Harvin 1m
when everything is goin good sometimes life throw u a curve ball... sorry to half to report that my injury will require surgery...


and he tweeted this:
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Nobody was more anxious and excited about season then....but I will be back strong as ever..i appreciate all the love and prayers 12th man

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Talking about surgery on NFLN now. Damn.

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Damn it. Why are we so cursed in regards to wide recievers?


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 Post subject: Re: Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)
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Can we have those picks back please?

OK, that's the last irrational thing I'm going to say about this.

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 Post subject: Re: Harvin - "ailing hip"....(labrum)
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dbmack wrote:
Percy just tweeted he has to have surgery

Percy Harvin ‏@Percy_Harvin 1m
when everything is goin good sometimes life throw u a curve ball... sorry to half to report that my injury will require surgery...


and he tweeted this:
Percy Harvin ‏@Percy_Harvin 2m
Nobody was more anxious and excited about season then....but I will be back strong as ever..i appreciate all the love and prayers 12th man


Any word on timeline of recovery?


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 Post subject: Re: Harvin -
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-The Glove- wrote:
dbmack wrote:
Percy just tweeted he has to have surgery

Percy Harvin ‏@Percy_Harvin 1m
when everything is goin good sometimes life throw u a curve ball... sorry to half to report that my injury will require surgery...


and he tweeted this:
Percy Harvin ‏@Percy_Harvin 2m
Nobody was more anxious and excited about season then....but I will be back strong as ever..i appreciate all the love and prayers 12th man


Any word on timeline of recovery?

not from him yet. I don't know what news sites are reporting though.


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