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 Post subject: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Last Year Turbin had 80 carries as the backup. Who do you think see a majority of those snaps this year?


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Turbin is gonna get lots of third downs. Michael gets more goalline when Marshawn is out. And Turbin and Michael split when we're up 50 points.


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Don't care what anyone says, we're running the wishbone/triple option next year.


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jake206 wrote:
Don't care what anyone says, we're running the wishbone/triple option next year.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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How do they compare as pass blockers and receivers? That could play into it.


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I'm so happy Tom Cable is the real OC on this team. Old skool.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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We already run the ball more than any other team. I expect to have some comfortable leads next year that will keep the ball on the ground..even moreso. I have a feeling we are about to see what Turbin is really made of and I'm hoping for a level of competition that reminds of Watters vs. Alexander. Those were good (RB) times.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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This michael kid looks legit... im excited.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Michael will be 2nd string. While Turbin runs into tackles, this kid spins out of them. Turbin will probably transform into more of a 3rd down recieving back. I give Turbin a lot of cradit in that role though. Turbin has a knack of finding that 1st down marker and sprinting to it and getting just enough to move the chains. Plus when Turbins in, you still have to account for him as a runner on 3rd and long. Turbin is also above average in pass pro.

Watching Michael you can see he is clearly the better runner though. He reads his blocks quicker, fast and decisive on his cuts, and his spin move and tackle breaking ability is superior to Turbin. Its no surprise why Schneider wanted this guy with his 1st pick. He is an athletic freak. His 40 is good (not elite but NFL standards good), but its about his verticle and other stuff that makes this kid an amazing athlete. Upper body strength, etc.

I've talked to some A&M people and his whole deal with Sumlin was way over blown and frankly this kid excelled in the pro offense before Sumlin came in with his spread. An A&M guy told me he has the NCAA record for rushing yards in a game but I didn't bother verifying it.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Turbin will be the number two back but its keeps the competition flowing and its great for the team. Michael seems like the real deal .

I love the pick because if Marshawn goes down now we have two guys who can carry the load. I pray Marshawn keeps beasting but its nice to know that guys behind him can ball .


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Turbin will be most useful during the arm-wrestling tie-breaker that occurs during games that are still knotted after regulation.


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I'm on the convert Turbin to a John L Williams or Leonard Weaver type fullback band wagon.

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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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I'll take Michael. I'm not blown away by Turbs from a pure running back standpoint.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Michael is my guess. Turbin has the huge biceps but Michael has the legs. He brings the power


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Not sure. I'm pretty high on Turbin, and I think he ended up being a GREAT pick last year, but I'm not sure he has the potential to be a game changing back. I think Michael does have that potential, but Turbin might have the versatility to be on the field more next year. Love the pick, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Maybe they're gonna turn one of them into OLB. Finally this pick is making sense to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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We had an opening at RB after Leon was released. I see a lot of weapons on this offense.

Fine with the picks after reading up on them.

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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Look to see Turbin start to become Robinson's understudy, while Michael becomes Beast Mode's. That's how it's gonna go down.

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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Both, it's simple when they are all healthy the coaching staff will find a way to get everyone on the field, beastmode included. I'm just looking forward to seeing it all play out.


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I'll take Michael. I'm not blown away by Turbs from a pure running back standpoint.



Oh no you di-int. "Turbs"?


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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When I first saw this thread title, I thought it was for fantasy fighting or something.

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I know these are just a couple of snapshots, but it looks like Turbin could use some work on catching with his hands and not his body. He had a few unfortunate drops last season. If Michael is more of a natural "hands" catcher, it will be hard to keep him off the field.

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When I first saw this thread title, I thought it was for fantasy fighting or something.

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I know these are just a couple of snapshots, but it looks like Turbin could use some work on catching with his hands and not his body. He had a few unfortunate drops last season. If Michael is more of a natural "hands" catcher, it will be hard to keep him off the field.


I didnt read a word you typed after looking at Hulks biceps.


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The thing with Turbin seemed to always be a leg strength issue. His upper half is massive. I suspect he will have spent some time in the weight room working on that in the off season. Competition will be interesting. Especially if Lynch gets spanked for the DUI.

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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Turbin would make a great full back to eventually replace Mike Rob. Whether he wants or accepts it is a different matter. Michael seems to have more upside but I'm not giving up on Turbo either.

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I'm on the convert Turbin to a John L Williams or Leonard Weaver type fullback band wagon.


I like that idea. Huge John l fan.

This guy looks like a beast. I can't get over his thighs and athleticism.
A star in the league?

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I like what I saw from Turbin last year, especially in the passing game. Michael looks more explosive out of his cuts, and a more fluid runner in general. Slight edge to Michael as 2 down back, Turbin as 3rd down. Of course, 3rd down would depend on who is better at pass pro. Will be a great competition for Lynch's heir apparent.

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This guy looks like a beast. I can't get over his thighs and athleticism.
A star in the league?


Somebody's got a man-crush...

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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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Michaels looks like he explodes into his cuts and the hole better than Turbin, although not by much. Once again, you're looking at Turbin making cuts vs. NFL defenses while Michaels is tearing up NCAA defenses.

Turbin has more speed than anyone in our backfield not named Percy Harvin. I like all of our guys as receivers, but look at Turbin's routes; he gets downfield farther, faster, and gets more separation than either Lynch or Washington did last year, and I expect that to be the same with Michaels. Yes, our rookie is explosive, but 4.4 speed vs. 4.5 speed is still a significant difference, and yes Turbin's translates to the field.

Going to be an interesting competition.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbin vs Michael Who do you got?
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I've been saying it since he was drafted, but Turbin has the makings of a third down running back. For some reason, probably his biceps, people think he's a pure north/south bruiser. He doesn't have enough bulk in his lower body to be a fullback, IMO.

Turbin is a good receiver with good speed as a receiver. Michael is a pure running back, much less versatile.

Turbin replaces Washington as versatile running back. Michael is goal line specialist early on, and an eventual replacement for Marshawn.

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I agree nano. Turbin isn't a trucker, but he can be a weapon situationally and out of the backfield, just not as a Marshawn replacement. Either Michael or Ware on the other hand, those guys I can see as the horse.

Again the caveat, they have to do it against NFL defenses.


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