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 Post subject: Re: Winfield Visiting Seattle
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Thurmond has been injured so much that someone else that can play at a high level would be a great improvement.

Also don't forget if we can swap Thurmond in and out as needed he may stay healthy all year...


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He's so physical against the run that I wonder if they are considering playing him at SS. Maybe Kam is getting cold feet?


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He might be a good backup to Sherman and Browner as well. I don't have much faith that Walter can go a whole season and its his last year under contract as well. I am a big fan of Lane, I thought he did well in his 2 games as the 5th DB. The big thing he has over all the rest of our DBs is speed. In mini camp last year he did a 4.39 and 4.40 which is the fastest on the team except perhaps for Harvin.


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He hadn't allowed a TD all year.

He's the best nickle back in the league.

Says something.


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All I know is if we get Winfield then the Flynn deal probably looks even better. He can probably be had for about $3 million on a one year deal with the right team. Cap space saved by trading Flynn for 2013 was $3.25 million.


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Sign him to the veterans minimum and let him compete. Although I'd prefer Thurmond and Lane.

You might want to do a little homework before posting things like this, because saying that you prefer two wholly unproven options (incl. one with a major injury history) to the premier nickel/slot corner in the entire NFL is patently absurd. Also, Winfield isn't signing "for the minimum" somewhere "to compete" like he's some form of camp fodder. He's an elite player at what he does, he has a healthy offer on the table from the Redskins to be a starter, the Vikings are trying to get him back, and anyone who wants him is going to have to pony up.


Thank you for the advice. I will be sure and do a minimum of 15 minutes research before sharing my meaningless opinion in each post from this point forward.

I understand he's very good at what he does. I also know that he's 35 and that his coverage skills have already begun to decline rather dramatically although he's still very good against the run. Thurmond is the 2nd best cover corner on the team when healthy and Lane showed me a lot last year as well. I'd much rather have a decade of each of those guys then 1 year of Winfield. (although i'd gladly take all 3 and lose Trufant and Maxwell).

Doesnt surprise me that the REdskins would offer to pay him a lot of money, their owner is one of the biggest idiots in the NFL. If Winfield is their starter on the outside WR's are going to be licking their chops, and fighting to line up across from him.

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Sign him to the veterans minimum and let him compete. Although I'd prefer Thurmond and Lane.

You might want to do a little homework before posting things like this, because saying that you prefer two wholly unproven options (incl. one with a major injury history) to the premier nickel/slot corner in the entire NFL is patently absurd. Also, Winfield isn't signing "for the minimum" somewhere "to compete" like he's some form of camp fodder. He's an elite player at what he does, he has a healthy offer on the table from the Redskins to be a starter, the Vikings are trying to get him back, and anyone who wants him is going to have to pony up.


Thank you for the advice. I will be sure and do a minimum of 15 minutes research before sharing my meaningless opinion in each post from this point forward.

I understand he's very good at what he does. I also know that he's 35 and that his coverage skills have already begun to decline rather dramatically although he's still very good against the run. Thurmond is the 2nd best cover corner on the team when healthy and Lane showed me a lot last year as well. I'd much rather have a decade of each of those guys then 1 year of Winfield. (although i'd gladly take all 3 and lose Trufant and Maxwell).

Doesnt surprise me that the REdskins would offer to pay him a lot of money, their owner is one of the biggest idiots in the NFL. If Winfield is their starter on the outside WR's are going to be licking their chops, and fighting to line up across from him.


Dude, Thurmond has proved absolutely nothing. I just dont undersrand the love fest there. He has been serviceable at best when he is actually on the field. 1 year of elite play at one of our primary weak points is a huge gain. If Thurmond and lane are so great have them try and beat out Winfield. Good luck.

Who were the other DBS on he Vikings? Crickets. Now imagine other elite players around Winfield. Good stuff. Lets win now and develop guys like lane. We don't have to push him into a starting role just because. Signing a great player for one year is not going to hinde anyone development.


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He's so physical against the run that I wonder if they are considering playing him at SS. Maybe Kam is getting cold feet?

That is probably the weirdest first post I have seen on this board.

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Dude, Thurmond has proved absolutely nothing. I just dont undersrand the love fest there. He has been serviceable at best when he is actually on the field. Calling him our second best cover guy is asinine. 1 year of elite play at one of our primary weak points is a huge gain. If Thurmond and lane are so great have them try and beat out Winfield. Good luck.


Alright. Since calling him our 2nd best cover cb is so asinine then there must be an obvious answer who is better. If not Thurmond who is our 2nd best cover man? Don't tell me Browner. Browner's a very good CB, much better all around then Thurmond. But its due to his physicality and beastlyness. Not due to his coverage ability.

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Dude, Thurmond has proved absolutely nothing. I just dont undersrand the love fest there. He has been serviceable at best when he is actually on the field. Calling him our second best cover guy is asinine. 1 year of elite play at one of our primary weak points is a huge gain. If Thurmond and lane are so great have them try and beat out Winfield. Good luck.


Alright. Since calling him our 2nd best cover cb is so asinine then there must be an obvious answer who is better. If not Thurmond who is our 2nd best cover man? Don't tell me Browner. Browner's a very good CB, better all around then Thurmond. But its due to his physicality and beastlyness. Not due to his coverage ability.


Show me their numbers against each other. All five of thurmonds snaps. Reliablity is extremely important.

It's like calling Matt Flynn elite based on his nine passes last year.


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Dude, Thurmond has proved absolutely nothing. I just dont undersrand the love fest there. He has been serviceable at best when he is actually on the field. Calling him our second best cover guy is asinine. 1 year of elite play at one of our primary weak points is a huge gain. If Thurmond and lane are so great have them try and beat out Winfield. Good luck.


Alright. Since calling him our 2nd best cover cb is so asinine then there must be an obvious answer who is better. If not Thurmond who is our 2nd best cover man? Don't tell me Browner. Browner's a very good CB, better all around then Thurmond. But its due to his physicality and beastlyness. Not due to his coverage ability.


Show me their numbers against each other. All five of thurmonds snaps. Reliablity is extremely important.


Thats a completely different argument. I agree Thurmond isnt very reliable. Which is why I said i would like to have all 3 of Thurmond, Lane and Winfield.

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Seemed like you were advocating Thurmond and lane over Winfield pretty hard there. Thurmond admittedly being extremely unreliable in both skill and play time, or lane a second year small school guy who primarily is an outside guy. Don't get me wrong, I want our guys to develop and hope they turn into gems. I just think Winfield has proven his craft. We want to upgrade in every way possible. If we don't sign him, I would be shocked if we don't draft a player to compete with the others. Can't imagine we are happy with the play at that spot (or present talent level). Tru playing ahead of those guys all year says a lot.


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I wanted Woodson, but the more I think about it this signing would be outstanding too. Charles has the ability to play 3rd safety, however I bridge Winfield's overall game right NOW makes up for that. Him as our nickel would be insane

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Seemed like you were advocating Thurmond and lane over Winfield pretty hard there. Thurmond admittedly being extremely unreliable in both skill and play time, or lane a second year small school guy who primarily is an outside guy. Don't get me wrong, I want our guys to develop and hope they turn into gems. I just think Winfield has proven his craft. We want to upgrade in every way possible. If we don't sign him, I would be shocked if we don't draft a player to compete with the others. Can't imagine we are happy with the play at that spot (or present talent level). Tru playing ahead of those guys all year says a lot.


I was advocating signing Winfield for the smallest amount possible then letting them all compete in camp. I'd prefer that Thurmond and Lane win that combination based on them possibly having long term futures with the team.

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I'd just like to throw out there the success Carroll and Schneider have had drafting and then developing secondary players. I don't think it's beyond possibility that either Lane, Thurmond, or even a rookie is better than what Winfield, at 35, could give us this year. Lane seems like good depth on the outside and, of course, Thurmond hasn't been able to stay healthy, but I wouldn't be surprised if they make for viable options in Training Camp.

That said I'm also not opposed to bringing Winfield in because his tackling, wiles, and short area quickness might still be perfect for the slot. If it's a decent short term deal it might be too good to pass up.

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I don't feel bad about this idea...


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This guy is a stud who has performed in a professional manner for a long long time. A quintessential student of the game who will probably go down in history as the greatest cornerback vs the run over his entire career in the history of the game.

Would be a much better signing than Woodson, who many were clamoring for.

You know more about Vikings players than anyone, so I second your endorsement.

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Winfield is the best DB in the slot in the NFL. It is exactly what the Seahawks needs.


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Coug_Hawk08 wrote:
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Sign him to the veterans minimum and let him compete. Although I'd prefer Thurmond and Lane.

You might want to do a little homework before posting things like this, because saying that you prefer two wholly unproven options (incl. one with a major injury history) to the premier nickel/slot corner in the entire NFL is patently absurd. Also, Winfield isn't signing "for the minimum" somewhere "to compete" like he's some form of camp fodder. He's an elite player at what he does, he has a healthy offer on the table from the Redskins to be a starter, the Vikings are trying to get him back, and anyone who wants him is going to have to pony up.

Thank you for the advice. I will be sure and do a minimum of 15 minutes research before sharing my meaningless opinion in each post from this point forward.

I understand he's very good at what he does. I also know that he's 35 and that his coverage skills have already begun to decline rather dramatically although he's still very good against the run. Thurmond is the 2nd best cover corner on the team when healthy and Lane showed me a lot last year as well. I'd much rather have a decade of each of those guys then 1 year of Winfield. (although i'd gladly take all 3 and lose Trufant and Maxwell).

Doesnt surprise me that the REdskins would offer to pay him a lot of money, their owner is one of the biggest idiots in the NFL. If Winfield is their starter on the outside WR's are going to be licking their chops, and fighting to line up across from him.


Dude, Thurmond has proved absolutely nothing. I just dont undersrand the love fest there. He has been serviceable at best when he is actually on the field. 1 year of elite play at one of our primary weak points is a huge gain. If Thurmond and lane are so great have them try and beat out Winfield. Good luck.

Who were the other DBS on he Vikings? Crickets. Now imagine other elite players around Winfield. Good stuff. Lets win now and develop guys like lane. We don't have to push him into a starting role just because. Signing a great player for one year is not going to hinde anyone development.

Thurmond is a duck, J is a duck. FWIW I like III, dude just can't stay on the field though.

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If winfield is better than anything we have you sign him. The first SB is the hardest. We can worry about the others later. :D


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The perfect veteran addition to our defense. I'd prefer him to Woodson, Urlacher, Freeney, or Abraham as it stands right now. He would be an immediate upgrade at one of our teams biggest weaknesses. This would be an instant impact move and I see no downside here, he'd keep the young DB's in line, make plays and give us more flexability in the draft.

I am for drafting a nickel CB but to get a potential starting nickle CB we'd have to spend a 2nd or 3rd. Wouldn't you rather use that somewhere else?

Could it be that Lane and Maxwell are not meant for the slot? WT3 is soo injury prone that unless he absolutly dominates when he gets on the field his roster spot needs to be considered available.

Let's get Winfield and when we play in the SB against Denver or NE he will match up perfect against Welker or Amendola

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For a nickel back, this would be an incredible steal.

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Thurmond is a duck, J is a duck. FWIW I like III, dude just can't stay on the field though.

I'm a husky and I think Thurmond is an incredible talent, what's your point?

If Thurmond could stay healthy, wow our secondary would be that much more incredible. Thurmond could play either starting CB spot and I believe there wouldn't be a huge drop off in our CB play. The problem is we can't count on him, but that shouldn't take away from his talent. And yes, I'm basing MY OPINION off the small size of Thurmond on the field.

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He's so physical against the run that I wonder if they are considering playing him at SS. Maybe Kam is getting cold feet?

That is probably the weirdest first post I have seen on this board.

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Thanks. Just trying to think outside the box. Obviously he is more nickel material and most likely insurance for Thurman. But Kam's contract situation reminds me a little of Clem's last year. Signing Winfield could also add some insurance for a Kam holdout if we are willing to move him around for run support. After all we are trying to extend Kam and with the freed up cap space from Flynn's trade, it seems a little wierd to be bringing in another vet when JS is on record saying we are working on our own guys. Especially when we can front load Kam's deal right now, no?


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You might want to do a little homework before posting things like this, because saying that you prefer two wholly unproven options (incl. one with a major injury history) to the premier nickel/slot corner in the entire NFL is patently absurd. Also, Winfield isn't signing "for the minimum" somewhere "to compete" like he's some form of camp fodder. He's an elite player at what he does, he has a healthy offer on the table from the Redskins to be a starter, the Vikings are trying to get him back, and anyone who wants him is going to have to pony up.


Thank you for the advice. I will be sure and do a minimum of 15 minutes research before sharing my meaningless opinion in each post from this point forward.

I understand he's very good at what he does. I also know that he's 35 and that his coverage skills have already begun to decline rather dramatically although he's still very good against the run. Thurmond is the 2nd best cover corner on the team when healthy and Lane showed me a lot last year as well. I'd much rather have a decade of each of those guys then 1 year of Winfield. (although i'd gladly take all 3 and lose Trufant and Maxwell).

Doesnt surprise me that the REdskins would offer to pay him a lot of money, their owner is one of the biggest idiots in the NFL. If Winfield is their starter on the outside WR's are going to be licking their chops, and fighting to line up across from him.


Dude, Thurmond has proved absolutely nothing. I just dont undersrand the love fest there. He has been serviceable at best when he is actually on the field. 1 year of elite play at one of our primary weak points is a huge gain. If Thurmond and lane are so great have them try and beat out Winfield. Good luck.

Who were the other DBS on he Vikings? Crickets. Now imagine other elite players around Winfield. Good stuff. Lets win now and develop guys like lane. We don't have to push him into a starting role just because. Signing a great player for one year is not going to hinde anyone development.


The nature of Jseahawks' opinion becomes a little clearer when you understand that he's an Oregon U homer, and Walter Thurmond III is an Oregon U alumnus. For the record, I agree with you in that he's yet to truly prove himself for any reasonable length of time. Any player can look awesome when their sample size is about 5 minutes of film.

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From the descriptions he sounds like a nice addition. I am from Oregon. I think Thurmond has had his chance and Marcus is not a option anymore as a rotational player. If this guy is good vs the run it means he has physical presence but I think Tru was good vs run too. As a fan I want a corner that isn't burned like Toast every third.

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I'm sold. Get it done son.


I'll give you 16 to 1 odds that Winfield is a Seahawk by next week. Book it, literally.

Seriously though, I would be all about this move. When it comes to Minnesota Vikings joining the Seahawks, I trust bestfightstory's knowledge on the matter. If bfs thinks Winfield is the man then HE'S MANN!!! I honestly can't believe Winfield is still as effective as he is. Most corners hit the wall fast when they get old (Madison, Tru, Surtain, the list goes on and on), not this dude. And he hits like a mofo, IMO the perfect fit at Nickel CB and not only that but with Winfield/Lane/the idea of Walter Thurmond III/Maxwell/possible draftee you're almost guaranteed to improve upon Tru's performance in the position last season.

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I like it. If he's available at a reasonable price, it just adds depth to one of our areas of strength. I'm comfortable with WTIII and Gay, but Winfield is a more proven commodity, and adds experience as well. It's a no lose proposition IMO.


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The nature of Jseahawks' opinion becomes a little clearer when you understand that he's an Oregon U homer, and Walter Thurmond III is an Oregon U alumnus. For the record, I agree with you in that he's yet to truly prove himself for any reasonable length of time. Any player can look awesome when their sample size is about 5 minutes of film.


Ah, I forgot that Jseahawks was all about the O.

I bet the Raiders watched those 5 minutes closely, and are strongly considering sending us 2 future draft picks for him.


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The nature of Jseahawks' opinion becomes a little clearer when you understand that he's an Oregon U homer, and Walter Thurmond III is an Oregon U alumnus. For the record, I agree with you in that he's yet to truly prove himself for any reasonable length of time. Any player can look awesome when their sample size is about 5 minutes of film.


That's fine, and I understand taking what I say about Ducks with a grain of salt, but also please understand that I love the Seahawks 10 x's more then i love my Ducks. I'd be perfectly fine with Seattle never having another Oregon player on their roster as long as they have somebody better. And when I share my opinion on former Duck players its based on how they could help Seattle or not, not based on the fact that they were once Ducks. (For example, I thought Max Unger was never going to be a very good center. I would have been perfectly fine with the Seahawks getting rid of him after his first couple of year. I'm glad to have been wrong on that one.)

For the recorrd, i've been pro signing Winfield from the start. I'm just saying I think Thurmond can beat him out in camp making Winfield our 4th corner, rather than our 3rd.

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I would love this signing. It would also allow us to keep Thurmond, who can play when he's on the field, and maybe let him heal/give him a timeshare at that slot corner position.

I like Lane quite a bit, but he's much better on the outside than the inside.

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I wanted Winfield in '99 coming out of Ohio State, but no, Holmgren in his fledgling years of playing GM went for "need" and drafted Lamar King, from Nawgunna Playlong St. We selected King with the 22nd pick, the Vikings took Winfield with the 23rd. 14 years later and we have an opportunity to right that wrong.

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I wanted Winfield in '99 coming out of Ohio State, but no, Holmgren in his fledgling years of playing GM went for "need" and drafted Lamar King, from Nawgunna Playlong St. We selected King with the 22nd pick, the Vikings took Winfield with the 23rd. 14 years later and we have an opportunity to right that wrong.


Great post dude. Way to bring the knowledge! I hadn't even thought about this! What a truly awful decision.

One day I hope to start a 10 page thread on Lamar King. I wonder what he's up to at this very moment?

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Oh man, I hope Winfield flies in to Seattle and doesn't want to leave. He would be a great addition. We would go from having a nickel defense that was more of a liability (slot corner, specifically) and all of the sudden it becomes a strength. As has been mentioned, Winfield has arguably been the best slot corner in the league for the past while, and although he is getting up there in age, he would be a solid addition.

Veteran leader that can pack a solid hit, and fits in nicely with the Legion of Boom. I wonder how the acquisition of Percy Harvin will effect Winfield's decision to come to Seattle, if at all.

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Figures it rains its butt off when he visits


According to the reports above he's visiting on Wednesday. Supposed to be fairly nice with just a few showers.

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The nature of Jseahawks' opinion becomes a little clearer when you understand that he's an Oregon U homer, and Walter Thurmond III is an Oregon U alumnus. For the record, I agree with you in that he's yet to truly prove himself for any reasonable length of time. Any player can look awesome when their sample size is about 5 minutes of film.


That's fine, and I understand taking what I say about Ducks with a grain of salt, but also please understand that I love the Seahawks 10 x's more then i love my Ducks. I'd be perfectly fine with Seattle never having another Oregon player on their roster as long as they have somebody better. And when I share my opinion on former Duck players its based on how they could help Seattle or not, not based on the fact that they were once Ducks. (For example, I thought Max Unger was never going to be a very good center. I would have been perfectly fine with the Seahawks getting rid of him after his first couple of year. I'm glad to have been wrong on that one.)

For the recorrd, i've been pro signing Winfield from the start. I'm just saying I think Thurmond can beat him out in camp making Winfield our 4th corner, rather than our 3rd.


I don't disagree that Thurmond has the ability to beat Winfield in camp, but given he's been in the league for three years and can't stay healthy, is it even worth the risk of giving him priority on the snaps in practice?

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Pete's all about having a strong secondary. You know he won't add a player that would weaken that. It sounds like the guy could still compete and produce.

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Alright. Since calling him our 2nd best cover cb is so asinine then there must be an obvious answer who is better. If not Thurmond who is our 2nd best cover man? Don't tell me Browner. Browner's a very good CB, much better all around then Thurmond. But its due to his physicality and beastlyness. Not due to his coverage ability.


J, you really think Thurmond is better in coverage than Browner? Was it Thurmond's zero career INT's that made you feel this way, or his two passes defensed in the last 16 games he's played in? :P

Stats source:http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13473/walter-thurmond

I'm happy Thurmond is on the team, I still think he has a lot of potential. But Winfield could really help us.


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Alright. Since calling him our 2nd best cover cb is so asinine then there must be an obvious answer who is better. If not Thurmond who is our 2nd best cover man? Don't tell me Browner. Browner's a very good CB, much better all around then Thurmond. But its due to his physicality and beastlyness. Not due to his coverage ability.


J, you really think Thurmond is better in coverage than Browner? Was it Thurmond's zero career INT's that made you feel this way, or his two passes defensed in the last 16 games he's played in? :P

Stats source:http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13473/walter-thurmond

I'm happy Thurmond is on the team, I still think he has a lot of potential. But Winfield could really help us.


If you're covering your opponent so well that the QB is not likely to throw his way then you're not likely to get many passes defensed or interceptions.

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IIRC, Browner was behind Thurmond on the depth chart before TIII got hurt.

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I hope this is more than a rumor. Winfield would be a great addition if he works out.

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In a passing league, got to have a great secondary.

I would be on board with Winfield back there, could be a move like when the Saints got Sharper for their Superbowl season. Slot corner, can play outside in an emergency, maybe even allow earl to move around more in some packages or Kam to play pass-rusher more.

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With strong run support from both Bam Bam and Winfield, I see a lot of nickle packages in our base defense.

Now just draft a big body DT with our 2nd round pick


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Winfield would be an instant upgrade and the best possibly option IMO. the dude makes 100 tackles a year and didnt give a touchdown during the 2012 season .

For those wondering why Walter Thurmond , should just stop there because he just got hurt again.


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Our 2 biggest killers last year were the slot corner's inability to cover and tackle (Winfield would be a plus here as he is one of the best tacklers there is), and our late season struggles against the run, something else Antoine is good at stopping.

Put him in Trufant's spot and limit his playing time throughout the season so that he can be a run-stopping monster late in the season when our defense struggles (if it does).

Antoine Winfield can be our Lawyer Milloy, elderly statesman that can still play at a high level but whose technique can rub off on the younger guys that are slated to replace him in 2014.

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We also have to remember the further pusification of our game. New rules make it harder for the RB to lower his head and gain the couple of extra yards. This is becoming a pass only league.


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