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Another player with a great attitude.



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I like him. Has upside to be a Red Bryant type. Won't be much of a pass rusher and I do have some concerns about those chicken legs and knees. He's very, very top heavy, but can still be a good 3 and 5 tech on run downs again a la Big Red. And much like Red, I don't like him at 1 tech. His legs aren't as long as Red's, but they're skinny and contrary to popular belief I don't really like him at 1 tech/NT.

People see 323 pounds and think it's simple. It's not, but he can still be a very good player.


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I sure hope he can bring it. We need the DL help.

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He'll be a run-stopping machine. 1st and 2nd down to spell Red at least initially. Give him a couple years of NFL coaching and who knows? The most important part is that he wants to work hard. That's all you can ask of a guy.


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I think, he feels ready to make an impact on the field as quickly as possible, and it's hard not to like that. He knows what people have been saying about his ability to make an impact as a pass rusher, and about the concerns people have/had about his knees. It looks like he is studying hard and doing work in the weight room...hard not to be excited about him.

Played some fullback, plays rugby, can fit any scheme, and it's easy to see what PC&JS saw in the fella.

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Vin, I agree that Jesse's legs look disproportionately slender compared to his upper body, but I used to think the same thing about Shawn Kemp, and his legs were strong enough to launch him way over the rim. I'm not a sports scientist, but I'd be surprised if muscle strength is directly related to muscle bulk.


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I bet his knee is just fine.

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I bet his knee is just fine.


Knowing how John and Pete work, I agree. They wouldn't draft a guy for a need position with significant injury concerns.

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That's the definition of a "Barrel Chested Man."

In the skinny legs department, Warren Sapp's legs always looked too skinny to hold him up.

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lol, he's like Bluto.

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I am assuming that the Hawk trainers will be working on his legs to bolster the muscle mass. I too am less concerned about his legs.

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Can hardly wait for Training Camp to begin...then we will see who he can "push around". ;)


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I bet his knee is just fine.


Knowing how John and Pete work, I agree. They wouldn't draft a guy for a need position with significant injury concerns.


They are draft day pirates, to be sure. They have pillaged the fifth round, picking massively talented players seemingly every draft. I not only suspect that Williams will continue in the same tradition of fifth round excellence, I expect it. Williams will play significant time this season, and given the opportunity, will absolutely dominate the middle of the line.

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Vin, I agree that Jesse's legs look disproportionately slender compared to his upper body, but I used to think the same thing about Shawn Kemp, and his legs were strong enough to launch him way over the rim. I'm not a sports scientist, but I'd be surprised if muscle strength is directly related to muscle bulk.


I think it may also be a muscle density thing.


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FlyingGreg wrote:
Knowing how John and Pete work, I agree. They wouldn't draft a guy for a need position with significant injury concerns.


Well, they did draft Walter Thurmond and trade a pick for a very unhealthy Leon Washington, and they were no more or less of a need than Williams.

Maybe Williams' knee holds up, but he was a 1st-2nd round talent depending on who you asked (I would have said 1st- as a NT), and guys with that kind of talent and track record don't fall to the 5th round because they have short arms. Anyone who believes that, especially for a nose tackle type, is just being silly.

Seattle could have taken Williams in the 2nd, but didn't. They could have taken him in the 3rd, but didn't. They could have taken him in the 4th, but didn't. They even passed on him to take a much lower rated player at the same position. In other words, I think it's pretty obvious that the knee concerns at least played a role in this. Without the knee concerns, Williams is probably not even making it to our #56 pick.


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They are extremely thorough at the combine. I think it's silly to just shrug off a player's injury concerns because John and Pete drafted him.

That said, we seem to have the best strength and conditioning staff in the NFL. If anyone can strengthen his legs and support that knee, it's our guys.


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People have several times mentioned the specter of Marcus Tubbs, whose dominance lasted for one season. If I recall, Tubbs was not known for his work ethic, and I would guess that he was not as devoted to conditioning his legs as Williams. Time will tell, but as Kearly had mentioned in a previous post, if we get 3-4 good years from Tha Monstar, he'll be a fifth round steal.


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Man I really hope that his knees don't hold him back anymore, I really want to see what he can do for our team.

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They are extremely thorough at the combine. I think it's silly to just shrug off a player's injury concerns because John and Pete drafted him.

That said, we seem to have the best strength and conditioning staff in the NFL. If anyone can strengthen his legs and support that knee, it's our guys.


...and our strength and conditioning staff can only make a difference if he uses them. Instead, he's in Australia tumbling loader tires around. DUMB!


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mr kearly,

and trade a pick for a very unhealthy Leon Washington

no disrespect, but did you think the leon Washington was a bad trade?

i'm no expert, but I was exited by what could be when we got him. and I believe he delivered. I understand why they did it but I was sad to see him go.

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Man I really hope that his knees don't hold him back anymore, I really want to see what he can do for our team.


Can you explain. You seem like this has been a major issue for him in the past.

He hurt his knee in the 3rd QTR of the SEC Championship, came back in the 4th QTR of that game. Had an MRI, had a few weeks of recovery, came back was able to practice with team when post-season practices began (without non-contact) jersey, and played vs Notre Dame in the BCS.

Smartly, of course he had his knee scoped at the end of the season in which he declined invitation to the Senior Bowl and only participated in the Bench Press at the Combine. He was recovered enough by his Pro Day to post an outstanding 4.92 40 at 323 pounds.

Since joining the Seahawks, I've read nothing on the Seahawks holding him back in practice because of his knees, I've only heard positives things about both Defensive Tackles but nothing negative on Jesse Williams' knees... and the Seahawks are giving Jesse Williams first crack at Branch's spot pretty much telling him that its his job to lose. Do what you do well and its his.

Even allowing the Williams to practice on his own in Australia, tells me that the Seahawks are very confident about William's medical concerns. Sure they'll monitor the knee has a pre-caution but I don't think these issues need to continue to be overblown until Williams actually has an issue with it that's worth talking about.

So far since his injury, there hasn't been any complications other than in the draft. But this is a copy cat vs take a chance league... Majority of the teams could have a medical red flag on Williams, has more teams passed on him, the other half are thinking there must be something really wrong with this guy, so they pass as well, and this continues until one team think he is worth the chance.

Seahawks were that team.

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Man I really hope that his knees don't hold him back anymore, I really want to see what he can do for our team.


Can you explain. You seem like this has been a major issue for him in the past.

He hurt his knee in the 3rd QTR of the SEC Championship, came back in the 4th QTR of that game. Had an MRI, had a few weeks of recovery, came back was able to practice with team when post-season practices began (without non-contact) jersey, and played vs Notre Dame in the BCS.

Smartly, of course he had his knee scoped at the end of the season in which he declined invitation to the Senior Bowl and only participated in the Bench Press at the Combine. He was recovered enough by his Pro Day to post an outstanding 4.92 40 at 323 pounds.

Since joining the Seahawks, I've read nothing on the Seahawks holding him back in practice because of his knees, I've only heard positives things about both Defensive Tackles but nothing negative on Jesse Williams' knees... and the Seahawks are giving Jesse Williams first crack at Branch's spot pretty much telling him that its his job to lose. Do what you do well and its his.

Even allowing the Williams to practice on his own in Australia, tells me that the Seahawks are very confident about William's medical concerns. Sure they'll monitor the knee has a pre-caution but I don't think these issues need to continue to be overblown until Williams actually has an issue with it that's worth talking about.

So far since his injury, there hasn't been any complications other than in the draft. But this is a copy cat vs take a chance league... Majority of the teams could have a medical red flag on Williams, has more teams passed on him, the other half are thinking there must be something really wrong with this guy, so they pass as well, and this continues until one team think he is worth the chance.

Seahawks were that team.


I'm just talking about the knee issues that occurred recently, in the championship game, and resulted in his drop in the draft, if is as big of a concern as teams deemed, I hope he can over come it and perform very well for us which I fully expect him to do. I know that is it wasn't something that has plagued him his entire career, I just hope that it isn't as bad as some teams seemed to believe and he can come out and prove the teams that passed him up that they made a mistake.

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