What If: Elway in Seattle

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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:26 pm
  • We would have won at least one Super Bowl, and I would argue anyone who listened that he was the greatest of all time.

    I would wear his jersey in the South end zone and name one of my children after him.

    I would have an autographed photo of that ugly, ass, reverse-centaur over my fireplace.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:54 pm
  • SalishHawkFan wrote:I think a dose of self honesty is in order here. I read the Niner post without looking at who posted it and thought nothing of it. When people jumped on him, I went back and looked and saw it was a Niner fan. Then I found myself agreeing that the post was snarky, but not until I knew it was a Niner fan that posted it.

    Radish is right. It wasn't offensive. I didn't think it was offensive. When I saw it was a Niner fan I was offended. Let's face it, had it not been a Niner fan saying it, no one would have gave two tits on a rats behind. It wasn't offensive in and of itself and we should let that one go due to the nature of the OP's question.


    100% agreement. Many of us like to overreact, and are a little sensitive when it comes to fans of other teams, especially the Whiners. And that is understandable. But I don't think Beeker's post was even close to being out of line.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:25 pm
  • Beeker49 wrote:Look y'all ... it really wasn't meant to be "snarky'. Yes, I worded it poorly, and I'll try NOT to do so in the future. I appreciate the feedback, in fact. I know y'all have had issues with Niner fans here, and I'm doing my best to NOT be one of "them". Hey, I honestly liked the Hawks when they were AFCW. I'm probably one of the few non-Hawks fans that knew they were ORIGINALLY in the NFCW in 1977 as well. I'll take my lumps when I"m being a smartass, dam right I will. And as long as the Hawks beat the Lambs and Cardinulls twice a year each, that makes me a happy man.

    In the end - this shit is gonna be good for a LONG time.


    I'm sure you're a terrific guy, but...

    http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/1 ... ds/page11/

    I question your motives.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:46 pm
  • E.C. Laloosh wrote:
    Beeker49 wrote:Look y'all ... it really wasn't meant to be "snarky'. Yes, I worded it poorly, and I'll try NOT to do so in the future. I appreciate the feedback, in fact. I know y'all have had issues with Niner fans here, and I'm doing my best to NOT be one of "them". Hey, I honestly liked the Hawks when they were AFCW. I'm probably one of the few non-Hawks fans that knew they were ORIGINALLY in the NFCW in 1977 as well. I'll take my lumps when I"m being a smartass, dam right I will. And as long as the Hawks beat the Lambs and Cardinulls twice a year each, that makes me a happy man.

    In the end - this shit is gonna be good for a LONG time.


    I'm sure you're a terrific guy, but...

    http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/1 ... ds/page11/

    I question your motives.


    We can throw Young2Rice in the "questionable motives" category as well.

    And people wonder why we hesitate to approve niner fans. Troll our board and go back to report about it.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:04 pm
  • Anyone saying that Elway wouldn't have immediately won and gel'd with the Seahawks is really showing their ignorance

    Also he wasn't being diplomatic. He's FROM Gig Harbor, Wife is from Tacoma, his whole family is in the Northwest

    He would have no problem playing here
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:05 pm
  • Call it trolling all you want. Ban me. I'll still enjoy being on the 49ers boards.

    And have a nice day.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:06 pm
  • E.C. Laloosh wrote:
    Beeker49 wrote:Look y'all ... it really wasn't meant to be "snarky'. Yes, I worded it poorly, and I'll try NOT to do so in the future. I appreciate the feedback, in fact. I know y'all have had issues with Niner fans here, and I'm doing my best to NOT be one of "them". Hey, I honestly liked the Hawks when they were AFCW. I'm probably one of the few non-Hawks fans that knew they were ORIGINALLY in the NFCW in 1977 as well. I'll take my lumps when I"m being a smartass, dam right I will. And as long as the Hawks beat the Lambs and Cardinulls twice a year each, that makes me a happy man.

    In the end - this shit is gonna be good for a LONG time.


    I'm sure you're a terrific guy, but...

    http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/1 ... ds/page11/

    I question your motives.

    Nice to see you trolling the WZ and reporting back HERE.

    See how that double standard works?
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:11 pm
  • WZ is a toilet. Just like Candlestick park.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:13 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:WZ is a toilet. Just like Candlestick park.

    Funny. Y'all should probably just go ahead and ban my account now, before I actually type something that WILL get me banned.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:20 pm
  • Beeker49 wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:WZ is a toilet. Just like Candlestick park.

    Funny. Y'all should probably just go ahead and ban my account now, before I actually type something that WILL get me banned.


    Will it be something about your youporn account?
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:23 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Beeker49 wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:WZ is a toilet. Just like Candlestick park.

    Funny. Y'all should probably just go ahead and ban my account now, before I actually type something that WILL get me banned.


    Will it be something about your youporn account?

    What, exactly, is a youporn account?
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:25 pm
  • I'm already getting heartburn here. Absolut, do something terrible.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:30 pm
  • Sounds like someone got caught and is acting out.

    Peaches, you probably have to refer to it as the "Premium Membership"
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:34 pm
  • For the love of god, don't ban him. Please. If he starts spouting obscenities in non-shacked forums, just delete them. I want him to live with his public shame.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:47 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:For the love of god, don't ban him. Please. If he starts spouting obscenities in non-shacked forums, just delete them. I want him to live with his public shame.

    I don't see any shame on my part. What's a shame is that I posted on the WZ, and that someone from .Net felt compelled to troll over there and report back HERE. Seems a little ... fishy .... to me ..... But anyways, do your worst. This is a CHAT FORUM ... no my life.

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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:51 pm
  • Beeker49 wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:WZ is a toilet. Just like Candlestick park.

    Funny. Y'all should probably just go ahead and ban my account now, before I actually type something that WILL get me banned.


    This post get my "Stick a fork in Beeker" vote.

    Peaches takes 8 simple words and forces Beeker into freaking out and threatening to say something to get him banned - oh no, don't do it Beeker,

    He went from having a thick skin in his OP, to not being able to handle a toilet reference to candlestick.

    I hope the best for you Beek, but this really could be an up hill battle.

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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:54 pm
  • Spokane wrote:
    Beeker49 wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:WZ is a toilet. Just like Candlestick park.

    Funny. Y'all should probably just go ahead and ban my account now, before I actually type something that WILL get me banned.


    This post get my "Stick a fork in Beeker" vote.

    Peaches takes 8 simple words and forces Beeker into freaking out and threatening to say something to get him banned - oh no, don't do it Beeker,

    He went from having a thick skin in his OP, to not being able to handle a toilet reference to candlestick.

    I hope the best for you Beek, but this really could be an up hill battle.

    On Topic, Dave K was better then Elway, All day!

    Nah, it wasn't what was said here. But no worries. If my Wilson is a pissant midget comment doesn't get me banned, so be it.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:06 pm
  • 4 months, 12 days until until 2013 kickof
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:09 pm
  • You have to do better than "Wilson is short," because he is.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:12 pm
  • Nice

    I ....... can't ..... help ..... it ..... the level of ignorance is drawing me in like a moth to the light ......


    Seems ones cred is high, so I look forward to some enlightening conversation. Not sure why Pithy's response to a request for access has to be posted along with one's eloquent response. I probably should have stayed away from that link posted earlier. There are some gems in there. I just wonder why grown folks on both side of the aisle act like they do. It is a simple game, we don't get paid. Yet we want to sit back and laugh at how stupid the other guy is.

    EDIT:

    Good stuff. Our poor Mt Rushmore and open letter to Winfield seem to have the boys howling.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:34 pm
  • That is a pretty good thread about enemy boards. Got to say besides the usual rival fan stuff there is some truths in that thread looking from a non-Seahawks fan point of view.

    I agree with this sentiment here

    I can't even read their site any more. You can try to have a logical conversation with them and they just go full on zealot mode. Look at their "NFL Nation" subforum; half the threads are 49ers related. Have you ever seen a fanbase with such an inferiority complex?
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:38 pm
  • Did Beeker say his Wilson is short and is in awe of our Wilson?
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:02 pm
  • drdiags wrote:That is a pretty good thread about enemy boards. Got to say besides the usual rival fan stuff there is some truths in that thread looking from a non-Seahawks fan point of view.

    I agree with this sentiment here

    I can't even read their site any more. You can try to have a logical conversation with them and they just go full on zealot mode. Look at their "NFL Nation" subforum; half the threads are 49ers related. Have you ever seen a fanbase with such an inferiority complex?


    Unavoidable. Happens in both. Fan forums after all...
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:46 am
  • Beeker49 wrote:Um, same results? No SB wins? *awaits hammering*


    You sound like a bitter old man, sadly remanencing of what once was.

    Sadder, is the fact your on a Seahawk board..I don't know who you are, or why your here, but for the most part, Trolls are like.. well, finding hair in your food.

    I mean really, the question "Um, same results?" why would you put that in? THis is not a smack down forum. So I figure you must be some idiot stirring up trouble. As far as I can tell the 49ers had one good decade in what.. since 46, about 70 years, and probably for 50 years of that, you have all been mediocre at best. Soo..yeah you guys are awesome and all we have is 42-13 by some undersized rookie qb, who according to you guys is far inferior to what the 9ers have in Kaep. 42- 13.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:45 am
  • To the actual question at hand if we had Elway instead of Warner? Obviously 20/20 hindsight says that a Superbowl or more would have been probable if not likely.
    43-8...it's all about that action boss....
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:52 am
  • Post #1:

    Beeker49 wrote:Anyways, I know I'll catch my fair share of grief, and that's cool - I've got thick skin.


    Post #40:

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    peachesenregalia wrote:WZ is a toilet. Just like Candlestick park.

    Funny. Y'all should probably just go ahead and ban my account now, before I actually type something that WILL get me banned.


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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:57 am
  • If Elway had been in Seattle, I would have had only nice things to say about Mr. Ed. Cuz it would have been awesome.

    BTW, Beeker is the first guy I have ever seen actually ask to get banned. I guess his skin is not as thick as he first claimed. I bet an actual trip to the C-link would have him in tears.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:44 am
  • Scottemojo wrote:BTW, Beeker is the first guy I have ever seen actually ask to get banned. I guess his skin is not as thick as he first claimed. I bet an actual trip to the C-link would have him in tears.


    And a banning seems like something he'd wear back on his home board as some kind of badge of honor (and likely as an attack on this board). I wouldn't give the satisfaction.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:01 am
  • Would have been happier with Marino at #3
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:09 am
  • Ray74 wrote:Would have been happier with Marino at #3


    Whether or not we'd have won a Super Bowl during his tenure, at the very least we'd have traded a Hall of Fame quarterback for Dave Krieg, Gale Gilbert, Bruce Mathison, Jeff Kemp, Kelly Stouffer, Stan Gelbaugh, Dan McGwire, Rick Mirer, John Friesz, Jon Kitna, and Warren Moon in the twilight of his career.

    That might have made a wee difference.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:13 am
  • Scottemojo wrote:
    BTW, Beeker is the first guy I have ever seen actually ask to get banned. I guess his skin is not as thick as he first claimed. I bet an actual trip to the C-link would have him in tears.


    then he'd have something more in common with kaepernik than a replica jersey!

    Also...

    Marino to Largent?

    I'm going to invent a time machine to make this happen.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:53 pm
  • On the topic of this thread: Elway is an absolute arrogant horrible person. He is one of the few NFL elite I've dealt with personally and he is the worst. I am very happy he was never a Ram, I don't care at all what he would have accomplished for the team. He is just despicable in person (based on my personal experience).

    On the thread jacked topic: very entertaining. I am registered at both this board and the WZ and enjoy commenting during the season on both as you play the Rams. I have always been treated nicely by both boards, and find this rivalry between your teams interesting and enjoyable.

    Beeker called us the "scrawny kid no one likes". I see you all seem to have a little more respect than that.

    Will be a fun season. Cannot wait.

    Oh, and I made a similiar post on WZ. Rams' fan loving all of the NFC W.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:44 am
  • RedAlice wrote:On the topic of this thread: Elway is an absolute arrogant horrible person. He is one of the few NFL elite I've dealt with personally and he is the worst. I am very happy he was never a Ram, I don't care at all what he would have accomplished for the team. He is just despicable in person (based on my personal experience).

    On the thread jacked topic: very entertaining. I am registered at both this board and the WZ and enjoy commenting during the season on both as you play the Rams. I have always been treated nicely by both boards, and find this rivalry between your teams interesting and enjoyable.

    Beeker called us the "scrawny kid no one likes". I see you all seem to have a little more respect than that.

    Will be a fun season. Cannot wait.

    Oh, and I made a similiar post on WZ. Rams' fan loving all of the NFC W.


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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:49 am
  • The Radish wrote:Mr. Ed was such an arrogant SOB I doubt the team would have played for him.

    Elway didn't seem to have any problem getting the Broncos to play for him. People could listen to Russell Wilson and confuse his confidence for arrogance if they didn't know him.


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    E.C. Laloosh wrote:I'm sure you're a terrific guy, but...
    http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/1 ... ds/page11/
    I question your motives.

    We can throw Young2Rice in the "questionable motives" category as well.
    And people wonder why we hesitate to approve niner fans. Troll our board and go back to report about it.

    Seriously? One of the reasons I have utter contempt for 49erswebzone is the fact that several times they automatically rejected my application for membership, and now I find we do (did) the same thing? Whatever happened to welcoming fans of other teams? I would have no problem with having a hair trigger on temp-bans, leading to permanent bans for repeat rules infractions, but this... I don't like it.

    And don't we do exactly the same thing here as they do there? We have had countless threads here enjoying ridiculous things said on other boards. I personally love me some schadenfreude when it's there to be had. It would be hypocritical of me to enjoy it here, and hold it against others for doing it in their house.

    And let's face it, responses in this thread have been all over the rationality spectrum.


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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:03 am
  • Good to know that "hesitate" = "automatically reject."
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:24 am
  • AbsolutNET wrote:Good to know that "hesitate" = "automatically reject."

    I didn't say that. But THIS certainly sounds like automatic rejection:

    The reason its been so quiet is we stopped allowing new member from there way last winter!
    49ers webzone: Win or lose, i hope you injure Sherman. Like a serious career ending injury. I don't want him to get paid.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:48 am
  • We delayed approving 9er accounts for a while when it got out of hand. Literaly 90% of all the new accounts were trolls. We've eased up on that and now email them before approval.

    Lets look at this rationally - how many new 49er members have we recently met? Does that indicate we are rejecting 9er fan applications?
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:49 pm
  • No, it doesn't. And I know I don't see the same things you see from where you are. I have no problem whatsoever of getting rid of trolls.

    My reactions was based on my experience of getting turned down without explanation. I had no intention of trolling (I'm not good at talking smack), but they had no way of knowing that without interacting with me. It just seemed very thought police-ish.


    All that said, if I was a mod, I would automatically reject any rustbucket fan, regardless of anything I ever said about welcoming other fans. ALL rustbucket fans are trolls.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:57 pm
  • I suppose I should say something about the actual topic, eh?

    It's hard to imagine how all else would have shaken out with John Elway and without Curt Warner. But if we could replace a Curt Warner-less 1984 and a half-recovered Curt Warner 1985 with fully healthy John Elway, our history would certainly have been different. I'd make that trade in a heartbeat.
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:06 pm
  • BlueTalon wrote:
    Hasselbeck wrote:And why did we pass on Dickerson for Warner again?

    We didn't pass on Dickerson. We traded for the 3rd pick, Dickerson was drafted 2nd.

    Actually, Seattle traded up to #2, then swapped with L.A. who had #3 because the FO had Warner rated slightly higher than Dickerson for Knox's system and knew the Rams were in love with Eric. Seattle traded their first (#9), second (#42) & third (#69) round picks to Houston for #2 overall. They then traded #2 overall to L.A for #3 and a pair of 4th rounders (#88 & #102).
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Re: What If: Elway in Seattle
Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:14 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:
    BlueTalon wrote:
    Hasselbeck wrote:And why did we pass on Dickerson for Warner again?

    We didn't pass on Dickerson. We traded for the 3rd pick, Dickerson was drafted 2nd.

    Actually, Seattle traded up to #2, then swapped with L.A. who had #3 because the FO had Warner rated slightly higher than Dickerson for Knox's system and knew the Rams were in love with Eric. Seattle traded their first (#9), second (#42) & third (#69) round picks to Houston for #2 overall. They then traded #2 overall to L.A for #3 and a pair of 4th rounders (#88 & #102).

    Really? Did not know that. Relying only on my memory from 30 years ago, I thought we straight-up traded our first three picks for #3. But now that you mention it, the two 4th round picks are tickling my memory a bit.

    All in all, I don't see how Eric Dickerson would have been that much better for our offense at the time. Curt Warner had a jitterbug aspect to him that really lent itself to our inconsistent O-line and offense. I don't remember Dickerson having that.

    Of course, we just established that my memory isn't 100% reliable after 3 decades, so me being wrong wouldn't surprise me too much.
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