Honestly, I hope it's neither. I'd really like to see Christine Michael completely rehabilitate himself and I don't see punt returns helping the cause. Golden Tate has become one of our more reliable playmakers in the receiving game. May not get targeted as much as Rice, but he doesn't drop the ball and he's deadly after the catch. Perhaps this is something we could let Thurmond and Maragos have a shot at, seeing how they were both tagged as electrifying return men when they entered the NFL.
I like Harvin on kicks and Michael on punts. The way Micheal has that extra gear, even if he seems to be on full speed already, could do wonders.. Plus he can run through tackles. Harvins talents should not be wasted by sparing him on anything.
Tate seems to have a tiny bit of Barry Sanders, in that sometimes he likes to take steps backwards and sideways to find that seam and when returning punts that usually gets you killed or poor field position. I am cool with whomever they decide.
No for Harvin...way to much invested. Tate has tried it , but to be honest he looks shaky catching punts. Try one of the rookie backs . Maybe Lane? I know he is a DB but he has great speed and good hands
Happypuppy wrote:No for Harvin...way to much invested. Tate has tried it , but to be honest he looks shaky catching punts. Try one of the rookie backs . Maybe Lane? I know he is a DB but he has great speed and good hands
I actually voted for Tate, but you're right. Until the ball is firmly in his hands, he looks uncertain and not overly confident. But like anything else, I think reps will solve that problem. The good news is I totally trust our coaching staff to field the right player. Damn, it's fun to say that.
Harvin is more likely to get mauled on a drag route across the middle than he is to get obliterated on a return. Players tend to get hit hard, (once in awhile) on punt returns with sloppy coverage, but I've rarely seen someone hurt by one.
Either would be fine but my hope is for Christine to take it because I don't want any starting WR returning kicks. That duty is tailor made for rookies and players trying to make their mark by being Special Teams Aces.
Christine Michael did not return a single punt at Texas A&M, doesn't mean he can't do it, but it's not as if he has a history of it.
I'd like to see Tate in some sort of 1/3 to 2/3 time share with someone. We had 42 punt returns last year, I don't want Tate taking more than 15 or so because he seems to have a return style that sets him up for a lot of potential big hits.
I'm fine with anyone else for the remaining 30 or so.
HoustonHawk82 wrote:Mmmmmm, this is going to be interesting.
I agree with the camp saying Harvin should not play ST's, and I'm not sure Tate has the breakaway speed to avoid being caught from behind. Golden is elusive, but I don't see him as a sprinter. Harvin is fast, no doubt about it, but the tackles made on returns can be brutal. Let's preserve Percy for offense, please.
I want to see what Michael can do.
Tate is perfect for punt returns, punt returns are about being elusive. Kick returns are the one you need breakaway speed.
Teams load up their punt teams with big guys because they have to first protect the punter. Kickoff teams are mostly smaller quick guys -- especially since wedges are being cracked down on.
I genuinely can't remember the last time someone got seriously hurt on a punt return. The biggest chance of getting hit hard is immediately after catching the ball (if no fair catch called for), but that's usually a really speedy but not so big guy.
Guys are probably more likely to get hurt on offense or defense on a snap by snap basis I reckon
Justin Veltung... I watched him play at U of I and when the ball is in his hands... it's aways a TD threat... type in Justin Veltung in You tube... yes he has little chance... 4.4 speed / 10' 9" broad jump / 42.5" vertical / but no contract and as such...
We wouldn't have let Neon Leon go if Harvin wasn't our new KR guy. I'm sure Michael and Tate will both see time returning punts, as they bring different styles. Michael seems like Leon in that he'll be fast and hard with good vision/cuts, which is better suited for KR, IMO. Tate is the shifty make-you-miss guy, which I think is better suited for PR.
"You can hurry up all you want. But if you can't get yards and can't complete passes, then it's just quick three-and-outs." -- Richard Sherman
I think it will be a pretty big upset if we don't have Harvin on kicks and Tate on punts next season 90% of the time. That said, I'm really interested to hear that Seattle wants Michael in the mix too. He might be the most explosive/athletic runner on the team, so it makes sense to have a look.
The person who ends up with the job, no matter who it is has my respect. That must be the scariest job in the game. I couldn't do it. I'd be bringing an extra 10 or so britches and baby wipes to every game and be making a trip to the locker room after every punt.
SalishHawkFan wrote:I read somewhere that he doesn't have that breakaway speed, he's more of a bruiser in the mold of Lynch. I may be wrong, but that doesn't sound like any kind of punt returner I ever heard of. But if Pete thinks he's worth looking at, then maybe he's faster than the source I read thinks.
You're pretty much wrong. Michael is going to have one of the fastest *20* times of anyone on the team, probably behind only Harvin and maybe ET. Michael has unbelievable acceleration. What he doesn't have is unbelievable absolute TOP speed. If Michael were to break free at the 20, with ET 3 yards behind him, ET would run him down and tackle him about 60 yards later, at the other 20. However, one zig-zag that ET doesn't read and react to correctly, and Michael takes it to the house. Watch Michael's 97 yard TD run in college to get the picture of what I'm talking about. It starts 24 seconds into the video. He outruns the DB up the sideline, and by the time the DB realizes what he's up against and starts sprinting with good form, it's too late. Michael started slowing down a bit too as he neared the end zone; it's a damn long way to run at full speed. Michael outruns DBs in his college highlights, time after time. Plus he is clever enough to make a move and create that separation, and with a little separation, and it's OVER, he's GONE.
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