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What If the Seahawks lose the first game against the Panthers?
Big deal. It's still the Super Bowl season. 0-1 means nothing. 26%  26%  [ 34 ]
It would be a shock. I won't lie. I expect this team to start 1-0. 64%  64%  [ 82 ]
Not sure how I would feel. Ambivalent? 10%  10%  [ 13 ]
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I'll be shocked, but i won't fly off the handle like 98% of .net will.

Good point, my jaw will be on the floor, but it is way too early to let one loss determine the outcome of the season.


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Here's our 10AM east coast road schedule:
@ Carolina
@ Houston
@ Indianapolis
@ Atlanta
@ NYG

Historically, west coast teams on the east coast at 10AM only win 22% of their games. On average, we should win ONE of these games, going 1-4. A playoff caliber team should at least go 2-3. An extremely dominant team might go 3-2. In 2011, when SF went 13-3, they squeaked out two of their 10AM east coast games against an 8-8 Philly team and a 9-7 Bengal team by a combined 6 points. Last year in their only 10AM east coast game, they drubbed a lowly NYJ club. Yeah, that's right, we play more 10AM east coast games than SF played the last two years combined. Way to try to keep a good team down NFL.

We don't play any scrub teams on the road at 10AM this year. Not one of those teams is as bad as the three teams SF played in the past three years. Winning 2 of those 5 will be hard, but not impossible. Win 3 and I think it will show this team is the Super Bowl favorite. Of all those teams, Carolina is the most beatable IMO. So if we lose that game, we're still a playoff team, but it won't bode well for us taking 2 of the next 4 10AM games. I think we beat Carolina, we beat Indy, but Houston, Atlanta and the Gints will all be tough ones to win. I think we still make the playoffs if we lose to Carolina, but I don't think, with SF's easy road schedule, that we win the division.

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The opener is a HUGE game. With the 49ers coming into town in Week #2, we really don't want to start 0-1 and have lots of extra pressure to win that one. Conversely, it's possible the 49ers head into that game at 0-1 as well as they play the Packers in Week #1 so who knows. It would be great to hang 0-2 on them out of the gate. As much as we like to rub the Whiners fans noses in the crap of that 42-13 ownage last December, come this season it means nothing. The one thing to feel strongly about is C Link will be rocking, it's our home opener, it's SNF, and I think our defense will really handle the Niners without Crabtree.

Playing in Carolina at 10 am, most likely in considerable heat and humidity, is not going to be an easy task. We were lucky to get out of there last season with a win, although our offense was still clunking along. If Newton would have thrown an easy pass to an open receiver, we would have last that game.

I wouldn't be surprised if we lost in Carolina, but I agree this place would be a Carnival of Kneejerk Catastrophe.

Every week this season is truly huge. We MUST win the West, if not get HFA. That was our script during the 2005 season of glory. I'd much rather have two home games to win to get to the Super Bowl instead of having to go on the road again.

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SalishHawkFan wrote:
Here's our 10AM east coast road schedule:
@ Carolina
@ Houston
@ Indianapolis
@ Atlanta
@ NYG

Historically, west coast teams on the east coast at 10AM only win 22% of their games. On average, we should win ONE of these games, going 1-4. A playoff caliber team should at least go 2-3. An extremely dominant team might go 3-2. In 2011, when SF went 13-3, they squeaked out two of their 10AM east coast games against an 8-8 Philly team and a 9-7 Bengal team by a combined 6 points. Last year in their only 10AM east coast game, they drubbed a lowly NYJ club. Yeah, that's right, we play more 10AM east coast games than SF played the last two years combined. Way to try to keep a good team down NFL.

We don't play any scrub teams on the road at 10AM this year. Not one of those teams is as bad as the three teams SF played in the past three years. Winning 2 of those 5 will be hard, but not impossible. Win 3 and I think it will show this team is the Super Bowl favorite. Of all those teams, Carolina is the most beatable IMO. So if we lose that game, we're still a playoff team, but it won't bode well for us taking 2 of the next 4 10AM games. I think we beat Carolina, we beat Indy, but Houston, Atlanta and the Gints will all be tough ones to win. I think we still make the playoffs if we lose to Carolina, but I don't think, with SF's easy road schedule, that we win the division.

I see Carolina as must win and a split between Houston and Indianapolis and Atlanta and NYG as the best case scenerio but less than likely. More likely is 2-3 and we must win the Thursday and Monday games against the Cardinals and Rams that would leave us at 4-4 maybe 5-3 on the road and that should be enough for at least the number 2 seed and with 1 home game and roll the dice in the NFC championship.

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SalishHawkFan wrote:
Here's our 10AM east coast road schedule:
@ Carolina
@ Houston
@ Indianapolis
@ Atlanta
@ NYG

Historically, west coast teams on the east coast at 10AM only win 22% of their games. On average, we should win ONE of these games, going 1-4. A playoff caliber team should at least go 2-3. An extremely dominant team might go 3-2. In 2011, when SF went 13-3, they squeaked out two of their 10AM east coast games against an 8-8 Philly team and a 9-7 Bengal team by a combined 6 points. Last year in their only 10AM east coast game, they drubbed a lowly NYJ club. Yeah, that's right, we play more 10AM east coast games than SF played the last two years combined. Way to try to keep a good team down NFL.

We don't play any scrub teams on the road at 10AM this year. Not one of those teams is as bad as the three teams SF played in the past three years. Winning 2 of those 5 will be hard, but not impossible. Win 3 and I think it will show this team is the Super Bowl favorite. Of all those teams, Carolina is the most beatable IMO. So if we lose that game, we're still a playoff team, but it won't bode well for us taking 2 of the next 4 10AM games. I think we beat Carolina, we beat Indy, but Houston, Atlanta and the Gints will all be tough ones to win. I think we still make the playoffs if we lose to Carolina, but I don't think, with SF's easy road schedule, that we win the division.


Good thoughts. I, for one, think the Giants are very beatable.

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Losing a road opener is never a shock. I think we're the better team and are capable of winning, but a loss at the first game on the other side of the country wouldn't be a huge deal, I don't think.

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Losing a road opener is never a shock. I think we're the better team and are capable of winning, but a loss at the first game on the other side of the country wouldn't be a huge deal, I don't think.

It didn't slow down the '05 team which looked very poor in their road opener at Jax. I'm with this - though wouldn't be thrilled either.

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For the love of everything holy, the game kicks off at 1:00 local time in Carolina, not 10:00 am. It is only 10:00 am where most of you are. Arrrrggghhh.!!! (Pulls more hair out...)

Earliness has nothing to do with it you goofballs. And I don't want to hear any freaking stats, so spare me.

I hope we lose the first game only for the purposes of backing-off the media hype, and allowing the team to know what it feels like early on. Then they can settle in and go about kicking heiney the rest of the way.

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One thing would be needed, a cage around Seahawks. Net to protect the members from the 49ers fans wanting to have a pound of flesh.



Are you kidding? They are more likely to lose week one than we are. The packers are taking them out in week one. I would say there is a very fair chance that week two is a battle of two 0-1 teams for our home opener and by "very fair" I mean 30-35%.

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For the love of everything holy, the game kicks off at 1:00 local time in Carolina, not 10:00 am. It is only 10:00 am where most of you are. Arrrrggghhh.!!! (Pulls more hair out...)

Earliness has nothing to do with it you goofballs. And I don't want to hear any freaking stats, so spare me.


So, are you of the mind that the concepts of jetlag and body clocks are complete fabrications? Genuinely curious. You tell us not to quote you the stats, but let's face it, the stats undeniably demonstrate that west coast teams perform poorly at 10:00 AM PST (or 1:00 PM EST). I'm not sure why you're so outraged at people bringing up the idea that 10:00 AM games are tough when both the stats and our eyeballs back it up.


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I think a lot of people are underestimating the Panthers... Do I think they're a playoff team, no. But it wouldn't surprise me if SEA lost (tough road opener environment).

Week 1 & 2:

I think the most likely scenario is the SEA win both @ Carolina and vs. the 49ers... They start 2-0. The Niners win at home vs. the Pack, but lose at SEA. Rams win at home vs. the Cardinals and lose in ATL; and the Cardinals lose at the Rams and win at home vs. the Lions...

SEA: 2-0
SF: 1-1
STL: 1-1
ARI: 1-1

Weeks 3-5:

SEA: Jaguars (W), @ Texans (L), @ Colts (L)
SF: Colts (W), @ Rams TNF (L), Texans SNF (W)
STL: @ Cowboys (L), 49ers (W), Jaguars (W)
ARI: @ Saints (L), @ Bucs (L), Panthers (W)

SEA: 3-2
SF: 3-2
STL: 3-2
ARI: 2-3

Weeks 6-8

SEA: Titans (W), @ Arizona TNF (W), @ Rams MNF (L)
SF: Arizona (W), @ Titans (W), @ Jaguars - London (W)
STL: @ Texans (L), @ Panthers (L), Seahawks MNF (W)
ARI: @ 49ers (L), Seahawks TNF (L), Falcons (L)

SF: 6-2
SEA: 5-3
STL: 4-4
ARI: 2-6

Weeks 9-11

SEA: Bucs (W), @ Falcons (L), Vikings (W)
SF: Bye, Panthers (W), @ Saints (L)
STL: Titans (W), @ Colts (L), Bye
ARI: Bye, Texans (L), @ Jaguars (W)

SF: 7-3
SEA: 7-4
STL: 5-5
ARI: 3-7

Weeks 12-14

SEA: Bye, Saints MNF (W), @ 49ers (L)
SF: @ Redskins MNF (L), Rams (W), Seahawks (W)
STL: Bears (W), @49ers (L), @ Cardinals (W)
ARI: Colts (L), @ Eagles (L), Rams (L)

SF: 9-4
SEA: 8-5
STL: 7-6
ARI: 3-10

Weeks 15-17

SEA: @ NYG (L), Cardinals (W), Rams (W)
SF: @ Bucs (W), Falcons MNF (W), @ Cardinals (W)
STL: Saints (W), Bucs (W), @ Seahawks (L)
ARI: @ Titans (L), @ Seahawks (L), 49ers (L)

SF: 12-4 - 2nd Seed
SEA: 10-6 - 5th Seed
STL: 9-7
ARI: 3-13

The Niners' away schedule is so much better than the Seahawks... :snack:


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I think a lot of people are underestimating the Panthers... Do I think they're a playoff team, no. But it wouldn't surprise me if SEA lost (tough road opener environment).

Week 1 & 2:

I think the most likely scenario is the SEA win both @ Carolina and vs. the 49ers... They start 2-0. The Niners win at home vs. the Pack, but lose at SEA. Rams win at home vs. the Cardinals and lose in ATL; and the Cardinals lose at the Rams and win at home vs. the Lions...

SEA: 2-0
SF: 1-1
STL: 1-1
ARI: 1-1

Weeks 3-5:

SEA: Jaguars (W), @ Texans (L), @ Colts (L)
SF: Colts (W), @ Rams TNF (L), Texans SNF (W)
STL: @ Cowboys (L), 49ers (W), Jaguars (W)
ARI: @ Saints (L), @ Bucs (L), Panthers (W)

SEA: 3-2
SF: 3-2
STL: 3-2
ARI: 2-3

Weeks 6-8

SEA: Titans (W), @ Arizona TNF (W), @ Rams MNF (L)
SF: Arizona (W), @ Titans (W), @ Jaguars - London (W)
STL: @ Texans (L), @ Panthers (L), Seahawks MNF (W)
ARI: @ 49ers (L), Seahawks TNF (L), Falcons (L)

SF: 6-2
SEA: 5-3
STL: 4-4
ARI: 2-6

Weeks 9-11

SEA: Bucs (W), @ Falcons (L), Vikings (W)
SF: Bye, Panthers (W), @ Saints (L)
STL: Titans (W), @ Colts (L), Bye
ARI: Bye, Texans (L), @ Jaguars (W)

SF: 7-3
SEA: 7-4
STL: 5-5
ARI: 3-7

Weeks 12-14

SEA: Bye, Saints MNF (W), @ 49ers (L)
SF: @ Redskins MNF (L), Rams (W), Seahawks (W)
STL: Bears (W), @49ers (L), @ Cardinals (W)
ARI: Colts (L), @ Eagles (L), Rams (L)

SF: 9-4
SEA: 8-5
STL: 7-6
ARI: 3-10

Weeks 15-17

SEA: @ NYG (L), Cardinals (W), Rams (W)
SF: @ Bucs (W), Falcons MNF (W), @ Cardinals (W)
STL: Saints (W), Bucs (W), @ Seahawks (L)
ARI: @ Titans (L), @ Seahawks (L), 49ers (L)

SF: 12-4 - 2nd Seed
SEA: 10-6 - 5th Seed
STL: 9-7
ARI: 3-13

The Niners' away schedule is so much better than the Seahawks... :snack:

That's some nice koolaid you be drinkin'.....our road schedule is hard but let's not get ridiculous it's more likely....

Seattle 12-4
SF 11-5
Lambs 8-8
Cards 6-10

49ers are no better than last year and Crabtree's loss will hurt. Seattle is better than last year. The Rams are NOT going to sneak up on anybody this year and their WR corps is too young. And Carson Palmer is light years ahead of anything the Cards had last year and they do get their Tackle back and they got that G Cooper or Womack forget which so that OL should be better.

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Winning any game in the NFL is hard.

Winning on the road is even harder

Winning on the road against an above average team in their season opener is even harder


We have built a team that has the potential to compete and win this game but by no means is it a sure thing. Four of our first five games are going to be a challenge.


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Agreed, that's why the game is about as important as a week 1 game can be from a tone setting perspective. It won't kill the season if we lose but it sure would set us on the right foot for that Houston/Indianapolis pairing and from there the ball can really get rolling if it goes right.

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That's some nice koolaid you be drinkin'.....our road schedule is hard but let's not get ridiculous it's more likely....

Seattle 12-4
SF 11-5
Lambs 8-8
Cards 6-10

49ers are no better than last year and Crabtree's loss will hurt. Seattle is better than last year. The Rams are NOT going to sneak up on anybody this year and their WR corps is too young. And Carson Palmer is light years ahead of anything the Cards had last year and they do get their Tackle back and they got that G Cooper or Womack forget which so that OL should be better.


You may be right about the Cardinals, but I think you're not giving the Rams enough credit. Still, the road games...

SEA: @ Panthers 10am, @ Texans 10am, @ Colts 10am, @ Cardinals TNF, @ Rams MNF, @ Falcons 10am, @ Niners 1pm, @ NYG 10am

There really isn't any gimmes there. The easiest opponent (Arizona) is on a Thursday, and statistically, road teams on TNF games are bad. I think you guys win one of the Texans / Colts / Falcons / Giants games, even if I put all of those games as loses above.

SF: @ Seahawks SNF, @ Rams TNF, @ Titans 1pm, @ Jaguars (London 10am), @ Saints 1pm, @ Redskins MNF, @ Bucs 10am, @ Cardinals 1pm

Titans and Jags should be gimmes, I doubt they win @ SEA or @ STL, but I think they can win 1 or 2 of the Bucs / Saints / Redskins games

Essentially, for two good teams, our away schedule gives us another 2 wins, and we get 1 less home win than you guys...


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NinerBuff wrote:
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That's some nice koolaid you be drinkin'.....our road schedule is hard but let's not get ridiculous it's more likely....

Seattle 12-4
SF 11-5
Lambs 8-8
Cards 6-10

49ers are no better than last year and Crabtree's loss will hurt. Seattle is better than last year. The Rams are NOT going to sneak up on anybody this year and their WR corps is too young. And Carson Palmer is light years ahead of anything the Cards had last year and they do get their Tackle back and they got that G Cooper or Womack forget which so that OL should be better.


You may be right about the Cardinals, but I think you're not giving the Rams enough credit. Still, the road games...

SEA: @ Panthers 10am, @ Texans 10am, @ Colts 10am, @ Cardinals TNF, @ Rams MNF, @ Falcons 10am, @ Niners 1pm, @ NYG 10am

There really isn't any gimmes there. The easiest opponent (Arizona) is on a Thursday, and statistically, road teams on TNF games are bad. I think you guys win one of the Texans / Colts / Falcons / Giants games, even if I put all of those games as loses above.

SF: @ Seahawks SNF, @ Rams TNF, @ Titans 1pm, @ Jaguars (London 10am), @ Saints 1pm, @ Redskins MNF, @ Bucs 10am, @ Cardinals 1pm

Titans and Jags should be gimmes, I doubt they win @ SEA or @ STL, but I think they can win 1 or 2 of the Bucs / Saints / Redskins games

Essentially, for two good teams, our away schedule gives us another 2 wins, and we get 1 less home win than you guys...

I don't worry about New Orleans (bad defense and Ryan's scheme takes serious time to learn and it's a MNF we are locks on that night home or away just look it up) knowing that we take the Rams in StL because MNF, the game I worry about is the Cards on Thurs because the road usually loses those games no matter what. I am in disagreement with most here in thinking Houston will be our victory in the Houston/Indy pair but either would serve and going by the stats Indy's defense is worse.......NYG is beatable and well Atlanta.....we should have won last year so that should be an interesting game that if one week later would be a flex game for sure.

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Buff. You missed the part where you lose to the Pack in week one. No way in Hell you beat them three consecutive times and without Crabtree.

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Buff. You missed the part where you lose to the Pack in week one. No way in Hell you beat them three consecutive times and without Crabtree.


2012 Week 1: 7 catches, 76 yds, 0 TDs (Alex Smith)
2013 Divisional Round: 9 catches, 119 yds, 2 TDs (Colin Kaepernick)

The story line with Crabtree will definitely be a big one... But Vernon was really a non-factor until the NFCCG with Kaep. Plus the addition of Anquan will alleviate some of the loss. But there's no way around losing your best receiving option. I do find it interesting that Vegas didn't move our line for SB favorites (in fact, Las Vegas Hotel and Casino, LVH, actually dropped the odds from 6-1 down to 5-1... http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/6/25/4 ... s-division) and we stayed at 11.5 wins after the Crabtree injury.

Interestingly, with Gronk injuries and Hernandez's date with the big house, the Pats didn't move either.

Division odds:

SF: 5/6
SEA: 11/10
STL: 10/1
ARI: 30/1

Now, 5/6 and 11/10 are really close and Vegas is in the business of making $$ not necessarily picking the winners. They want even $$ on both sides. Still, it is interesting that losing the #1 WR didn't change the numbers, and in fact, actually improved the line.


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It's all about getting the money to both sides not about the actual odds of winning so pretty irrelevant.

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Stop wasting our time with stupid questions. What good does that do?

That is an irrelevant, hypothetical question because there is no way in hell the Seahawks are going to lose that game or the next one.

A better question would be how much are the Seahawks going to win by in the first game.
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For the love of everything holy, the game kicks off at 1:00 local time in Carolina, not 10:00 am. It is only 10:00 am where most of you are. Arrrrggghhh.!!! (Pulls more hair out...)

Earliness has nothing to do with it you goofballs. And I don't want to hear any freaking stats, so spare me.


So, are you of the mind that the concepts of jetlag and body clocks are complete fabrications? Genuinely curious. You tell us not to quote you the stats, but let's face it, the stats undeniably demonstrate that west coast teams perform poorly at 10:00 AM PST (or 1:00 PM EST). not sure why you're so outraged at people bringing up the idea that 10:00 AM games are tough when both the stats and our eyeballs back it up.


So, do you think Chuck Norris can't kick the same guy's ass at 8:00am as he can at 1:00 in the afternoon? If he lost the fight in the morning, and won at 1:00pm, would he blame it on the time of day or on timezone differences? Nope. He is a finely-tuned fighting machine no matter where he is at or what time it is.

The team is from Seattle, and because the sun runs east to west, the clock is different. The only difference is what time you go to sleep the night before, and if the crowd screams when you are on offense, or when you are on defense.

Pro athlete? Train correctly. Sleep correctly. Eat correctly. Get good advice (when you can) and make sure you wear the correct size shoes. Follow the rules. When the whistle blows you will be ready to play or you will be replaced. Doesn't matter where the little hand and the big hand are on a clock, it is where that big yellow orb is in the sky is that is important.

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I've been saying for months that the Panthers game scares the shit out of me.


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If we are going to seriously contend for a Super Bowl, home field advantage will be key. Look at our schedule, we just can't afford to drop games to sub-par or mediocre teams. Last year was the "growing year" in my eyes, the year when we struggled against inferior teams like Detroit and Miami. And you know what, those games are what ultimately cost us a trip to the NFC championship and possibly the Super Bowl. This year MUST be the year where we capitalize on our potential and allow no surprises or slips. It's going to be dead heat between us and the 49ers down the stretch. So yeah, a loss to the Panthers would be shocking.


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I'm sure this place would melt down, but it's a long season and an early loss at 10AM to a pretty solid Panthers team would not be the end of the world. This is the Any Given Sunday league.

We lost at Arizona last year. That loss shocked me. Yet we ended up 30 seconds (or a healthy Clem) away from the NFC Championship game.

Week 1 doesn't make or break your season.

Good post. But I also can't help but to see the flip side... we finished last regular season one win away from the division title and a home playoff game. A week one loss to a team we should fairly easily handle would put us behind the 8-ball.

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I feel like some people are underrating the Panthers here, though if they are still in the position of running guys like Captain Munnerlyn out there at corner, Seattle should have a better team that wins on a neutral field seven times out of ten or so.

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I wouldn't be surprised even a little bit if we lost that first week. And i'll be even less concerned then surprised. We always seem to start off the year kind of slow. No big deal.

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ok.... i'm convinced.... we're going 0-16.... :sarcasm_off:

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I'd be in full meltdown mode........but really when am I not lol.

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I'd be in full meltdown mode........but really when am I not lol.


Man, all you guys gotta do is watch Blitzer in the Game Day Chat, he leaves when he's nervous, i just sit and laugh at it.

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I wrote six weeks ago that there was a better than average chance that we would lose to the Panthers in Week 1. For some reason, we do not play well in our Week 1 Road game. Even in 2005, we lost to the Jags in Week 1!!! Yet, in 2006, we beat the Lions in Detroit in Week 1.


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For the love of everything holy, the game kicks off at 1:00 local time in Carolina, not 10:00 am. It is only 10:00 am where most of you are. Arrrrggghhh.!!! (Pulls more hair out...)

Earliness has nothing to do with it you goofballs. And I don't want to hear any freaking stats, so spare me.


So, are you of the mind that the concepts of jetlag and body clocks are complete fabrications? Genuinely curious. You tell us not to quote you the stats, but let's face it, the stats undeniably demonstrate that west coast teams perform poorly at 10:00 AM PST (or 1:00 PM EST). I'm not sure why you're so outraged at people bringing up the idea that 10:00 AM games are tough when both the stats and our eyeballs back it up.


Yeah, I love it when people try the "and I don't want here about yadda, yadda" in an effort to negate objective, factual info. It's a lame effort to get in the last word and a laughable way to try to make a case.


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We didn't lose any game last year by more than 7 points, and are a better team with our draft and FA aquisitions plus a full off-season for Dangeruss to work with offense. 12-4.


Hey, I won't argue against any positive statements about Dangeruss :grin: But I'm at odds with saying we are a better team on anything but paper until we see how all of the new pieces -lots if changes in our D rotation and people who need to recover from unjury- play together.

What gives me a warm fuzzy is that we have equalizers on both sides of the ball in Dangeruss and the LOB, so hopefully that will be enough to win until the team starts hitting on all cylinders. You can't expect them to be a well-oiled machine at game one.


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We aint losin to no damn Panthers regardless of location and time! Get a grip! :cool:


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Seahawks started their 2005 Superbowl run with a 0-2 road record.

It would suck losing to the Panthers but I would still remain fairly optimistic, 15 more games to play after that.

The NFL certainly didn't do the Seahawks any favors when making their schedule but its part of the business, we have a relatively young team, facing challenges and adversity should only make them better in the long run.

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Damon Bruce would always say, anything that happens week 1 will be overreacted to. Good or bad.

In this instance, I'm really hoping good. However, the biggest factor that we cannot account yet is the eye test. If the team lost, how did they look losing? Did the Panthers pull off a great victory, or did the Seahawks muff their season debut?

In my book, the likelihood of this team losing may be significant, but likelihood of them playing undisciplined, bad football is very small.
Thus, I fear nothing. I have faith in the work ethic and ability of our guys. Win or lose, they will show up, they'll leave it all out on the field. Go 'Hawks.


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So, are you of the mind that the concepts of jetlag and body clocks are complete fabrications? Genuinely curious. You tell us not to quote you the stats, but let's face it, the stats undeniably demonstrate that west coast teams perform poorly at 10:00 AM PST (or 1:00 PM EST). not sure why you're so outraged at people bringing up the idea that 10:00 AM games are tough when both the stats and our eyeballs back it up.


So, do you think Chuck Norris can't kick the same guy's ass at 8:00am as he can at 1:00 in the afternoon? If he lost the fight in the morning, and won at 1:00pm, would he blame it on the time of day or on timezone differences? Nope. He is a finely-tuned fighting machine no matter where he is at or what time it is.

The team is from Seattle, and because the sun runs east to west, the clock is different. The only difference is what time you go to sleep the night before, and if the crowd screams when you are on offense, or when you are on defense.

Pro athlete? Train correctly. Sleep correctly. Eat correctly. Get good advice (when you can) and make sure you wear the correct size shoes. Follow the rules. When the whistle blows you will be ready to play or you will be replaced. Doesn't matter where the little hand and the big hand are on a clock, it is where that big yellow orb is in the sky is that is important.

Bruce Lee killed Chuck Norris. It was 10AM Pacific time.

Pro athlete is exactly the point. The difference between these athletes seems great, but in actuality, it is very small. Thus, any given sunday. Factor in ANY advantage that is spread out over the entire team and it gets magnified.

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Wilson is not going to be held by the hand game one, Panthers are going to be fired up We will see how they adapt to Shulas offense, I think our defense is going to have an advantage out of the gate. Newton will be thinking instead of playing. Something he doesn't seem to be good at. If we can jump on them I don't think the Panthers will be able to play from behind well, in fact our DB's will get a few pics with him forcing things trying to make stuff happen.

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It's all about getting the money to both sides not about the actual odds of winning so pretty irrelevant.


This isn't really true. Yes the bookmakers are hoping to get close to 50/50 money so that they get a guaranteed profit, but the win percentages across the league reflect a very direct correlation with point spreads. The spreads get governed by the betting market, the biggest money comes in from the professional gamblers, and that market is obviously a lot more objective than any individual fanbase is.


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To answer the initial question: I won't be shocked at all. I think we win the game more often than not, but I personally hate that we drew this game as an opener. Panthers are tough and statistically were far superior to their record last year. Their late-season blowout of Atlanta wasn't that shocking for that reason.

It's a difficult first five game stretch to start the year (aside from the cupcake in week three), and I'll be happy to come out of it with a 3-2 record.


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