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  • Offense:

    QB: Wilson, Quinn
    RB: Lynch, Turbin, Michael
    FB: Robinson, Ware
    WR: Rice, Harvin, Tate, Baldwin, Harper
    TE: Miller, McCoy, Fells
    OT: Okung, Giacomini, Carpenter
    OG: Moffitt, McQuistan, Sweezy
    C: Unger, Jeanpierre

    Defense:

    DE: Avril, Clemons, Red, Irvin, Scruggs, Bennett
    DT: Mebane, McDaniel, Howard, Hill, Williams
    OLB: Wright, Smith, Bradford
    MLB: Wagner, Morgan, Farwell
    CB: Sherman, Browner, Winfield, Lane, Simon
    FS: Thomas, Maragos
    SS: Chancellor, Johnson, Guy

    ST:

    LS: Gresham
    Punter: Ryan
    Kicker: Hauschka

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  • Here's my prediction for the draft picks:

    Michael: Makes the roster and gets carries.
    Hill: Makes the roster as part of the rotation.
    Chris Harper: Makes roster as 5th receiver, gets plenty of action
    Jesse Williams: Week 1 starter in Branch's old spot.
    Tharold Simon: Simon, Thurmond, Lane and Maxwell will battle for 2 spots. I think Simon goes on practice squad, or maybe stash him on injured reserve.
    Luke Willson: practice Squad
    Spencer Ware: Either makes squad as 5th RB/Fb, or gets stashed on injured reserve. But does not get cut or hit practice squad.
    Ryan Seymour: Cut or practice squad
    Ty Powell: Cut or practice squad
    Jared Smith: Cut or practice squad
    Michael Bowie: Cut or practice squad.

    I still expect to bring in a veteran o'linemen or two (think Frank Omiyale type signings) that will end up being our active roster o'line depth.
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  • I think Tharold Simon is definitely making this team. Probably Bryon Maxwell is gone. But man, at corner we could have Sherman, Browner, Winfield, Thurmond, Lane, and Simon. My goodness, it's almost unfair.
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  • ProckHawks wrote:Offense:

    QB: Wilson, Quinn
    RB: Lynch, Turbin, Michael
    FB: Robinson, Ware
    WR: Rice, Harvin, Tate, Baldwin, Harper
    TE: Miller, McCoy, Fells
    OT: Okung, Giacomini, Carpenter
    OG: Moffitt, McQuistan, Sweezy
    C: Unger, Jeanpierre

    Defense:

    DE: Avril, Clemons, Red, Irvin, Scruggs, Bennett
    DT: Mebane, McDaniel, Howard, Hill, Williams
    OLB: Wright, Smith, Bradford
    MLB: Wagner, Morgan, Farwell
    CB: Sherman, Browner, Winfield, Lane, Simon
    FS: Thomas, Maragos
    SS: Chancellor, Johnson, Guy

    ST:

    LS: Gresham
    Punter: Ryan
    Kicker: Hauschka

    Only 6 rookies make this team. 3 on offense and 3 on defense.


    Good stab. Can't argue with anything.

    Only wild card for me is I expect Clemons to be on PUP to start the season. And I think Powell will make it ahead of Bradford.
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  • I'm higher on Michael Bowie than some folks. I dunno if he makes the team, but what I've seen is impressive. He could easily have gone mid-draft if he hadn't transferred out of OSU. Keep an eye on him as a surprise/sleeper stud. 7th round be damned. He's got the best shot of any of the UDFA/low round picks to pull a Baldwin and end up on the team.
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  • Would be shocked if Simon got cut. They seem quite high on him -- PC/JS revealed that he was the guy that they actually traded up for, not Jesse Williams.

    At CB, Sherman, Browner, Winfield, Lane and Simon seem like virtual locks. I think Thurmond has a great shot of making the roster, but he might be competing with players at other positions for the roster spot (Winston Guy, for example).
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  • I am thinking Clemons is on the PUP to start off the regular season. Bowie is intriguing to me. He looked pretty good against South Carolina when he was at OSU. He could be a diamond in the rough to back up Giacomini. They are thin at Tackle so somebody has to take on the Frank Omiyale role. JSea is probably correct, they may sign a veteran to come fill that spot.

    Powell is another sleeper pick, maybe he has them thinking of giving Howard the boot to get the numbers for the DL? Or McDonald if Howard is rejuvenated under Quinn/the DL coach?

    Some folks are raving about the UDFA Polk, comparing him to Hamlin for striking skills. Does that put Johnson/Guy/Maragos in jeopardy? Not sure.
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  • DavidSeven wrote:Would be shocked if Simon got cut. They seem quite high on him -- PC/JS revealed that he was the guy that they actually traded up for, not Jesse Williams.

    At CB, Sherman, Browner, Winfield, Lane and Simon seem like virtual locks. I think Thurmond has a great shot of making the roster, but he might be competing with players at other positions for the roster spot (Winston Guy, for example).


    Sadly, I think Jeron Johnson, a guy I really like, will be on the outside looking in, assuming (and this is a big assumption) that Thurmond stays healthy.
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  • drdiags wrote:Some folks are raving about the UDFA Polk, comparing him to Hamlin for striking skills. Does that put Johnson/Guy/Maragos in jeopardy? Not sure.


    We will have to see how he does, but I definitely think so.

    Maragos is a RFA (1.3mm i think?). Will we really re-sign him after this season? No, we need a cost controlled back-up that has potential. Polk could be that guy.
    Guy was absolutely awful last year, he needs to step up in a big way or he is gone. I have heard he is more focused and in way better shape this season, so thats something.
    Johnson, I think is safe this season. However, he might have trade value (7th) if we feel comfortable making Polk his replacement.
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  • ProckHawks wrote:Offense:

    QB: Wilson, Quinn
    RB: Lynch, Turbin, Michael
    FB: Robinson, Ware
    WR: Rice, Harvin, Tate, Baldwin, Harper
    TE: Miller, McCoy, Fells
    OT: Okung, Giacomini, Carpenter
    OG: Moffitt, McQuistan, Sweezy
    C: Unger, Jeanpierre

    Defense:

    DE: Avril, Clemons, Red, Irvin, Scruggs, Bennett
    DT: Mebane, McDaniel, Howard, Hill, Williams
    OLB: Wright, Smith, Bradford
    MLB: Wagner, Morgan, Farwell
    CB: Sherman, Browner, Winfield, Lane, Simon
    FS: Thomas, Maragos
    SS: Chancellor, Johnson, Guy

    ST:

    LS: Gresham
    Punter: Ryan
    Kicker: Hauschka

    Only 6 rookies make this team. 3 on offense and 3 on defense.


    Brilliant. No need to add or subtract from this (IMO).
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  • I think something is amiss with the running backs. Lynch may have an injury we do not know about. To draft two running backs, when you could argue it was one of the strengths of the team, says a lot. Micheal is not a 3rd down scat back as some on this board have referenced. He is a big time talent who weighs 220 pounds and runs a sub 4.5 forty. He is a starter and has potential to be a difference maker at running back. I don't think you draft a guy like that for special teams and occasional muck up duty. We drafted him to produce now. But why? It could be that Lynch wore down as the season progressed and they want someone to split carries with him. They obviously do not think Turbin is up to the task. We will see how this shapes up...one thing is certain...PC and JS think this is a position that can be upgraded...which is saying a lot.
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  • Taking running backs made absolutely no sense to me during the draft. Now that it's over and I've had time to mull the logic, it's fairly obvious. It's more than just "best player available" at the time of the pick.

    Michael was taken because we don't want to see the running game fall apart over a Lynch back spasm. Turbin has not appeared to be able to pick up where Lynch left off.

    Ware was taken because we were completely dissatisfied with our third and short production. He is a guy who can change that for us.
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  • billio155 wrote:I think something is amiss with the running backs. Lynch may have an injury we do not know about. To draft two running backs, when you could argue it was one of the strengths of the team, says a lot. Micheal is not a 3rd down scat back as some on this board have referenced. He is a big time talent who weighs 220 pounds and runs a sub 4.5 forty. He is a starter and has potential to be a difference maker at running back. I don't think you draft a guy like that for special teams and occasional muck up duty. We drafted him to produce now. But why? It could be that Lynch wore down as the season progressed and they want someone to split carries with him. They obviously do not think Turbin is up to the task. We will see how this shapes up...one thing is certain...PC and JS think this is a position that can be upgraded...which is saying a lot.


    There was an open roster spot after Leon's release. Perhaps the only truly open roster spot on the team. Why not fill it with the best talent available? Don't read so much into it. Should they have drafted someone with less talent so they'd be more suited for the #3 RB position?

    We don't draft people to "produce now" as you said. We drafted Michael in the same area of the draft that we drafted Russell Wilson in 2012, and Wilson was by no means guaranteed to start his rookie season.
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  • I am less in love with the Michael pick than I was initially. Too frequently I am reading "has trouble holding onto the ball". Only time will tell but all this "potential" and "upside" will be for not if he puts the ball on the carpet with any regularity. I try to put this out of my mind because I know Pete won't tolerate fumbling and wouldn't have drafted him if this was a concern (right?).

    I see others are not so high on Harper. I am stoked with this pick, he is exactly what Pete has been looking for and the one (type of) WR we needed to complement the others. He won't get pushed around, he plays with attitude and he won't be asked to play any other way under Pete. I anticipate instant chemistry between he and RW. Is anyone happier than Wilson with our off-season additions??

    Simon is a bit of a project but he will have the luxury of learning under the league's best. He will definitely prove to be a solid (and necessary) pick, IMO.

    I love the Ware pick. Love it. As vicious as Lynch is, he is not a great goal line back and even if he were, I'd sooner someone else be taking those hits.

    Hill and Williams? I think they are what they are and will be exactly what we need them to be. Blue collar, lunch pail types that will celebrate the glory of the guy next to them. ;)
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  • Offense:

    QB: Wilson, Quinn
    RB: Lynch, Turbin, Michael
    FB: Robinson, Ware
    WR: Rice, Harvin, Tate, Baldwin, Harper
    TE: Miller, McCoy, McGrath
    OT: Okung, Giacomini, Bowie
    OG: Carpenter, McQuistan, Sweezy
    C: Unger, Jeanpierre

    Defense:

    DE: Avril, Clemons, Red, Irvin, Scruggs, Bennett
    DT: Mebane, McDaniel, Howard, Hill, Williams
    OLB: Wright, Smith, Powell, Lotuleilei
    MLB: Wagner, Farwell
    CB: Sherman, Browner, Winfield, Thurmond, Lane, Simon
    FS: Thomas, Johnson
    SS: Chancellor, Guy

    ST:

    LS: Gresham
    Punter: Ryan
    Kicker: Hauschka

    Took a few chances on Bowie and Lotuleilei making the team, also McGrath making it over Fells.
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  • (2) QB: Wilson, Quinn
    (3) RB: Lynch, Turbin, Michael
    (2) FB: Robinson, Ware
    (6) WR: Rice, Harvin, Tate, Baldwin, Harper, Williams
    (3) TE: Miller, McCoy, Willson
    (4) OT: Okung, Giacomini, McQuistan, Bowie
    (3) OG: Carpenter, Seymour, Sweezy
    (2)OC: Unger, Moffitt

    (3) DL (under 290): Avril, Irvin, Bennett
    (4) DL (290-320): Mebane, McDaniel, Hill, Scruggs
    (2) DL (over 320): Bryant, Williams
    (6) LB: Wagner, Wright, Smith, Morgan, Farwell, Toomer
    (6) CB: Sherman, Browner, Winfield, Lane, Maxwell, Simon
    (4) S: Thomas, Chanchellor, Margagos, Guy

    (3) ST: Ryan, Hauschka, McGrath

    (PUP): Chris Clemons

    (8) PS: QB, Jerrod Johnson, WR Jermaine Kearse, TE Darren Fells, OG/DT Jared Smith, DT Jaye Howard, LEO Ty Powell, LB Kyle Knox, and DB DeShawn Snead.

    Yes, I have the Seahawks keeping 5 RB/ 6WR. I like both Harper and Williams. I have Bowie making the team, as well, I think he'll work hard under Cable and take everything Okung has to offer like he did when they were at Oklahoma St. I think Ryan Seymour will be more valuable than JeanPierre having played OT, OG, and was backup OC for Vandy. I think Willson is further along than Fells, and offers more from a weapon standpoint than McGrath. However, as my biggest surprise on the roster, I have McGrath theoretically winning the long-snapping role over Gresham and adding value at TE as well. I love positional versatility. I just felt if their wasn't a chance for McGrath to become the long-snapper, Seahawks would have just signed Gresham long term as he's done well enough.
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    This would be my ideal list- But then again I always root for rookies to unseat vets, because than that tells us the talent is continuing to improve on this roster. IMO there are a number of vets who will have a hard time keeping their jobs, when you factor in their contributions relative to their paycheck. I think this draft gives the staff younger and cheaper option, especially those that are mainly ST's contributors.

    QB-2- Wilson, Brady
    RB/FB-5- Lynch, Turbin, Michael, Robinson, Ware
    WR/TE-9- Rice, Tate, Baldwin, Harvin, Harper, Williams-- Miller, McCoy, Willson
    OL- 8- Okung, Carpenter, Unger, Moffitt, Sweezy, Breno, Bowie, Seymore,
    24- Offense

    DT- 5- Mebane, Williams, Hill, Howard, McDaniel
    DE-5- Irvin, Avril, Bryant, Scruggs, Bennett
    LB-6- Wagner, Wright, Smith, Toomer, Wilkins, Morgan
    CB-6- Sherman, Browner, Winfield, Lane, Thurmond, Simon
    S-4- Thomas, Chancellor, Guy, Shead
    26- Defense

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Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 12:12 am
  • Assuming none of the presumed players to start on the 53 man roster what do you think?

    My opinion is the only spots open are a tackle, #6 receiver , #3 TE, One versatile LB, and a battle for one spot between Winston Guy and J Johnson

    As Follows :
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    Okung Carpenter Unger Moffitt Giacomini
    Jeanpierre? McQuistan JR Sweazy _________

    QB
    Wilson Quinn

    RB/Fullback
    Lynch Michael Turbin Ware Robinson

    TE
    Miller McCoy _______

    WR
    Harvin Rice Tate Baldwin Harper _______

    DL
    Mebane McDaniel Williams J Hill Bennett
    Red Bryant Clemons Avril Irvin

    LB
    Smith Kj Wright Wagner Farwell (special teams specialist.). ________

    CB
    Sherman Browner Winfield Thurmond Lane Simon

    Safety
    Thomas Margagos Chancellor J. Johnson or Winston Guy (not sure)

    Special Teams
    J Ryan Haushka Gresham

    My opinion: add a vet tackle, possibly Luke Wilson for TE, Wr competition for 6 th spot could be Willams here, and the battle for LB, maybe Toomer
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
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  • I think your going to have to drop one player as you did not have the backup QB listed. The 53 man roster has to have a backup QB.
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
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  • v1rotv2 wrote:I think your going to have to drop one player as you did not have the backup QB listed. The 53 man roster has to have a backup QB.


    You sure?
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 1:59 am
  • A few of my own two cents to throw into the fountain. I was going to blow up your 4
    LB roster but there has been much talk of Avril/Irvin sliding into the vacancy so we'd be fine there.

    Can't see us keeping two FBs unless we keep two kickers as well. Ware or Robinson will have to go. We all love RRR but there have been hard dismissals under PC in the past.

    There's a lot of DBs too, can't keep em all, Thirmond, Lane, JJ could be gone. OL looks about right. Hope YOLO makes the cut on the D line but there's a lot of people in front of him. I can see him being our 2013 version of 2009 Michael Bennett, getting cut in favor of Hill and then flourishing elsewhere.

    QB? I can see Portis or Johnson honestly beating out Quinn.
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 6:00 am
  • I also don't think Quinn is a wrap. Wilson is a tough act to follow.
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 6:05 am
  • You can keep two FB's if we are truly going to rotate Avril and Irvin at LB as well, a FB like Ware could be a big special teams guy, as big as a LB and likes contact also.
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 6:29 am
  • I don't think we can keep 5 backs, 6 WR's and 3 TE's . . . The numbers don't support that. One of those positions will have to take a hit, and I suspect it will be the WR group. Only expect them to keep 5.

    I'd be shocked if they kept 4 true linebackers . . . Expect Bradford to also make the team, and they may only keep 5 corners.

    I also don't expect McDaniel to make the team over Scruggs.
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 6:52 am
  • I think Ware and Willson are probably practice squad players unless Lynch is out at the start of the year.
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 9:49 am
  • Well, we are stacked at Runningback. Lynch is in the peak of his prime, Turbin is only going to get better, Christine Michael is a stud and I have heard good things about the LSU kid (Spencer Ware).

    Depth at RB. Meaning we won't have to panic if Lynch goes down. Although I would still cry in that scenario, I would be comfortable with Turbin, Michael and Ware taking over for Marshawn Lynch. This has to make Russ a little more comfortable too.

    I loved the QB draws, delays and other designed quarterback run plays last season. But they also scared the crap out of me, simply because those kind of plays are putting Wilson at an unnecessary risk of injury (unless its the playoffs). No doubt Wilson has the talent to be a pocket QB. I'd like his mobility to be a 'bonus' to his game, instead of being a crucial part. In order for that to happen you obviously need a solid offensive line, but you also need quality tailbacks. One solid RB is good, but not good enough, IMO.

    The moves this off season (free agent signings, trades and draft picks) was an obvious effort to built this team around Russell Wilson. The Seahawks have one of the most talented young quarterbacks in the league. If you don't believe that, then you'd have to agree he has the potential to be the most (or one of the most) talented. This is something we haven't seen in the history of Seahawks Football. Complete confidence.
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 10:39 am
  • McGruff wrote:I don't think we can keep 5 backs, 6 WR's and 3 TE's . . . The numbers don't support that. One of those positions will have to take a hit, and I suspect it will be the WR group. Only expect them to keep 5.

    I'd be shocked if they kept 4 true linebackers . . . Expect Bradford to also make the team, and they may only keep 5 corners.

    I also don't expect McDaniel to make the team over Scruggs.


    Sure you can. They did to start last year which had the following

    QB-2
    RB/FB=5
    TE=3
    WR=6
    OL=9
    Offense total= 25

    DL= 9
    LB= 6
    DB= 10
    Defense Totals= 25

    +3-ST's. That's how the original 53 started out last year. I would think they could cut the # of LBer's to 5 to keep an 10th DLmen- considering Clem, Avril, Irvin will play some LBer. IMO I think it will go this way again in 2013
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 10:43 am
  • I'm afraid to change our starting defense too much. We were so dominant last year.
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 10:52 am
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    McGruff wrote:I don't think we can keep 5 backs, 6 WR's and 3 TE's . . . The numbers don't support that. One of those positions will have to take a hit, and I suspect it will be the WR group. Only expect them to keep 5.

    I'd be shocked if they kept 4 true linebackers . . . Expect Bradford to also make the team, and they may only keep 5 corners.

    I also don't expect McDaniel to make the team over Scruggs.


    Sure you can. They did to start last year which had the following

    QB-2
    RB/FB=5
    TE=3
    WR=6
    OL=9
    Offense total= 25

    DL= 9
    LB= 6
    DB= 10
    Defense Totals= 25

    +3-ST's. That's how the original 53 started out last year. I would think they could cut the # of LBer's to 5 to keep an 10th DLmen- considering Clem, Avril, Irvin will play some LBer. IMO I think it will go this way again in 2013


    Who were the 5 backs . . . lynch, Turbin, Washington, Robinson and ???
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 11:21 am
  • McGruff, the 4th RB last season was Kregg Lumpkin, who like Spencer Ware, had ability to play RB and fill in at FB if need be. I think they keep 5 again this year. I think they like Ware's violent running style too much to risk losing him.
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Re: Predicting the 53 man roster
Wed May 01, 2013 12:17 pm
  • NYCoug wrote:McGruff, the 4th RB last season was Kregg Lumpkin, who like Spencer Ware, had ability to play RB and fill in at FB if need be. I think they keep 5 again this year. I think they like Ware's violent running style too much to risk losing him.


    Forgot about Lumpkin . . . Understandably :D

    I agree on Ware, and I also suspect Willson makes the final cut . . . I will be interested to see where all the numbers play out, and of course injuries will play into that.
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