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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:47 am 
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I think it was more evidence of Lynch either having a flare up of his back spasms, a nagging injury to his arm/hand, or fatigue after a long and grueling season. 1 isn't going away, so that is a concern, 2 might have healed by now (if it existed), and 3 will be taken care of with the addition of Christine. So, 33% worried.

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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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Marshawn also runs even harder in the playoffs than in the regular season, if that's possible somehow, and he tends to be looser with the ball in order to try and get an extra yard or two, I think. That might have something to do with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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FargoHawk wrote:
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I hate it when a player knocks out the ball and it is called a fumble.

How else would they fumble???

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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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FargoHawk wrote:
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I hate it when a player knocks out the ball and it is called a fumble.

How else would they fumble???


A seahawks fan who hasnt seen dave krieg?

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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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I'm not worried about Beast Mode dropping the ball. Opposing D's will have so much to account for that Lynch is bound to have a great season.


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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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Largent80 wrote:
I hate it when a player knocks out the ball and it is called a fumble.


I know, right?

They should call it a "strip" when the ball is poked out by the D. Even though it has the same result, at least the stats would tell a better story.

Wait, they do that already, don't they?

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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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It was very irritating and uncharacteristic of him to lose those fumbles. I don't expect it to become a habit. Marshawn has had some great control of the ball his entire career with Seattle. I'm considering those last 3 games a fluke for him.

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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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HoustonHawk82 wrote:
Largent80 wrote:
I hate it when a player knocks out the ball and it is called a fumble.


I know, right?

They should call it a "strip" when the ball is poked out by the D. Even though it has the same result, at least the stats would tell a better story.

Wait, they do that already, don't they?


This reminds me of a sportswriter in San Antonio, Dan Cook, campaigning for a Tipped Interception stat to show when an INT was not the QBs fault and instead was the fault of the receiver bobbling or tipping a catchable pass into a CBs hands.

That stat would have benefited Russell Wilson's numbers last year.


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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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onanygivensunday wrote:
The last thing I'm worried about is Lynch fumbling.

It happens every once in a while and is just a characteristic of his running style.

We just have to take all the good with a little bad.


I dunno, he's a clutch fumbler and it certainly worries me somewhat. Not just his fumbles in Washington and Atlanta - he so nearly cost us the Chicago game with a fumble that RW was right behind him to collect in the 4th Q (much like Wilson's fumble that Lynch was there to collect in Washington).

I don't mind fumbling once in a while, but only when those "whiles" are in the 1st Q at the halfway line


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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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themunn wrote:
onanygivensunday wrote:
The last thing I'm worried about is Lynch fumbling.

It happens every once in a while and is just a characteristic of his running style.

We just have to take all the good with a little bad.


I dunno, he's a clutch fumbler and it certainly worries me somewhat. Not just his fumbles in Washington and Atlanta - he so nearly cost us the Chicago game with a fumble that RW was right behind him to collect in the 4th Q (much like Wilson's fumble that Lynch was there to collect in Washington).

I don't mind fumbling once in a while, but only when those "whiles" are in the 1st Q at the halfway line


Again. Lynch has less fumbles than Adrian Peterson. Must be the off-season.

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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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Does anyone else have the same concern for Marshawn as me as it pertains to fumbles? In his last three games, he fumbled in each, losing two of those at critical times of the game. I hope this is a fluke and not some trend that is on the horizon.


In the Atlanta game, the ball was punched out by one player precisely simultaneous with a crotch punch from another player:

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That said, that was one play (of several) which, had it been changed, Seattle probably wins the game. Very disappointing. And, aside from the official fumbles in the last three games, his TD at the end of the game at Atlanta was this close to yet another fumble. I don't think thoughtful reasoning led him to decide it was safe to give up the ball 4 inches over the goal line.


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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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Again. Lynch has less fumbles than Adrian Peterson. Must be the off-season.


Again, what I said was Lynch is a clutch fumbler, fumbles at the worst possible time. Not that he fumbles more than anyone else.
And Peterson has fumbled the ball 6 times in the last 3 seasons. Lynch fumbled 7 times in 2012. Peterson only has more fumbles because he fumbled regularly in his first 3 years.

It's all good and well being reliable during the season and only fumbling a handful of times, but fumbling twice in the playoffs and losing both is definitely a case of "clutch fumbling"


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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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themunn wrote:
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Again. Lynch has less fumbles than Adrian Peterson. Must be the off-season.


Again, what I said was Lynch is a clutch fumbler, fumbles at the worst possible time. Not that he fumbles more than anyone else.
And Peterson has fumbled the ball 6 times in the last 3 seasons. Lynch fumbled 7 times in 2012. Peterson only has more fumbles because he fumbled regularly in his first 3 years.

It's all good and well being reliable during the season and only fumbling a handful of times, but fumbling twice in the playoffs and losing both is definitely a case of "clutch fumbling"


No, its defiantly just bad luck. Thats it. Their is no higher probability that he fumbles during clutch times. Just that we will remember those better, because they were at clutch times.

I dont know exactly what you want him to get better at. He doesnt fumble often. You cant approve "clutch" fumble statistics since its not really a trait or a skil, its just a blind luck scenario. If he was a high percentage fumbler regardless, then their is a concern. But hes not, therefor there is no concern.

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 Post subject: Re: Concern for Marshawn
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Again. Lynch has less fumbles than Adrian Peterson. Must be the off-season.



Yep...we're in for five weeks of "hell"!!


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Smelly McUgly wrote:
HoustonHawk82 wrote:
Largent80 wrote:
I hate it when a player knocks out the ball and it is called a fumble.


I know, right?

They should call it a "strip" when the ball is poked out by the D. Even though it has the same result, at least the stats would tell a better story.

Wait, they do that already, don't they?


This reminds me of a sportswriter in San Antonio, Dan Cook, campaigning for a Tipped Interception stat to show when an INT was not the QBs fault and instead was the fault of the receiver bobbling or tipping a catchable pass into a CBs hands.

That stat would have benefited Russell Wilson's numbers last year.
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Along with the
"Oops I fell down INT" stat.

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