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  • Steve2222 wrote:
    Falcan Moore wrote:Such a great pick, worried about playing you guys this year - on the bright side, we have young and terrific CBs.


    As a UDub fan watching Desmond play a ton, he never screamed above average NFL starter to me. Not trying to rain on your parade, but yeah.

    I'm far from thrilled with our draft. Actually pretty pissed with it. But apparently, if you rain on the parade, you're a "bad fan," so I'm holding my tongue till the draft is done.
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    Shock2k wrote:Stupid ESPN was on a commercial break during our pick.

    Every year they always are. The Seattle pick doesnt matter to the talking heads and when we pick they are always talking about someone else.


    It's Round 4... they're done showing picks live.

    Calm down.

    You Calm down. I did not want them to show it live but at least TALK about the pick a bit. All they want to talk about is what the Jets/Giants etc are doing. I am allowed an opinion about the stupid media. You dont need to be my mother advising me.
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  • Falcan Moore wrote:
    Steve2222 wrote:
    Falcan Moore wrote:Such a great pick, worried about playing you guys this year - on the bright side, we have young and terrific CBs.


    As a UDub fan watching Desmond play a ton, he never screamed above average NFL starter to me. Not trying to rain on your parade, but yeah.

    I'm far from thrilled with our draft. Actually pretty pissed with it. But apparently, if you rain on the parade, you're a "bad fan," so I'm holding my tongue till the draft is done.



    Not at all. These players all have question marks, your concern is valid. However we only need to hit on a couple. There is not much room on this roster right now as good as it is.
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  • Happypuppy wrote:
    Falcan Moore wrote:
    Steve2222 wrote:As a UDub fan watching Desmond play a ton, he never screamed above average NFL starter to me. Not trying to rain on your parade, but yeah.

    I'm far from thrilled with our draft. Actually pretty pissed with it. But apparently, if you rain on the parade, you're a "bad fan," so I'm holding my tongue till the draft is done.



    Not at all. These players all have question marks, your concern is valid. However we only need to hit on a couple. There is not much room on this roster right now as good as it is.


    I'm talking about the Falcons draft haha. Seahawks draft has been pretty terrific from my perspective.
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  • Rice and Tate threw the ball last season. Harper used to be a QB in Oregon so I expect to see the same from him.
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  • TwilightError wrote:Rice and Tate threw the ball last season. Harper used to be a QB in Oregon so I expect to see the same from him.

    Well, instead of the 4WR offense, maybe we'll have a 5QB backfield.

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  • Falcan Moore wrote:
    Happypuppy wrote:
    Falcan Moore wrote:I'm far from thrilled with our draft. Actually pretty pissed with it. But apparently, if you rain on the parade, you're a "bad fan," so I'm holding my tongue till the draft is done.



    Not at all. These players all have question marks, your concern is valid. However we only need to hit on a couple. There is not much room on this roster right now as good as it is.


    I'm talking about the Falcons draft haha. Seahawks draft has been pretty terrific from my perspective.


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  • JSeahawks wrote:Ex Duck QB. TOUGH TOUGH wr. Actually reminds me quite a bit of Brian Blades. Realy good run blocking WR as well. If you don't love the pick now I pretty much guarantee you'll love the player in a couple years.

    I like it!


    Looks like a very solid pick. Why did he transfer from Oregone????? Was he tired of the ugly uniform combos? :sarcasm_off:
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    JSeahawks wrote:Ex Duck QB. TOUGH TOUGH wr. Actually reminds me quite a bit of Brian Blades. Realy good run blocking WR as well. If you don't love the pick now I pretty much guarantee you'll love the player in a couple years.

    I like it!


    Looks like a very solid pick. Why did he transfer from Oregone????? Was he tired of the ugly uniform combos? :sarcasm_off:


    Lost the QB job.
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  • I like this pick. Big receiver.

    Adds more needed size and depth at receiver.

    Overall, I like our receiver core, but the only thing we were missing was another bigger receiver.
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  • Steve2222 wrote:
    Falcan Moore wrote:Such a great pick, worried about playing you guys this year - on the bright side, we have young and terrific CBs.


    As a UDub fan watching Desmond play a ton, he never screamed above average NFL starter to me. Not trying to rain on your parade, but yeah.


    I am going to disagree with this - I think Desmond will above average ... he excels in tight coverage which to the extremely poor Pac-12 officiating means sometimes a flag and sometimes not, which makes it difficult for a corner to understand where lines are drawn.
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  • marymoorhawk wrote:
    Steve2222 wrote:
    Falcan Moore wrote:Such a great pick, worried about playing you guys this year - on the bright side, we have young and terrific CBs.


    As a UDub fan watching Desmond play a ton, he never screamed above average NFL starter to me. Not trying to rain on your parade, but yeah.


    I am going to disagree with this - I think Desmond will above average ... he excels in tight coverage which to the extremely poor Pac-12 officiating means sometimes a flag and sometimes not, which makes it difficult for a corner to understand where lines are drawn.



    From the limited stuff I've seen of Desmond Trufant. To me he is KELLY JENNINGS 2.0, a guy with similar size and speed to Jennings. Who also is a "safe" pick. From what I've seen and Mayock has said, he doesn't make a lot of huge plays. The guy played 4 years and had just 6 INT's at least 1 of which was a gift as the QB of the opposing team overthrew it and it was easy pickings.

    I wish him the best in ATL. I'm glad he's not in Seattle though.
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  • Depth at flanker - behind Rice. We don't have another big bodied WR on the team so this was needed.

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  • Classic Pete WR. Big and fast that can catch in a crowd seems similar to Boldin possibly but faster.
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  • I totally called this pick back during the Oregon-KSU Fiesta Bowl, or at least that's what my brother hit me up to give me props for, because I don't remember, I was DRUUUUUUUNK.
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  • Falcan Moore wrote: But apparently, if you rain on the parade, you're a "bad fan," so I'm holding my tongue till the draft is done.


    This is very true. Sad, but true. Or you are labeled as 'freaking out'. Such is life on an internet fan board.
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  • I'd like to see him get down the field a little more, but with Klein that might not have been his fault.
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  • jlwaters1 wrote:
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    Steve2222 wrote:As a UDub fan watching Desmond play a ton, he never screamed above average NFL starter to me. Not trying to rain on your parade, but yeah.


    I am going to disagree with this - I think Desmond will above average ... he excels in tight coverage which to the extremely poor Pac-12 officiating means sometimes a flag and sometimes not, which makes it difficult for a corner to understand where lines are drawn.



    From the limited stuff I've seen of Desmond Trufant. To me he is KELLY JENNINGS 2.0, a guy with similar size and speed to Jennings. Who also is a "safe" pick. From what I've seen and Mayock has said, he doesn't make a lot of huge plays. The guy played 4 years and had just 6 INT's at least 1 of which was a gift as the QB of the opposing team overthrew it and it was easy pickings.

    I wish him the best in ATL. I'm glad he's not in Seattle though.



    I think he'll be more like his brother, a steadily reliable player but not an amazing player. I don't think they'll ever regret drafting him.
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  • This kid looks pretty impressive. He has the look of a NFL player.
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  • Worst thing I can say about Harper is that he demonstrates poor decision making. Decides he'd rather be a WR that catches passes in Bill Snyder's offense with Colin Klein as his QB, instead of in Chip Kelly's offense with Thomas/Mariotta as his QB??? Probably cost him 300+ yards this season alone.
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  • Snohomie wrote:Worst thing I can say about Harper is that he demonstrates poor decision making. Decides he'd rather be a WR that catches passes in Bill Snyder's offense with Colin Klein as his QB, instead of in Chip Kelly's offense with Thomas/Mariotta as his QB??? Probably cost him 300+ yards this season alone.


    If thats the worst thing you can say about him, then I'm good with that. He was an 18 year old kid when he made that decision; I think his reasons for transferring were reasonable considering his age, disappointment from having to switch from QB to WR, and wanting to be closer to home.

    Harper is going to be a fan favorite for Seahawk nation.
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  • Snohomie wrote:Worst thing I can say about Harper is that he demonstrates poor decision making. Decides he'd rather be a WR that catches passes in Bill Snyder's offense with Colin Klein as his QB, instead of in Chip Kelly's offense with Thomas/Mariotta as his QB??? Probably cost him 300+ yards this season alone.


    I saw somewhere today that he transferred to Kansas to be a quarterback. It didn't work out so he switched. That would mean he wasn't considering switching before he'd already switched schools. Don't think it's that big a deal, myself. Hell, he's giving up yardage coming to the Seahawks, because we're going to be a pound-the-rock-first team, and he's well down the depth chart. Still, doubt that really matters to him. He's got a legitimate chance at being a solid, productive player here. I probably like this pick more than any of the others.
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  • I like this kid a lot. He's exactly what I have been pounding the table for, a strong and physical type of WR that plays hard and will be an asset in the run game because of his blocking. Love this pick and I am rooting for this kid to become the next Boldin as some have compared him to.
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  • I'm reading all these Boldin comparisons and thinking "right" how do all these draft scouts come up with the same player comparison... then I watch the vids in this thread... Yep, Anquan Boldin.
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  • He fits the bill as the big, physical WR that I felt Seattle really needed. I like that he can catch outside his body and power opposing DBs for possession. He's also a very clean route runner. I don't love his apparent lack of downfield speed. I feel like he might have a modest ceiling, but he seems to add a much needed element to this receiving corps.

    Interested to see how he looks with a legitimate QB.
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  • rainger wrote:
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    rainger wrote:[quote="Shock2k"]Stupid ESPN was on a commercial break during our pick.

    Every year they always are. The Seattle pick doesnt matter to the talking heads and when we pick they are always talking about someone else.


    It's Round 4... they're done showing picks live.

    Calm down.

    You Calm down. I did not want them to show it live but at least TALK about the pick a bit. All they want to talk about is what the Jets/Giants etc are doing. I am allowed an opinion about the stupid media. You dont need to be my mother advising me.[/quote]

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  • Seahawk Sailor wrote:
    Snohomie wrote:Worst thing I can say about Harper is that he demonstrates poor decision making. Decides he'd rather be a WR that catches passes in Bill Snyder's offense with Colin Klein as his QB, instead of in Chip Kelly's offense with Thomas/Mariotta as his QB??? Probably cost him 300+ yards this season alone.


    I saw somewhere today that he transferred to Kansas to be a quarterback. It didn't work out so he switched. That would mean he wasn't considering switching before he'd already switched schools. Don't think it's that big a deal, myself. Hell, he's giving up yardage coming to the Seahawks, because we're going to be a pound-the-rock-first team, and he's well down the depth chart. Still, doubt that really matters to him. He's got a legitimate chance at being a solid, productive player here. I probably like this pick more than any of the others.


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  • This is my favorite Seahawks pick of the draft.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
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    JSeahawks wrote:Ex Duck QB. TOUGH TOUGH wr. Actually reminds me quite a bit of Brian Blades. Realy good run blocking WR as well. If you don't love the pick now I pretty much guarantee you'll love the player in a couple years.

    I like it!


    Looks like a very solid pick. Why did he transfer from Oregone????? Was he tired of the ugly uniform combos? :sarcasm_off:


    Lost the QB job.


    Sounds a bit immature. Looks like he fumbles quite a bit.

    Edit: I can see his decision now after reading why he might have made it. If he were promised one thing in order to leave his home state but then they didn't deliver...

    He needs to learn how to hold on to the ball though. That one handed isht won't cut it.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:How many texts do you think he's gotten from Russell so far?


    JaMarcus? one or two maybe?
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  • I have no opinion on this pick. I like his potential and I am glad that we drafted him but oh man, his QB sucks! I am just going to wait until he plays with Russell Wilson and see how he does. His college QB made it very difficult for me to judge him as a player. Like this pick though
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  • LawlessHawk wrote:I'm reading all these Boldin comparisons and thinking "right" how do all these draft scouts come up with the same player comparison... then I watch the vids in this thread... Yep, Anquan Boldin.


    I can also see where the "faster Boldin" comps come from, given his physicality - but IMO he doesn't have quite the hands yet (Boldin was a beast in that regard) The one comp that I saw that makes a ton of sense to me (because they have similar speed & it's another WR Schnieder drafter) ... James Jones.
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  • vedthree wrote:
    LawlessHawk wrote:I'm reading all these Boldin comparisons and thinking "right" how do all these draft scouts come up with the same player comparison... then I watch the vids in this thread... Yep, Anquan Boldin.


    I can also see where the "faster Boldin" comps come from, given his physicality - but IMO he doesn't have quite the hands yet (Boldin was a beast in that regard) The one comp that I saw that makes a ton of sense to me (because they have similar speed & it's another WR Schnieder drafter) ... James Jones.


    Chris Harper is bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic than Anquan Boldin in comparison to their best Combine and Pro Day measures and workout numbers.

    Chris Harper:
    6'1, 229
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.45
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.63
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.57
    225 Lb. Bench Reps: 20
    Vertical Jump: 35 1/2
    Broad Jump: 09'08"
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.26
    3-Cone Drill: 6.89

    Anquan Boldin:
    6'1, 216
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.72
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.77
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.61
    225 Lb. Bench Reps: N/A
    Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
    Broad Jump: 09'06"
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.33
    3-Cone Drill: 7.35

    Not by much in some categories but you also have to remember that Harper had 13 pounds on Boldin. Harper is still coming into his own as a WR, the kid is only going to get better and improve every year like he has in college.
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  • ivotuk wrote:
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    Sports Hernia wrote:Looks like a very solid pick. Why did he transfer from Oregone????? Was he tired of the ugly uniform combos? :sarcasm_off:


    Lost the QB job.


    Sounds a bit immature.


    Almost all big QB recruits who lose the battle transfer. Its just the nature of the beast. Only one can play, so if you lose the job you go somewhere else where maybe you can play.
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  • Pandion Haliaetus wrote:
    vedthree wrote:
    LawlessHawk wrote:I'm reading all these Boldin comparisons and thinking "right" how do all these draft scouts come up with the same player comparison... then I watch the vids in this thread... Yep, Anquan Boldin.


    I can also see where the "faster Boldin" comps come from, given his physicality - but IMO he doesn't have quite the hands yet (Boldin was a beast in that regard) The one comp that I saw that makes a ton of sense to me (because they have similar speed & it's another WR Schnieder drafter) ... James Jones.


    Chris Harper is bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic than Anquan Boldin in comparison to their best Combine and Pro Day measures and workout numbers.

    Chris Harper:
    6'1, 229
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.45
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.63
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.57
    225 Lb. Bench Reps: 20
    Vertical Jump: 35 1/2
    Broad Jump: 09'08"
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.26
    3-Cone Drill: 6.89

    Anquan Boldin:
    6'1, 216
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.72
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.77
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.61
    225 Lb. Bench Reps: N/A
    Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
    Broad Jump: 09'06"
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.33
    3-Cone Drill: 7.35

    Not by much in some categories but you also have to remember that Harper had 13 pounds on Boldin. Harper is still coming into his own as a WR, the kid is only going to get better and improve every year like he has in college.


    Which is wierd because when i watch Harper's Highlights he looks slow to me and lack explosiveness, and i always thought the opposite of a young Boldin. This pick doesn't really excite me but in Pete and John i trust.
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  • Snohomie wrote:
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    Snohomie wrote:Worst thing I can say about Harper is that he demonstrates poor decision making. Decides he'd rather be a WR that catches passes in Bill Snyder's offense with Colin Klein as his QB, instead of in Chip Kelly's offense with Thomas/Mariotta as his QB??? Probably cost him 300+ yards this season alone.


    I saw somewhere today that he transferred to Kansas to be a quarterback. It didn't work out so he switched. That would mean he wasn't considering switching before he'd already switched schools. Don't think it's that big a deal, myself. Hell, he's giving up yardage coming to the Seahawks, because we're going to be a pound-the-rock-first team, and he's well down the depth chart. Still, doubt that really matters to him. He's got a legitimate chance at being a solid, productive player here. I probably like this pick more than any of the others.


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  • Hey Seahawk fans:

    Just want to give you some insight into Chris Harper. I am from Wichita and my daughter goes to K State. Had the pleasure of watching Chris play in high school and college and know his family well.

    Chris, plain and simple, is a great human being from outstanding parents; one who will represent the city of Seattle and Seahawk nation in fine fashion. He will do anything asked of him on and off the field by team management and coaches and I predict you guys will fall in love with Chris Harper, the football player and the person, immediately.

    Now onto the football side of the equation. Chris played QB all through high school (except a little bit when he was a freshman when he played WR and RB) and his first year of college at Oregon. Fact of the matter is, Chris transferred back simply because he was homesick and was intrigued by the idea of playing for Bill Snyder, the sequel. His childhood friends, Arthur and Bryce Brown, ended up joining him at Kansas State after stints at other schools and his other buddy, Joe Randle, went to Oklahoma State. All four Wichitans will be in the NFL next year. Chris had his shot at QB at K State but the writing was on the wall that for his future and the success of the team, WR was the best position for him.

    His strengths are his IQ (high wonderlic score), his physicality (Boldin is a good comparison, Donald Driver is another), his amazing run blocking ability, and his improvement as a route runner. His hands are normally reliable and he will be a great 3rd and five type guy in the league. Had he played in a spread offense his numbers would have been just as ridiculous as the WV or Baylor guys. The one thing I couldn't figure out was why Snyder didn't use him more on WR screens or just throwing laterally to him down the line of scrimmage. There wasn't a corner in the league that could tackle him one on one and when K State did do it, it usually worked for nice yards.

    Chris has good speed but is not a burner. He creates separation with his brains and his power. All in all, I am prejudice, but I think you got a steal and the Seahawks are now my favorite team. Already planning a trip to St Louis this fall.
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  • Welcome to .net Joe. And thanks for the info. I too am excited for Harper.
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  • JoeShocker wrote:Hey Seahawk fans:

    Just want to give you some insight into Chris Harper. I am from Wichita and my daughter goes to K State. Had the pleasure of watching Chris play in high school and college and know his family well.

    Chris, plain and simple, is a great human being from outstanding parents; one who will represent the city of Seattle and Seahawk nation in fine fashion. He will do anything asked of him on and off the field by team management and coaches and I predict you guys will fall in love with Chris Harper, the football player and the person, immediately.

    Now onto the football side of the equation. Chris played QB all through high school (except a little bit when he was a freshman when he played WR and RB) and his first year of college at Oregon. Fact of the matter is, Chris transferred back simply because he was homesick and was intrigued by the idea of playing for Bill Snyder, the sequel. His childhood friends, Arthur and Bryce Brown, ended up joining him at Kansas State after stints at other schools and his other buddy, Joe Randle, went to Oklahoma State. All four Wichitans will be in the NFL next year. Chris had his shot at QB at K State but the writing was on the wall that for his future and the success of the team, WR was the best position for him.

    His strengths are his IQ (high wonderlic score), his physicality (Bolden is a good comparison, Donald Driver is another), his amazing run blocking ability, and his improvement as a route runner. His hands are normally reliable and he will be a great 3rd and five type guy in the league. Had he played in a spread offense his numbers would have been just as ridiculous as the WV or Baylor guys. The one thing I couldn't figure out was why Snyder didn't use him more on WR screens or just throwing laterally to him down the line of scrimmage. There wasn't a corner in the league that could tackle him one on one and when K State did do it, it usually worked for nice yards.

    Chris has good speed but is not a burner. He creates separation with his brains and his power. All in all, I am prejudice, but I think you got a steal and the Seahawks are now my favorite team. Already planning a trip to St Louis this fall.


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  • JoeShocker wrote:Hey Seahawk fans:

    Just want to give you some insight into Chris Harper. I am from Wichita and my daughter goes to K State. Had the pleasure of watching Chris play in high school and college and know his family well.

    Chris, plain and simple, is a great human being from outstanding parents; one who will represent the city of Seattle and Seahawk nation in fine fashion. He will do anything asked of him on and off the field by team management and coaches and I predict you guys will fall in love with Chris Harper, the football player and the person, immediately.

    Now onto the football side of the equation. Chris played QB all through high school (except a little bit when he was a freshman when he played WR and RB) and his first year of college at Oregon. Fact of the matter is, Chris transferred back simply because he was homesick and was intrigued by the idea of playing for Bill Snyder, the sequel. His childhood friends, Arthur and Bryce Brown, ended up joining him at Kansas State after stints at other schools and his other buddy, Joe Randle, went to Oklahoma State. All four Wichitans will be in the NFL next year. Chris had his shot at QB at K State but the writing was on the wall that for his future and the success of the team, WR was the best position for him.

    His strengths are his IQ (high wonderlic score), his physicality (Bolden is a good comparison, Donald Driver is another), his amazing run blocking ability, and his improvement as a route runner. His hands are normally reliable and he will be a great 3rd and five type guy in the league. Had he played in a spread offense his numbers would have been just as ridiculous as the WV or Baylor guys. The one thing I couldn't figure out was why Snyder didn't use him more on WR screens or just throwing laterally to him down the line of scrimmage. There wasn't a corner in the league that could tackle him one on one and when K State did do it, it usually worked for nice yards.

    Chris has good speed but is not a burner. He creates separation with his brains and his power. All in all, I am prejudice, but I think you got a steal and the Seahawks are now my favorite team. Already planning a trip to St Louis this fall.


    Sounds like my first impressions from his scouting reports. Someone closer to what we had in Mike Williams. Really wished it worked out with him.
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  • Thanks for the info JoeShocker. I have great memories of my time with Cessna at the Wallace plant. Wichita is an outstanding community. Great people. :th2thumbs:
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  • JoeShocker wrote:...he will be a great 3rd and five type guy in the league.

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    Chris has good speed but is not a burner. He creates separation with his brains and his power. All in all, I am prejudice, but I think you got a steal and the Seahawks are now my favorite team. Already planning a trip to St Louis this fall.


    Thanks for the input! These were my immediate impressions as well. I have modest expectations for him, but it would be great if he became a reliable third-and-medium option for us. I think that was something that was sorely missing from our offense, particularly in the first half of the year. I would consider it amazing if he could produce those first downs like Joe Jurevicius did for us in 2005.
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