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 Post subject: Re: hawks move to #1 on NFL.com rankings
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:48 pm 
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prob for KC is that denver is going to be good and the chargers should bounce back.

However I've always thought alex smith was better than most people did and I think he will be better than most people think in KC. I could see him having a pro-bowl caliber year with some of those offensive weapons.


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I see on the NFL's facebook post, that quite a few people are saying "packers #1"


No run game, lost one of their better receivers, and mediocre defense. Way too many holes. If anything, Packers could be the team to plummet down the rankings this year.


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When we were on the top of this OFF-SEASON power poll most of you said that these things were pointless and just fluff to fill the void until pre-season started.

Now that you are on top and we are second it is suddenly a meaningful tool for judging a teams potential.

C'mon guys

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When we were on the top of this OFF-SEASON power poll most of you said that these things were pointless and just fluff to fill the void until pre-season started.

Now that you are on top and we are second it is suddenly a meaningful tool for judging a teams potential.

C'mon guys

Well, it's always just "some guy's" opinion - and I seriously doubt many picked the Ravens to win it all last year. That said, it is interesting to see how people view the off season changes and what the expectations / reputation is of a franchise moving forward into the next year. But yeah it doesn't mean anything in the long run.


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When we were on the top of this OFF-SEASON power poll most of you said that these things were pointless and just fluff to fill the void until pre-season started.

Now that you are on top and we are second it is suddenly a meaningful tool for judging a teams potential.

C'mon guys

Don't lump me into that I have made it clear that I think they're meaningless but I do think they are fun and a harmless way to pass the offseason.

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NinerLifer wrote:
When we were on the top of this OFF-SEASON power poll most of you said that these things were pointless and just fluff to fill the void until pre-season started.

Now that you are on top and we are second it is suddenly a meaningful tool for judging a teams potential.

C'mon guys


If you don't like the pro-Seahawks commentary from the fans on a Seahawks fan forum, we can show you the door.

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I see on the NFL's facebook post, that quite a few people are saying "packers #1"


No run game, lost one of their better receivers, and mediocre defense. Way too many holes. If anything, Packers could be the team to plummet down the rankings this year.


Eddie Lacy would argue with you about the notion they don't have a run game. 8)

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prob for KC is that denver is going to be good and the chargers should bounce back.

However I've always thought alex smith was better than most people did and I think he will be better than most people think in KC. I could see him having a pro-bowl caliber year with some of those offensive weapons.

Not sold is all and most in KC are of my opinion. They really do need a 2nd receiver to be somewhat of a threat. But I could be wrong and most of the fanbase here is pretty downtrodden at this point so they tend to see things more negatively than positively.

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NinerLifer wrote:
When we were on the top of this OFF-SEASON power poll most of you said that these things were pointless and just fluff to fill the void until pre-season started.

Now that you are on top and we are second it is suddenly a meaningful tool for judging a teams potential.

C'mon guys


Perhaps it has something to do with the superstar WR we picked up that is 25 years old, or the old veteran CB that was ranked slightly ahead of Richard Sherman as the best CB in the NFL last year by Pro Football Focus, or the moves we made to add more pass rushing power. Our weakest link on defense last year (nickel/slot coverage) is suddenly a strength, our pass rush is pretty much guaranteed to be improved at least a little, and our offense that was en fuego the last half of the season picked up the most dynamic, creative receiver in the league.

We were ranked 2nd-best team in the NFL before all of that. You honestly think we have any problem being ranked #1 now after the aforementioned? There's something to be said about fan hypocrisy, but don't pretend like you and all of your fan base doesn't do it, too. I remember you guys crying about how not everyone was picking you to go to the Super Bowl and win it when the playoffs came in Harbaugh's first year, and most of you wouldn't listen to reason about Alex Smith's lack of experience in the postseason.

Give us a break, NinerLifer. :roll:

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No kidding!
Let's all celebrate that we're #1 on some silly piece of paper. It does't mean squat. I'd rather we were ranked lower because: 1. Four teams made it further than us. 2. This is a new season and we haven't played a single game.


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No kidding!
Let's all celebrate that we're #1 on some silly piece of paper. It does't mean squat. I'd rather we were ranked lower because: 1. Four teams made it further than us. 2. This is a new season and we haven't played a single game.

Ranked lower or higher doesn't mean a thing except for YOUR personal comfort level. What I see is that right now in a vacuum we are better than Atlanta, San Francisco, Baltimore and New England (the teams that finished ahead of us last year). It's all meaningless and everything will sort itself out on the field soon enough.

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I can't decide if you some of you are just not ready to embrace the era of success that is upon us, or are just grumpy bastages to begin with.

Perhaps a mix of both?

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I think they should put this song next to every ranking of the seahawks. The butt hurt would flow nicely.


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FlyingGreg wrote:
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NFL preseason power rankings are about as useless as a 3rd nipple. If you don't believe me, just look at last year's preseason power rankings

http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings/_/year/2012/week/0

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... contenders

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1303 ... r-rankings


I wouldn't say "useless"...

In the ESPN poll, 5 of the top 6 teams made the playoffs and two reached the Super Bowl.

In the NFL.COM poll, 3 of the 4 top shelf teams made the playoffs.

In the Bleacher Report, 4 of the top 5 teams made the playoffs...but then again, it's Bleacher Report.



Harmless to us, I agree. I'm just worried about the players buying into all the hype. Pete's been great so far at preparation, but this is the 1st year where the team's expectations is Super Bowl. So I'm worried about this young team not letting the hype go to their heads.

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I can't decide if you some of you are just not ready to embrace the era of success that is upon us, or are just grumpy bastages to begin with.

Perhaps a mix of both?

;)


I think embracing the fact we now rock has to be done on a gradual basis in order to avoid any unforeseen complications. I mean, my heart stopped and re-started again four times during that game in Atlanta. That can't be good for you.

Hearing all the schmoozing we are getting from the media is kinda like we all just woke up one morning and all our girlfriends and wives magically transformed from a 6.5 into a 9. I find myself bathing and combing my hair just a little bit more lately...

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I can't decide if you some of you are just not ready to embrace the era of success that is upon us, or are just grumpy bastages to begin with.

Perhaps a mix of both?

;)


I think embracing the fact we now rock has to be done on a gradual basis in order to avoid any unforeseen complications. I mean, my heart stopped and re-started again four times during that game in Atlanta. That can't be good for you.

Hearing all the schmoozing we are getting from the media is kinda like we all just woke up one morning and all our girlfriends and wives magically transformed from a 6.5 into a 9. I find myself bathing and combing my hair just a little bit more lately...


Lol, true. Although I was strangely calm at the end of the Falcons game... honestly, I looked at my wife after Lynch scored and said, "there is too much time left and we have no pass rush". The whole house was going ape sh*t and I was just "damn, we were this close"....I just knew we couldn't stop them from getting into field goal position.

Alas, I think that game is going to be a HUGE motivator for this team that pushes them to the next level. You can tell they want to sand blast that memory.

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I can't decide if you some of you are just not ready to embrace the era of success that is upon us, or are just grumpy bastages to begin with.

Perhaps a mix of both?

;)


No grumpy bastard here. But I am a "show me first" kind of fan. I don't buy into hype, so to say we're in an "era of success" after one year of success where we didn't even make the conference finals is premature IMO.

I measure success by division/conference trophies and Super Bowl appearances, not pre-season power rankings and Vegas odds.

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No run game, lost one of their better receivers, and mediocre defense. Way too many holes. If anything, Packers could be the team to plummet down the rankings this year.


Eddie Lacy would argue with you about the notion they don't have a run game. 8)


Assuming that Eddie Lacy isn't Mark Ingram part II (by that I mean, ineffective in the NFL because Alabama had NFL talent playing against college teams on the O-line) and the Packers O-line suddenly stops being mediocre to awful in a way that would make this board go even more apoplectic about not drafting linemean.

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When we were on the top of this OFF-SEASON power poll most of you said that these things were pointless and just fluff to fill the void until pre-season started.

Now that you are on top and we are second it is suddenly a meaningful tool for judging a teams potential.

C'mon guys


If you don't like the pro-Seahawks commentary from the fans on a Seahawks fan forum, we can show you the door.

In the mean time...zip it. :16:

Wait a minute... aren't Niner fans here, not to glorify themselves, but to purely talk football? They wouldn't intend to veil insults. Surely, their presence and interaction improves the quality of this forum. Why would they need to be shown the door?
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I see on the NFL's facebook post, that quite a few people are saying "packers #1"


No run game, lost one of their better receivers, and mediocre defense. Way too many holes. If anything, Packers could be the team to plummet down the rankings this year.

Well if you subscribe to the theory that draft picks can help you have to figure Lacy and/or Franklin along with DuJuan Harris who actually was looking pretty good to finish the season you can see the Packers will likely improve there.
Losing Greg Jennings isn't as bad as it might seem, it opens the door for the other receivers to get more touches. Randall Cobb can ably fill the shoes of Jennings (who was out for half of last season).
11th ranked D last season. I don't think they will be top 3 but top 10 for certain and possibly top 5 with injured players back (hopefully not much in the way of injuries this year).
Where are you seeing the holes in this team? Where are the Packers weak?
They do have one of the toughest schedules this season but they are loaded with young talent. Really, please tell me where you think the Packers holes are?


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When we were on the top of this OFF-SEASON power poll most of you said that these things were pointless and just fluff to fill the void until pre-season started.

Now that you are on top and we are second it is suddenly a meaningful tool for judging a teams potential.

C'mon guys


Perhaps it has something to do with the superstar WR we picked up that is 25 years old, or the old veteran CB that was ranked slightly ahead of Richard Sherman as the best CB in the NFL last year by Pro Football Focus, or the moves we made to add more pass rushing power. Our weakest link on defense last year (nickel/slot coverage) is suddenly a strength, our pass rush is pretty much guaranteed to be improved at least a little, and our offense that was en fuego the last half of the season picked up the most dynamic, creative receiver in the league.

We were ranked 2nd-best team in the NFL before all of that. You honestly think we have any problem being ranked #1 now after the aforementioned? There's something to be said about fan hypocrisy, but don't pretend like you and all of your fan base doesn't do it, too. I remember you guys crying about how not everyone was picking you to go to the Super Bowl and win it when the playoffs came in Harbaugh's first year, and most of you wouldn't listen to reason about Alex Smith's lack of experience in the postseason.

Give us a break, NinerLifer. :roll:

Well here's another "outsiders" take:
If you're a fan of another team and you didn't worry about playing Seattle last year, after this year's acquisitions you should be a little more nervous.
I don't believe in all the hype either. Look what happened to the Eagles with the "dream team" but still - you take one part SB potential team and add one part top flight offensive weapon, one part seasoned vet DBack, one part solid contributors and one part draft. Mix it up and you can't help but think the Hawks are every bit the contender as any other top flight team and I'm not surprised at all to see them atop any preseason rankings.
If I were a troll I'd dismiss all of these quality additions but as a football fan you can't ignore the potential.


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This is a color writer whose dart happens to have landed on the right team this week. Next week he'll go back to being wrong.


Exactly. I am sure that we will see the Broncos on top eventually when some writer decides that Manning is aging and he will be extra motivated to win it all before he retires.

Heck...he might be this years Ray Lewis if the fix is really in as mentioned in that other thread LOL.

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He cites Crabtree's injury as the reason Seattle jumped over the niners. Although that is a huge injury, the Seahawks are poised to be the better team anyway. Without Harvin, the Seahawks averaged 34 points per game down the stretch last season. Adding Harvin just opens up the offense even more. Even if Harvin misses some games, the Seahawks are more than capable offensively.

I'm surprised there was no mention of the HUGE niner trade that brought Bolden to Frisco. Bolden is a good WR as long as he is the second or third guy. When he was asked by Baltimore to be their number one guy, he wasn't very productive. He is really good against the second or third best corners on a lot of teams, but he won't see those guys much with what the niners are going to be rolling out in their WR corps.


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This is a color writer whose dart happens to have landed on the right team this week. Next week he'll go back to being wrong.


I'll make fun of the people that do this again, even though it pisses a lot of people off. You should join in, it's fun.

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