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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Unbelievable. Hugh Millen is right 99% of the time, and knows 27 times more about X's and O's than any other media type in the area, sans Holmgren. But Brock Huard is much better.

I agreed with him on Wilson at first also. When however many short QB's have come into the league and none have been successful, you're going to say the odds are ridiculously against him. He has since admitted that Wilson has been playing much better than anticipated. He was foolish with how brash he was with the statement, but at least he was willing to put it out there. Now all the Hawk fans are butthurt because he dare take an unpopular opinion about the chosen one.


LOL, what a joke. Right 99% of the time based on what? Millen blamed Jake Locker's inaccuracy on his supporting cast, he got to the NFL and he's still inaccurate.

Millen said Flynn was better than Wilson (a lot of people did) but when we lost to the Rams he said Wilson should be benched for Flynn.

He now admits he spoke too soon, perhaps judging Michael after one day is speaking too soon? How can you judge a RB when he's not in pads? Ridiculous.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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This reaction probably stems from his lack of any knowledge on the player Michael is. When drafted, Millen compared Michael to Leon Washington which is a hideous comparisson and shows that he has watched zero tape on him. Maybe that is why he is not as quick as he thought. He thought he was Leon 2.0.....except he is a completely different player.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Millen is a dolt. I never listen to him. He's as bad as Chicken Little Kelly. Here's what PC said about Michael yesterday:

"He's very quick," coach Pete Carroll said after Friday's practice. "Very quick and sudden. Caught the ball well, too, and didn't have any trouble picking things up, understanding the system. For the first day, he had a good start."

I haven't seen another negative report by anyone else.

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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Millen's neither a scout nor a coach.

He's a retired career back-up QB. His opinion is not much better than any one of ours.

He threw for 22 TDs and 35 INTs in ten seasons.

Russell threw for more TDs in his rookie season.

I consider Brock Huard much more knowledgeable and entertaining to listen to.

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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Millen reminds me of a talking head that always wants to be the first person right about anything. He just throws crap out there and hopes he is the first person to get it right. Time and again he flaps his lips and you wonder if he has done any research at all on the subject. He's a condescending jerk.

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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Tical21 wrote:
Millen said though today that Michael wasn't as quick and impressive as he had hoped.


So he is going to be great? Nice!


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Millen's neither a scout nor a coach.

He's a retired career back-up QB. His opinion is not much better than any one of ours.

He threw for 22 TDs and 35 INTs in ten seasons.

Russell threw for more TDs in his rookie season.

I consider Brock Huard much more knowledgeable and entertaining to listen to.



While I much prefer Brock to Millen, your reasoning is flawed. You're trying to detract from Millen for being a career backup, yet he played four times as many games as Brock. They're basically from the same backround.

I think it's better to judge them on what they say rather than their playing careers. Some career scrub players are extremely knowledgeable about the game and give great insight like Mike Mayock. Then there are former star players that come across like they know less than the average fan.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Holmgren likes Millen because he is a Walrus Hasselbeck apologist. Hugh Millen couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the c and the t.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Back on topic, if Michael is half as fast as he talks then the dude is going to make some people miss. I don't know if that's how fast he always talks, maybe he was nervous, but wow he was almost to the point where you couldn't understand him. Good luck to him and the team, I can't wait for mini-camp and pre-season.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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The same Millen who was hating on Russell Wilson. The Same Millen who has something against black quarterbacks.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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The same Millen who was hating on Russell Wilson. The Same Millen who has something against black quarterbacks.


I may not like many things the guy says, but I've never heard of him being a racist. What are you talking about?


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Millen is still butt hurt that they fired his BFF Mora, yawn.

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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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That was a GREAT interview video with Michael. You can't help but like the guy after watching that. I, like others, was interested about his first name. I found this:

Christine Michael, then 12, turned to his mother, Mary, for guidance about his unusual first name for a boy.
"At first, I kind of took it hard," Michael said.

So she turned to an example set by Johnny Cash — the gruff singer — for a little help.

"She told me about a 'Boy Named Sue,'" Michael said Monday of the late Cash's big hit from 40 years ago. "She said I was like that boy named Sue. He didn't care, so I shouldn't care.

"My mom wanted her first child to be a girl, and she had my name picked out from Day 1," Michael said, smiling. "She thought it was unique for a boy. Now, whatever anyone wants to call me, I just go along with it."


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Tical21 wrote:
Unbelievable. Hugh Millen is right 99% of the time, and knows 27 times more about X's and O's than any other media type in the area, sans Holmgren. But Brock Huard is much better.

I agreed with him on Wilson at first also. When however many short QB's have come into the league and none have been successful, you're going to say the odds are ridiculously against him. He has since admitted that Wilson has been playing much better than anticipated. He was foolish with how brash he was with the statement, but at least he was willing to put it out there. Now all the Hawk fans are butthurt because he dare take an unpopular opinion about the chosen one.



Well, apparently Hugh Millen posts here as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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That was a GREAT interview video with Michael. You can't help but like the guy after watching that. I, like others, was interested about his first name. I found this:

Christine Michael, then 12, turned to his mother, Mary, for guidance about his unusual first name for a boy.
"At first, I kind of took it hard," Michael said.

So she turned to an example set by Johnny Cash — the gruff singer — for a little help.

"She told me about a 'Boy Named Sue,'" Michael said Monday of the late Cash's big hit from 40 years ago. "She said I was like that boy named Sue. He didn't care, so I shouldn't care.

"My mom wanted her first child to be a girl, and she had my name picked out from Day 1," Michael said, smiling. "She thought it was unique for a boy. Now, whatever anyone wants to call me, I just go along with it."


Wow his mom trolled him pretty hard just because he was born a boy.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Millen comes across as a pompous ass blowhard, and he's wrong a LOT. Give him credit for not being afraid to express an opinion, and he can be interesting to listen to at times.

If Millen is ripping Christine Michael, that's probably a good thing. This is the same expert calling for Russell Wilson to be benched for Flynn after 3 or 4 games. If Millen doesn't like Michael, I say that means Lynch will get suspended for a few games and Michael will have a 1,000 yard season.

I do doubt that Millen meant "Leon Washingon replacement" in any way other than a roster sense. If he meant it in a football sense (would have to hear the whole quote for context), now that would truly be out of touch.

For more insightful analysis, Give me Brock Huard any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Brock typically winds up being accurate in what he says, in terms of how things pan out.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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This may be off-topic so I apologize in advance if it is....


I stopped listening to Hugh Millen last year. He just lost all credibility after the Seahawks fired Jim Mora Jr. All he's done is criticize every move by Pete Carroll. He was the one who basically called Carroll a cheater on air many times. I grew tired of him criticizing every move, and not just because he was criticizing, but because most of his criticism seemed unreasonably subjective, as if he had a motive. And that motive is pretty transparent.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Millen comes across as a pompous ass, and he's wrong a LOT. Give him credit for not being afraid to express an opinion, and he can be interesting to listen to at times.
If he's down on Christine Michael, that's probably a good thing. This is the same expert calling for Russell Wilson to be benched for Flynn after 3 or 4 games.
I doubt that Millen meant "Leon Washingon replacement" in any way other than a roster sense. If he meant it in a football sense (would have to hear the whole quote for context), now that would truly be out of touch.

For more insightful analysis, Give me Brock Huard any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Brock typically winds up being accurate in what he says, in terms of how things pan out.

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure I actually heard him compare him football wise to Leon. It was the same day we drafted him. Said he would compare him to Leon Washington


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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I don't want at all to make it sound like Millen was ripping Michael or the pick. Millen is a fan of his. He just expected him to look lightning fast through the hole, and Michael didn't appear as fast as he thought. He did give several reasons why this could be the case, such as first practice, new blockers and scheme, etc. He also said that he thought Michael was going to have a really big preseason and overall looked good.

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I don't put stock into anything Millen says or anyone else in the Seattle sports media for that matter . I'll make my own conclusions when I see him play on game day.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Tical21 wrote:
Millen said though today that Michael wasn't as quick and impressive as he had hoped. Can't wait to see him for myself.


He's probably a future Hall of Famer then.

Millen's credibility went down the toilet when he called Wilson a teacher's pet.


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 Post subject: Re: Christine Michael's first day of camp (.com article)
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Wilson IS a teacher's pet, I just see that as more of a positive than a negative.

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Wilson IS a teacher's pet, I just see that as more of a positive than a negative.


Yes you're right, but that certainly wasn't the context used on the radio.


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