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 Post subject: Re: Looks like Kaepernick is rated better than Wilson on B/R...
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:59 pm 
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I look at it this way: the Niners barely edged us for the division, then they went to the SB. Not only did they beat two teams, but they fell behind to the team we did, by damn near as much, and came back to win that game in dominant fashion. They deserve every accolade they get.

If I was a die hard Niners fan (well, I'd shoot myself in the head..) I'd be pissed at all the love the Seahawks are getting, and all the people picking the Hawks to win the division.

I don't remember the last time we've gotten this much attention, but it's past time for people to be picking every article that doesn't worship our players and eviscerate it.


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 Post subject: Re: Looks like Kaepernick is rated better than Wilson on B/R...
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Here are my thoughts on the article...


IT WAS SHIT.


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 Post subject: Re: Looks like Kaepernick is rated better than Wilson on B/R...
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 Post subject: Re: Looks like Kaepernick is rated better than Wilson on B/R...
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I expect the Niners hype, they went to the Super Bowl. Any media love they get is deserved. I just don't like the media putting distance between the Niners and Hawks. That half game division championship was everything. If the Niners are the 5 seed, they go to DC, take out the Skins, go to ATL, knock them off while the Hawks get a decimation match at home against GB with a healthy Clemons who doesn't get injured on FedEx grass. Bringing the Niners back to the scene of their last assault for the NFCCG.

That is the difference in that half game and media perception. For what it is worth, I think both the Niners and Hawks get a little too much love. That Kaepernick and Wilson do too. Neither has a second season to back up their success, but look to be poised for seriously good seasons. Sample size is pretty small.

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 Post subject: Re: Looks like Kaepernick is rated better than Wilson on B/R...
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To be fair, it was the Pats who exposed them in the second half....when Justin Smith got hurt.

I'm not trying to take something away from Wilson BTW...he had a great day...I'm just sayin that D fell apart when both Justin and Aldon got hurt. The secondary was forced to cover longer and got exposed. They were able to overcome it through most of the playoffs but it was just too much to overcome in the SB.

Nah, the 49ers got caught with their pants down with the big lead when the Patriots just started slinging it. I attribute that more to momentum shift than the Patriots exposing the SF Defense. Nothing against the Patriots because every Seahawks fan was rooting for them that night. But, Russell Wilson and the Seahawks were the team that truly exposed how to beat the 49ers from the start of the game through the finish. They were built to do so. The Patriots were not. They just played with nothing to lose because all seemed lost for them that night. I would also attribute that to Brady being Brady. Tough to stop that guy when he gets going. When SF was down big... they still couldn't do anything against the Seattle Defense, though they tried. That was the complete game recipe for how to beat the 49ers by a team that is most capable of doing so with a total team effort.

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Wow. :shock:

Really? OK...I guess thats ONE way to look at it. A bit self aggrandizing IMO, but whatevers clever.

REALLY! Here, is this any more readable? I didn't realize you couldn't read the font size. No need to put on those goofy glasses that make your eyes look so big.
Yes, Tom Brady is pretty good. Momentum is a huge thing. You must have saw that shift after the 2nd halftime of the Super Bowl. Anyway, sorry if I lost you. Wasn't trying to be clever. I'll try to remember that you've got pompous down, though.
Too, I'll try to remember you're vision impaired.

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 Post subject: Re: Looks like Kaepernick is rated better than Wilson on B/R...
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The funniest part of any article that has any mention of the Hawks or Niners is the number of Niner fans following up with some weak attack on how crappy the Seahawks are and the repeated "how many Super Bowls" line they throw out to any fan who makes a positive comment about their favorite team. I read some shit on NFL. Com about Kaeperstank being MVP. Niner fans come out in large numbers to even rip on Ravens fans.

Just post about any team, say something like "Go Packers" and watch how quickly the Whiner fans attack like a group of Pihrana. I swear, a Niner fan takes more pleasure in disrespecting other fans than enjoying the success of their own favorite team.

All I know is that they better be one kick ass team this year, because that fan base could be a flash-meltdown across the nation.

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 Post subject: Re: Looks like Kaepernick is rated better than Wilson on B/R...
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Well, to be fair... they were talking about the next Russell Wilson because he was drafted last year and in the 3rd round.


That's part of it, a small part of it.

Kaepernick wasn't a 1st rounder either.


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Well, to be fair... they were talking about the next Russell Wilson because he was drafted last year and in the 3rd round.


That's part of it, a small part of it.

Kaepernick wasn't a 1st rounder either.

Thanks. Yah, I know. If you go back, I didn't say that CK was a first rounder (and, in fact, I do believe I said 2nd round.) Not sure why that was brought up as a point?

In any case, I think perhaps you didn't quite understand what I meant. Not that it matters, because we essentially agree. No issue here. But, I don't think I explained my point very clearly... I just said what you quoted.

They're not going to provide commentary listing multiple examples to make their point about finding a draft value or draft steal at QB in later rounds (after the 1st or high 2nd). So, that's why they didn't say, "Teams are looking for the next RW or CW or ... " It gets too wordy and unnecessary. Part of it is that they chose the best example... Russell Wilson, of course + the fact that he was taken in the previous draft. That was my point. CK isn't on the same level when you consider intangibles... which is why they didn't bypass RW as the example and give the example from the previous year draft - CK in the 2nd round (#36 overall + they traded up from the #45 overall to draft him) which is in that range when teams are looking for a franchise QB. So, it wouldn't really make sense to say that teams are looking for the next CK b/c any team can use a high pick "looking" for a QB (and trading up into that early 2nd round range to get him.) It's a great feat to draft a Russell Wilson no matter what round, but when one considers he was had in the 3rd round (#75 overall, did not trade up - but almost took him in the 2nd round) - coupled with his accomplishments and forecasting his future (and the future of the team with him)... what team wouldn't want that? There are other QB's they could have used as an example... but, they used the obvious best choice example!

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 Post subject: Re: Looks like Kaepernick is rated better than Wilson on B/R...
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a Niner fan takes more pleasure in disrespecting other fans than enjoying the success of their own favorite team.

Sadly, this is so very true. Excellent observation. You hit the nail on the head with this statement. I don't mind limited dialog with Niner fans (but, usually their hijacking comments turn posts into mild smack that stay just this side of the shack.) Perhaps your quote should be posted as a warning at the top of the forum selection screen - or at least the main forum. Newcomers deserve to be fair warned + too, they need to realize that even though the main forum might look like a Seahawks and Niners forum, that wasn't the original intent.

And as a disclaimer to those who wish to immediately jump on such comments... no, I do not sweat Niner fans. There are chump fans from other teams, too. Not all fans are chumps, of course. But, as in the above quote (and loafoftatupu's further commentary on the matter in the full post) there is a chump-ness level that 49er fans seem to have attained. But, perhaps I digress. I only say this to be clear that I don't feel they are any threat. They certainly can be a nuisance, though. That's why I would be in favor of preserving (or rather reclaiming) the main forum SEAHAWKS and Seahawks FANS only. I don't go into the main forum looking to talk about CK incessantly. If I wanted to do that, I would more intuitively visit the NFL forum. I know I don't seem to have much agreement on that. Still, I wish to make the point. For example, I would much rather enjoy conversing with Seahawks fans about the upcoming season and during each glorious week without having to make a case to an incessant 49er fan that wishes to inject their team or certain player into the conversation. It's not a matter of me or anyone "fearing" 49er fans or any of that garbage... it's about not inviting a bunch of pest mosquitoes to fly around while we're sipping our ice tea in the pleasant evening. But alas, I believe it is me who misunderstands the intent of the "main" Seahawks forum.

An example of an expected or typical chump Niner fan statement to follow: "Ah, we're in your head!" :34853_doh: Ah... no.

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 Post subject: Re: Looks like Kaepernick is rated better than Wilson on B/R...
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You can't claim the main forum Seahawks fans only if folks keep bringing up 9ers stuff. Plus our guys said that they wanted to promote more non-Seahawks fans interaction

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You can't claim the main forum Seahawks fans only if folks keep bringing up 9ers stuff. Plus our guys said that they wanted to promote more non-Seahawks fans interaction


They did? :(

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You can't claim the main forum Seahawks fans only if folks keep bringing up 9ers stuff. Plus our guys said that they wanted to promote more non-Seahawks fans interaction

Thanks. Yah, like I said... I know it's not a popular opinion and I'm sure there's reasoning behind decisions made by those who run the site. I certainly don't intend to blow it out of proportion. I'm not on a mission or anything like that. Just an observation and a point to be made. Do you see Seahawk fans initiating posts about the Niners stuff in the main forum? When the OP is a bleacher report comparison of CK vs. RW... I think Seahawks fans are generally talking on the side of RW. But, those certainly open the door for Niner fans to come be incessant about their team and QB.

Let me ask you, though... in your estimation, do you think it limits that desired interaction if there is a designated forum for that? Is there some barrier that gets created that prevents non-Seahawks fans from doing their Seahawks talking in the NFL forum? To me, seems like that is the intent of "NFL Forum" (because even though some fans come into the main forum to genuinely discuss the Seahawks... usually there is at least a hint of their team as well (and in the case of division rivals, more so.) I'm sure that the reasoning is that for moderators purposes, anything exclusively Seahawks belongs in the main forum. Sometimes posts start that way and veer way off course. Seems that it might actually be easier to moderate the appropriateness of the content if Seahawks related topics could be brought up by non-fans in the NFL forum. My :twocents:

Though I brought it up, I'm not hung up about it. I trust those that are running it all they have a handle on everything. (Even if I didn't, who am I? It's not my site. I'm a privileged guest. So, I'm grateful to interact.) My comments are only intended to suggest what might be more pleasant for Seahawks fans. To me, that's a different perspective. I don't live in the greater Seattle area. (As you know), I live in Orlando. It's a treat for me to discuss Seahawks. So, it's somewhat disappointing when I go into the main forum and get into the types of conversations I can get here sometimes in person with others. (Though I'm looking for Seahawks fans in Central Florida. There's a start up Private High School Football program that has 3 Seahawks fans on their coaching staff. My wife and I are looking into that program for our middle son fall of 2014.) I don't know if any of those coaches post on .net (if so, PM me!) I've only met one of them in person.

Anyway, yes... I assumed what you said to be the case. Thanks again.

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Wow. :shock:

Really? OK...I guess thats ONE way to look at it. A bit self aggrandizing IMO, but whatevers clever.

REALLY! Here, is this any more readable? I didn't realize you couldn't read the font size. No need to put on those goofy glasses that make your eyes look so big.
Yes, Tom Brady is pretty good. Momentum is a huge thing. You must have saw that shift after the 2nd halftime of the Super Bowl. Anyway, sorry if I lost you. Wasn't trying to be clever. I'll try to remember that you've got pompous down, though.
Too, I'll try to remember you're vision impaired.


LOL.

Yeah....my issue wasn't that I couldn't read...it was that you seem to be attributing WAY to much credit to the Seahawks for "exposing" the 49ers. You know...the Self Aggrandizing part.

No worries. Just lookin forward to week 2.


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I have always thought non-Seahawks discussions should go into the NFL Forum and folks should be reminded not to go off-topic. People are just stubborn in their ways and tend to do what they want. Yes, our discussions about rivals and the like IMO would be better in the NFL Forum.

But as you state, one of our fans brought up this topic and surely he knew the discussion was not going to be one-sided. It was an open invitation to rival fans to stand up for their guy.

The things I see is we can start with any topic about a Seahawks player, someone will eventually pull up a comparison to our division rival and then off we go with Seahawks vs 9ers trash talk. Put up the season highlights, someone drools over the blowout of the 9ers.

I only hope the Rams don't catch folks with their pants down after all this fixating on the team that won the last 2 division crowns.

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You can't claim the main forum Seahawks fans only if folks keep bringing up 9ers stuff. Plus our guys said that they wanted to promote more non-Seahawks fans interaction


They did? :(


Non-Seahawk sure, but NOT 9'ers fans. They're the fricken worst... They're so ignorant and obnoxious that I can't help but imagine everything they write being said in a Fran Drescher/Rosie Perez voice. They're like nails on a chalkboard. "Blabity blabity Justin Smith was hurt blabity blabity Kaepernicking isn't douchy blabity blabity I know 7 foods that start with the letter Q Billy! hehehehe....." aaaaarrrrrggghh, makes me want to claw my eyes out!

AND they keep staring at my bulge...

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You can't claim the main forum Seahawks fans only if folks keep bringing up 9ers stuff. Plus our guys said that they wanted to promote more non-Seahawks fans interaction


They did? :(


Non-Seahawk sure, but NOT 9'ers fans. They're the fricken worst... They're so ignorant and obnoxious that I can't help but imagine everything they write being said in a Fran Drescher/Rosie Perez voice. They're like nails on a chalkboard. "Blabity blabity Justin Smith was hurt blabity blabity Kaepernicking isn't douchy blabity blabity I know 7 foods that start with the letter Q Billy! hehehehe....." aaaaarrrrrggghh, makes me want to claw my eyes out!

AND they keep staring at my bulge...


They also refuse to shower.

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Wow. :shock:

Really? OK...I guess thats ONE way to look at it. A bit self aggrandizing IMO, but whatevers clever.

REALLY! Here, is this any more readable? I didn't realize you couldn't read the font size. No need to put on those goofy glasses that make your eyes look so big.
Yes, Tom Brady is pretty good. Momentum is a huge thing. You must have saw that shift after the 2nd halftime of the Super Bowl. Anyway, sorry if I lost you. Wasn't trying to be clever. I'll try to remember that you've got pompous down, though.
Too, I'll try to remember you're vision impaired.


LOL.

Yeah....my issue wasn't that I couldn't read...it was that you seem to be attributing WAY to much credit to the Seahawks for "exposing" the 49ers. You know...the Self Aggrandizing part.

No worries. Just lookin forward to week 2.


Because Harbaugh has a history of vindicating losses? Like the Rams? Like the Giants? Like the Ravens? Good luck with that.


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LOL.

Yeah....my issue wasn't that I couldn't read...it was that you seem to be attributing WAY to much credit to the Seahawks for "exposing" the 49ers. You know...the Self Aggrandizing part.

No worries. Just lookin forward to week 2.


Because Harbaugh has a history of vindicating losses? Like the Rams? Like the Giants? Like the Ravens? Good luck with that.


No...but he sure has a history of beating Pete Carroll. :D

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ToC.

I have always thought non-Seahawks discussions should go into the NFL Forum and folks should be reminded not to go off-topic. People are just stubborn in their ways and tend to do what they want. Yes, our discussions about rivals and the like IMO would be better in the NFL Forum.

But as you state, one of our fans brought up this topic and surely he knew the discussion was not going to be one-sided. It was an open invitation to rival fans to stand up for their guy.

The things I see is we can start with any topic about a Seahawks player, someone will eventually pull up a comparison to our division rival and then off we go with Seahawks vs 9ers trash talk. Put up the season highlights, someone drools over the blowout of the 9ers.

I only hope the Rams don't catch folks with their pants down after all this fixating on the team that won the last 2 division crowns.

Yup.
Good thing the Seahawks are not overlooking the Rams. I doubt the Niners are either. I have thought for some time - even before the draft - that the Rams would be the more formidable challenger for the division... not the 49ers. The NFC West is going to be a battle, but... Russell Wilson is special! Percy Harvin can't stop smiling.

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Wow. :shock:

Really? OK...I guess thats ONE way to look at it. A bit self aggrandizing IMO, but whatevers clever.

REALLY! Here, is this any more readable? I didn't realize you couldn't read the font size. No need to put on those goofy glasses that make your eyes look so big.
Yes, Tom Brady is pretty good. Momentum is a huge thing. You must have saw that shift after the 2nd halftime of the Super Bowl. Anyway, sorry if I lost you. Wasn't trying to be clever. I'll try to remember that you've got pompous down, though.
Too, I'll try to remember you're vision impaired.


LOL.

Yeah....my issue wasn't that I couldn't read...it was that you seem to be attributing WAY to much credit to the Seahawks for "exposing" the 49ers. You know...the Self Aggrandizing part.

No worries. Just lookin forward to week 2.

Gee, my mistake then, since you say so. How could I have so obviously missed that you were insulting my reasoning? How very self-aggrandizing of me to suggest that the Seahawks had a lot to do with exposing the 49ers. Good thing you Niner fans are here to "discuss" and "interact" with us Seahawks fans. That's right, Niner fans simply wish to come into a Seahawks forum with pure intent to merely talk football. Everyone should know that you guys know much more about football because the 1980s teams won championships and the Seahawks team did not. That settles it, right? Gosh, how silly of me to bother waste my time to explain what I meant - especially if I were to give reference and applaud the total game plan and team effort of the Seahawks that SNF game. That's what you experts call, weak sauce, right?
One more thing. Are we supposed to take your week 2 reference as some prediction, oh great nostraDUMass? So you're saying we should count on you coming after us in this Seahawks - 49ers forum (.net main) and give us all an ear full? Because you're just here to talk football, not smack, etc.

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LOL.

Yeah....my issue wasn't that I couldn't read...it was that you seem to be attributing WAY to much credit to the Seahawks for "exposing" the 49ers. You know...the Self Aggrandizing part.

No worries. Just lookin forward to week 2.


Because Harbaugh has a history of vindicating losses? Like the Rams? Like the Giants? Like the Ravens? Good luck with that.


No...but he sure has a history of beating Pete Carroll. :D

Sorry, that was too easy.


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pssst.... TotC..... stop feeding the trolls and they might go away........

Ah, I gotcha CANHawk. Don't even engage them... just ignore them and they may go away. Not sure that's gonna work. I usually do ignore. They're still here.

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LOL.

Yeah....my issue wasn't that I couldn't read...it was that you seem to be attributing WAY to much credit to the Seahawks for "exposing" the 49ers. You know...the Self Aggrandizing part.

No worries. Just lookin forward to week 2.

Gee, my mistake then, since you say so. How could I have so obviously missed that you were insulting my reasoning? How very self-aggrandizing of me to suggest that the Seahawks had a lot to do with exposing the 49ers. Good thing you Niner fans are here to "discuss" and "interact" with us Seahawks fans. That's right, Niner fans simply wish to come into a Seahawks forum with pure intent to merely talk football. Everyone should know that you guys know much more about football because the 1980s teams won championships and the Seahawks team did not. That settles it, right? Gosh, how silly of me to bother waste my time to explain what I meant - especially if I were to give reference and applaud the total game plan and team effort of the Seahawks that SNF game. That's what you experts call, weak sauce, right?
One more thing. Are we supposed to take your week 2 reference as some prediction, oh great nostraDUMass? So you're saying we should count on you coming after us in this Seahawks - 49ers forum (.net main) and give us all an ear full? Because you're just here to talk football, not smack, etc.


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1) I thought it very convienient that you believe the Seahawks exposed the Niners,. That is what you WANT to believe therefore it muct be true regardless of whatever evidense put forward. IE...Self Aggrandizing. You are inserting you're team as the architect of the demise of the 49ers. If you don't see that as a bit arrogant, I dunno what to tell you.

2) I know much more about 49er football than you do. I claim nothing more. You clearly know your team better and I would never suggest otherwise. You are telling me what you're impression is of what your team did to the 49ers and I have responded by saying it actually happened the weak before Seattle and continued the rest of the Season. It is you who are saying you know more about the 49ers than I do...even though I've been watching my team for over 30 years. I never said a word about past championships. All that means is that I've had the priviledge to watch more successful teams...it has nothing to do with who has a better knowledge of the game overall. Get off the high horse.

3) I have no doubt that the Seahawks came in with a good gameplan. Good for you. You won. Have fun with it.

4) You were supposed to take my week 2 comment as me saying I can't wait till week 2. I have no idea who is going to win...but I surely want to see that game. I'm sure everyone on this site feels the same way. I've been here for awhile now and I rarely if ever engage in smack talk. If the 'hawks win I'll congratulate you guys. If the Niners win I'll be humble. Either way I think you need to have a thicker skin because I honestly thought this conversation was over like 3 responses ago. Stop reading more into what I'm saying. Typically anything I mean to say I'll say outright. No need to decode.


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Because Harbaugh has a history of vindicating losses? Like the Rams? Like the Giants? Like the Ravens? Good luck with that.


No...but he sure has a history of beating Pete Carroll. :D

Sorry, that was too easy.


That would probably sting if it weren't for 42-13.


LOL....That response is so tired. One game. One night. Its like its the end all be all for you guys. I really don't give 2 sh*ts about that game. Any given sunday.


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Well I am tired of that response "Any Given Sunday" sounds to me like you are already gearing up for your inevitable week 2 beatdown in the Clink.

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Well I am tired of that response "Any Given Sunday" sounds to me like you are already gearing up for your inevitable week 2 beatdown in the Clink.


No...it means I remember the 49ers losing 21-0 to the Bucs in 2010 and then beating the Bucs 48-3 one year later. DO I really think the Bucs were 21 points the better team and then a year later the Niners were 45 points the better team? No.

Any. Given. Sunday. There is a reason that saying exists.

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No, I believe that we have an enormous advantage at home and that we improved from last year while the 49er's stayed the same at best but more likely regressed. Which equals beatdown in week 2 simple as that. Also "Any Given Sunday" works both ways. I hate the saying and think it's an excuse for you to say "I am praying we don't get killed by the better team because the planets are aligned for them to totally crap their pants on National TV at home".


Except we have a history of playing even better on national TV and especially in night games. If you don't like it go back to the Webzone and talk your b*llsh*t like you always do there.

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No, I believe that we have an enormous advantage at home and that we improved from last year while the 49er's stayed the same at best but more likely regressed. Which equals beatdown in week 2 simple as that. Also "Any Given Sunday" works both ways. I hate the saying and think it's an excuse for you to say "I am praying we don't get killed by the better team because the planets are aligned for them to totally crap their pants on National TV at home".


Except we have a history of playing even better on national TV and especially in night games. If you don't like it go back to the Webzone and talk your b*llsh*t like you always do there.


Hostile much?

1) I'd argue the "regressed" statement.

2) I think either team could win that game. Its a tough spot to go to Seattle, no doubt, but that hasn't stopped the 49ers from going up there and winning in the past.Is this Seattle team better than those teams? Of course...but so is this SF team.

3) Of course any given Sunday goes both ways. LOL. Thats the whole point of the saying. LOL. If you think I'm trying to make excuses should the Niners lose....then I think you are trying WAY to hard to find hidden meaning in what I'm saying. Anything can happen on any given sunday. Its simply the way it is. What happens if Vernon doesn't get hurt. What happens if Justion plays. WHat happens if the Akers kick isn't plocked and returned for a TD. Conversely, what happens if Browner plays. Thats the entire point. IMO the 'hawks are NOT consistently 30 points better than SF. They are actually very evenly matched. If you are expecting consistant beatdowns in every game in Seattle, I suspect you're going to be disappointed.

4) As far as Nationally Televised games....with the exception of that SF-Seattle game, the Niners are the exact same way.


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This conversation would have been over 3 pages ago if you didn't keep insisting on getting the last word in.

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Do you guys honestly believe that every game from now on is going to be a near 30 point win by Seattle? Jeez.


Not even. I expect every game against the Niners to be pretty tight. Do you feel that Harbafreak "owns" Carroll because the Niners beat a Tavaris Jackson led Seahawks team in two close games?

Or that the 4 game win streak the Niners had with 3 of them at the Stick holds any water?

Me neither, but loads of Niner fans claimed it was some level of superiority over the Hawks. Carroll has split with the Niners two out of three seasons he has coached, losing a VERY close game at the Clink with TJack starting. Yet, Harbafreak "owns" Carroll.

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LOL.

Yeah....my issue wasn't that I couldn't read...it was that you seem to be attributing WAY to much credit to the Seahawks for "exposing" the 49ers. You know...the Self Aggrandizing part.

No worries. Just lookin forward to week 2.

Gee, my mistake then, since you say so. How could I have so obviously missed that you were insulting my reasoning? How very self-aggrandizing of me to suggest that the Seahawks had a lot to do with exposing the 49ers. Good thing you Niner fans are here to "discuss" and "interact" with us Seahawks fans. That's right, Niner fans simply wish to come into a Seahawks forum with pure intent to merely talk football. Everyone should know that you guys know much more about football because the 1980s teams won championships and the Seahawks team did not. That settles it, right? Gosh, how silly of me to bother waste my time to explain what I meant - especially if I were to give reference and applaud the total game plan and team effort of the Seahawks that SNF game. That's what you experts call, weak sauce, right?
One more thing. Are we supposed to take your week 2 reference as some prediction, oh great nostraDUMass? So you're saying we should count on you coming after us in this Seahawks - 49ers forum (.net main) and give us all an ear full? Because you're just here to talk football, not smack, etc.


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1) I thought it very convienient that you believe the Seahawks exposed the Niners,. That is what you WANT to believe therefore it muct be true regardless of whatever evidense put forward. IE...Self Aggrandizing. You are inserting you're team as the architect of the demise of the 49ers. If you don't see that as a bit arrogant, I dunno what to tell you.

2) I know much more about 49er football than you do. I claim nothing more. You clearly know your team better and I would never suggest otherwise. You are telling me what you're impression is of what your team did to the 49ers and I have responded by saying it actually happened the weak before Seattle and continued the rest of the Season. It is you who are saying you know more about the 49ers than I do...even though I've been watching my team for over 30 years. I never said a word about past championships. All that means is that I've had the priviledge to watch more successful teams...it has nothing to do with who has a better knowledge of the game overall. Get off the high horse.

3) I have no doubt that the Seahawks came in with a good gameplan. Good for you. You won. Have fun with it.

4) You were supposed to take my week 2 comment as me saying I can't wait till week 2. I have no idea who is going to win...but I surely want to see that game. I'm sure everyone on this site feels the same way. I've been here for awhile now and I rarely if ever engage in smack talk. If the 'hawks win I'll congratulate you guys. If the Niners win I'll be humble. Either way I think you need to have a thicker skin because I honestly thought this conversation was over like 3 responses ago. Stop reading more into what I'm saying. Typically anything I mean to say I'll say outright. No need to decode.


I'm afraid my 49er-fan decoder unit just went on the fritz. Wouldn't cha know it? But, come to find out... I didn't really need that thing because you're soooo humble. (And I thought you were choking on your words this whole time.) Wow... 49er fans are really swell. You can rest easy now, Clarence. I'm a changed man. Saddle sores from riding so high, but I guess they'll serve to remind me of you setting me straight. What a day. :mrgreen: WHAT A DAY!

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Do you guys honestly believe that every game from now on is going to be a near 30 point win by Seattle? Jeez.


Not even. I expect every game against the Niners to be pretty tight. Do you feel that Harbafreak "owns" Carroll because the Niners beat a Tavaris Jackson led Seahawks team in two close games?

Or that the 4 game win streak the Niners had with 3 of them at the Stick holds any water?

Me neither, but loads of Niner fans claimed it was some level of superiority over the Hawks. Carroll has split with the Niners two out of three seasons he has coached, losing a VERY close game at the Clink with TJack starting. Yet, Harbafreak "owns" Carroll.


Nah...I just said that because I was prevoked. :D

These two teams are really evenly matched. Should be fun for several years.

BTW..Harbaugh also owned Carroll in college. Has no bearing on what happens now...just sayin' it wasn't just the 3 NFL meetings.


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Gee, my mistake then, since you say so. How could I have so obviously missed that you were insulting my reasoning? How very self-aggrandizing of me to suggest that the Seahawks had a lot to do with exposing the 49ers. Good thing you Niner fans are here to "discuss" and "interact" with us Seahawks fans. That's right, Niner fans simply wish to come into a Seahawks forum with pure intent to merely talk football. Everyone should know that you guys know much more about football because the 1980s teams won championships and the Seahawks team did not. That settles it, right? Gosh, how silly of me to bother waste my time to explain what I meant - especially if I were to give reference and applaud the total game plan and team effort of the Seahawks that SNF game. That's what you experts call, weak sauce, right?
One more thing. Are we supposed to take your week 2 reference as some prediction, oh great nostraDUMass? So you're saying we should count on you coming after us in this Seahawks - 49ers forum (.net main) and give us all an ear full? Because you're just here to talk football, not smack, etc.


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1) I thought it very convienient that you believe the Seahawks exposed the Niners,. That is what you WANT to believe therefore it muct be true regardless of whatever evidense put forward. IE...Self Aggrandizing. You are inserting you're team as the architect of the demise of the 49ers. If you don't see that as a bit arrogant, I dunno what to tell you.

2) I know much more about 49er football than you do. I claim nothing more. You clearly know your team better and I would never suggest otherwise. You are telling me what you're impression is of what your team did to the 49ers and I have responded by saying it actually happened the weak before Seattle and continued the rest of the Season. It is you who are saying you know more about the 49ers than I do...even though I've been watching my team for over 30 years. I never said a word about past championships. All that means is that I've had the priviledge to watch more successful teams...it has nothing to do with who has a better knowledge of the game overall. Get off the high horse.

3) I have no doubt that the Seahawks came in with a good gameplan. Good for you. You won. Have fun with it.

4) You were supposed to take my week 2 comment as me saying I can't wait till week 2. I have no idea who is going to win...but I surely want to see that game. I'm sure everyone on this site feels the same way. I've been here for awhile now and I rarely if ever engage in smack talk. If the 'hawks win I'll congratulate you guys. If the Niners win I'll be humble. Either way I think you need to have a thicker skin because I honestly thought this conversation was over like 3 responses ago. Stop reading more into what I'm saying. Typically anything I mean to say I'll say outright. No need to decode.


I'm afraid my 49er-fan decoder unit just went on the fritz. Wouldn't cha know it? But, come to find out... I didn't really need that thing because you're soooo humble. (And I thought you were choking on your words this whole time.) Wow... 49er fans are really swell. You can rest easy now, Clarence. I'm a changed man. Saddle sores from riding so high, but I guess they'll serve to remind me of you setting me straight. What a day. :mrgreen: WHAT A DAY!


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No, I believe that we have an enormous advantage at home and that we improved from last year while the 49er's stayed the same at best but more likely regressed. Which equals beatdown in week 2 simple as that. Also "Any Given Sunday" works both ways. I hate the saying and think it's an excuse for you to say "I am praying we don't get killed by the better team because the planets are aligned for them to totally crap their pants on National TV at home".


Except we have a history of playing even better on national TV and especially in night games. If you don't like it go back to the Webzone and talk your b*llsh*t like you always do there.


Hostile much?

1) I'd argue the "regressed" statement.

2) I think either team could win that game. Its a tough spot to go to Seattle, no doubt, but that hasn't stopped the 49ers from going up there and winning in the past.Is this Seattle team better than those teams? Of course...but so is this SF team.

3) Of course any given Sunday goes both ways. LOL. Thats the whole point of the saying. LOL. If you think I'm trying to make excuses should the Niners lose....then I think you are trying WAY to hard to find hidden meaning in what I'm saying. Anything can happen on any given sunday. Its simply the way it is. What happens if Vernon doesn't get hurt. What happens if Justion plays. WHat happens if the Akers kick isn't plocked and returned for a TD. Conversely, what happens if Browner plays. Thats the entire point. IMO the 'hawks are NOT consistently 30 points better than SF. They are actually very evenly matched. If you are expecting consistant beatdowns in every game in Seattle, I suspect you're going to be disappointed.

4) As far as Nationally Televised games....with the exception of that SF-Seattle game, the Niners are the exact same way.
Not hostile I just see what you say at Webzone. Also I'm not specifically talking about Seahawk/49er matchups those will be close. I am taking about the fact we have the best winning percentage in MNF and sure aren't bad at SNF.

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Do you guys honestly believe that every game from now on is going to be a near 30 point win by Seattle? Jeez.


Not even. I expect every game against the Niners to be pretty tight. Do you feel that Harbafreak "owns" Carroll because the Niners beat a Tavaris Jackson led Seahawks team in two close games?

Or that the 4 game win streak the Niners had with 3 of them at the Stick holds any water?

Me neither, but loads of Niner fans claimed it was some level of superiority over the Hawks. Carroll has split with the Niners two out of three seasons he has coached, losing a VERY close game at the Clink with TJack starting. Yet, Harbafreak "owns" Carroll.


Nah...I just said that because I was prevoked. :D

These two teams are really evenly matched. Should be fun for several years.

BTW..Harbaugh also owned Carroll in college. Has no bearing on what happens now...just sayin' it wasn't just the 3 NFL meetings.


Right. On the other hand 42-13 *does* have a bearing on what happens now. The more recent the results the more predictive of future outcomes. Nate Silver, the now-famous election forecaster from the New York Times blog 538, has a great book that goes into depth about this sort of thing.

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LOL....That response is so tired. One game. One night. Its like its the end all be all for you guys. I really don't give 2 sh*ts about that game. Any given sunday.


Nope. If the Hawks play this season like the way they ended last, there will be another beat down. Now go do yourself a favor and GET OFF our board, Troll. :49ersmall:

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Lol - here's a B/R article that we're all bound to like:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1537 ... -qb/page/9

For those who don't want to read the link - they list young QB's as follows:
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4: Kaepernick
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1: Russell Wilson

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Of course now fans of the other QB's are whining just like we were - and it's fair - all the QBs are young and other than Stafford and Newton they only have 1 year of NFL experience under their belts. Should be interesting to see how lists like this appear after next season :)


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Lol - here's a B/R article that we're all bound to like:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1537 ... -qb/page/9

For those who don't want to read the link - they list young QB's as follows:
7: Tannehill
6: Newton
5: Stafford
4: Kaepernick
3: RG3
2: Luck
1: Russell Wilson

:)

Of course now fans of the other QB's are whining just like we were - and it's fair - all the QBs are young and other than Stafford and Newton they only have 1 year of NFL experience under their belts. Should be interesting to see how lists like this appear after next season :)


Just as i said when a Bleacher Report aticle said Kaep was better...

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I was never a fan of comparing two talented QBs based on numbers and wins. Nobody on the SF or SEA side can argue that the other QB isn't amazingly talented. There is so much more that goes into an NFL team. If the two QBs swapped places they probably would have the same success on either team. Russell is younger and Kap only played half a season granted. Although both showed clutch skills as well as incredible arm talent and football IQ. At this point it isn't a matter of QB as both teams are solid at that position. It comes down to coaching defense and offensive weapons. Both teams are so similar that you have to start nit picking things like special teams and game plans/homefield advantage.


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So, OP did you or anyone else take a look at that authors background and bio? That should tell you EVERYTHING about why he put Kaep ahead of Wilson. B/R is crap since it's an open source media site, so pretty much any "fan" can write for it, like this one.

Here's a few things in the author's summary, to see more, click on his name:

"ABOUT
I'm a recent graduate from San Francisco State University with a degree in Journalism. I live and breathe sports, particularly any from the Bay Area.

Favorite Sports Teams: San Francisco Giants, San Francisco 49ers

Most Memorable Game Attended: January 12, 2013, 49ers/Packers playoff game."

etc, etc....I think that helps explain his (cough) "article."


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