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 Post subject: Idea: Tim Tebow
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What do you guys think of bringing on Tim Tebow as a FB/TE (and on desperate occassions, QB)?

I think he could make a nice understudy for Mike Rob.


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May a thousand miniature Jim Harbaughs infest your genitalia for even mentioning this topic...

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I like Tebow as a competitior/athlete but no way am I giving up a draft pick for him.


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FB maybe, but i don't see the FO carrying two fullbacks. Is it really the kind of position that you have an understudy? You can get a lot of value at the running-back position in the draft as it is with the league trending towards the pass.

Not as a TE. I'd rather we draft one that is already a TE since we have Darren Fells as a project.

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He can't play QB and is a project at FB/TE, and as someone above said, we have a FB and won't carry two, and we also have a project TE already.

I don't see the fit here. Add to this that Tebow wants to play QB, and I don't see a fit at all.

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what a unique idea that hasn't been brought up a bunch of times already!


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I think he's a bit tall for a fullback. Besides I don't want Tebow or his Tebow maniacs anywhere near this franchise.


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 Post subject: Re: Idea: Tim Tebow
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I'd rather have Tebow than Thigpen or Leinart. There are many options I'd consider before Tebow though.


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I said last offseason that we should trade our 2nd and a conditional 5th to the Broncos for Tebow. My history of QB evaluations is beyond pathetic, so that statement was pretty par for the course for me.

I'd still be content with bringing him in once he's inevitably cut from the Jets. He has some coachable talent, and you know he'll buy in.


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May a thousand miniature Jim Harbaughs infest your genitalia for even mentioning this topic...

So no.


LOL couldn't have said it better. The guy is a circus show. The only reason to bring him in would be to make Golden Tate feel better about his throwing motion!


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I'd rather have Tim Tebow than say... a raging case of chlamydia... but other than that; no thank you.

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We already gave up our 1st rounder, so I'm not sure we have enough bargaining chips left.


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I'd rather have Tim Tebow than say... a raging case of chlamydia... but other than that; no thank you.


That's doubly harsh, because you already have chlamydia.

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if i had a choice of getting stung by 1000 bees at once or seeing tebow in a seahawks uni...i'd...i'd...i'd take my chances with the bees...


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We already gave up our 1st rounder, so I'm not sure we have enough bargaining chips left.


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I love Strap's recent contributions. Can I get a "pehawk sucks?"

I want Tebow for ONE reason, his delicious lips. Gay or straight, they're juicy and inviting.

In ALL seriousness, I'm willing to be bashed for it, but I'd welcome it. I've said it before, Tebow would actually do better here than anywhere else due to the offensive system.


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Tebow would be a welcome addition under the right terms. He has talent. He's a horrible passer, which makes it all the more remarkable that he had a clearly winning effect on Denver during his time there. Tebow's only as bad as he is. Because of the way human cognition works, people lets hoards of idiots mocking him mercilessly calibrate the magnitude of his "badness". The more people who mock in forums, the worse he must be!

I also enjoy having sideshows on the teams I root for. Unless there's direct personal animosity between directly interacting parts of a team, sideshows don't lose games, except in the imaginations of people who let their annoyance bias their POV.


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Why would you want thousands of Tebow's followers using every idiotic argument in the book no matter how devoid of football sense to convince us why Tebow should start rather then Wilson? Because no matter how good Wilson is, those morons and the media that actually thinks America cares about Tebow's following would rage on about it endlessly.

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So far, the most prevalent reason for not considering Tebow is that his fans are asshats and 12s are just too exclusive a club to allow said asshattery. Yeah... those are really good football reasons. I bet some of you said the same about Pete Carroll... too corny, too rah rah, hate USC, proven to suck at the pro-level, blah blah blah.


Whatever the conventional "wisdom", I'd consider Tebow at the expense of my genitalia, orifices, etc


"Tebow's only as bad as he is. Because of the way human cognition works, people lets hoards of idiots mocking him mercilessly calibrate the magnitude of his "badness". The more people who mock in forums, the worse he must be!"


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So far, the most prevalent reason for not considering Tebow is that his fans are asshats and 12s are just too exclusive a club to allow said asshattery. Yeah... those are really good football reasons. I bet some of you said the same about Pete Carroll... too corny, too rah rah, hate USC, proven to suck at the pro-level, blah blah blah.



"Tebow's only as bad as he is. Because of the way human cognition works, people lets hoards of idiots mocking him mercilessly calibrate the magnitude of his "badness". The more people who mock in forums, the worse he must be!"


Here's the valid reason you're searching for.

Tebow doesn't seem to be willing to take a FB/TE role. He could probably be very good with that role. But he seems to be determined to compete as a QB, and he's just not a viable option at that position.

But even on the off chance he was willing to make the switch, the media circus that comes with him is problematic. That's not his fault (entirely), but it could present a distraction for the team. And you have to wonder if having that extra FB/TE is worth the potential distraction.

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I'm not going to dignfy this thread with anything even remotely resembling a response.

Ok, I'll play along. . .

I'd have to submit a response exactly duplicating what the above gentlemen has already issued. Tebow is a over-hyped drama queen who has gotten lucky enough times to fool people into thinking he has skills.

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So far, the most prevalent reason for not considering Tebow is that his fans are asshats and 12s are just too exclusive a club to allow said asshattery. Yeah... those are really good football reasons. I bet some of you said the same about Pete Carroll... too corny, too rah rah, hate USC, proven to suck at the pro-level, blah blah blah.



"Tebow's only as bad as he is. Because of the way human cognition works, people lets hoards of idiots mocking him mercilessly calibrate the magnitude of his "badness". The more people who mock in forums, the worse he must be!"


Here's the valid reason you're searching for.

Tebow doesn't seem to be willing to take a FB/TE role. He could probably be very good with that role. But he seems to be determined to compete as a QB, and he's just not a viable option at that position.

But even on the off chance he was willing to make the switch, the media circus that comes with him is problematic. That's not his fault (entirely), but it could present a distraction for the team. And you have to wonder if having that extra FB/TE is worth the potential distraction.



Do you feel the same way about Sherman and Mike Rob?

Twitter war, media circus, youtube shows, where do you draw the line?

What drew more attention to the Jets last season? Jets losing record, Sanchez's buttfumble, Rex Ryans tattoo or Tim Tebow?


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So far, the most prevalent reason for not considering Tebow is that his fans are asshats and 12s are just too exclusive a club to allow said asshattery. Yeah... those are really good football reasons. I bet some of you said the same about Pete Carroll... too corny, too rah rah, hate USC, proven to suck at the pro-level, blah blah blah.


Whatever the conventional "wisdom", I'd consider Tebow at the expense of my genitalia, orifices, etc


"Tebow's only as bad as he is. Because of the way human cognition works, people lets hoards of idiots mocking him mercilessly calibrate the magnitude of his "badness". The more people who mock in forums, the worse he must be!"


Reasons why bringing Tim Tebow to Seattle is a non-starter.

1. He can't throw.
2. He can't throw.
3. He can't throw.

He's everything you could ever want from a quarterback except for that. Bit of a problem. You seem to think it's a personal thing but the reality is fans want their team to win so bad you can be a rapist in this league and the fans will want you if you can play the position at a high level. It's not because of his beliefs or the backlash against the cult of personality. That argument just doesn't stand up to reality. Which is Tim Tebow can't throw.

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I'm not going to dignfy this thread with anything even remotely resembling a response.

Ok, I'll play along. . .

I'd have to submit a response exactly duplicating what the above gentlemen has already issued. Tebow is a over-hyped drama queen who has gotten lucky enough times to fool people into thinking he has skills.



Thanks for the dignified response. You could have sprinkled genitalia and orifices in there somewhere.


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So far, the most prevalent reason for not considering Tebow is that his fans are asshats and 12s are just too exclusive a club to allow said asshattery. Yeah... those are really good football reasons. I bet some of you said the same about Pete Carroll... too corny, too rah rah, hate USC, proven to suck at the pro-level, blah blah blah.



"Tebow's only as bad as he is. Because of the way human cognition works, people lets hoards of idiots mocking him mercilessly calibrate the magnitude of his "badness". The more people who mock in forums, the worse he must be!"


Here's the valid reason you're searching for.

Tebow doesn't seem to be willing to take a FB/TE role. He could probably be very good with that role. But he seems to be determined to compete as a QB, and he's just not a viable option at that position.

But even on the off chance he was willing to make the switch, the media circus that comes with him is problematic. That's not his fault (entirely), but it could present a distraction for the team. And you have to wonder if having that extra FB/TE is worth the potential distraction.



Do you feel the same way about Sherman and Mike Rob?

Twitter war, media circus, youtube shows, where do you draw the line?

What drew more attention to the Jets last season? Jets losing record, Sanchez's buttfumble, Rex Ryans tattoo or Tim Tebow?


Tebow at first. The only reason the rest of your examples gained more attention was because the Jets kept Tebow parked on the sidelines.

As for Sherman and Mike Rob, Robinson does his own videos and he's not even in the same atmosphere as Tebow when it comes to media coverage.

Sherman is closer, but the difference is that he's a playmaker and much better at his position than Tebow is at his.

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So far, the most prevalent reason for not considering Tebow is that his fans are asshats and 12s are just too exclusive a club to allow said asshattery. Yeah... those are really good football reasons. I bet some of you said the same about Pete Carroll... too corny, too rah rah, hate USC, proven to suck at the pro-level, blah blah blah.


Whatever the conventional "wisdom", I'd consider Tebow at the expense of my genitalia, orifices, etc


"Tebow's only as bad as he is. Because of the way human cognition works, people lets hoards of idiots mocking him mercilessly calibrate the magnitude of his "badness". The more people who mock in forums, the worse he must be!"


Reasons why bringing Tim Tebow to Seattle is a non-starter.

1. He can't throw.
2. He can't throw.
3. He can't throw.

He's everything you could ever want from a quarterback except for that. Bit of a problem. You seem to think it's a personal thing but the reality is fans want their team to win so bad you can be a rapist in this league and the fans will want you if you can play the position at a high level. It's not because of his beliefs or the backlash against the cult of personality. That argument just doesn't stand up to reality. Which is Tim Tebow can't throw.


Clearly you didnt see the suggestion he come in as a FB/TE. But even at QB, is Josh Portis much better?

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Tebow at first. The only reason the rest of your examples gained more attention was because the Jets kept Tebow parked on the sidelines.

As for Sherman and Mike Rob, Robinson does his own videos and he's not even in the same atmosphere as Tebow when it comes to media coverage.

Sherman is closer, but the difference is that he's a playmaker and much better at his position than Tebow is at his.


No, the difference is Tebow doesnt try and draw attention to himself... but for whatever reason, the media still gives it to him.

I am not denying that the media has a strange fetish for Tebow... but from what I saw last year he was a pretty good soldier considering how dirty the Jets did him. The JETS wanted him to be a PR move, I'm not sure thats what Tebow wanted.


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Yeah, the last thing we want is another great teammate, great competitor, and great person on this team. Is Tebow a refined passer? No. Is he a finished product? No. If some of you had seen Rich Gannon in his early years you would have said he couldn't play QB in the NFL. Steve Young's completion percentage after 40 games played: 53%.

Because of the rapid development of many young passers recently some assume that if you look bad your first couple of seasons you automatically cannot play. They forget that in most cases it has taken significant time to become a productive starting NFL QB. Several QBs blossomed late in their careers after initially written off as busts.

Tebow is still working through all the mechanical issues that Urban Meyer selfishly ignored. Those issues may not be correctable, but what if they are? If we could acquire him for cheap and develop him as a project behind Wilson I would not be opposed. Those against seem either shortsighted or bigoted to me...

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We already have a fullback who was a pretty darn good D1 quarterback back in the day. Tebow would be redundant in that role. Bit late in his career to work on converting him to tight end.

Josh Portis is a scout team quarterback at best. I would be shocked if he made the 53 man roster. But he knows the system so he'll be good to bring into OTAs and mini camp, and into training camp.

I guess we could use tebow on special teams like the jets did. There is that.

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Yeah, the last thing we want is another great teammate, great competitor, and great person on this team. Is Tebow a refined passer? No. Is he a finished product? No. If some of you had seen Rich Gannon in his early years you would have said he couldn't play QB in the NFL. Steve Young's completion percentage after 40 games played: 53%.

Because of the rapid development of many young passers recently some assume that if you look bad your first couple of seasons you automatically cannot play. They forget that in most cases it has taken significant time to become a productive starting NFL QB. Several QBs blossomed late in their careers after initially written off as busts.

Tebow is still working through all the mechanical issues that Urban Meyer selfishly ignored. Those issues may not be correctable, but what if they are? If we could acquire him for cheap and develop him as a project behind Wilson I would not be opposed. Those against seem either shortsighted or bigoted to me...


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Maybe the Mariners could sign him to be a pinch runner but only use him in situations where he is on 3rd base and are trying a suicide squeeze.


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Yeah, the last thing we want is another great teammate, great competitor, and great person on this team. Is Tebow a refined passer? No. Is he a finished product? No. If some of you had seen Rich Gannon in his early years you would have said he couldn't play QB in the NFL. Steve Young's completion percentage after 40 games played: 53%.

Because of the rapid development of many young passers recently some assume that if you look bad your first couple of seasons you automatically cannot play. They forget that in most cases it has taken significant time to become a productive starting NFL QB. Several QBs blossomed late in their careers after initially written off as busts.

Tebow is still working through all the mechanical issues that Urban Meyer selfishly ignored. Those issues may not be correctable, but what if they are? If we could acquire him for cheap and develop him as a project behind Wilson I would not be opposed. Those against seem either shortsighted or bigoted to me...



That's your argument? Someone is clearly projecting. Try refuting the points in the post to demonstrate your superiority.

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slow development or not, the NFL is a young man's game and if a QB still can't throw by his 4th year in the league, that's a little bigger in magnitude than 'mechanical issues'. FFS!

This topic is making me laugh. And I thought the tjack homers were bad.

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My superiority?.

When I post, I am not trying to be superior, lets establish that first.

On topic. Tebow cannot play QB for my Seahawks, or any other team, but since we are talking Seahawks, I am going to say this guy has no business being near this team pretending to be a QB.

He is a joke as a QB in the NFL. If he wants to be a FB, sorry, we have the best FB in the league in Mike Rob.

Teblow can do whatever some other team thinks he can do, but keep him away from My Hawkas.

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Tebow has been pissed that he wasn't used as a conventional QB last season. The dude wants to start as a QB, not a sit on the bench and/or be a TE or FB.

He wants to play a position he can't play. What do you do with that?


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